• shy

    I think now we all understand the lack of clothing from the previous post…i wouldn’t have wanted to add frosting covered clothes to the undone pile either.

  • http://deann.blogspot.com DeAnn

    She looks yummy!

    But please don’t tell us you licked it off!! ;)

  • http://teenpulp.typepad.com/teen_pulp Erin H.

    My depression was something I thought I had conquered a few years ago, but pregnancy only brought it back full-force. With less than one month to go until my due date, I can only hope that post-partum depression won’t affect me. If it does, at least I know that other women have gone through it and come out fighting.

    There is absolutely no shame in admitting that you need help. The last thing someone suffering from depression needs is to be even further stigmatized for seeking help, which in fact makes them a BETTER parent for refusing to deny that the problem exists. Anyone who doesn’t think so needs to remove their head from their ass.

    End of pregnancy fatigue is making me far less articulate than I should be, sorry.

  • http://teenpulp.typepad.com/teen_pulp Erin H.

    Wow, I finally posted before the total number of comments hit 29463846384.

    At least it’s chocolate cake. My friend bought a Blues Clues cake with blue frosting for her son’s birthday party. He looked like a smurf for days.

  • http://docern.blogspot.com Ern

    Wow, slow comment day, huh? j/k

    (BTW, this is Erin from a couple of earlier posts today, hereafter to be known as “Ern” to avoid name confusion)

  • http://www.anybodysguess.blogspot.com Amy

    I think we should all just ignore Holly’s comments. There is always one in the bunch, who disagrees just to disagree. She is probably refreshing every two seconds to see what people wrote in response to her. Don’t let her get any satisfaction here. She should be paying for it in therapy like the rest of us.

  • ashly

    Looks like a rockin’ party!

  • http://www.fotolog.net/saralynnmo saralynnmo

    Did he really say he needed to park his hoo-ha? Or are you just paraphrasing?

  • http://www.veryzen.blogspot.com Amanda B.

    Well, I’ve ignored a lot of them. But to be perfectly honest i’m sick of it. Trying to make someone feel like a bad mother has got to be one of the shittiest things a person can do.

    I know there will always be some sociopath out there with nothing better to do. But I can’t stand to see people getting picked on. It’s boils my brain.

    So I stand by my *Fuck Off* comment,and would like to add a *Go Blow Yourself* for good measure.

  • http://www.hchamp.com/ heather

    i think you followed the “sacred rituals upon presentation of the first chocolate cake” to the letter. in a tradition brought down from the days of our forefathers hunt, one is marked with the “kill.” quite frankly if that was devils’ food cake from sweet inspirations on market, i’d look the same way. happy birthday leta!

  • http://www.fotolog.net/saralynnmo saralynnmo

    Eeyorena said some things I was going to say.
    Should we not have kids if those kids will be at risk for (at least) a 4th generation case of depression (on both sides)?
    Does depression make life absolutely worthless? I mean, why not test for depression in the fetus, and put the little pre-sad babies out of their future misery?
    For fuck’s sake. Suck it, Holly.

  • ashik

    Ignore the mean troll. (Although – “Dang cold…” just made me giggle like a freak at work.)

  • Katrina

    Absolutely gorgeous! Did Chuck get to help clean her up? :)

  • http://happynothappy.blogspot.com eeyorena

    Susie, I know your comments were for Dooce, but they made me tear up as well. Three generations of depression down through the women in my family. My grandmother was born in the days before the “good AD’S” and was put through ECT. An awful thing to happen to a lovely woman.

    The only times that it has presented a problem was when one of those women DIDN’T ‘fess up and ask for help. Otherwise? Tons of love and help and we all came out of it as highly functioning adults with wonderful relationships who received advanced degrees from Big 10 schools.

    Surviving depression makes you more empathic and sensitive and compassionate to others. Getting treated for depression makes you a kickass survivor, often with a hefty sense of humor and humility.

    All good traits for great parents.

    I can’t wait to be one. PPD? I’m already planning for it and plan to get treated right away. The genetics counselor gave us a 20% chance of having a child susceptible to depression. Having depression doesn’t mean that your life has to completely suck.

    But it often means having to put up with uneducated, non-compassionate people who suck…either out of ignorance or crassness.

    Bad Holly, you’re my one person for this week. And I give you my permission to bite me. But you will have to get in line behind Hochman and la depressionata. After that, step off Stepford Girl.

  • Annejelynn

    Another thought…

    Maybe Holly had a bad experience of her own, growing up, having to deal with a depressed parent who didn’t handle his/her depression responsibly…?

