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Outsourced Caringâ„¢

(UPDATE: I opened up comments because I seem to have struck a nerve.)

I thought that instead of regaling you with stories about our very low-key Thanksgiving holiday -- lots of butter, high fructose corn syrup, and the occasional bucket of Crisco -- I would treat you to a cute little tale about inconvenience, aggression, and me losing my shit all over a complete stranger, albeit one who totally deserved it. Think of it as my way of spreading a little holiday cheer, like a roll of used toilet paper tossed high above a Christmas tree.

Last Wednesday night I had to make a late-evening run to the grocery store to pick up some ingredients we needed to make the creamed onion dish we'd been assigned to bring to Grandma's house for Thanksgiving dinner. Because I was also out of my very special organic cereal, the one with the whole grains and blueberry clusters, the one that has enough dietary fiber to kill a horse, I decided to go to the grocery store that is further from our house than our normal grocery store as it is the only one of the two that carries this cereal. I know that the extra gasoline I spent driving that longer distance totally cancels out any good I am doing by buying organic, but that isn't what keeps me awake at night. This is:

So here is where I switch to present tense because I keep reliving the horror over and over again, as if what happened that night is happening again right now. And I am normally the person in this family who just gets over these types of things, the one who is incapable of holding a grudge, whereas Jon is still mad at a mosquito that bit him on a camping trip in second grade.

So there I am chasing Leta through the grocery store, burning thousands of brain calories as I try to locate ingredients while simultaneously keeping track of a three-year-old who will not stand still. And no, do not send me email asking why I don't just put her in a shopping cart already, because we've tried that, and the result was like pouring sand into a spaghetti strainer. A loud, screaming spaghetti strainer. With claws.

Thirty minutes and a basket full of bulky boxes later we head to checkout, and by this time I've got sweat dripping down the back of my neck, and all I want to do is set down this heavy basket and catch my breath for a second. Part of the reason I don't normally shop at this grocery store is because of its enormity, because there are far too many places for Leta to hide, far too many miles in between those two things that I need, and by the time I'm done shopping I've got shin splints.

Another reason I don't like shopping here is the fact that they force customers to use the self-checkout machines. Poorly designed, unusable self-checkout machines that routinely eat fingers. And when Leta and I walk to the front of the store we find that they have only one regular checkout open in an attempt to force almost everyone into two 12-person lines for the self-checkout machines. This is what Jon refers to as Outsourced Caringâ„¢, when a company cannot be bothered anymore with basic service and hires someone else to do the caring for them. It's why you're always getting transferred to someone else when you call customer service, because the person who answered the phone doesn't get paid to care.

In this instance they are so fed up with caring that they've hired ROBOTS.

Now, I understand why self-checkout machines are a good idea. Ideally they're supposed to save the store money because you're doing the work someone else would have to be paid to do, and eventually this might trickle down and affect the price of those pickles you just bought. But this is PLANET EARTH where no such thing as IDEAL actually exists, and these particular self-checkout machines are so fundamentally broken that it takes the average person no less than 15 minutes to pay for an apple.

So it's finally my turn to walk up to a machine with my bulky basket and jittery child, and I start to panic a little bit because I haven't ever had to operate this towering piece of crap while also trying to manage a toddler. With limbs. And a brain independent of mine that operates those limbs. And at first, everything goes okay, I scan a box of cereal and it reads aloud a price. But then Leta touches that box of cereal with her finger and all of a sudden the machine starts to have a seizure.

"PLEASE PUT THE ITEM BACK IN THE BAG!" it shouts at me AS IF IT IS LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO MY SOUL.

But the cereal is still sitting in the bag, I have not taken it out, so this machine has clearly lost its mind.

Not knowing exactly what to do, I remove the cereal and then put it back again, just to make the machine happy. But apparently the machine was mistaken. That is not what it wanted at all. It wanted me to re-scan the item, or excuse me, RE-SCAN THE ITEM! RE-SCAN THE ITEM! as clearly its voice has been programmed by someone who forgot to turn off caps-lock.

I gladly re-scan my box of organic cereal only to be told to PLEASE WAIT FOR ASSISTANCE! and then I hear a loud voice over my right shoulder scream, "TELL YOUR KID TO STOP TOUCHING THE MACHINE!" And the word KID is pronounced like it is some sort of vaginal discharge.

I look down to see that Leta has rested her hand on what looks like a railing but what is apparently not a railing at all. It is a test! A test to see if she will be tempted by its resemblance to the railing along the stairs at home and reach out to touch it. And because it is illegal to shock anyone under the age of eight, the machine instead punishes me. And forces me to rescan all of my groceries.

This goes on for twenty minutes: the machine yelling at me, me trying to please the machine, the machine giving up and having the human yell at me about my kid. Around and around we go because every time Leta even so much as looks at the machine it tells the human that we're cheating. Until finally I go to scan my debit card AND IT CANNOT READ IT. That's when the human is forced to care and walks over to manually finish the checkout for me, and it is obvious she is not happy about having to care, it was not a part of her training.

Oddly, I've never been trained to tell someone that their machine needs a right good fucking, but I manage to do it as if everything in my life has been leading up to this exact moment.

11.26.2007 Daily 504 comments
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  • 303. Catfish said:

    Just last week I gave one of those machines a "right good fucking". Unfortunately I think the robot enjoyed it more than I did because after the fact it closed the aisle, smoked a Marlboro Light, and started ordering me to RE-SCAN THE ITEM! RE-SCAN THE ITEM!, whereas I had to drive myself to the hospital to get a blood transfusion.

    Robots are nasty.

    11.27.07 - 05:57 PM
  • 304. John said:

    Heather, that self-checkout machine was the parent of the blender you killed. :P

    I hate the things. It wouldn't be so bad if they worked.

    As for Froger1995, Item #4, dude, you're in the wrong place -- flake off.

    11.27.07 - 05:57 PM
  • 305. Amanda said:

    Fuck those motherfucking fuckety fucking machines. I hate them. I have three young children...THREE..and FUCK FUCK anyone who is standing behind me...or waiting for me to write a check, or gets pissed cause I am not moving fast enough. FUCKITALL.
    You don't like where I am, what I am doing, or how I am doing it...get in another line.

    11.27.07 - 05:58 PM
  • 306. Bobbi-lee said:

    I have never used those self-checkouts. Once I was shopping and my fiance and I spent almost 2 hours buying stuff froma big store and then when we proceeded to head for the checkout there was a girl serving a customer so we lined up behind that customer. But when that customer was finished she suddenly said to us that this checkout was closed and we had to go to the self serve checkout right over on the other side. So we proceeded over there when suddenyl she announced over the speakers that the store was closing, and out of no where all these people rushed to lineup at those counters. So it went from 3 people to 50 in 2 lines for slef serve. We couldn't be bothered waiting that long let alone doing it all ourself when they get paid to be checkout staff so we left everything there and never went back.

    11.27.07 - 05:59 PM
  • 307. Katrena said:

    This happens every time! I shop at a high end Ralphs here in CA - and they have self check out! Why am I paying more money to not have someone check my groceries for me? It takes 3 times as long and it's so frustrating. Ahhh!

    11.27.07 - 06:00 PM
  • 308. Anonymous said:

    why can't froger have an opinion contrary to popular belief or the ass kissing of everyone here? does heather turn the comments on so that everyone will agree with her? that's just as bad as making people use those fucking machines!

    not everyone loves children, people. i could never understand why people can hate animals, jesus, baby jesus, whatever, yet god forbid they don't have children or even more surprising, don't like other people's children!

    11.27.07 - 06:06 PM
  • 309. Jami said:

    I feel your hatred for the self check out machines. Every single time I use one my husband has to pull me away from it so that I don't destroy the machine or the worried cashier that is trying to figure out why I'm trying to kill the machine. I really hate how slow they are, how they have to explain, in detail, every single step to scanning in your groceries.
    The thing I hate the most is their weight sensor. They either can't tell that you have put anything in the bag, or breathing near the bag makes the machine have a seizure.
    Hate. Hate. Hate.

    Love the blog by the way.

    11.27.07 - 06:09 PM
  • 310. Rebecca said:

    i've had to use one of those machines at a wal-mart when i visited the states, i'm glad canada still hire people to care.. unfortunately i'm one of those people, but it beats being replaced by a machine and needing a "right good fucking" haha

    11.27.07 - 06:14 PM
  • 311. Erin said:

    I love the self-checkouts.

    I did take an inordinate amount of pleasure watching Bill Bryson (the writer) utterly fail to negotiate them at the local KMart. Heh.

    However, I think there's a marked customer service difference between having a few for the hugely impatient people like myself, and having only self-checkouts.

    11.27.07 - 06:17 PM
  • 312. Belinda said:

    As you can see you're not alone in the hatred of self check outs. I have only experienced them a couple of times up here in Canada, Home Depot being one of them and a couple of times shopping in the States with my Husband. The machines yell at me too and I can't even blame a child for touching things it is just me I guess.

    My pet peeve are people who can't figure out how to use the automated ticket machines at the Movies. I mean seriously it's a touch screen not rocket science and supposed to be quick. I work in the credit card industry and I seriously want to walk up and take over for them.

    Maybe at moments like that I should remember my own ineptitude at the Home Depot.

    11.27.07 - 06:21 PM
  • 313. April Coxe said:

    Hey Anonymous,
    I believe Heather's point is that there weren't enough "regular" lines open. Why such an ass?

    11.27.07 - 06:23 PM
  • 314. Anonymous said:

    The plus of self check outs...
    it's so much easier to steal from huge corporations. Do I EVER pay for half the shit from Wal Mart? No.

    Redistributive justice. They practically steal from farmers and small businesses in their efforts to commodify the WORLD (and self checkouts are just that- they're homogenizing the shopping experience by taking out the variable of another human's actions), so I steal avocados and apples in practicum when I'm forced by economics to shop there.

    11.27.07 - 06:24 PM
  • 315. Fe-lady said:

    Bolder directed me to your site...thank you Bolder!

    11.27.07 - 06:33 PM
  • 316. Jessica said:

    I hate those things. They annoy the hell out of me but my fiance, Bryan has to go to the every damn time. Either he actually enjoys doing it himself or he does it to annoy me.

    11.27.07 - 06:34 PM
  • 317. ensie said:

    Hahahahahaha.

    Thank you for making me laugh. I had to put my dog to sleep today and my best friend had a miscarriage yesterday. It's been a bitch of a week and I needed something to put a smile on my face.

    Thank you.

    11.27.07 - 06:36 PM
  • 318. Bri said:

    It's amazing to me how little the employees react when you actually need help after having scanned your stale sushi for the n-th time. Hilarious post! Thx.

    11.27.07 - 06:38 PM
  • 319. BendtheBar said:

    I'm one of those that will take an entire cart to the self checkout at Walmart. They got used to me though and would come over and over-ride the slow speed and put me into checker speed. That setting never yells at you. I loved it.

    Took a couple hundred trips but eventually they saw me coming.

    11.27.07 - 06:40 PM
  • 320. Anonymous said:

    Glad I'm not the only one shoplifting produce. I buy red bell peppers but push the cheaper green pepper button instead. My receipt says white onions, but my bag is filled with Vidalias.

