Where is Heather and what have you done with her body?
So a lot of people have some pretty strong opinions about my diet. WHO KNEW. I don't think I've written something so controversial since I announced that I was pregnant and was flooded with some angry email about why? WHY? Why go and do that? NOT THAT! NOT A HUMAN BABY! Because then I'd change and this website would become nothing but teddy bears and Martha Stewart craft projects (which I have nothing against, I just tend to glue my fingers together). I'd lose my edge and write about nothing but play dates and which breast pump was easiest on the nipples. And I was all, let me get this straight, I have a choice between keeping you as a reader of my website or bringing precious life into this world? Hmmm. Let me think about that one.
Now I've got people worried that if I choose to give up meat something similar will happen. Perhaps I should mention that I was a vegetarian for almost eight years, from the beginning of college up through the time that I moved to Los Angeles. During those years (Dad, please turn your head for the rest of this sentence) I left the Mormon Church, had premarital sex, smoked pot, and said fuck for the first time out loud. So you can pretty much blame all those corrupt vegetables for the apartment I have reserved in Hell.
No, I am not going to become a preachy vegetarian, or, depending on how I feel after this cleanse, a preachy VEGAN. THERE I SAID IT. I may just give up animal products all together, I haven't decided yet, but it seems just that much more tempting because the word pisses so many people off. It's as if the definition of the word for many people who eat meat is I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG. And although I've met some pretty insufferable vegans in my lifetime, ones who spend their lives being very angry at anyone who eats differently than they do, the majority of the ones I know are lovely, thoughtful people who have made a personal choice. And of course they are the ones who are making the most convincing argument for their lifestyle.
(I should probably point out that I've met some pretty insufferable omnivores, too, but most of them spend their lives being very angry at anyone who has a bigger penis.)
Do I think that a 21-day cleanse is going to solve all my problems? Of course not. I never said it would. It is a start, a first step toward something bigger. I have physically felt like crap for years, and considering how I feel right now on day three of a cleanse it's pretty obvious I've got some serious problems with my diet, in particular with caffeine. I have a headache that started yesterday afternoon and continued up until about an hour ago, a headache so awful that I thought jabbing my hand with a knife might be a more pleasant distraction. I normally drink about four to five cups of coffee every morning, plus two or three Diet Cokes in the afternoon. And then the sugar, THE SUGAR, and oh, the alcoholic drink I have with dinner that sometimes ends up being the alcoholic drinks I have with dinner. I've got some major changes to make concerning what I put in my body, and knowing my mind and habits, I decided that this cleanse would set me in the right direction. When the 21 days are over I'm certain I will add sugar and caffeine and alcohol back into my diet, albeit in smaller, more thoughtful quantities than a 32-oz Frappuccino spiked with rum.
Will I add gluten back into my diet? I don't know yet, that depends on how good or bad I feel at the end, or if adding it back causes some serious problems. And as for meat, I still don't know but I am open right now to the possibility of giving it up. That's been the weirdest thing so far about this experience, how reasonable this diet seems as I'm eating. Many people in yesterday's comments suggested that this is a "deprivation" diet, and I could not disagree more. I'm blown away by how much there is to eat, and it almost feels like I'm cheating. All three meals I had yesterday and the two I've had today have been totally filling, and not once have I craved a sugary dessert. Do I feel like shit? OH DO I EVER FEEL LIKE SHIT. I feel like I've simultaneously got the flu, a cold, and strep throat. But I'd heard this might happen early on as the body rids itself of toxins. And I'm going to allow my body some time considering how badly I've treated it for so long.
As far as giving away my Meat is Murder, Tasty, Tasty Murder t-shirt? Never, although I could be tempted to send it to a vegetarian who promises to wear it to a vegan restaurant.
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305. Lisa Braithwaite said:
Heather, I tried a cleanse like that last year, and what's funny is that I didn't feel any better or worse than I normally do! But then again, I've been vegetarian for 19 years, gave up caffeine 5 years ago, and eat very little gluten, and maybe didn't have as many toxins to dump as other people.
I find it fascinating how so many people are threatened by vegetarianism, yet everywhere I go, omnivores try to impress me with how little meat they eat. The minute I mention that I'm a vegetarian, a competition ensues among the meat-eaters to see who can prove they eat the least meat.
This is in huge contrast to the way it was back in the day when everyone assumed that we lived on alfalfa sprouts and must be starving all the time.
I have TONS of delicious, fun, and even decadent vegetarian and vegan recipes that have nothing to do with brown rice and steamed vegetables, if you ever need some ideas.
306. Shuying said:
Hi Heather,
good luck with your cleanse! Read http://www.ourplaceinternational.com/ for articles that might help you along.
I went on a 4day fast many years ago and have stopped eating meat since. It has left me feeling physically (and more importantly, mentally) better. =)I hope you will feel great too!
Don't do anything extreme like working out or popping detox pills by the way. Just let your body have a good rest! =)
307. Lane said:
Best wishes on the cleanse. That sounds intriguing and I may look into that.
Out of my own curiosity (and to help shut up the people who think there's nothing to eat that doesn't involve cheese or beef), you could post about some of the things you're making, even a recipe for something you find particularly tasty.
Just a thought anyway. :)
308. Water4Gas said:
Honestly, I always feel better after gouging on bloody rare steak. That and a gigantic bowl of moose tracks ice cream....
309. Sarah Hague said:
I do so agree with you about caffeine. I was drinking a couple of coffees a day and they just got larger in size as time went on. Finally, the guy who plied me with this stuff left and I went cold turkey giving up fresh coffee.
I felt so much better afterwards that I've never gone back. Being English, I have to have my tea, but coffee is addictive and makes you jittery, especially the stuff we have here in France. It's lethal!
311. Diana said:
I started a juice fast on May 1st and ended on May 30th. It really makes people uncomfortable when you tell them you haven't eaten any food for 30 days. Even my family and friends, who where somewhat supportive, couldn't stop talking about when oh, when was I finally going to eat. It almost made me want to go longer! This was my 4th and longest cleanse. There's really no way to explain wanting to do something like this to those who don't understand, but there are many thousands of us who do fasting/cleansing on a regular basis and feel great because of it. Besides breaking bad eating habits, it puts me back in control of my life. There's also a spiritual aspect for me, which has to do with digging deep inside myself and finding I am strong enough to do absolutely anything.
So I wish you good luck and good health with this cleanse, and I know it will reveal many things to you. If I could have given you one piece of advice before you started, though, I would have told you to go off caffeine about a week before you started - I learned this the hard way during my first fast - never again!