    I would rather hope that’s not the case, and that Holly’s simply having a very bad day, unfortunatly taking it out on the undeserving.

    It makes me sad, sad, sad (genuinely) when ANYONE still suffers from the effects of bad parenting, even if that someone, despite their adult status shovels shit on others for it.
    (If you’re adult, no longer under parental control, it’s time to GET COUNSELING; do not let yourself be the victim of your past any longer – a good happy life can be had!!!),

  • minxlj

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that’s me, every day!! :-)

  • http://spelunk.blogspot.com mg2 WITH THE LAST WORD

    wait for it…

    wait for it…

    it’s coming…

    SUCK IT.

  • http://www.veryzen.blogspot.com Amanda B.

    “Holly”. This is Leta’s birthday week. Do you think you could lay off just until Friday. Then you can resume your feeble attempts at emotionally bashing Dooce.

    Or come to think of it, why not just *Fuck Off* altogether?

  • http://www.oipom.com Meggan

    *giggles* FROSTING! She doesn’t seem to mind it, which is good. Cute!

  • http://chloeishere.diaryland.com/ Chloe

    Seriously– that is the cutest kid in the whole wide world. And I mean that.

  • Dang cold…one more thing…

    Why why why do people take the time to write the things they write???? Look how nice and paragraphed Holly’s passage is!! Fuck me sideways, she wrote a draft, a 2nd draft and then had it proof read by an editor and hit POST!!!

    Don’t you have books to burn??

    I give up…

  • http://haplys.blogspot.com haplys

    Did she do any diving in on her own or did Mama have to show her how a good pigout is done?

  • http://spelunk.blogspot.com mg2

    Dude, Idiot Holly thinks that Heather has a chemical dependency. AS IF.

    If that were true, she would have TOTALLY shared the codeine with us, her peeps, long before now.

    HEY, BRAINIAC, CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND CHEMICAL DEPRESSION ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Now go finger your own asshole and leave me alone. I’m done.

  • Annejelynn

    I can totally relate to your comments, Trance!!! I felt my blood pressure SOAR SKYHIGH!

    Trance said at 05:11PM, 01.31.2005:

    I don’t think my urge to bitchslap the living shit out of someone has ever been so strong.

  • http://sarahkite.blogspot.com SEK

    HeeeHeee

    I get to do that to my son in 2 days! Happy Birthday to our babies!

  • http://song.september-rain.org/blogger.html song

    Yep, I’m another that had a kid when I already had clinical depression and then went on to get through PPD. And my mum (and her mum) both had depression before they had kids. Shit, maybe my family chain should be stopped.

    I think Holly needs to look at the stats on how many depressed women there are in the world – A lot of women suffered from PPD or CD or both and yet somehow, we survive and our kids grow up loving, like Susie. What does that say?

    And if you have never smeared food on your kids face purposely to take a photo I suggest you hurry up and do it (actually, I hope you dont’ and never do have kids) because it is one of the more gratifying experiences of being a mother. ALong with teaching the dog to lick the said food off and then teaching the child to pull middle finger signs at internet trolls.

    If you have that much of a problem with Dooce well, see that little x button in the corner? Click it. and don’t come back – you critise Heather for her depression not seeming to realise that it’s insensitive people like you who make it worse.

    Dooce, you know we love you and that Leta loves you and that child is the cutest ever to be seen in the NYT. Congrats on surviving a whole year without another glance of janet jacksons tit and for entertaining a billion loyal followers. God Bless you. Or at least get the intern to send you flowers.

    Oh and by the way, Holly… SUCK IT.

  • God’s Intern

    God is currently out of the office on another smiting, but I will page him about Holly.

    In the meantime, even a lowly celestial intern like me knows that dooce could not have predicted or prevented post-partum depression, and that her docs probably knew what they were talking about when they, you know, diagnosed her with PPD. But hey, that’s a guess. It’s not like I’m Holly or anything.

  • http://ladybug4791.tripod.com/ladybug/ LadyBug

    Chocolate therapy? I think I may need that, myself.

    Very cute pic! Sweet little chocolatey-goodness Leta!

  • Cathi

    Thanks Mary! You clever nit!

    I did find this — which may be the answer… Either way it’s fucking hysterical!

    http://www.dooce.com/archives/daily/02_14_2003.html

  • Ang

    Somebody (namely Holly!) must not have had cake for her 1st birthday… envy is so unhealthy.

    Over 250 positive comments can’t be wrong. It’s true: WE LOVE YOU DOOCE!

  • http://heather-anne.com/ Heatheranne

    Yes! That is what kids are for!!