    I know, I know...I'm going to burn. But that kick-ass salad I made for the potluck in hell only cost me $1.42.

    11.27.07 - 06:42 PM
  • 321. TLC said:

    Frogger1995 -- you are the exact person I love to hate.

    You say:
    4. I can avoid being stuck in line behind stupid people who are too distracted by their kids to get through the check out line efficiently

    Sorry...but when you are a young, single, and childless...the rest of the world is stupid. Thank GOD for Outsourced Caring!

    Yeah, well...call me when you've got a 10 month old and a 3 1/2 year old in tow and have turned into THAT mom who is too distracted by her kids (i.e., it's called "being a mom") to check out "efficiently." Let me know how that works out for you. Idiot. [when you have kids, the rest of the world is stupid, trust me].

    Heather...you rock. Hilarious post. I avoid the self check out lines like the plague. They scare me. Kids or no kids.

    11.27.07 - 06:49 PM
  • 322. heathersway said:

    The store in my town with the automatic checkout has an employee whose sole job it is to stand at a console and reset the machines everytime they stop because of an error. Seriously. When I get the "PLEASE BAG YOUR ITEM" she just punches a button and things go along fine for another second or two until she has to hit the button again. Someday they will work I am sure but right now? Worse than useless.

    11.27.07 - 06:50 PM
  • 323. Elizabeth M said:

    The only thing worse than those cursed self-checkout machines are the little kiddie sized shopping carts. When my kids were Leta's age I dreaded taking them to the store because that's all they wanted to do...race up and down the aisles filling their mini cart with all manner of crap with me hot on their trail. Or bashing me in the ankles with the thing. After one particularly horrific shopping experience with kid cart and self-checkout, I finally had my groceries in the itty bitty cart. My three year old son pushed the cart toward the exit while I steered him with one hand and lugged my month's old infant in a car seat in the other. As we're struggling to the door, some moronic store employee shouts at me, "Hey, Lady, ya can't take the kiddie cart out of the store." Oh, really? Watch me. Sheesh!

    11.27.07 - 06:53 PM
  • 324. Robin said:

    I don't know Heather....idiot human or idiot machine. Tough call. What are you more capable of forgiving?

    11.27.07 - 06:56 PM
  • 325. lipstickface said:

    My theory is that checkout cashiers sabotage those machines and make them the pain in the ass that they are to keep their own jobs. I think they all agreed at some conference somewhere to be bitchy and rude when they have to manage them just to force us all into the regular classic checkout line for their own job security.

    I never even wanted to use those stupid machines in the first place. I dont want to bag my own groceries either. I pay their high prices just for the joy of not bagging my own groceries. so im certainly not interested in scanning my own groceries. if i wanted to do that I wouldve pursued a career as a grocery store clerk.

    11.27.07 - 06:58 PM
  • 326. Jess said:

    Grumpy people AND grumpy machines = joy stolen and squashed.

    11.27.07 - 07:00 PM
  • 327. Brianne said:

    Heather, can I be like you when I grow up?

    11.27.07 - 07:01 PM
  • 328. Hattie said:

    I worked for a business school that got the contract to test those self checkout machines for usability several years ago. Most of the testers said they hated the machines. They then made several recommendations on how to make the machines easier and more intuitive to use, which were completely ignored.

    11.27.07 - 07:01 PM
  • 329. Anonymous said:

    You have just described my Saturday night with my 9 year old niece! Man I hate those machines. The Tops grocery here closes down ALL the real checkout lines after dinner time and you have no choice but to use the machines.

    11.27.07 - 07:05 PM
  • 330. antoniomo said:

    I guess I can see the appeal of beeping the scanner, not having to make small-talk, etc.....for somebody else. But I hate those self-checkout machines. I've quite going to a store that tried to force customers to use them. That store eventually got rid of them!

    So while I don't want to deprive those that enjoy self-checkout machines, I won't be going anywhere near them. And this doesn't even get into the fact that self-checkout machines further reduce jobs, or what these machines tell us about corporate america's view of actually having to hire and work with people.

    11.27.07 - 07:06 PM
  • 331. Anonymous said:

    this just seemed appropriate:

    http://i18.tinypic.com/71zh3wl.jpg

    By the way, the self-checkouts here are the same.

    What's really annoying is when the self-checkout 'assistants' are so reluctant to help

    Like, "OMG, WHY DO I HAVE TO DO MY JOB TODAYYYYY?"

    :D

    11.27.07 - 07:06 PM
  • 332. Sheri said:

    Hey, I think you may have hit upon a great idea for an updated version of Supermarket Sweeps. The final round will include a massive supermarket with your very own misbehaving preschooler and the self check-out line. Instead of having a time limit, though, whoever makes it to the end EVER wins.

    11.27.07 - 07:08 PM
  • 333. mammajmac said:

    Heather,
    My family and I own an independent, large-scale grocery store in the Northeast. Your experience is exactly why we will never install self checkouts-regardless of the trend-because there is no personalized care to the customer. Thank you for your post-it's further proof as to why I should keep (1) taking care of my customers in a face-to-face fashion and (2) providing necessary jobs.

    11.27.07 - 07:09 PM
  • 334. Cathy said:

    Nothing to do with this -
    But I love that you now comment on your daily pics. I love the stories behind the pics.

    11.27.07 - 07:09 PM
  • 335. John Dickerson said:

    Here’s what gets me. The store doesn’t care that the machine sucks because once you’re stuck up there they know they’ve got you. First, you need whatever you’ve got in your bag and so you won’t bail no matter how bad it gets and secondly, because of the social pressure, you won’t bail because you don’t want to inconvenience the people behind you the way you’re being inconvenienced by the machine. So the makers of the machine don’t really mind that they hollow out your soul and those who purchase the machine don’t care either because no one is going to lose money on the deal.

    If it were in the store’s interest--or the interest of markets more generally—to make a good check out machine they’d make the machine rub your back, tie your shoes and validate your parking receipt. Instead of touching the machine your daughter would clap her hands because she’d be happy and she’d know it.

    11.27.07 - 07:26 PM
  • 336. figbash said:

    I would pay money for an audio clip of your Tennessee accent saying "right good fucking."

    11.27.07 - 07:28 PM
  • 337. airy_blonde said:

    Self check out machine? WTF?
    I must be from Mayberry.

    11.27.07 - 07:31 PM
  • 338. Laura said:

    Holy Cow I wish I could have witnessed the encounter.

    11.27.07 - 07:34 PM
  • 339. Jen C-B said:

    We had just started to get these self-service tills in London before we moved to North Carolina. I quite liked them, but the first time I tried to get my husband to use one the till we chose happened to be very tempremental.

    The woman behind us in the queue clearly thought we were morons, so she decided to "help" and gestured across the scanner with her carton of milk. The machine beeped and milk appeared on the list of items it now wanted in the bagging area.

    The till would simply not accept that yes it had seen the milk, but no we did not want the milk. We ended up just walking away to queue for a till with an actual human being.

    11.27.07 - 07:35 PM
  • 340. Suebob said:

    Ooh, let's all have a day of anti-checkout-machine action where we go in and mess with the machines as much as possible and then blog about it...that would get some media, I'll bet.

    And ACM - the English language is notoriously accepting of neologims - Shakespeare contributed a boatload of new words, and do we complain about THAT? No, we say he is a genius. Enormousness indeed!

    11.27.07 - 07:35 PM
  • 341. HappyOne said:

    Dooce - YOU ROCK! Thank you for so brilliantly capturing just how freakin' terrible those self check out registers are!

    11.27.07 - 07:38 PM
  • 342. Bud said:

    Grocery shopping has turned into a necessary evil, and I refuse to give my business to any store that has "outsourced caring," as you so brilliantly describe it., Heather.

    A common practice at my Giant supermarket in Arlington, VA, is for the checkers to take their lunch break on a bench directly in front of the lines that continue to back up because their register/line is closed.

    11.27.07 - 07:44 PM
  • 343. susies said:

    Hey, what if every time we have no choice but to use the self check-out we intentionally screw up until the attendant is forced to do it for us? Eventually they might get the picture.

    11.27.07 - 07:50 PM
  • 344. angela said:

    Wow, I don't want to trash talk. But Anonymous at 6:11, you really are very hateable. Anyway, my vote on these machines is that they are awful...and I have been there, except my 3 y.o. was screaming and there was nothing I could do but push through the situation. Sometimes you just end up in the grocery store with a screaming toddler, and everyone else can just DEAL WITH IT.

    11.27.07 - 07:58 PM
  • 345. Anonymous said:

    >>>>>>>>>>"but it IS annoying to deal with someone in front of you in line who is having trouble with the machine, granted, not their fault, but then to see them have to wrangle the child on top of that, i mean, for fuck's sake, it's not rocket science, GO TO A CHECKOUT PERSON!"

    Gosh, kind of like watching some dumbass comment on a blog he/she doesn't have to read and thinking, for fuck's sake, "GO TO ANOTHER BLOG!" Mind boggling! LOL

    11.27.07 - 08:00 PM
  • 346. Kim said:

    These are great.

    Until.

    You have a 5 year old who is fully aware that breathing on these machines make them go haywire and who will do this when I turn to get the next item, then snatch back her hand innocently with her long-eyelashed brown eyes gazing up at me with an, "I didn't do it," face on. I think the machine actually screeched at me the other day, "Put the motherfucking cottage cheese back in the bag, Tool!"

    11.27.07 - 08:01 PM
  • 347. Jen said:

    The thought of self checkouts with four kids makes my ears bleed.

    I pray my little town never gets that kind of outsourcing...

    Hilarious post.

    11.27.07 - 08:03 PM
  • 348. Torchness said:

    Mylanta, Spencer scares the crap out of me. He and Heidi look like some bizarre children of the corn duo. I know Heidi is probably half brunette when she is doing cartwheels, but they still seem like Barbie and Ken-- that is, if Barbie ditched Ken and went for her brother Barney instead.

    11.27.07 - 08:03 PM
  • 349. Edm Laurie said:

    Ok this may compete with the time I was standing in line to buy formula and a woman...ahem..a line over..looked over at me and started lecturing me on how breast is best..
    I believe I told her I was a post op transexual....and that my real breasts hadn't "arrived" yet.

    Love your style

    11.27.07 - 08:06 PM
  • 350. Bethany said:

    I've read your page for YEARS now and I've finally gotten a chance to comment! They're always closed by the time I get around to reading your post! But anyway, I'm a struggling college student and I work part time as a cashier at Home Depot where we have recently installed our own Self-Checkouts, or as my fellow coworkers and I like to call them, the "Machines-That-Make-Us-Want-To-Kill-Ourselves." I know they are a hassle to 99.99% of customers we have, but believe me, they're an even BIGGER pain to us cashiers! I'm thinking about printing this out and taking it into work next week to see their reactions...

    But anyway, this is the first time I've gotten to comment so I just wanted to say that I really love your blog. I started coming here a couple years ago to get a little comic relief, but that turned into me turning into a complete psycho blog-addict to your site. My family is going through some of the things your family is (my younger brother and mother have both had multiple moles cut off -- some benign and some malignant) and I really appreciated reading your posts about USE SUNSCREEN! NOW! NOW NOW! Anyway, thanks again for all your hard work -- The new site looks great!