313. SwissBarb said:
The funniest (ok, most annoying) comment I get over and over again when I say I don't eat meat, and try to give up fish as much as I humanly can, is "Oh but then what do you eat?". Hello?!? Even been to a market or supermarket? *rolls eyes*
314. The Voracious Vegan said:
My darling Dooce! Oh! Just hearing the word vegan come out of your mouth (errr...fingertips?) made me swoon! Although, I feel a bit like I'm living in the twilight zone. A few months ago I was hanging out with some of my vegan buddies and we were pondering who we would love to see go vegan. And my two answers were Oprah and Dooce! And what do you know!?!?!
You are amazing and definitely headed down the right path. The changes you will feel physically and emotionally will be so worth it. And there is never any reason to feel deprived living a vegan lifestyle, just check out my blog for proof of all of the decadently delicious food you can have. (Barbecue burgers? Carrot Cake? Vegan Cheesecake that no omni has ever believed was vegan!) I can't wait to hear how everything is going for you. Like always, you are an inspiring woman and I love to read what you have to say!
316. Lozza said:
I love the t-shirt!!!
317. The Voracious Vegan said:
Just a quick note: a vegan diet is not an eating disorder. For me and many others it is a way of removing ourselves from the violence and brutal torture that 55 billion sentient animals undergo to be made into food every year.
I eat what I want, when I want and however I want. There is absolutely no dieting aspect for me in being a vegan, there is no restriction at all, because animal products are simply not food. On a given day I might eat a raw veggie salad, a vegan cheesecake, fig and molasses muffins, spicy fire roasted tomato pasta, hummus and bread, portabello mushroom burgers, etc, etc.
The health benefits I have reaped since becoming a vegan are a happy side effect, not the main goal. I couldn't live with myself knowing I was contributing to so much fear and pain in the world and therefore a vegan diet was the only way to go.
Most of the deaths in the US are caused by the standard american diet, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity, strokes, etc. THAT is an eating disorder.
318. Katie said:
When I read yesterday's post I went right on over to Oprah's site to check out what you were talking about. What's wrong with taking steps toward positive change? Nuddin. Jeeze Louise!
I'm super stoked to follow your adventures in cleansing here. Also, Coco's butt looks MARVY.
319. Diana said:
"The reason this makes your family and friends uncomfortable is that that is, in tone and verbiage, the exact language anorexics use to talk about their eating disorder."
I do not and have never had an eating disorder. I do not use fasting in some kind of macho attempt to see how tough I am, nor does it have anything to do with body image. For me, it's like spring cleaning. It's a chance to give my digestive system a break, to reset. I usually do 14 to 21 days, which feels like the right amount of time for me. I did 30 days this last time, because some people really enjoy the longer time period, but for me it seemed too long.
And here again, I'm justifying something I choose to do for myself to someone who writes anonymously, throwing around the scare of an eating disorder. Fasting has been practiced by humans for thousands of years, for many reasons, and it can be done in a healthy way. My doctor has been aware of every fast I've done, and has never once shown concern that I might have an eating disorder.
But thanks for your concern.
320. Noah said:
Denis Leary said it slightly less best than you. First entry and I'm hooked. Best of luck on your cleansing, I'll make sure I read your next one with a roast pig in my mouth and a latte-laced bottle of Jack in my hand.
321. Lee said:
first time caller, long time listener as they say on talk back radio here in New Zealand....
I've been vegetarian for 23 years now and have had no problems with it apart from the odd protein craving when I haven't been paying enough attention to what goes in my mouth. I eat nuts and dairy and eggs and that weird soy-protein dressed up as meat stuff as well as lentils and rice (together to create a whole protein) to keep the levels up.
And I am well and happy and fulfilled.
And there are no dead animal carcasses decomposing inside my body.
I heard cows screaming one morning when we were filming near a meat works and that was it. They were screaming. Some of my best friends are animals - no better and no worse than me - and I don't want their bodies rotting inside me.
Enough of that.
I also have been gluten free for 2 years now at the suggestion of my gastroenterologist and have noticed a definite overall improvement in my wellbeing, I feel lighter and no longer suffer the bloat that had people constantly asking me if I was pregnant...boring boring boring. I am 40 and skinny and comments like that are soul destroying as is having to dress to hide the inevitable bulge that grew throughout the day.
I'm not a health freak hippie by a long shot, I work in film and have an adorable 3 yr old and am a normal well balanced happy woman, I just chose not to turn a blind eye, to cause animal suffering and be a graveyard for their bodies, yummy or not.
Well done for actually thinking about it, not may people do. Apart from the whole save-the-planet malarkey I'm sure that the lessening of the cognitive dissonance will help you find some type of spiritual calmness.
And thank you, really thank you, for your blog. You have brightened some bad spots in my life and given me much happiness. If you're ever over this way look me up and drink far too much wine with me whilst our children play and our fellow geek husbands nerd out.
322. Kathy said:
As someone who's been a vegetarian for over a decade, and at one time was a vegan, I always try to make it a point not to say anything negative about else's diet, because I feel like it's expected of me. (I can be the Skittles and Diet Coke vegetarian, easy. I don't always have the greatest eating habits.) I live in the meat-loving midwest, so I'm constantly fielding stupid questions, which I try to answer as patiently as possible. Lately, it's become a non-issue.
I haven't done a cleanse, but I've gone on a modified Macrobiotic diet a few times, and felt great afterwords (minus the intense craving for sugar and caffeine.) Good luck!
323. enny said:
I consider myself one of the lovely, thoughtful vegans - and I say GOOD ON YOU!
I chose veganism for compassionate reasons, meaning I'm all for carbs and sugar (though I understand the benefit of forgoing them), and I'm really excited to hear how you go with it all (and hoping the crazies don't come out and stop you from talking about it).
When you do it for the right reasons, there's nothing hard about it :o)
324. Maia said:
I did a 7 day cleanse a few months ago, and while I craved cheese more than anything, I pretty much stuck with it. Best of luck on your 21 day cleanse!
What I found is that I appreciated simple food more after the cleanse. Perhaps you will find that too?
Sometimes, people get personal about the food they eat because they're not comfortable about the food they eat. Plus they think that your decision is somehow judging them. I'm giving the 'eating meat' thing a good bit of thought lately, too. The more I hear about the meat industry and how animals are treated, the more I don't want to support it.
All the best to you Heather in deciding what you need to do.
325. Sylvia said:
Recipes! Or at least dish names so we can get inspired.
The captcha wants me to type frivolty marrow - it's a sign!
326. Stephanie said:
I was at a staff meeting where all but 2 or 3 people of the 15 were overweight or fat. We were provided fried chicken, mayo salads, cake, garlic bread, and some fruit for our working lunch.
A vegetarian runner quietly loaded her plate with fruit. When the grilling of her began, stated she had something in her office she would eat if she got hungry later.