  • http://www.binkyface.blogspot.com/ Mary in Sacramento

    Cathi,
    Because he’s no longer Congressman Chuckles! :)

    lol
    -MiS

  • Dang cold…and a bit confused…

    Its like clockwork…

    I come back to this website after a few hours and scroll down the comments and this is what I always find. Like a deranged flasher does with his quivering, erect penis in a bustling school yard, at 10am in a Tuesday, some nut ball EXPOSES their lack of intellect and breeding to the World Wide Web on this public forum.

    Holly, you’re excused!!

  • http://symbioticfishes.blogspot.com Fish

    As long as the child not served au flambe, One’s kids are a perfect selection for desert after a fine meal.

  • HenrykDTG021655KFEB05

    I HOPE that’s chocolate cake or frosting I see :-s

  • cindy

    Heather, i think you will appreciate this article, lol..
    Blue Oyster Cult, Playing Along With ‘More Cowbell
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46074-2005Jan28?language=printer

  • http://clobberblogger.blogspot.com/ Colleen from NJ

    Leta looks SHOCKED that you, of all people, YOU, have marked her as the target of laughter.

    mmmm, she looks magically delicious.

  • HenrykDTG021659KFEB05

    LLeyton have have lost the tennis match, but he won another better looking, prettier one instead!

  • http://waveofmodulation.typepad.com/ La Pixiatrix

    Holly doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Obviously.

    People with diagnosed and undiagnosed depression have kids all the time, people who’ve been on medications and who are unmedicated, and many are able to handle it with widely varying degrees of symptoms, including none.

    Post-partum depression is not necessarily connected to any pre-existing depression at all. Some people who’ve never been depressed can become slightly to clinically depressed after giving birth.

    Let’s not validate the inciters and perpetuate ignorant statements like Holly’s by retaliating.

    I can only wonder why Holly wants to shame others and has so much anger toward someone she doesn’t know.

  • http://sadandbeautiful.typepad.com Sarah

    Ah, there she is! Oh god I totally want to lick her face. And not just because there is chocolate frosting all over it.

    Is that weird?

    She is absolutely edible.

  • http://www.julienet.atfreeweb.com/retreat/ juli

    Um, you do pretty good with adsense. If you sock that money away, by the time Leta’s ready for therapy, if she even *needs* therapy, her shrink fund should be pretty substantial.

  • Annejelynn

    another thing (soooo steamed by Holly’s ignorant comments)…

    Maybe if Heather had some terminal illness and went ahead and conceived anyhow, there’d be a beef to make…but clinical depression?

    Even if one was bi-polar (an awful, awful condition I wouldn’t wish on anyone), to deem he/she selfish for having children? Maybe if neglegent in their treatment of illness? HOWEVER, that’s NOT the case here – vigilant, prepared to handle it all in the best way possible, a gigantic host of helpful resources available to them, the Armstrongs…man, Leta is a lucky little girl.

  • http://thehoneybunny.blogspot.com/ Honey Bunny

    I LOVE IT!

    she’s just too precious for words.

  • Cathi

    And now for something completely different…

    In the month since I’ve discovered Dooce, I believe I’ve read just about everything here.

    One piece of trivia escapes me, and it’s tearing me up inside, man!

    Why is Chuck referred to as the Former Congressman??

  • http://trancejen.diaryland.com Trance

    I don’t think my urge to bitchslap the living shit out of someone has ever been so strong.

  • http://randomandodd.blogspot.com kristine

    LOL, I did the same thing to my daughter because she wouldn’t have any part of grabbing that cake and eating it.

  • http://www.greenduckies.blogspot.com DM

    Heather,

    I don’t have or want children of my own but that has never stopped me from reading so-called mommy blogs. I look for people that are funny and honest and articulate, which you are. Plus, I also read Mimi Smartypants and Finslippy and Jennifer Weiner’s one of my favorite authors. So you are in good company. All of you are extremely talented.

    The whole thing Holly said about how dare you have Leta because of your depression, well, she can just SUCK IT! I am going back to the doctor tomorrow to get back on effexor and I appreciate how honest you’ve been about your struggles, it’s helped me realize that I can’t find this depression on my own.

    I think the flamers are the ones that are self-absorbed. You’re one of my favorite reads.

  • http://mbmn.dieplz.org mobish

    2cute2be true :)

  • http://www.veeonline.net Vee

    Precious! Happy Birthday lil’ Leta…with icing on top!

  • Molly

    for those against registering on NYT: news.google.com, search “dooce” (obviously)– a lot of other doocey articles pop-up as well :) kinda fun.