    --Bethany

    11.27.07 - 08:10 PM
  • 351. Penny Rene said:

    This entry is great, Heather.

    But the comments are priceless.

    (my god, i'm hilarious)

    11.27.07 - 08:14 PM
  • 352. Anonymous said:

    I have to be honest - I kinda love self-checkouts...in principle. The thing is (and this is not a dig at you; you had a child with you which is very different, and they should really have more clerks so that people have options) most people are too stupid to actually make them efficient. I can have 15 items and be out in 90 seconds, but I've been behind people with 3 items who take 5 minutes! I think the lane signage should include something like "1 trillion brain cells or more."

    11.27.07 - 08:18 PM
  • 353. Lesley said:

    I haven't run into automated checkouts in Canada yet but I hear they are coming. When they do I will be shopping at the smaller stores that still employ humans.

    Lately I find myself pulling what I refer to as Larry Davids in inane or insane retail situations. Example: the young woman at my grocers who throws items into the bag with the force of a footballer slamming a field goal. This chick dents cans so you can imagine what she does to fresh tomatoes. Like most cashiers earning minimum wage she's indifferent and unhappy...and, though I hate to suggest it, CLUELESS. (Some may never amount to more than a cashier in this life for good reason.)

    I suspect what's true is that she's still living at home and doesn't shop for - and thus appreciate - the value of an unbruised apple.

    Last night I looked her straight in the eye and asked her to please stop doing that. I felt like a shit...for a slam dunk nanosecond.

    P.S. "Outsourced Caringâ„¢" is brilliant.

    11.27.07 - 08:18 PM
  • 354. Rechelle said:

    Hey Heather - excellent post on bizarre American trade ritual. Our local K-mart is the worst, where they not only insist you use robo-clerks, the check out aisles are so freakin' narrow that both of my thighs are bloodied and bruised by the time I get out of the store. I can barely navigate the cart through these check-out aisles, as if they prefer that I buy less, and skip the cart entirely. Why do I go back? - I guess I gotta thing for robo-abuse.

    Love your blog
    Rechelle

    11.27.07 - 08:24 PM
  • 355. Cindy Accardi said:

    So hysterical. So true. Experienced it myself many times over and I was a very skilled grocery store cashier for YEARS! My deepest sympathies for those who have no experience as a cashier.

    11.27.07 - 08:25 PM
  • 356. Amanda said:

    One day I decided that for lunch I was going to go grab a Starbucks and go to the grocery store to pick up something to eat. More than likely a turkey sandwich. So I go to Starbucks and I run over to the nearest grocery store to grab my sandwich. Of course, this is a new store and they force you to use those stupid freaking self check out machines too... My 30 minutes of lunch (because I was trying to get back to the office and get some work done) turned into ONE HOUR. ONE HOUR of spending my precious time trying to check out my stupid sandwich. Finally, the chick took my crap to her machine and checked it out, with an attitude. SHE thought she should have the attitude?? I AM THE ONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE ATTITUDE. I wasted MY time on their damn machine. And then I had to work late to make up for it.
    Ugh... I am bitter too.

    11.27.07 - 08:25 PM
  • 357. b.e. said:

    I am terrified of self-checkout. I once saw a grown man close to tears because of the evils of this 'innovation'.

    11.27.07 - 08:25 PM
  • 358. lucy said:

    i only fuck around with these for 1 or 2 item trips. Can't imagine how much more interesting a (very cute) small child and nasty crowd could make the already painful experience.

    11.27.07 - 08:26 PM
  • 359. Incognito said:

    I just love you, Heather. ;-) lol...

    11.27.07 - 08:29 PM
  • 360. Sally said:

    Ouch, you really did strike a nerve, didn't you? One of those raw, oozing nerves with those lightning bolts coming out of it.

    11.27.07 - 08:34 PM
  • 361. ColleenP said:

    Heather, tell your damn kid to stop touching the machine already, will you? Have some consideration for those of us standing behind you waiting to anonymously scan our Depends undergarments, KY jelly, super lubed condoms (ribbed for her pleasure), and buy 2 get one free (with coupon) Summers Eve douches. We are busy people for crying out loud!

    11.27.07 - 08:36 PM
  • 362. Anonymous said:

    A four year old is not a toddler.

    11.27.07 - 08:37 PM
  • 363. John LeJeune said:

    The daily style coat looks a lot like Eden's banner!

    I hate self checkout too!

    11.27.07 - 08:40 PM
  • 364. Heather said:

    I'm still stuck on the fact that you would prefer Leta to be in the cart and she's not. She's only 3, parents trump kids. =)

    11.27.07 - 08:41 PM
  • 365. LLSloan said:

    My main problem with self-checkout is that I invariably get behind a grandma who takes forever to find the PLU number on EVERY SINGLE ITEM and then when she is finally done, wants to write a check...or pay for everything in nickles or whatever.

    11.27.07 - 08:44 PM
  • 366. rachael said:

    i laughed out loud at the "PLEASE PUT THE ITEM BACK IN THE BAG" part.

    those stupid machines make us feel stupid.

    and if you luckily don't need assistance with it, you feel like you barely made it out alive

    11.27.07 - 08:45 PM
  • 367. Derek Giromini said:

    That in 2007 we still have to individually scan and weigh each and every item then bag them is the biggest joke of modern civilization. What happened to RFID chips that would replace the bar codes? Haven't those scienticians figured out how to make them cheap enough to replace them? Are the aluminum-hat paranoid freaks keeping them away from our products?

    Self-checkout causes more problems than it solves. The point person at our Meijer is rarely at the stand near the machines. One can wait longer in those lanes than in the manned ones.

    In an ideal world, you bag while you shop -- using cloth bags of course -- then proceed to some sensor array that immediately scans everything and charges you. Produce can be weighed and tagged as it is picked from the bins. It works for the exhausted parents with full carts or the single guys or newlyweds with milk and disgusting domestic beer in their hands.

    11.27.07 - 08:46 PM
  • 368. Muri the Wiener Dog said:

    SHOW ME CHUCKS TITZ! ...at least one?

    11.27.07 - 08:49 PM
  • 369. stacysee said:

    Okay, I have to admit I love the self checkout machines in Giant supermarkets. Everybody in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area is absolutely fucking miserable, and using the self checkouts at Giant allows me to avoid seeing a cashier who would scowl angrily at me for, I don't know, existing.

    But when I to New England and attempted to use the self checkout at Shaw's, it was a disaster. It was a different kind of machine than the type they have at Giant. The Shaw's machine is similar, I suspect, to the one Heather had to use. Pure, pure evil.

    I think the bagging is the issue. At Giant, you scan your items and let them roll down the belt toward a bagging area. The machine has no interest in how or when you bag your items. It's out of the machine's cold, dead hands. (And on busy days, actual baggers attend these types of self checkout machines at Giant!)

    But at Shaw's, the items are scanned then dropped into the bag all at once. Which leads to the dreaded, "REMOVE ITEM FROM BAG!" loop, where no mere mortal wishes to tread.

    11.27.07 - 08:55 PM
  • 370. shauna said:

    I hate those damned self-checkout lines. They are geared for food in boxes and plastic wrap. Try to ring up one avocado, or a head of endive, and all the bells and whistles in the store start steaming. And god forbid we should have to talk to each other in line.

    Ay, poor you and Leta. This world isn't geared for humanity anymore.

    11.27.07 - 08:56 PM
  • 371. Lei said:

    For the record, dumbasses who make ignorant comments on a website they arent FORCED to read in the first place are twits who log back in every five minutes to see what outrage they have sparked and what attention they can draw to themselves. If they GET no attention, they go away :)

    11.27.07 - 09:10 PM
  • 372. Dave K said:

    Heather, Harmons (at least the one I shop at) doesn't have self-checkout.

    Having done a good share of cashiering, I like the self-checkout at most stores, but I hate going to the nearest Smiths. Ever since they installed their system it seems they only hve ONE regular register open.

    And, unless they've fixed it, if someone hits the spanish option at the Home Depot it's next to impossible to see how to switch it back to english!

    11.27.07 - 09:14 PM
  • 373. Christine said:

    Self-checkout machines were not designed to be used yet. They are still prototypes, but they're already in the stores to save them money, as you already explained. It would be like trying to get on the internet on one of these babies in the 60s. It just wasn't time yet.

    I believe they've been improved recently, but if you ever visited IKEA and used the self-checkout, you're no doubt also haunted by memories of stern, electronic demands to PLEASE PLACE THE ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA. PLACE YOUR ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA. And then a goon in a yellow shirt taps you on the shoulder from behind, puts you in a sleeper hold, and drags you into a back office and forces you to eat Swedish meatballs until you've learned to properly respect the bagging area.

    11.27.07 - 09:16 PM
  • 374. Sarah said:

    I think all those mean Anonymous posters probably work in a grocery store somewhere for minimum wage resetting self check outs.

    But hey, if that's the case, their attitude is understood. I mean, I would hate my life too.

    11.27.07 - 09:16 PM
  • 375. Zoe said:

    I might be alone, but I LOVE the self checkout lane. I LOVE it. I love her sweet, sweet robotic voice and the chipper, enunciated way she says "Please weigh your ba-na-nas!" I've even named her Beverly. I can bag my own groceries, in my reusable bag, without having to haggle with a bagger. Even when I ask! Ahead of time! For no bag! They still bag it! Hell, they DOUBLE bag it. And then I tell them i have my own bag, I don't need a bag, can you take the groceries out of the bag, and they just...can't understand it.

    I LOVE the self checkout line.
    But I can totally see where it could be awful. Especially with a child. And somebody waiting behind me.

    11.27.07 - 09:19 PM
  • 376. Kim K. in PA said:

    I have only encountered these machines once and that was on vacation. Technology doesn't scare me. My husband and I enjoy all the new gadgets and gizmos that are available, but something about those self-checkouts gave me the heebie jeebies. I gave them a wide berth - even when leaving the store.

    11.27.07 - 09:26 PM
  • 377. Debra said:

    Ahhh, to know Spencer is to loathe him, isn't it? He is quiet the piece of evil spawn at work for all to see...except, apparently, Heidi. *shakes head sadly*

    I think that those darned self check out machines are not just wanting to scan my grocery items, but my soul. I fear a world taken over by robotic voices and soul scanners! ;)

    Meanwhile, the nastiness directed at a child by some is unreal.

    Thank you for your thoughts; I've been recently introduced, and I cannot read fast enough.

    11.27.07 - 09:28 PM
  • 378. stephen said:

    How has the new site handled all the comments?

    11.27.07 - 09:37 PM
  • 379. dailyreporter said:

    It's hard to get riled at minimum wage workers for not "caring." Last year I lived in the Czech Republic where service industry workers were not expected to act like they gave a f* and didn't, which was kind of refreshing after a lifetime of the "customer is always right" fakery in America. That said, I lamented the institution of self-checkouts for many reasons, not the least of which is the fact that you can't really bring your own bags because the machine screams that you've put an unauthorized item in the bagging area if you try and use a canvas tote. But in Chicago most of the "full-service" check-out lines now have TV-type screens that play advertisements at you while you wait. So, it's six of one at this point.