You would have thought she just announced she was going to eat an infant by the reactions. All focus went to her.
Note, she did not care that other people were stuffing their faces with crap. She never said or announced anything. She got some fruit.
And it offended people.
She being a thin, healthy, runner. How dare she?
I think only because healthy people hold up a mirror. When you are 80 lbs over weight and have a plate o' fried chicken with mayonnaise salads and will make sweet love to a tub of icecream later that night...uh, maybe you are not making the healthy choices others make? No, No, dont examine that. Put the focus on tearing down the skinny girl.
Eat what you want. Threatened rude people will always be that. It is easier to yell at people than to prevent heart disease.
327. keagansmom said:
The "meat" shirt can be found at "threadless.com". If it's still in stock. It goes fast, but ask for a reprint! they have other awesome shirts as well.
328. Jarrard said:
Congratulations on committing to the cleansing diet. I have considered it a million times over, but haven't done it yet. I also have felt like hell physically for awhile now and have friends who tell me that this is a great way to find out why.... Maybe when the boating season is over I will be willing to give up the hamburgers and alcohol. Oh wait, then it will be the holiday season here in the South. I'm screwed.
I'm headed to Destin today!!!!!!! I loved reading the posts of your trip. It is a beautiful place and full of so many memories. I've grown up going there and I guess I take it for granted. Sadness.....
330. Helen said:
You see, I agree with you and then I read one of your commentors saying 'Anything white is shit. Meat makes you feel like the animal you're eating.' and I remember why vegetarians annoy me. But of course, not all vegetarians say stupid things, so it's really stupid people who annoy me, which is better although still not totally OK, as I should be more tolerant. I think.
I eat everything, but I avoid processed food and I keep my fat and sugar low. I've tried cutting out wheat, yeast and dairy at different times and nothing made the slightest difference, thank God. Have you read Barbara Kingsolver's 'Animal, Vegetable, Miracle'? http://tinyurl.com/4y6voa ?
I usually get terminally bored when people start talking or writing about cleanses, because I know that they really just want an excuse to talk about their bowels, but I'm sure that you'll be different. And yes, pissing people off is the best reason I've heard yet for becoming a vegan.
And tell me, I've wondered, is 'Coco' short for Coprophile?
331. Helen said:
It's me again. I went from reading you to one of my other favourites and says it all so much better than I do http://knittinglinguist.blogspot.com/2008/06/mileage.html
332. selena said:
dude, awesome. you go girl. it's about your health, your happiness, and your peace of mind.
333. stacy said:
i love reading about things like this cleansing attempt. i love reading the posts my friends write about sticking to things that are hard, but personally rewarding. good for you, and i'm glad the headaches have gone away.
when i read the chapter about worker's lives working for Con Agra in Fast Food Nation, i made some lifestyle changes and have been happy with them ever since. while i don't want to give up meat (a perfectly cooked steak and frites is my idea of restoring humanity to myself after a rough day or week), i can make choices about what kinds of meat i buy, how often i consume it, and how thoughtful i am about that process and its preparation. so my partner and i eat less meat, we buy organic or humanely farmed meat, and we really think about what we're going to do with it instead of just treating it like something to stuff in our pie-holes. i realize not everyone can afford or choose to make these choices, but it's also been my choice to not have children (at least not yet), not eat out, not have cable or not have a mortgage, and so i can make these kinds of lifestyle concessions. while i've never been able to afford to totally shop in an organic market or co-op, or all at the farmer's market, i have been able to find out which is best to buy where. and the meat that i cook now? better tasting than it ever was buying at the normal grocery store or unorganic options. even my boyfriend likes chicken now.
334. Luana said:
My favorite post from yesterday was from someone who said, Don't go vegetarian, take up meditation instead! As if meditation is easier or something.
Reading that people have "issues" with what YOU eat is making my day. These comments are hilarious.
Except for that Brian dude, he's a total douche.
335. Candy McDowall said:
You go girl!
I am neither vegan nor vegetarian. I am a carnivorous couch potato who used to laugh at my college roomates who thought Jane Fonda was their aerobic hero. Were it not for the extremely fortunate gene-pool from which I sprang, I would be 650 pounds of chocolate-craving fool.
But I learned long ago that my choices (as unhealthy and yet appetizing as they may seem to me) are not other people's choices. I wish others could do the same.
More power to the ones who can live their own lives despite the attempted interference from others. Thank you for speaking out against peer pressure and conformity.
And I hope you are feeling better, stronger, faster soon like the Wonder Woman you are. (or was that the Bionic Woman? whatever...)
-Candy McD
336. Nina said:
I think it is great trying the 21 day cleanse. Do you find it hard to make different meals for your hubby and Leta or are you all eating the same thing?
I recently read the "Skinny Bitch" books and they are very pro-vegan. I love the way the book is written.
I too am giving up some of the meat in my diet for veggie burgers and tofu - it's all actually pretty good.
Good luck Heather - I am cheering for you
337. Mom Quixote said:
Giving all of that up at once is no joke. I don't even want to give up coffee, except I'm trying to get pregnant, so there's that.
It took me a long while to realize even one sip of alcohol made me feel like shit, but eventually figured it out. Now it's like an after-school special when I'm the only one out and about not drinking. Everyone has a problem with change. You just have to do your thing. But you already know that.
338. Jonas Kamper said:
a "cleaner", more sober and sharper Heather.
ooOOoO critics watch out!
339. Kai said:
As a 16-year vegetarian (simply because I don't really LIKE meat, fish, or poultry all that much), I can tell you that I rarely miss it. But, honestly, I could never be a vegan. I like eggs, I like milk. I've come to terms with that.
But I AM very interested in hearing about this cleanse as you go through it, because I am certain I could handle 21 days as a vegan and begin to slowly rebuild. Is there any way you could add a small every-other-day feature like your photos where we can check on your status but those who are oh-so-offended don't have to read unless they click?
340. Mary W said:
Like I said yesterday, I've done an elimination diet and it was one of the best things I've ever done. Difficult? Yes, especially considering how often we eat out. But there is soooo much food out there. Just look. I discovered my problem is specifically wheat, not gluten, so don't be too restrictive when you add foods back into your diet.
341. Vintage Kids' Books My Kid Loves said:
No way dude. You are totally doing the right thing.... This part you wrote yesterday... that is what we all want, and whatever it takes to get there, more power to you.
"I want to be a better wife, a more conscious and present mother, a more loyal friend, and a better listener. I'd like to handle my anxiety better. I also want to be more organized because I'm tired and fed up with not being able to find anything."
342. Wide Open Spaces said:
I can't get over that people are trying to give you grief over trying to be healthier!
I wish you would share WHAT you ARE eating on the cleanse though.
343. A said:
I'm really not sure why other people are concerned about your eating habits. As long as you HAVE eating habits, and that they are eating habits that do not involve copious amounts of KFC or McDeath, then I see no problem.
Hey man, if you can resist the smell of BBQ meat in the summertime, more power to ya!
344. Anonymous said:
This diet is a sin. A Really. Bad. Idea.
OH WAIT- I don't actually have to do it along with you? You aren't going to climb through my computer and stomp on me as I eat my bacon, egg and cheese on this tasty, yeasty bread? OOOOOOHHHHHH - whew! For a minute there I thought YOUR life choices just might impact MY life. Well, let me continue on then. Back to licking bacon grease off my grubby gluteny fingers. And coffee! Yes. Sweet. Coffee.
Good luck with the cleanse and whatever form it takes after 21 days!
345. Lyla Lou said:
After working in a steakhouse for a year, eating red meat everyday while drinking soda and gaining 30 lbs, I decided to do the cleanse. It was absolutely the best decision I ever made in my life! I felt amazing, dropped the 30 lbs, and have never looked better. I slowly added things back, and I don't think I will ever be completely meat free again, I learned that moderation is key. Good luck to you!!
346. Wendy said:
Rock on! I hope that this cleanse does wonders for your body and mind. I was vegan for a year and it is amazing how you feel once you get all that junk food out of your system. I'm too damned lazy or I would still be vegan, but not a preachy vegan ;)
347. Eryn said:
Good for you Heather! I would love to do a cleanse but I am afraid.
348. Alexandra said:
I think your cleanse is a good idea. I've been contemplating going on one myself, and I think that anything that will make your body feel cleaner and better for a bit, and flush out impurities is a good idea. Good luck with it!
349. ShakenFruit said:
I highly recommend reading In Defense of Food, by Michael Pollen, if you haven't already. A non-preachy dissection of food industry products as compares to what humans have eaten over the eons.
350. Mae said:
Not that you need another comment but, my sister just went through a cleansing and she was most surprised to find that cheese was one of her enemies in that upon eating it, she felt immedately fatigued. She couldn't have come to this conclusion without the cleansing as it heightens your senses as to what is going on with your body. Also, I totally understand the sort of "new beginnings" part of it. Kind of just a "hey wait a minute, exactly what is going on here?" kind of thing. Your life is relatively crazy right now. This sort of stopping and taking a new direction is a good thing. (Hope that satisfies the folks who came on here looking for signs of Martha-isms!)
351. mac daniels said:
if a diet brings out angry comments, maybe ridding yourself of toxins is a metaphor.
352. Gettysburg Mom said:
Congratulations on trying to make a positive change in your life. Good luck. Me? I'm off to get myself an Irish Coffee. I do have boundaries about drinking in the mornings. Until Noon, only Irish Coffee is polite.
353. Bridget said:
I didn't go through all 360+ comments on this post, so if someone else mentioned it, I apologize. But, I received the vegan recipe book "Skinny Bitch in the Kitch" as a gift this past year and I think you should check it out. Not only is it written with an attitude I think you'd enjoy, but the recipes are also delish! Good luck with the lifestyle change!
354. Adventures In Babywearing said:
Love it. I went vegan for health reasons and cheat once in a while (cheese is just too good.) I am definitely not vegan for animal rights purposes and even though I am mostly vegan, those activists put me on edge. If you haven't seen Molly Shannon's movie The Year Of The Dog, it's such a good interpretation about the balance of it all...
Steph
355. Beej said:
I don't care if you eat nothing but toothpicks for the rest of your life. Do what'cha gotta do. But when you start using those stupid foot Japanese food pad things to rid yourself of toxins and blogging about it, then I am gonna have something to say about it.
LOL.
356. Mandy said:
GOD PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES!
Heather, it is nobody's damn business if you eat meat, vegetables or Chuck for crying out loud. I hope you continue the cleanse and I hope it helps YOU. And hope everybody else just shuts up.
357. MAGGIE AT COFFEESHOPMAFIA said:
Good luck. If you make it 21 days you are a much stronger person than I. I tried giving up sugar and caffeine and it was the hardest 4 hours of my life.
As far as meat and vegans. Each to their own. I personally love meat and crave it. I however, think it's great when a person recognizes what their body needs.
358. Kim said:
It never ceases to amaze me when people get so offended by someone else's choice to do X, Y, or Z when it doesn't affect them directly, prime examples being gay marriage and becoming vegetarian/vegan. Can't they do something more constructive, like be offended when someone votes republican?
Once, I went on a date with a vegetarian. He said something to piss me off before we even ordered dinner, so I ended up ordering the veal ravioli. Tasty, tasty murder indeed.
359. Stacy said:
I went vegan for 4 months and in the beginning had mad diarrhea for a week and nasty gas for about a month. But I felt great after that! Luckily I work from home, so I could run to the bathroom every hour. Is that too much information?
The biggest setback for me was eating dinner over other people's houses. I felt like I was putting them out having to request special dishes, so I would bring a vegan side dish and fill up at home before going to their house.
And I definitely don't judge anyone for their food choices. We all have our own personal journey - there is no right or wrong.
360. Denise said:
It's hilarious to me how upset people get over what OTHER people do with their lives, maybe they feel guilty because they have no discipline and they can't stand to hear it when someone else does. Personally I can't give up the Dairy but that's just me, I won't be butt hurt if someone else is say lactose intolerant.
361. Stacie said:
I think going on this cleanse is fantastic. Anything that, cleanses, re-invigorates, and raises your awareness cannot be bad! My best friend from college was a vegetarian, and when she met her now husband, she ventured into being a vegan. When she started she had a friend that would leave messages on her answering machine with statements, like..."Buttermilk Pancakes!", "Chocolate-Chip Cookies!", "Ralph's Butter Cream Frosting Cake!" Stuff like that. All I'm sayin, is it's something to think about....
Never, ever, ever will you be able to eat Chocolate!
362. sara said:
I recently finished this same 21 day detox. Every meal was so fulfilling that I found myself bowing my head in a prayer of thanks before I ate - something I've never done. I've gradually added my morning up of coffee back in and 3+ more drinks a week, but I'm still staying away from dairy, beef, pork, wheat, most of the bad things. I'm so glad I'm doing this now, as my daughter is 1 and as we're beginning to incorporate solids into her diet, I'm realizing the world has a real problem with H.F.C.S, and all its counterparts. I'm very happy for you. I've been reading your blog daily since '02 (we share the same wedding day and I think thats how I found you). I've never posted a comment so I hope you've read this. Come visit MPLS, MN sometime!
363. JennyE said:
I must admit, I was worried about the T-shirt. Glad to hear that you're keeping it!