    11.27.07 - 09:38 PM
  • 380. Jennine said:

    Holy Crap, Heather! It occurred to me after reading all these comments that you really are the Oprah of the internet. I double Chuck dare you to start a book club.

    11.27.07 - 09:41 PM
  • 381. Ms. Karen said:

    I used to LOVE to go grocery shopping when my kids were little. It was the only free time I had. I'd go right after their father came home from work.
    "Hi, Babe, I'm outta here. Dinner's in the kitchen we're out of milk. See you in a couple hours."
    "Wait, two hours for milk?"
    "Yeah, if you're lucky..."

    Self checkout... They're ok, but they are kind of bossy. At least I don't have to be polite to the machine just to keep my bread from getting smashed. Human clerks tend to take revenge on my soft goods. And, of course, I do enjoy telling the machines to go fuck themselves when they start getting snippy. The human kinds tend to call security when I do shit like that to them. Go figure.

    11.27.07 - 09:42 PM
  • 382. Suzanne M said:

    I adore self-checkouts, personally--because interacting with humans who haven't been vetted and approved for social contact with me makes me kind of twitchy--but I only like them when they work. Two of the approximately 89,000 grocery stores in my area have them, along with the Home Depot, and though they never used to work, they usually do now. Still, I remember the horror that was attempting to get those things to work properly at first. The Home Depot ones are still pretty crappy, but I don't have to shop there very often. Thank god.

    Also, speaking as a person who has never enjoyed interacting with children, can I just say that the Designated Carer and a few of your readers are incredible douchebags? (No one's telling you people to enjoy sharing oxygen with someone else's child. That doesn't mean you get a pass on being civil. For that matter, with the exception of abusive behavior, you also don't get the right to tell someone else what to do with her kid. God.)

    11.27.07 - 09:47 PM
  • 383. Neener said:

    STRONG. URGES. TO. SWITCH. TO. VERIZON.

    I had a fun self-checkout experience checking out a pumpkin. Couldn't tell if it was large or small, so yeah, I scanned it as small. But The Register knew. The Register called over a human who put in the correct SKU. Almost got away with a $.99 large pumpkin, dangit.

    11.27.07 - 10:04 PM
  • 384. TJ said:

    Oh I've had my run-in with the self-checkout, at Wal-Mart. That place alone drives me postal, and that was the last straw that day. I walked off without whatever it was I braved the Place of Doom to buy. My husband, however, never has trouble with the damn things.

    On the topic of bagging, its understandable when they forget whether you asked for paper or plastic. Its not so much when you send your reusable bags down the belt first, tell them to please bag in those, and they forget and put everything into plastic. Then when they realize, they make a big deal (nicely, this isn't WM) out of putting the plastic-bagged items into the fabric bags...i kept telling them to stop, the point had been defeated, the plastic bags are already used now, I'm not mad, you just look silly, its okay. It held up the line a bit and made _me_ look like the stupid person.

    11.27.07 - 10:20 PM
  • 385. Lisa said:

    I normally love the self checkout because it allows me to avoid unpleasant contact with incompetent humans. However, when my kids are with me, it is sheer hell to try and use those confounded machines. They can't help but want to "help", and even when they aren't helping, they are TOUCHING things that throw off the yin/yang balance of the self checkout universe. *sigh* In other words, I feel your pain. And the person yelling at you should have a watermelon shoved up their ass.

    11.27.07 - 10:28 PM
  • 386. MossyMoss said:

    I get a little thrill when I use those machines, thinking of Babe Secoli, the famed cashier from Working by Studs Terkel.

    However, I do have the humanity to use a human cashier sometimes. I've seen an open human-operated lane and a line at the U-Scan. Forlorn faces as the reality of annoying robot voices taking human jobs haunt my dreams.

    11.27.07 - 10:29 PM
  • 387. Sher said:

    I really thought the picture of the day would be of that stupid scanner machine at the grocery store or better yet of that asshat cashier who you had a go at.

    11.27.07 - 10:36 PM
  • 388. D said:

    I usually shop in tiny doses, enjoy technology, am too young to have pesky children, and only use a debit card. One would think that I would be the ideal person to use self checkout, but the machines apparently think I am a gigantic wad of midwestern fool.

    The Home Depot machine was disturbed by all the air I was pushing around and scanned my allen wrenches three times. Home Depot machine, you suck, but you were my first time so you get a free pass.

    Walmart machine A scanned 1 item 3 times as well. I would think that it was something I was doing wrong except that I had no problems with anything else. It also told me, unnecessarily, to PUT my ITEMS IN the BAG! IN the BAG! They were already IN the BAG you rat bastard. Walmart machine A, I hate you.

    Walmart machine B apparently thought it was funny that I wanted condoms, so it called the lumpy-headed cashier over to share a metallic laff. Why do you think I was using self-checkout, Walmart machine B? So I could avoid the lumpy-headed cashier! Wouldn't you think many people before me scanned condoms themselves to avoid the lumpy? I know you have seen condoms before, Walmart Machine B, you asshole.

    11.27.07 - 10:36 PM
  • 389. Julie said:

    Obviously the self checkout machines aren't the problem.

    Parents who believe their children are the center of the universe, and therefore think that everyone MUST love their children as much as they do, let their kids run rampant in every conceivable situation. Touching and prodding and drooling all over the place. God forbid the checkout lady was sick of telling EVERY FUCKING MOTHER that the reason the machine isn't working is because their bratty kids are pawing at it and resetting the sensors. How dare she not fawn over precious little Leta (or Timmy, or Susie, or any other hypothetical child)?! Not to mention the other shoppers that shouldn't have to put up with other people's misbehaving children while trying to buy a few groceries.

    This is yet another example of how intelligent people turn into self centered and self serving mommies and daddies.

    Obviously I'm a reader of Dooce if I'm here commenting, but it's just so disheartening when apparently well mannered people turn a blind eye to common decency and respect in situations regarding their child.

    11.27.07 - 10:53 PM
  • 390. Lauren said:

    Am I the only one who doesn't mind self checkout and is confused by the youtube clip from The Hills?

    11.27.07 - 10:53 PM
  • 391. Riona said:

    Outsourced Caring (TM): I remember the very first episode of Frasier, when Frasier and Niles were browsing a catalog for a nursing home: "Shady Pines. We Care, So You Don't Have To."

    11.27.07 - 10:56 PM
  • 392. lovelyk said:

    I AVOID stores that mandate customers to use the self checkout machines.

    My 2 children have entered elementary school but when they were toddlers, I BOYCOTTED grocery shopping with the darlings unless it was an extreme emergency.

    Yes, I am a slacker mom.

    Luckily, there are a few grocery stores in town that still have a check out person and a bagger. I am pretty sure they are all on Prozac or one of the derivatives because they seem very cheerful and helpful... they are soooo nice.

    11.27.07 - 10:58 PM
  • 393. cheap. said:

    i hate them. except for the enormous potential for um... sticking it to the man. aka not paying for everything. i always use the fred meyer self checkout because you can slip a few things by, (blame it on the distraction of telling your 3 year old to keep his hands off the weigher-thingy if they catch you) and if you have anything that needs to be weighed (fruit, bulk items, etc.) just enter the code for bulk salt, its like 9 cents a pound. i'm sure i'm karmically screwed for all the stealing.... but it's the principle, and maybe if everyone starts using self-checkout to steal, stores will decide its not worth it anymore and destroy them.

    11.27.07 - 10:58 PM
  • 394. Erin said:

    i hate the self-check out. you're right, it never works properly, and the shrill demands of the automated voice infuriate me. there have to be at least ten people in a regular line before i will use one. i always leave ticked off after using the self-checker.

    11.27.07 - 11:11 PM
  • 395. Kathy said:

    Heather, word of advice: Never, ever try to buy a greeting card at a self-checkout. Not even when you just ran in, last minute, on a Saturday morning to get a birthday card for your brother-in-law and can't face the idea of a long checkout line for an item that costs $1.99.

    You will never convince the machine that the greeting card is in the bag. Never.

    11.27.07 - 11:11 PM
  • 396. TJ said:

    May I ask, what is up with all the comments timestamped at 11 past the hour? Weird.

    11.27.07 - 11:15 PM
  • 397. Riona said:

    Outsourced Caring (TM): I remember the very first episode of Frasier, when Frasier and Niles were browsing a catalog for a nursing home: "Shady Pines. We Care, So You Don't Have To."

    11.27.07 - 11:15 PM
  • 398. GEORGE! said:

    Personally, I prefer the self checkout at Kroger. I don't have to talk to anyone I went to high school with who is currently working there.

    11.27.07 - 11:17 PM
  • 399. lizz said:

    Of course everyone hates those machines. I only use them when I have to card it, rather than when I cash money, because they NEVER EVER can tell which note you just put in. Which should be even easier here in Australia because each demonimation is a different size. But whatever.

    The real reason I hate them is because I'm too slow for the machine. I'm too slow to put my stupid item in the bag because I'm fussing about making sure the bag is packed the way I like, and then it bitches with the PLEASE. PLACE. ITEM. IN. BAG while I'm doing that, and then it bitches with the PLEASE. SCAN. NEXT. ITEM. Argh! Then after about three of these I get a real person come up and ask if I need help.

    No, I'm just slow. If you let me get served by a real person I would have freed up your stupid machine 15 minutes ago.

    11.27.07 - 11:29 PM
  • 400. Kari said:

    Dooce you are the best.
    I fucking hate self-checkout machines.
    Cranky old bitches in the checkout line aren't on my top five list either.

    11.27.07 - 11:52 PM
  • 401. Jenn said:

    Hahahah! "Fussbudget that." Bitches.

    11.27.07 - 11:52 PM
  • 402. Liz said:

    I'm laughing hysterically right now! The first reason is because of the amount of comments you have for this blog. Oh my GOD. Second, the fact that everyone goes through the same shit at those stupid scanners. I'm just lucky I don't have to do it with a three year old.

    11.27.07 - 11:54 PM
  • 403. Anonymous said:

    These comments are awesome.

    11.27.07 - 11:56 PM
  • 404. Carrie said:

    Fight! Fight! Fight!

    Can't believe how quickly people start bitching at each other while commenting on a post about grocery shopping. Imagine what would happen if you opened the comments on a post that was actually controversial!

    11.28.07 - 12:00 AM
  • 405. Flux said:

    It really is amazing how kids change a person. I'm trying to imagine what the Dooce I started reading 5 years ago, when she was a snarky single girl in LA, would have made of this rant. Most likely she'd have been the one ranting about this clueless mother she saw at the store with an out of control child, who then got into the self check line and clogged it up for everyone else by not knowing how to manage the simplest tasks.

    Imagine if 5 year ago Dooce had somehow known that hapless woman in the store was well off, married to a work at home husband, had plenty of free babysitting and support from relatives, just one child to manage, and still thought her life was uniquely difficult, and that she was the only one stressed out trying to shop during the holidays?

    Now that would have been a good rant!

    This one about modern day Dooce's inability to manage her child in public, or use modern technology, is just so so. (And yes, I'll probably feel entirely different about this topic in a few years when my brain has been drained by trying to care for my own little grub.)