(I'm a former vegetarian myself- 13 years strong, been eating meat for the past two. Good luck with the cleanse- it kinda sounds like a good idea!)
364. Rebecca said:
You've just so eloquently expressed (as usual) what I've been trying to explain to people for years, since my husband and I went vegetarian... the daunting "WHY?!?". The simple answer was always just because we wanted to, and there really wasn't this huge noble, self-righteous thing behind it. We just did. We felt it would be healthier for us ...and in a way it instantly was because you know, fast food quickly becomes a non option when you give up meat... so do most frozen meals, and other really bad for you junk...it instantly eliminates a whole spectrum of crap from your diet with just one simple choice! :)... Ben and Jerry's however, is still vegetarian, and those morningstar thingys are really really yummy... and after a while you learn to scope out all the vegetarian junk food too.. :)
Anyway, good for you for thinking about your health and well being. (and as much as an animal loving, animal rights activist...etc, I am.. I still think the meat is murder shirt is really funny too.. as did I the Jim Gaffigan Bacon routine... heck.. people need to lighten up.)
365. Elise said:
I understand "feeling like crap" for years, vaguely associating it with the food I ate and being desperate to do something about it. In my case, years of semi-illness, fatigue, depression and anxiety ultimately culminated in an acute medical crisis that resulted in my diagnosis of celiac disease. I've been gluten-free for twelve years and have never felt (or eaten) better. I hope you can find a solution to your specific issues and that the cleanse provides some relief and perspective.
However, as a health educator, it's my opinion that doing something like this without supervision from a doctor or a good dietitian is not the best route to addressing your issues. If there is a food intolerance, it will be difficult to tease out what it is without the knowledge that an educated and informed dietitian can provide. And there are food-related diseases, like celiac disease & gluten, that need a higher level of management and a definitive diagnosis. There is a simple blood test for celiac disease that can be administered by any primary care doctor, if you are interested they are listed in the following link:
http://www.bidmc.harvard.edu/display.asp?node_id=10686
Good luck,
Elise
366. Lynne said:
Heather, good luck. My hubby and I are vegetarian (he's vegan) for 15 years now. And, yes, freaky people get offended and un-nerved by it. Beyond me. I did have to teach my husband to be a bit less militant with his veganism.
However, I have to admit that I did have one problem with The Post. Talk about your diet all you want, it's yours. Own it. However, the use of the O word...you know....Oprah. I just couldn't hang with that. So, if you could, references to the mighty She of TV (and the rest of the world) really should be kept to a minimum.
Thanks, and good luck with that whole caffeine thing. It reminds me of that Charleton Heston soundbite: "out of my cold, dead hand..."
No one messes with my coffee. No one.
367. Marinka said:
Ok, but if Coco starts looking delicious, don't blame the naysayers!
368. Kgtg said:
I'm delurking to say good luck! I think what you are doing is great and I hope that you're able to distinguish what is making you feel yucky (scientifically speaking). For me, it was dairy. Delicious, delicious cheese. I don't miss it now, but it took some time! Stay strong! Hit up the vegan food blogs for inspiration (especially blog.fatfreevegan.com - that site got me to make the switch to veganism).
369. andrea said:
Good for you. I've been a vegetarian for a longggggggg time, with a brief intermission in my late twenties. And I don't think of myself as a preachy vegetarian. Although sometimes I throw blood at the butcher at my local grocery store...(*)
*This is a joke for those who might have lost their humor.
370. Llama Momma said:
You go, girl.
It never ceases to amaze me how threatened people are by someone doing something different than they do...
371. Sarah said:
I did a 30-day cleanse and it was the worst and best thing that I've ever done. The caffiene headache goes away after 4-6 days (worse for me was the sleepiness...I fell asleep at work REPEATEDLY), and your body will regulate itself eventually. I was sleeping by 8 every night for the first week. I craved sweet like crazy. I had wild mood swings, but by the end of the month I felt amazing. It's really easy too, to moderate your intake of alcohol, sugar, etc. when you're done, but if you don't continue to be a bit careful, you'll end up like me. Back on the caffiene/alcohol/meat/sugar wagon three months later. Good luck!
372. andrea said:
Good for you. I've been a vegetarian for a longggggggg time, with a brief intermission in my late twenties. And I don't think of myself as a preachy vegetarian. Although sometimes I throw blood at the butcher at my local grocery store...(*)
*This is a joke for those who might have lost their humor.
373. erica said:
BACOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
That is all.
374. Susan said:
I can't believe some of these comments. I worked with a vegetarian (not vegan) for almost three years before I even knew it. It was her choice; the rest of her family did not choose this route. When I did finally realize it, she told me the last time she ate "meat" was when she was around five. Except for being a breast cancer survivor, she was a perfectly healthy middle-aged woman who cooked meat for her family. I don't really see the big deal.
I get the same shit because I don't drink and refuse to be the DD. My choice.
I admire you for putting it out there. Good luck.
375. Josh said:
Go for it, dooce! My body has been slowly pushing me in the direction of no animal products (ta-dah! you're now lactose intolerant! ta-dah! beef makes you gassy!), and I may have to listen to the burning in my bosom (indigestion) and do the cleanse myself.
376. lisa mertins said:
what a crack up. aren't you sort of a perfectionist? getting to the point where you can control everything that goes into your mouth might be soothing. or not. have you ever had allergy testing done? it's weird how wheat or soy allergies -ahem- manifest themselves...
377. Todd said:
I did the 21 day cleanse. I felt god-awful for 4 days straight. On the fifth, I jumped out of bed like a Disney cartoon. The sun was shining, the birds were singing, I even broke into song... ok, maybe not THAT good, but still.
The change was amazing. For the first time in memory, I was able to sleep deeply, and wake up easily. I had energy and enthusiasm about mundane tasks. My mood was so good, my friends asked me if I got laid.
Since, I have been more conscientious about what I eat. Cola is a occasional treat, and french fries are off the diet completely. Meats and dairy are way down on the list dietary requirements.
Don't worry about the critics, I still get looks when I tell people that I limit my caffeine intake.
-Todd
378. Jessica said:
I think this cleanse is a great idea, Heather! I can't believe you consume that much coffee and soda daily - no wonder you feel like shit. I cleaned up my diet almost three years ago and it made a huge difference for me. I'm looking forward to reading about how you do with the cleanse, what you're eating, and what you're learning. Good luck!
379. Rachel said:
Heh. It's amazing how much controversy a simple statement like "I don't eat meat" can generate. I can't even begin to describe how horrified/defensive/confrontational - without ANY provocation - my extended social circle became when I went vegan a few years ago. I was all, "Erm, ordering pad thai with tofu is not a personal attack on your dietary habits, yo." Still...madness.