    11.28.07 - 12:04 AM
  • 406. decor8blog said:

    my ex boss and great friend is named lynn wilson so i had a laugh at your receipt. ;)

    11.28.07 - 12:06 AM
  • 407. Echo said:

    I, too, hate the self checkout lanes and refuse to use them, even if I'm forced to wait in a long line behind other customers with cartloads of items. I've tried using them before and had such awful results, that I vowed to never use them again.

    If they work for some of you, great, use them. The rest of us would just appreciate more than one full service line being open at a time.

    I work customer service, and attempt to smile, make eye contact, speak clearly, and be polite to all my customers. I'm appalled by the amount of rude behavior that I've seen: both by the public and the staff at retail establishments. If you don't want contact with the public; stay at home.

    11.28.07 - 12:23 AM
  • 408. Anonymous said:

    i can't believe all these negative comments about kids in public. what is this, victorian england? they are allowed in public places these days!

    11.28.07 - 12:28 AM
  • 409. Anonymous said:

    I have to admit that deep down inside, I heart self checkout machines. See, I have to shop at a commissary where you have to tip the baggers, because they don't get a regular salary. So, by doing this, I am not made to feel like an ungrateful person by not tipping said bagger. I hate it though when trying to check out produce...Aye aye aye!!!

    Spencer is special though. Not too many guys are able to grow flesh colored facial hair!

    11.28.07 - 12:57 AM
  • 410. January said:

    Thanks for all the horrible stories about self-checkout machines. I have never used one and now I know that it’s not worth it! Actually, I just found my debit card while looking through a pile of paperwork and have no idea what the pin number is! I use cash or the annoying payment by check method, although I always fill my check out while waiting in line. Luckily for me, most check out people are nice where I live. However, I have been appalled when a customer talks on his/her cell phone during the entire transaction and never acknowledges the checker. I have found that a pleasant greeting and a pleasant thank you works wonders for relations between the checker and me. Of course, I am from Wyoming, where people are generally quite friendly. And… I enjoy people very much and appallingly enough, often look total strangers in the eye and smile at them. So, it appears that I might annoy many of you who aren’t thrilled about friendly checkers!

    I was surprised when I visited Spain that I was not supposed to pick out my own produce, even at a large supermarket. I was supposed to ask the produce person to put my apples and potatoes in a bag for me. When I objected, my friend told me to hush and not be a rude American! I also discovered that if one goes to a pharmacy in Spain, the only items one can choose off the shelves are lotions, perfumes, beauty products, etc. If one wants to buy what would be an OTC med in the US, the customer must explain his or her symptoms to the pharmacist who then makes the decision about what med the customer should purchase. For an independent American, this was a bit too much customer service for me!

    I once read a great story about how one mom dealt with her unruly children at the grocery store. This mom’s solution would not work for a 3 year old, however. The children in the story were at the age where they were embarrassed by their mom. However, this did not keep them from being very unpleasant and rude in the grocery store. Finally, the mother stopped in her tracks and began singing very loudly. The children were so humiliated and shocked that all bad behavior stopped, and the grocery shopping expedition went smoothly from that point on!

    While I agree that it would be great if Heather could leave her daughter at home while shopping, that isn’t always possible. Living in a college town, I know plenty of parents whose spouses are unavailable for child sitting while the other spouse does the shopping. Or, in the case of my single parent niece, she can’t afford to pay a babysitter while she does her shopping. It’s all up to her, no matter how exhausted she is when she gets out of class.

    You are a great writer, Heather. I loved your final sentence. (“Oddly, I've never been trained to tell someone that their machine needs a right good fucking, but I manage to do it as if everything in my life has been leading up to this exact moment.”)Delightful!

    Hurray for you and you shoulda kicked that horrible customer service person where it hurts!

    11.28.07 - 12:57 AM
  • 411. Z said:

    I'm with Teresa (who posted at 12:11) -- Macey's is the way to go. Nary a self-checkout to be seen, and if you ask them to stock your favorite cereal they will almost certainly do so.

    (That said, I have succesfully used a self-checkout without incident once or twice, on late-night last-minute runs to a nearer-but-ickier store. But I had none of my four children with me on those occasions.)

    I have to say that your joke in your other post didn't work for me, since after subsisting mainly on frozen burritos throughout my college years, those (and not small children) are the first thing that pop into my mind when I read the words Lynn Wilson.

    11.28.07 - 01:00 AM
  • 412. ambovee78 said:

    to anon at 6:11 pm. Just because a parent like Heather decides to take her kid shopping with her does not mean she is forcing her kid on anyone. Did it ever occur to you that maybe Mr. Armstrong was doing something that would keep his attention away from Leta or maybe Leta would have thrown a fit if Heather left her at home? Any Woman with a brain knows that no man wants to be left alone at home with a screaming fit throwing tantrum body throwin kid. Because his head will split open and his brain will come spilling out. I have met very few men who will actually sit and deal with that crap from a kid. If you don't like kids maybe you should take your happy little ass to your house and lock your doors and shop online and spare all of the parents out there (including me) your jackass attitude? God didn't put us on this earth to please you and we sure as hell are not going to go out of our way to make your grumpy ass happy. You sound like the 90 year oldbiddy down the street that has a fit if she lets a fart. Get a life and leave people who choose to be parents alone you asshat!

    I would rather sit there and watch her kid squirm around and her trying to hold her still instead of some stupid ass lazy parent who lets their kids run all over the store and doesn't watch them or lets their kid scream like a spoiled brat through the entire store. Me I don't deal with that crap from my kids. They wanna mis behave I don't give a shit who is watching I will spank them right there.

    But since your not a parent like half the people who like to write parenting books who have never had kids. You have no right to judge a parent. And or give out advice to a parent. So shut your pie hole. Go play a video game or something. Or take some sleeping pills and sleep the rest of your life away and spare us all your attitude. God your childhood must have been shit if your such a fucking ass.

    11.28.07 - 01:03 AM
  • 413. Z said:

    Oh ha. Everyone who's posted has posted at something:11. Ya might want to get that clock looked into.

    11.28.07 - 01:05 AM
  • 414. jamiefriggin said:

    At the grocery store I frequent, we have four self-checkout machines. The two on the left have a 20 item limit, the two on the right have a 10 item limit. Most of the time there's two lines - the people with 10 items in their baskets and the people with more and everyone advances to the appropriate machine and all is well. But every once and a while, it's anarchy. The 10-item people get in the 20-item line and then think they can just take a 10-item machine when they get up to the front of the 20-item line, completely pissing off the 10-item line people. It's amazing there aren't fist-fights. And since I live in a college town, the best is when the 3 sorority girls with a big basket full of food get in line. They obviously have two or three times the number of items allowed, and everyone looks at them with suspicion and sometimes outright hostility. But, like, each one of them is, like, totally only paying for THEIR stuff, and it's, like, less that 20 items, OK? Duh.

    11.28.07 - 01:07 AM
  • 415. Charlene said:

    I LOVE self-checkouts, and I'm very sad that the grocery stores here don't have them. I never used anything but when I lived in the Chicago suburbs.

    11.28.07 - 01:14 AM
  • 416. Z said:

    To Natalie a few posts up -- I beg to differ:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fussbucket

    11.28.07 - 01:24 AM
  • 417. Phancy said:

    Right after reading this tonight, I headed out to my big grocery store. Since it was just me, I spent an hour wandering the aisles and filling up my entire cart with fruits, veggies, plates and mugs, 18 bags of bulk coffee, and beer.

    You guessed it. The only thing open was the new self-checker. Now usually, I like self-checks--it's like figuring out a puzzle. (Disclaimer: Noone was behind me.)
    Not only did I have to look up everything I had in the cart (scrolling alphabetically as the robot dictated), I also had to wrap 12 breakable pieces of dinnerware. Then I ran out of room in the bagging area and had to remove some of the bags. ITEM REMOVED. PLEASE REPLACE ITEM.

    Then, my cell phone rings--my husband wondering what the heck happened to me, since 30 minutes earlier I'd told him I was about to check out. Finally, I couldn't decide whether to laugh or cry when the (perfectly nice and polite) attendent simply came over with her hand-held scanner and finished up for me.

    And, I love the open comments!

    11.28.07 - 02:19 AM
  • 418. Kelli said:

    I used to be the self-check out assistant at my local superstore, and I personally found the most annoying thing the people that would bring carts and carts full of groceries through. It's not so bad when you just have one or two things. I tried to be a helpful assistant, but I definitely understand the frustration. It took forever to get the just minor kinks worked out.

    On a similar note, has anyone heard of WinCo? I actually find it much weirder. A human checks you out and takes your money, but you have to bag your own groceries. The first time I didn't know, and all the people in line behind me glared while I loaded my bags as fast as I could.

    11.28.07 - 03:45 AM
  • 419. Debster said:

    We have just started getting these here in England, the first time I tried to use one for some reason an item appeared twice although I only had one. I just left the machine stuck in the loop of remove item/place item in bag and went to use another machine. Now I wait for a cashier. Oh and here, most shops no longer take cheques (checks). Cash or card only. And cash isnt too popular ...

    11.28.07 - 03:51 AM
  • 420. KC said:

    Living in Australia, I have yet to encounter one of these self check machines. When I first heard about them, I ever so excited (because I like a new toy to play with every now and then!) but now, after reading this and seeing the comments, I'm thinking, maybe not so much with the excitement and more with the whole WTF happened to good old fashioned service? That being said, its not like customer service here is any better than anywhere else. We stand in lines so deep they snake halfway down the store. I once stood in line for 90 minutes (!!!!!!) just to be told that the item I was trying to purchase was not in the system and therefore could not be scanned correctly. Good lord, just thinking of what would happen if a machine were to be in complete control of my purchasing? Ugh. And yes, Heather, you should have let Leta loose on that stupid dick! Kids cant help it (I have a 4 yr old nephew who loves to 'help') so other people should just be a little more patient and a lot less like...well, like jerks!

    11.28.07 - 03:59 AM
  • 421. Les said:

    Your writing is the best. So glad to have found your blog.

    I'd pay extra to use a machine here on the east coast. You're lucky to have a robot to check your groceries. Here, all of the sales help, from the grocery stores to department stores is so FUCKING RUDE, letting you know that any human contact for them is clearly interrupting a personal conversation and a waste of their time. They'll talk to someone else on the cell phone about how much they hate their jobs, and can't wait to get home, as they are checking your items. They never make eye contact, and toss your bag at you.

    11.28.07 - 04:35 AM
  • 422. sue.g said:

    I have to admit that I go through the self-check at Home Depot just to gick with the 'monitor'. He looks like Captain Kangaroo. I am sensitive to other shoppers,,,,if it is busy I don't make waves, but if it's a slow day I just can't help myself. This guy is just strung a little too tight.

    11.28.07 - 04:41 AM
  • 423. sernak plywood said:

    everyone likes people who force their kids upon others and expect people to LOVE their children

    11.28.07 - 05:32 AM
  • 424. RaeRaeMcK said:

    I just think of the day when they figure it out and make a good machine that actually works. I'm willing to put up with the flaws for now because they'll get better eventually.

    11.28.07 - 05:37 AM
  • 425. Abby Lasa said:

    Yes, the dread machines are indeed ...um... dread, but that's not the point. Far more mind-boggling is the realization that some people don't know The Tiny Toothed Demon, and therefore must not go to bed disappointed every night because they were unable to check "Kill Spencer Pratt" off their daily to-do list.
    People of Britain, give thanks to your strange foreign gods that the scourge has yet to reach your shores.

    11.28.07 - 05:52 AM
  • 426. Mizmouthy said:

    The trick is to never go through those lines with produce items. I tried to buy two limes one day and ended up somehow scanning in 2 BAGS of limes (ahem large price difference there) and then had to literally wait 15 minutes for a human to come and void them out. I tried to get the lady behind me in line to sympathize with me since every clerk in the vicinity was ignoring me, but even she just refused to make eye contact with me. WTf???

    11.28.07 - 06:01 AM
  • 427. Big Sister said:

    I go to the self check-out purposely to piss off the attendant. I ring up all my stuff and then ask to pay with a check. Love their reaction!

    11.28.07 - 06:19 AM
  • 428. Nina said:

    If I walk up to the check out with a cart full of groceries and there are not enough humans to ring the register, I abandon my cart. I have done it many times. Once, someone caught me and asked me what I was doing - you know - "are you going to just leave all that perishable food there?" and I said, "Yes. there is no one here to ring my purchase and take my money, and since I DO NOT WORK here, I guess I am going to have to go somewhere else."

    I will never, ever use those self check out machines. EVER.

    11.28.07 - 06:22 AM
  • 429. Karen said:

    I LOVE the self check-out machines. I have only very occasionally ever had issues with them, and as long as there aren't jackasses trying to buy a whole week's worth of groceries on the self check-out, it's oh-so-much quicker than waiting in a long line.

    Of course, I don't have kids, either...

    11.28.07 - 06:25 AM
  • 430. Kati said:

    I experienced a new sort of outsourced caring... I went to the grocery store yesterday during my break. While there I went to one of the cashier checkout lines because I wanted them to help me... that's what they are there to do... instead, I had to bag my own groceries while standing there... she even asked me to hurry up so she could ring up the next costumer... forget the fact that I was doing her job.

    11.28.07 - 06:47 AM
  • 431. cakebaker said:

    Those machines are the worst.

    And for the record, there are times when people with small children have no choice but to bring them along to the store. Maybe we are out of diapers, or milk, or maybe we just needed to get out of the house. Maybe Daddy's not at home to watch them while we go alone. Believe me, taking three kids, three and under, to the store sucks total ass, but I've done it before and I'll do it again.

    And maybe next time, I'll pay with a check while you non-parents glower behind me and my kid shrieks because I won't buy him the m&ms and my other kid cries because she wants to ride the horsey and my baby wails because he's a baby...

    11.28.07 - 06:48 AM
  • 432. Sara said:

    I couldn't stop laughing at this. I have been known to cuss the damn things out. I'm sure everyone around me then thinks I'm a crazy person that talks to myself. All self checkouts SUCK. The loud robot voices trying to "help", the PLEASE WAIT FOR ASSISTANCE, the oh-so-caring employees that act like you are the dumbest person on the face of the planet b/c you can't operate the damn thing. I'm not sure if they act like that b/c they hate all of us or they're fed up with the pieces of crap and want to take a shotgun to every single machine in the store. I've heard from a friend that used to get stationed at the register right next to (you know the "mini" register that the helpful employee never leaves, just stands there and watches in disgust while we screw up the machines?) the horrible contraptions that she hated the machines b/c they did more harm than good. ANYWAY, I think we'd all love to hear what exactly went down between you and the employee. LOL That would be awesome.

    11.28.07 - 07:00 AM
  • 433. TtownAnne said:

    Somehow the self-checkouts are rare around here....so far I've only seen them at BJ's. But at BJ's where I routinely buy cases of water and the like, I always enjoy making the register-helper-person come over to scan the large items for me. No reason for me to get a hernia lifting them up to the belt if they aren't even going to help out!

    11.28.07 - 07:00 AM
  • 434. Sara said:

    Oh, and are we even sure that Mr. Pratt is umm...how do I put this?...into women? That vid definitely doesn't prove anything. Cracks me up every time I watch it.

    11.28.07 - 07:05 AM
  • 435. Jebbica said:

    What is it about those things that just makes me feel like a shoplifter? Then, because you put the loaf of bread on TOP of the bag holder because you want to put it in last so it won't get all smooshy, the machine has a hissy fit, and the woman with horn-rimmed glasses (it's always a woman with horn-rimmed glasses) monitoring the machine peers at you with disdain. And all I'm thinking is, bitch, why do they pay you to watch me work? Shouldn't I be at least getting minimum wage for this? Do I tip myself for bagging my own groceries?

    Love,

    Jebbica

    PS: Thanks for finally opening up comments. I'm sure you get your share of the no fun Anonymous Army, but it's nice to finally get to say hello. Love the new look!

    11.28.07 - 07:16 AM
  • 436. Deva said:

    Try needing one packet of yeast. ONE. Scan at U-Scan because in your previous life you lived in a college town and all the students were buying alcohol. and you wanted to make pizza. Then scan the yeast and watch the machine have a fit. Because YEAST WEIGHS NOTHING.

    And then buy amaretto at the ripe age of 21 where you haven't had alcohol in well over a month because you don't see the fun in being drunk constantly. And get told that you look 16 even when you're ID says you are 21.

    So so so happy I live in a big city now.

    11.28.07 - 07:19 AM
  • 437. lolli said:

    A self-checkout machine at another grocery store I go to actually ANNOUNCES every single item you scan in a VERY LOUD voice, so everyone around you will know what you've decided to purchase today!

    technology is great.

    11.28.07 - 07:21 AM
  • 438. MommieDearest said:

    I once threw a 12pack of Dr. Pepper at one of those things when it wouldn't scan and I was in a huge hurry. Which is why I was using the self-checkout. The machine kept telling me to WAIT FOR CASHIER (because clearly I had violated the third rail). There was no CASHIER.. I was in SELF CHECKOUT.

    After the third WAIT FOR CASHIER I picked up that twelve pack and slammed it down on the scanner.

    Suddenly, a cashier appeared.

    And I didn't show my face in that store for 2 months.

    11.28.07 - 07:24 AM
  • 439. Susan said:

    LOL..I laughed crazily and shared your blog with a coworker (she was looking at me funny). I'll be honest, I'm scared of the things and I either avoid the store completely or I wait in line for the cashier. And I love Chuck.

    11.28.07 - 07:25 AM
  • 440. Heather said:

    I had an anxiety attack once trying to use the self-check at Walmart. Even my third grade nun-teacher never made me feel so inadequate.

    11.28.07 - 07:28 AM
  • 441. Leticia said:

    I know exactly what you mean. My daughter (about 6 months younger than Leta) was touching the area where the bags sit. Good God you would have thought that she committed a crime the way the employee kept staring at her. THEN, I even heard her tell another set of customers, "I just wish these people with kids would....." I didn't exactly catch the rest. I WAS FUMING. Those darn machines shouldn't be so touchy.

    Oh, and I HATE SPENCER. When will Heidi get a clue? I keep screaming at the TV, to no avail. And, Audrina...she's going down that same path.... I wonder if they'll see this years from now and want to slap themselves?

    11.28.07 - 07:40 AM
  • 442. Gryph said:

    I hate these machines. SO MUCH. I was in Wal-Mart, trying to self-checkout and it kept yelling at me to TAKE THE ITEM OUT OF THE BAG which was unfortunate because I HADN'T SCANNED ANYTHING YET. The checkout assistant helpfully leaned over and said "yes, sometimes it does that because the people who set them up don't tell it the bags are there, so it doesn't know how to adjust for the weight." So basically, no matter what I do, the machine will accuse me of PUTTING UNSCANNED ITEMS IN THE BAG because the people who put the bags on the machine can't be fucking bothered to do that right.

    11.28.07 - 07:41 AM
  • 443. the mighty jimbo said:

    you should have told the person shouting at you about leta to "tell your mother she should have had an abortion."

    i can almost understand the 16 year old not wanting to do her job and help. part of being that age and working in a supermarket.

    but people getting impatient with a four-year-old deserve to be treated like shit.

    11.28.07 - 07:56 AM
  • 444. emc1001 said:

    I hate the self-checkout with the burning intensity of a thousand suns.

    11.28.07 - 08:06 AM
  • 445. Anna said:

    Two things that I don't think anybody's mentioned yet:
    1) People scream for lower prices all the time but don't want to face the consequences of it. Use your consumer power, people and don't shop there, then.

    2) I've only worked as a cashier for a couple of years (extra money during college) and let me tell you - it is hard work that wears you out because it is so monotonous and involves heavy lifts (like gallons of milk or soda - imagine lifting a couple of hundred of them a day...)
    Add to that stressed customers... No thank you!

    But also -what a seriously crappy system! Here in Sweden we have scales that print etiquettes at the produce section.
    Also, the self-scanners are portable so you scan as you put stuff in your bags while you're shopping.

    When you're done shopping you hand the portable scanner plus your card/cash to the cashier and then you're done! Every so often (randomly) the system says "manual control" which means that a cashier will scan all of your groceries the "normal" way as a way of discouraging stealing anything etc. It works very well, but there are always "regular" lanes with cashiers as well.

    11.28.07 - 08:08 AM
  • 446. Maeggles said:

    You remind me of my mom. She would have gotten a bit louder a bit earlier, though. (She yelled at the screen when we went to see the Breakfast Club 18 years ago.)

    I have a love hate relationship with the self serve. I have 2 cashiers that I will look for at the grocery store, if they aren't on, I slog through SS. I'd rather put up with that level of hell then deal w/the elderly old man that can't figure out that I might want to get out quickly since 2 of my three kids are screaming and the third is stealing gum from the candy rack.

    11.28.07 - 08:13 AM
  • 447. Leesavee said:

    My hatred for self-checkout machines is only topped by my hatred for telephone trees where you can never seem to reach an actual human being...or if you do, they're in some other country and don't speak English well enough to help you. GAAAHHHHHHHH!

    11.28.07 - 08:13 AM
  • 448. Dana said:

    Self-checkout machines are so convenient when I'm without my son. But dragging him along with me costs me more money. When I'm not looking, he puts candy on the scanner and then I have to go bother that nice lady to help me get the five bags of M&M's off my bill. After the first scowl I received, I've learned to just pay for the shit I don't really need.

    Wait. Can I say "shit" here?

    11.28.07 - 08:20 AM
  • 449. whitney said:

    people like that shouldn't be allowed to have jobs.

    if you work in a grocery store, restaurant, retail, anything that requires you to be around customers and cater to their needs, that you're getting PAID to do, grow a pair and do your job.

    you should've punched the human square in the jaw.

    11.28.07 - 08:25 AM
  • 450. JS said:

    There is some irony here, in that Spencer will probably be working as one of the automated checkout clerks any day now...

    11.28.07 - 08:28 AM
  • 451. Kimberly said:

    I hate those freaking self-checkout machines. Except for when I'm trying to pull a "fast one" and use a coupon for something that I really didn't buy, sometimes it'll let me use it. However, I once used a coupon and placed it in the coupon slot and then the machine practically crashed because I didn't slide it in there in the appropriate fashion.