Whatever the end result - veganism, carnivorism, etc. - I hope you get what you want out of this cleanse, Heather. Good luck! Oh, and Isa Chandra Moskowitz's cookbooks are the shit. Just saying.
380. Nicole said:
Heather - Good for you! I've always been a believer in going with your gut and standing by your decisions. Kudos and good luck!
381. kristi said:
Why does everybody have an opinion on your life? Why why why? Good luck on the cleanse, I've heard they're doozies (I'll probably never know personally because I'm entirely too lazy), but supposedly you're good as gold after the first three days. ;)
382. Zeekster said:
On the off chance that someone reads this comment - I'd like to add to the concern over getting enough iron. There are tons of non-meat foods rich in iron, and some people have trouble absorbing iron. Try to consume as much Vit C with your iron. It aids in absorption.
Personally, I could take 1000s of time the daily dose of iron in pill form and still test low when I went to donate blood. Once I started taking Vit C with it, I was good to go.
383. Karen said:
For those vegetarians who love bacon, I have a fantastic recommendation for you:
www.baconsalt.com
It's bacon flavored salt, and it's the best think since sliced....bacon.
384. Ava said:
Aw fuck 'em! You are amazing, other people are not. And that sucks for them.
I don't know why people FREAK OUT about what other people eat. I don't eat meat or eggs unless I know *for sure* that the animals were given the best possible life...and even that is somehow offensive to folks, especially perfect strangers. Imperfect strangers, rather.
385. Heather said:
Week 2 Day 4 of my cleanse... the first week was hell but it you can make it to the second week, it's gravy. Mine is the Swiss Detox Diet by Dr. Thomas Rau (no meat, no sugar, no cow dairy) which eliminates all the toxins/allergens in your diet. Enjoy! I cannot believe the amount of energy I have (and not feel like I want to crash on the couch in the afternoon).
386. Jenn said:
Any steps that people take to better themselves, their diet and their health is good in my book. It's not like your not eating or only drinking carrot juice!
More power to you. And thanks for being honest.
387. Becky said:
LOL, people are so goofy sometimes (meaning the people who leave you negative reactions). We all take ourselves so seriously here in the States.
388. Kim said:
Good for you for standing up to the people who don't understand boundaries and didn't understand that you weren't preaching to them, you were MAKING A PERSONAL CHOICE. Also, good for you for (a) trying something new (I couldn't do it, but I must say, I've always wondered if my omnivorous diet was contributing to how low energy I feel), (b) coming back from a break with the best of intentions for improving your life. I'll love you even if you eliminate the phrase "Fix Mama a hot dog" from your blog (I'll be sad, of course, but I will go on)
389. Lornadoone said:
Look for brown rice pasta - it is delicious and is allowed on the detox - and is something we now use all the time even after doing the detox - my fussy husband even likes it better than white or wheat pasta...
390. Cerise said:
I've never commented here before, but I just wanted to let you know that you inspired my mom and me to start the cleanse; we're on day one! Thank you for that, and good luck yourself!
391. kristi said:
Best of luck, Heather. I gave up soda years ago. No matter how "diet" a drink is, its still full of nasty stuff not made by nature.
The occasional drink (singular) with dinner is so incredibly welcome, as is the once-in-a-blue-moon, big, grilled burger (bacon!), but I have NO DOUBT that this cleanse will make you feel so much healthier.
After the initial wallop to the system, of course.
Here's to hatin' the Haters! Do what you need to for you!
392. Jenn said:
it continues to surprise me how people feel validated in questioning your life, your parenting, your eating habits. I suppose it's because you've been blogging for so long, and so many of us have read here for so long, but I suppose there is a certain feeling of ownership that comes with that. You've let us see so much of your life, and so people feel entitled to it? As though you were actually 'Dooce' instead of 'Heather'. I don't know, but it's mind boggling. My hope would be that if someone had a real concern for your safety (and not their own comfort) they'd take the time to email you and address their concerns as opposed to bashing vegetarians in your comments.
Best of luck to you in your pursuit of a more simple and whole Heather. My google reader anxiously awaits your updates. And good luck with the headache! Caffeine withdrawal is the fucking worst.
393. Heather said:
There is a really great website for gluten-free recipes. Check it out!
http://glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do!!
Heather
394. Anonymous said:
Heather,
It would be nice if you can brief us on the type of meals you are eating, and what choices in general do you have.
Thanks
Rashmi.
395. Beth said:
Wow, I didn't read any of the comments from yesterdays post but I found the post to be really inspiring.
396. gala said:
Your caffeine comment made me laugh. I gave up all caffeine about 4 years ago and had the most MASSIVE headache I'd ever had and it lasted two straight weeks, and then it was fine. Good luck!
You really can do this if you want to, that is, if you can get past the headache.
397. Cloche said:
Good luck on the cleanse! I hope you can continue to laugh at people's odd reactions. I recently did the no-sugar thing and it was hard but eye opening. Just wanted to also let you know that you have a least one reader out there who loves caffeine, alcohol, cursing, AND being vegan :)
398. Manda said:
Said it yesterday and I'll say it again - GO YOU!! I did exactly what you're doing, and if I hadn't gotten pregnant, I'd still be doing it. My body needs meat and gluten while preg...dunno why...
But no caffeine and no alcohol, once you get used to it, super easy to continue. I look back and wonder WHY I put that crap into my body to begin with!?
You WILL go from feeling like shit to feeling better than you ever have, very quickly. I promise. :)
Yay you!
399. Clairy said:
Well, I still think what you're doing is wrong because according to Jessica Simpson's apparel: Real Women Eat Meat.
Yeah, that's right, Dooce, Jessica "Is this Chicken or Tuna Fish?" Simpson wore a t-shirt saying that and gosh darn it she's right!
teehee...sorry I couldn't help myself from making that reference.
For reals, though: rock on!
400. kerry said:
You are my idol man! Watching to see what happens. I decided to hit pilates again which is not wise since I have a wicked chest cough...so now every cough is damn painful. For now I will eat my jube jubes and drink some java and see what happens with you. I am hoping for some great results to give me that little kick in the arse I sooo need right now.
401. rlamfink said:
All this talk about meat and animal products is making me crave a cheese steak sandwich for lunch.
402. Lauren M. in NYC said:
Heather, I'm inspired to do this cleanse. I work out of the house, so I don't watch Oprah. I agree that some of her stuff is good, some kind of wacky. But if she helps one person with each of her shows, then I say good on her. I've been thinking of going veggie for a long time now. I barely eat meat at all, and I absolutely hate preparing it (I make the boyfriend do it or I wear rubber gloves), and I am appalled at how meat is processed in this country and in some others.