    11.28.07 - 08:31 AM
  • 452. Betsy Barron said:

    self-checkout = evil incarnate

    11.28.07 - 08:31 AM
  • 453. Todd Kravos said:

    Wow - I'm sorry to hear about THAT grocery store. I once made the mistake of doing self checkout thing for only a 6 pack of beer. Oh dear, that was trying. The person who was monitoring was underage, her boss was underage and the store manager was no where to be found. For 15 minutes. He was probably getting lucky in the bathroom or something.

    No where near as horrific as your experience. But enough to ensure I never use those "U-SCAN" machines ever again.

    And you have a much more composure about you than I.
    Yelling "tell your kid.." would be enough to make a Snickers bar from the end cap suddenly grow wings

    11.28.07 - 08:32 AM
  • 454. Elizabeth said:

    I like using the self-checkout, because I worked at Target as a cashier a *few* years ago, and I feel I can scan and bag faster than the cashiers at the store. Plus, I can bag my stuff together so that it's easier to put away when I get home. But I hate how it tells me there is something "unauthorized" on the conveyor belt, like I've scanned a WMD or something.

    By the way, what do we need to do to get our comment verified?

    11.28.07 - 08:51 AM
  • 455. Anonymous said:

    I refuse to use the self-checkout machines. The stores have already jacked the prices of their items up to include checkout service... by forcing you to use self-checkout they get to keep that money by hiring fewer clerks. My grocery store put in some self-checkout lanes and as soon as people started using them, they let some of their checkers go. I'd rather wait in line and keep those hard working checkers employed!

    11.28.07 - 09:00 AM
  • 456. Laura said:

    Gutted... the video can't be watched now.
    I totally agree with you though. Although I am pretty sure I would use much worse language!

    11.28.07 - 09:13 AM
  • 457. KTodd said:

    They now have these little beauties at Home Depot and Lowes too. Ahhh, but we have learned to work the system. You go to the self checkout with your cart loaded up with cabinets and laminate flooring which you obviously cannot heave up on the scanner which forces the the one employee to come and scan your items with their handy scanner gun.

    I do feel for them though. Your must be on the manager's shit list to get stuck handling four irate customers at a time vs. the usual one.

    11.28.07 - 09:35 AM
  • 458. erica said:

    I flat out won't use self-checkouts. I can program computers but self-checkout machines? I'm pretty sure they'll eat me.

    11.28.07 - 09:37 AM
  • 459. sarah said:

    ha haaaaaaaa! heather, i hope you are not kidding about intervening on behalf of the automatic checkout machine and it's miserable life of sexual depravity. nice seizing of the day!

    11.28.07 - 09:38 AM
  • 460. Anonymous said:

    The ONLY upside to self check out machines:
    1. Grab a 12 pack of beer.
    2. Open the small top back flap of the box juuust so.
    3. Rotate beer can inside so that stupid self check out will scan the bar code on just one can instead of the whole box.
    4. Purchase your 12 pack at the price of a 6 pack.

    But then again, you don't drink beer. However, I have yet to test it on a 12 pack of wine.

    11.28.07 - 09:54 AM
  • 461. typingelbow said:

    Wow, Dooce. You've got people threatening to smear dog shit on other people in your comments. You certainly do draw a lively crowd. Jeez.

    For what it's worth, I hate the self check-out systems, unless I'm just buying one or two simple things. (Don't even try to buy broccoli rabe on them. They don't know how to recognize veggies that aren't carrots or potatoes.)

    11.28.07 - 10:04 AM
  • 462. Lisa said:

    I hate those machines as well. I've never successfully been able to use one without some sort of glitch in the system that forced a real live person to stomp over to me (very unhappily I might add) and sigh while trying to "do it right".

    And while I'm here what in the name of Pete is up with people that read your blog and then blow all over the fact that you write about what you want to. And who cares that your life is different now than it was five years ago. Hell yeah it is. Life happens. Freaking Blog Commenting idiots need to find something else to do. I think in secret they really do love you and are jealous as hell of you...they wish they were as doocified as you are.

    Dooce on Heather B.

    11.28.07 - 10:17 AM
  • 463. Manda said:

    I'm glad I live in Canada where we still have bitchy teenagers to scan our items for us.

    I think it says something about the state of the world when we have to start outsourcing scanning groceries.

    11.28.07 - 10:20 AM
  • 464. annie said:

    I can usually handle the self checker nightmare. I tend to think it is just another damn machine that will steal your soul, but, after another day teaching teenagers, I don't really want to have to talk to one when buying beer.

    Last week my niece wanted to use a self-checker to make our purchase, so I let her. The machine freaked out instantly -- ITEM NOT RECOGNIZED (maybe sensed a child in its midst?) and The Self Check-Out Nazi came over, glared at both of us (bad flash back to first grade teacher hag) and took our items and did the whole process for us, glaring and sighing loudly the entire time...When we were leaving my niece pointedly looked from me to The Self Check-Out Nazi and said "That was not very nice" just loud enough so most people around us heard. The girl is a genius.

    Then last night while at Home Depot my husband of one week seemed to think he had to push the buttons on the self checker for me. I don't know if he believes that I shed IQ points and he gains them anytime we enter the home improvement realm, but I finally slapped his hand away and said "I CAN DO IT MYSELF!"

    Self checker Nazi-ed by my own husband.

    11.28.07 - 10:47 AM
  • 465. jam said:

    hahahahahahaha!!! that was fabulous. i love self-checkouts and will scowl at the humans in my vicinity who work there if they won't MAKE THE THING WORK!! but please, for the love of everything, don't do exotic produce in self-checkout. you will seriously claw your face off.

    11.28.07 - 10:58 AM
  • 466. kid wrangler said:

    Anonymous, YOU are one of the many things that is wrong with this country. You go Heather.

    11.28.07 - 10:58 AM
  • 467. Jehan said:

    I live in Baltimore, and around here self-checkouts are a godsend. Checkout lines with actual cashiers are a nightmare, because ghetto people go to the grocery store AND ghetto people work at the grocery store. And they all know each other. And they talk. To each other, to themselves, to everyone around them, and occasionally to the groceries. So, obviously, the customer and cashier would get so wound up in a "conversation" (always sounds more like a screaming match to me) that they'd forget about the FIFTY other people in line behind them, and hours would pass, day turns to night, leaves abandon their trees, and the milk I have turns to cheese, which is cool. That's what I came for. See? I plan for these things.

    11.28.07 - 10:59 AM
  • 468. hellohahanarf said:

    i abhore those damn self checkout lanes. they raise the prices on the products sold and fire the humans who would ring up my purchases, plus fire the humans who would pack my groceries. they want me to pay more for the goods AND work for them for free? i think not. nope. i'll stand in the long ass line and request to speak to a manager every time. plus i get to read all the gossip rags while i wait in line. fick em. ain't buying the magazine when i can read it for free.
    but, i don't have kids bouncing around, wanting to get the hell outta there.

    11.28.07 - 11:07 AM
  • 469. Jessie said:

    Thanks Dooce. Because of you, I yielded more than a few strange glances at Ralph's when I was cracking up over using that damn machine...

    11.28.07 - 11:07 AM
  • 470. BettyCrockerAss said:

    I only like them when I get to "forget" to scan stuff. I guess I didn't do enough shoplifting as a kid!

    11.28.07 - 11:09 AM
  • 471. Brian said:

    I don't why, but the idea just struck me.

    Outsourced caring = euphemism for prostitution.

    11.28.07 - 11:16 AM
  • 472. Ms. Pants said:

    My local grocery put in several self-checkouts a few years ago as a means to cut down on overhead costs by hiring fewer baggers and checkers (or perhaps firing a cadre of the ones they already had). They didn't lower any prices significantly to encourage me to shop more or use those self-check lanes so I didn't. No one else did either. But we all complained about them. Loudly. The machines lasted a month and then were removed entirely. Whee!!

    I can carry a bagillion plates to the table and not drop one or stick my fingers into any food. I was a waitress so that's a skill I retained. But I never checked groceries and therefore, I'm rendered immediately retarded when faced with a self-check lane. Just ask the guy at Home Depot who had to reboot the entire system when I broke it last week by doing.... something.

    11.28.07 - 11:20 AM
  • 473. bonkersmomof4 said:

    I just do almost all of my shopping at Aldi, where people somehow usually know how to behave themselves and act COURTEOUS. Very strange, I know, but that whole system works for me. Maybe it's the mix of poor old people and large families... I'm not sure, but I have the best times shopping at the one in Bartlett. It's like visiting with new friends every time!

    Self checkout is directly from hell.

    11.28.07 - 11:48 AM
  • 474. Pamela said:

    I don't want to be stoned or anything, and I'm ducking as I write this, but I actually prefer the self-checkout. Sure, it is a pain in the ass when the stupid thing invaribly tells you to take your first item & "place the item in the bag." Or a "Please wait for assistance" for no discernable reason. HOWEVER, It does mean no bananas thrown on top of the bread, or every canned item slipped in one bag when your eyes were turned for an instant. And I freely admit I am not herding a toddler while I do this.

    11.28.07 - 12:04 PM
  • 475. Wendy said:

    I simple tell the machine to go to hell, bag up my child, throw my groceries in the basket and walk out the grocery store. If a business can't pay to fake caring, then I shouldn't have to either.

    11.28.07 - 12:07 PM
  • 476. Lisa B-K said:

    Self-checkouts put people out of work, which sucks. I suspect the bottom line is the real reason we see them everywhere, not "convenience".

    That and they seem to deeply irritate the people who do end up having to use them.

    11.28.07 - 12:32 PM
  • 477. Usedtobeme said:

    Those self check out machines are pissy little gadgets and godforbid you need help because the cashier is positive I've been sent to ruin her life.

    11.28.07 - 12:38 PM
  • 478. Chris said:

    These machines are only good for a single person buying ten items or less, rather than two slow-moving combative old ladies and an overflowing shopping cart.

    11.28.07 - 12:39 PM
  • 479. Helen said:

    Even in England..and I never use them if I have kids with me, they ALWAYS lean on the damn bag thing and then I get yelled at by the machine for UNAUTHORISED ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA! I talk back to it too, so I look like a luntic into the bargain. Hate those damn machines.

    11.28.07 - 12:47 PM
  • 480. dangers.mom said:

    I love all the "Why didn't you just leave your kid at home?" comments. Yes, because that's the real problem and is always an option. "I'm so sorry you're hungry and thirsty Leta but Daddy is out of town so we can't go to the market until next Tuesday! Here's some carboard to chew on!"

    Self check out machines suck. I remember when they put them into the brand spanking new Albertson's they built in Culver City. NO ONE could make those stupid machines work. They were either encouraging you to steal with the "put your item in the bagging area!" or accusing you of stealing with the "unexpected item in the bagging area!"

    Now we live in small town Ventura county. The only store with self check out is Home Depot and still people are willing to wait in lines that wrap around the store twice to avoid using it.

    11.28.07 - 12:48 PM
  • 481. Kim said:

    I know this has nothing to do with your post about self checkouts.... but this is the best Spencer After Show clip ever
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=hmU4DFLQDIA&feature=related

    11.28.07 - 12:50 PM
  • 482. Adrienne said:

    I must share one fun experience my roommate and I had with the attendant assigned to the evil machines. We were at a very big chain here in Boston and they have a discount card that you must swipe in order to get the sales of the week. Hers is attached to her keychain, and the machine was having trouble reading it, getting stuck in the 'remove item from bagging area' loop, and when the lovely employee came over to check, she swiped the card once more.... didn't work. So she tried it again with him watching... still didn't work. She said something along the lines of "see, it's not reading my card!" And out of no where he screamed THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE EVERY TIME SWIPING YOUR CVS CARD!!

    Sometimes when we get frustrated with technology in our home we holler that at each other.

    11.28.07 - 12:53 PM
  • 483. Kelley said:

    I hated these machines at first, because they were just awful. But it seems like the more they pop up, the easier they are to use. Friendlier too.

    I'm from Nashville and I haven't really been anywhere that doesn't allow you to checkout with an actual human being, thank god.

    11.28.07 - 01:09 PM
  • 484. Plot said:

    The self-checks replace checkers; they put checkers out of jobs.

    I refuse to use them because I do not want to be part of the reason why someone can't get a job. That's just way totally not cool.

    11.28.07 - 01:22 PM
  • 485. Linsey said:

    My partner works at a library and they, too, have self check-out. It's easier than those piece of shit scanners at the grocery store, though. I have to say, in the world of the library, it appears that some people might just be too retarded to work any machine, because they can't follow directions.

    What makes me mad about my grocery store is the guy who is supposed to be helping when their machines go insane. He always leaves - wanders around to the bakery or god knows where - and then suddenly there is a pile-up because now every station isn't functioning properly. There's been a time or two where I've actually just left because it took him SO LONG to come back.

    Oh, I'm mad just thinking about it.

    11.28.07 - 01:23 PM
  • 486. Eva said:

    I'm working my first ever management position and one of the first battles I took on when I took the position was "Outsourced caring."

    I have a sign hanging in our break room that says, "Congratulations, you've given great service for ___ days." Service complaints are logged, and when one is received, the number gets set back to zero.

    I also have a sign by the door that says, "The best service you can give us is speaking up when you don't get our best service."

    And really, it is. Walking out may feel better in the short term, but you'll just be back screaming at the machine again next week if you don't speak up then and there.

    11.28.07 - 02:05 PM
  • 487. dewi said:

    I like humans.
    I enjoy being nice and friendly to the checkout person. I spend the day at a computer or a on a phone. It's the right thing to be nice and friendly to people who are low paid, and working too hard for their money.

    11.28.07 - 03:12 PM
  • 488. webgrrlie said:

    while i agree with you (for the most part), and TOTALLY sympathize, we have a couple of cashiers at our local grocers who are borderline nosey. and this particular grocers doesn't have self-checkout yet, but oh! what we would give for it when either of these people are the only checkers available.

    like your cereal, they carry these particular pickles that no one else local carries. they are those large dill ones that are individually bagged? so my husband may by 8-10 at a time, every two or three days. and god forbid the same checker is there two visits in a row, because they invariably say something rude, like, "didn't you just buy some of these the other day?" or "wow, you sure do like pickles!"

    and not to go on and on, but there is another checker, who as each person departs, always says, "see you tomorrow," which i find particularly annoying. as i said, in certain cases, i would give anything for self-checkout...

    11.28.07 - 03:33 PM
  • 489. Debi said:

    This is hilarious!

    I was at IKEA on the Saturday after Thanksgiving (which, by the way has started a expensive chain of bad luck--punctured tires, etc.) and found that only the four self checkout lanes were opened.

    That was my last trip ever to IKEA.
    Tag, and you can kiss my derriere.

    11.28.07 - 04:06 PM
  • 490. me said:

    I hate those machines. Just absolutely hate them. You should have sucker punched it and the stupid human who came over with attitude.
    I have a 2.5year old son and I can't put him in the shopping cart either. Screams like someone put a knife to his throat. So you are not alone! Hang in there! Sometimes I want to kill myself for having thought I could handle a baby/toddler/totally other human being. But now I'm stuck with him. Hurray.

    11.28.07 - 04:18 PM
  • 491. Lia said:

    I once got a blue screen of death at a self checkout. It was just when I was paying with my credit card.

    I had to re-do everything and it turns out that the original transaction went through so I had to get a refund for the second transaction three weeks later.

    I now go to the more expensive stores so I can have a real cashier.

    11.28.07 - 04:20 PM
  • 492. melody said:

    There was the time I had trouble with the self-checkout. I was my 3 younger sons...picture cerebral palsy, Bipolar/ADHD and Asperger's syndrome and each of them in a melt down. The cashier who "oh my God!" had to help me...after looking the boys up and down her nose...said, "Lady, can you spell R-I-T-A-L-I-N?"

    Now I'm not a person of foul language or impolite behaviors or murderous acts...except for that one time.

    11.28.07 - 05:31 PM
  • 493. bipolarbear said:

    I have a love/hate relationship with the self-checkout. Love because then I don't have to deal with the moron they've hired to run the register, who doesn't speak English, and who bags all the groceries with the aplomb of a mayfly on acid. Hate them because they rarely work all the way through a transaction, and so far, the prices haven't come down at all.

    11.28.07 - 05:52 PM
  • 494. kelly said:

    i think i love you for your hills references alone! (and the bbys too) i'm 31 and all over some lauren/heidi drama :/ i don't know what that makes me.

    11.28.07 - 05:58 PM
  • 495. Shannon said:

    I both love and hate the self-checkout... I had the exact same problem that you did Heather! When trying to use them, I tend to start yelling back at them as though they can hear me. I don't know why, I just do! I am short, sometimes my purse hits the ledge that you scan things on. Then the robot yells! Sometimes my item doesn't weigh what it thinks it should and then it really goes off thinking I am trying to steal! I just yell back and get all pissed. It's even better when someone starts to self-scan AN ENTIRE CART OF GROCERIES! That one kills me! :)

    11.28.07 - 06:05 PM
  • 496. Jessica said:

    I don't have anything particularly against the machines. Actually, since during at least one week a month I turn into a troll and try to avoid any human contact at all, they can be pretty darn useful! It's the "Outsourced Caring" that I despise in general. A brilliant description! That person who called your daughter "kid" needed a good punch in the nose, I say. She's lucky she only got the f-bomb. Ha! No, I don't actually go around punching mouthy malcontents in the nose. But it makes me feel better to imagine it some days. *evil cackle*

    11.28.07 - 06:08 PM
  • 497. Jessica said:

    I also think that webgrrlie's husband should buy a package of condoms with the pickles next time. Maybe that would quiet down the nosey cashier! lol

    11.28.07 - 06:11 PM
  • 498. Laurel said:

    Big fan, Heather. You make me laugh on days when I really need it.

    Anyway, it feels almost mean to tell this story after what you experienced, but I can't help myself. I expected the worst when I realized I needed a few things for Thanksgiving about 4pm the day before. My two year old daughter/howler monkey in tow, I headed to New Seasons (is this a Portland thing?) whose tagline is "The friendliest store in town," which isn't always the case. I pulled into their tiny parking lot, where they had actual parking attendants directing the onslaught of cars, and was directed to a space in seconds. The store was a madhouse, but we blew through there in no time and then I steeled myself for the checkout lines, but... there weren't any! Every lane was open and had a bagger. As I started to unload my cart, an employee came up to me and asked if I'd like to sample a beaujolais nouveau (I swear I'm not making this up). As I continued to unload with one hand and drink wine with the other, ANOTHER employee offered to unload my cart for me. They gave my cranky, whining angel a sticker, handed me my receipt and we were out the door, where another parking attendant held up traffic while I put my groceries in the car, then took my cart from me and continued to hold traffic while I loaded my squirming child into her car seat and backed out. Now THAT'S FRIGGIN SERVICE!

    11.28.07 - 06:30 PM
  • 499. Colleen said:

    Apparently, bad service is everywhere. I especially love it when the clerk at the grocery store rolls her eyes at me because - God forbid - I actually make her earn her pay by doing some work.I feel like I have to apologize for coming to the grocery store to spend my money because I have inconvenienced the hired staff by showing up.

    Go figure.

    11.28.07 - 06:59 PM
  • 500. Anonymous said:

    I would have kicked the bitch. Oh, and the computer, too.

    11.28.07 - 07:23 PM
  • 501. Hope said:

    I've been lucky enough that the self scanning machines in Madison function pretty well and I rush towards them whenever possible. Maybe it's because I'd rather deal with a machine than the rude clerks. The one thing that does annoy me is the obnoxiously loud volume on the self scanners. The first time it reads the price aloud I nearly crap myself.

    11.28.07 - 07:26 PM
  • 502. Terri Sinclair said:

    Have hope. When Leta reaches the age of 8 and above she will be able to use any machine automatically, just by looking at it. When I check out of the store I stand back and watch in amazement as the 13 year old scans, weighs and swipes in short order while I stand there scratching my head. It's built into "them". Any of this technology comes automatically to them. If Leta was 13 you could have had your redesign up and running in less than 24 hours! Really. Jon could have given you a nice oil massage and by the time you got out of a hot shower the web site would be have been done. That's what you have kids for these days, didn't you know?

    11.28.07 - 07:32 PM
  • 503. CareBear said:

    Wow...I can't believe all of the animosity coming from "Anonymous". Over a blog post. About someones life. About something that just about all of us have had mad issues with.

    Chill out Anonymous. Yikes. (yes, I said yikes)

    11.28.07 - 08:02 PM
  • 504. llcoolbrown said:

    You know, I love your mastheads but this one kind of looks rushed. The white curved lines remind me of wonder woman and that is so not you. I dig the purple and Chuck, well he's awesome as usual. But I'm not feeling the white even in the stars. Like you care I'm sure.

    LLB

    11.28.07 - 08:34 PM
  • 505. lummels said:

    heather, you are so f*cking HILARIOUS.
    as the mother to a so-called "spirited" nearly-two-year-old-hellion boy, and as a usability researcher 8 to 5, i laughed and cried through this entry. i think my favorite, ever. it's all summed up here.
    thanks, sister!

    11.28.07 - 09:50 PM
  • 506. Batwing said:

    Nobody's even mentioned the hell of juggling your kid, the kid's gear, your carry-ons, your e-ticket number, your wallet, and your credit card at those self-service kiosks at the airport. I have leaned on them and wept, loudly, till the one attendant serving 7 machines finally got around to helping me out.

    And to the asshat making the mom's life even worse (and the commenters who self-righteously defend him/her): one, no matter how much you hate kids now, you were one, and I'm betting that if you are willing to snarl at other people as an adult you were no picnic as a kid, either. Also keep in mind that YOUR mother likely chatted amiably with a clerk who had handed you a piece of candy to keep you busy, and then she got to hold your hand as you both walked alongside the bagger to her car, no tip expected. Or that's how I remember it way back in the way back of the 70s in a mid-sized, midwestern town.

    11.28.07 - 10:10 PM
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