I know there are alternatives, and I think that anyone can eat whatever they want and feed their kids and families whatever they want. I think your documentation of this cleanse sounds promising on the hilariousness scale--should be fun to see you go through it. However, I think I will attempt it as well b/c it seems like just the right amount of boost I needed to do something like it.
Good luck!!
403. jennielynn said:
I've never understood why some people are upset by the choices other people make about their own lives! Look the other way, for crying out loud!
You should seriously sell the 32 oz rum-spiked Frappuchino to Starbucks. I would be all over that mutha!
404. Anonymous said:
Good for you Heather! Do what you think your body needs and don't worry about what the internet has to say about it. As a healthy vegetarian I don't push my ideas on anyone, I just won't be hosting this year's 4th of July BBQ!
405. rlamfink said:
All this talk about meat and animal products is making me crave a cheese steak sandwich for lunch.
406. Onna said:
From everything I've gathered, basically you are doing an elimination diet. There is nothing harmful in that. I am currently going through it with my son, to discover hidden allergies. He tested high in three categories. There are a lot of foods out there that are gluten-free and vegan and many ways to get protein, instead of from meat. Best of luck to you and I hope that you find what is right for you to eat.
407. Liz Hunt said:
I'm one of those selfish people that choose not to eat meat because of what it might do to ME, not because of the torture and killing of animals.
There, I said it. I think that's the first time I've admitted that in writing — I'm sure you're thrilled that this post has acted as my confessional.
I hate to be the one to say this (if it hasn't been said already), but if this cleanse becomes a permanent diet change, watch out for some menstrual changes that unavoidably lead to some fucked-up hormones. I can't tell you how many times I've caught myself in a rage because I couldn't poor juice into my glass without it spilling all over the counter top. But then again, that could just be my own tragic hand-eye coordination.
Best of luck to you, and thanks for letting us all live vicariously through you.
408. Leesavee said:
Could you send me that "Meat is Murder. Tasty, tasty murder" shirt for my Vegan brother's next visit? The last time he came to stay for a week, my husband was on the Atkins diet. That was GREAT fun!
409. Jill said:
I have been doing something similar the past month or so (no sugar, alcohol, caffeine, wheat, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, meat, chocolate). Mostly to figure out what I might be allergic to. I'm supposed to now add back in things like wheat, dairy, eggs, soy, corn, one at a time and see what happens, but I'm feeling so good now I almost don't want to. Not having sugar (including artificial sweeteners, honey, maple syrup, etc) and caffeine for an entire month is huge for me, but I found that as long as I'm eating lots of greens, I don't really crave sugar anymore. I've been drinking lots of green smoothies (lots of fruit with a handful or two of baby spinach or kale - tastier than you might think. A Vitamix is a wonderful tool to have). May I recommend two books that have been extremely helpful for me? The Thrive Diet by Brendan Brazier (vegan triathlete) and Whole Life Nutrition Cookbook by Alissa Segersten and Tom Malterre (has 200 gluten free, egg free, dairy free recipes and everything I've tried has been really good!). Good luck! The headaches will go away. You will feel better. Sugar had a hold on me and I can't believe the difference in my mood and general outlook on life now that I'm avoiding it. I think my body likes this way of eating, and why shouldn't it? Everything I'm eating is actually food! What a concept! :-) Good luck to you!
410. Drew said:
Your blog has now replaced Scott Adams in my life. Oh the woe, oh the woe.
Someone asked "what about the bacon? will someone please think of the bacon!?" I agree. You have to think about that wonderful bacon and realize that you can wrap nearly anything in it. Bell peppers? Yes. Asparagus? Of course. Steak? Why, you must! Shrimp? Yes YES YES!!
I like the idea of the clense- you may even be able to focus better and find even more homor in your day to day. It is funny how high levels of aspertain and caffein can really f up your entire creative process. I think this cleanse will actually make you a better writer... if only for the comical effect of you complaining about how shitty you are feeling.
Sempre, teremos muito amor por voce e tudo que escreve.
411. Heather said:
After being an individual who sought after large steaks, big Macs, and creamy milkshakes on a daily basis, I became vegan over six months ago.
I have never felt so incredible in all my life - physically I'm at my greatest, mentally I feel fresh and happy. The fact that I'm living without harming other beings blows my mind, an idea I love and embrace.
Despite this I don't force my lifestyle on others. I gently voice my opinion but I refuse to stick it down others throats. I have my thoughts, they have theirs. I refuse to be a "preachy vegan". :P
412. lou said:
Wow, of all the stuff going on in the world that gets my "jockeys in a twist", what you choose to eat didn't score a point. Clearly I'm just not one of the "deciders".
If, I am what I eat, at present, I'm a whey drink. I'm am therefore, whey cool.
luv your blog, stay well, say hello to the fish,,,,
413. Martha said:
Heather,
...........I LOVE the smell of bacon and coffee (and fresh bread). but more than a little of the above make me ill- so moderation is best, maybe that is what you are aiming for in your cleanse.
How about a ROOM SPRAY of bacon,coffee etc?
414. BitchySAHM said:
I LOVE YOU! Seriously, if I was a lesbian, and you were a lesbian, and we lived in a state allowing our lesbian marriage I would SO propose. Since I'm not, you aren't and we don't, I'll have to be content with your blog. Do you think a breastfeeding mom could do the cleanse? I'm already a vegetarian, but am interested in this cleanse. Although not sure I could handle no caffeine since I have to receive it intravenously just to make it through the day.
415. Kristy - Where's My Damn Answer said:
Hey Heather - My girlfriend Jody and I did end up going to the Ladies Who Launch event last night to Kathy Freston's book signing. I mentioned to her that you were also doing her fast and that you had received negative feed back from your readers. I wrote down your blog site for her so don't be surprised if she pays you a visit :-D
After hearing her talk about the book and concepts last night, I'm really looking forward to reading it. I blogged about our meeting this morning.
416. Katie said:
I am actually going to start a cleanse, myself. I realized I really needed to do it when recently, I went to my Pepsistuff.com account and realized I have about 200 points - enough to get a free MP3 player. You know you have a major caffeine and sugar addiction when you conjure up enough Pepsi points in a couple months time to get free electronic devices. Just not a good thing. Also, recently, I have started having massive, intense, ridiculous, HORRIBLE headaches anytime I don't have my 20 fl. oz. Pepsi in the morning. An entire bottle has 69 grams of sugar and God knows how much caffeine. My body is probably crying inside.
I have recently cut out red meat and have gone solely to free range ground turkey. I make a mean turkey and tofu chili, if you'd like the recipe. You can even take the turkey out and just use tofu. I am a little scared to do the entire cleanse because I fear that I will be a total bitch from hell without my Pepsi. Ever since I quit smoking 8 months ago, Pepsi is my crutch. It is so sad how many crutches we all have - I think a cleanse would really make me look hard at the feelings I am trying to mask by ingesting sugar and caffeine.
Good for you for doing this. I do think you should get rid of the Meat is Tasty Murder tee-shirt, though. :-)
417. Kathicello said:
I never understood why people were so obsessed with what other people put into their bodies (or don't). My 10 years as a vegetarian were spent explaining to my grandma yes, I do see that they have baked potatoes on the menu, thank you. Although I'm not a vegetarian anymore, my husband and my kids are. God forbid we raise our kids with our own values! It's crazy, the questions people ask us about our kids' diets. Do they not look strong and healthy? Is the fact that they're both an entire head taller than their classmates not enough evidence that their diet is nutritionally sound? Good for you, and I hope you feel better at the end of this!
418. Emily said:
I can't believe people really get into your life that much. Yours is a personal decision and for people to, well, care that much...it's a little weird. I enjoy your writing and even if I disagree with something you've written, I let it go.
However, good for you on this decision. I wish you the best of luck on this.
419. hopefulloser said:
Omg, where you wrote "add gluten back in my diet" I was reading "glutton". And I was like "that's cool, I would too". figures.
420. Melanie said:
As both a Registered Dietitian *and* a Vegan for four and a half years - more power to you!! When I went vegan, straight from omnivore, so many things improved - from skin to digestive system. And I still feel great. I still partake in caffeine (but only 1 cup/day), still drink alcohol (not daily, but regularly) and never tried the gluten free (but am considering it) and the sugar intake is minimal. SO HEY! Don't let the bastards get you down!! Keep up the awesome work and do what is right for your body!! If you need any nutritional advice, like I said, I'm a licensed professional - hit me up!
And yes, vegans eat really really really good food, there's tons of food blogs with awesome recipes and photos that will make you drool. Have fun with it! And share it with your family!!
421. Sprite's Keeper said:
Seriously, girl, what did Florida DO to you?
Interested to see where this goes. Your writing will always be edgy, even if you are clutching a teddy bear in one hand and a rosary in the other.
(By the way, I live in Florida, and the beach scenes are never that nice. Are you sure you didn't end up in California by mistake?)
422. Liesl said:
Hey, if your cleanse goes well can I have your espresso machine?
423. that girl said:
Just the thought of all the toxins coming out of my body makes me want to hole-up w/ a vodka IV and a big gulp filled w/ sugar-coffee..
But when I get past that mental picture I wonder how I would feel afterwards - what would it be like? More energy? More endorphins being released? Oh, but the horror of the process. Can't they find a way to knock you out and de-toxify you?
You have my respect, girl, you really do. Good luck.
424. Christy said:
I'm always amazed at the shit you seem to get for what you write about...I just don't get it, frankly. I think we could all benefit from being more conscious about what we ingest (and many other things, as well.) Rock on. I hope w/in the next few days you'll be over the headache hump.
425. DesignGirl said:
M-O-R-O-N-S.
What I've FINALLY discovered is that not every diet works for every person. Yeah, seems really obvious, but for me, my moment of enlightenment came when I started a diet completely devoid of CARBS. Being a diabetic, I had to come to the realization through personal experience that carbs are basically a poison to my system. The first 2 weeks were brutal, but I plowed though them. My carb cravings are so minimal, I'm amazed. And I'm going on ONE YEAR like this. I am no longer insulin-dependent :o), and I've lost almost 60 pounds! I feel better than I did in college, (20 years ago).
For you, Heather, this cleanse may be your "magic bullet" to feeling better and enjoying better health, and all I can say is ... "STICK WITH IT!" Give it time to work. After the 21 days, you will know if it's right for your or not.
Meanwhile, grab a bowl of veggies and enjoy reading all these crazy comments. I'll be sitting here doing the same with a big plate of B-A-C-O-N!!!
Good luck! I'm crossing my fingers you'll get to feeling better!
426. Alicia said:
I can't believe you get pummeled for writing that you want to do something good for yourself. Good for you for continuing on! I did a cleansing several years ago, although not quite as strict, or as long, but I could feel the difference. Good luck with yours.
427. Amy said:
Good lord do I ever feel lucky that I can eat/drink most anything and still feel great. Viva la cast iron constitution.
That being said, all ya'll can eat what you want as long as you don't judge me for going to Steak n Shake. Oh, or judge me for making my kid Hamburger Helper. He loves it. I blame daycare.
428. Aimee said:
I say do whatever makes you happy and screw everyone that disagrees. I mean, seriously, we are readers. Who are we to decide what you do with your life. It sounds like a lot of your readers believe you are a part of their own choose your own adventure book. (Do you remember those???) Anyway, do your thing it's your life!
429. Charles R. Kaiser said:
Heather,
If you do become a vegetarian, that's your choice, but I will lose all respect for you if following that, these words ever appear on your blog: "How come I can't find a vegetarian *insert item name here* that tastes like meat?"
That is all
430. Karyn said:
Heather, I have been reading and recommending Dooce forever, and this is my first comment (how exciting!). First: good for you. I have been a vegetarian for--holy crap--18 years now, and the omnivores have been WAY more confrontational with me about my diet choices than I would ever even CONSIDER being with them. I think we all have to make the choices that are right for us, and other people can take their unwelcome input and suck it. Second: you have been a very impressively scary caffeine hound. How do you still have a stomach? Whoa. And third: the other facets of my life that those in the "other" camp have a way harder time with than I have with theirs include my childfree status (all my babies have four legs--multiple dogs rule!) and my atheism. Yeah, Christians love it when you think God is just pretend.
431. Cindy said:
OK, as commenter # 412, this probably doesn't matter, but I applaud your cleansing diet. Twenty-one days is serious cleansing.
As far as becoming vegetarian goes, I just don't see the big deal. So what if you don't eat meat. We have a non-veg friend couple and a vegetarian friend couple and the non-veg couple always makes a big deal about where we're all going to eat when ever we all get together. I see it as a chance to explore new restaurants like the Ethiopian place or the new Moroccan place.
Ignore those crazies. They'll get over it and just find something else to freak out about.
432. Sari said:
Sounds like a lot of people had the same thought as me: But what about Bacon? Having been vegetarian for 5 years, it was the only thing I missed - soy bacon did substitute alright but man the real thing is just so darn delicious.
Enjoy the cleanse - hope it cleans out all of those toxins and gets you set on the right path.
434. Maria said:
359. Stacy said:
I went vegan for 4 months and in the beginning had mad diarrhea for a week and nasty gas for about a month. But I felt great after that! Luckily I work from home, so I could run to the bathroom every hour. Is that too much information?
The biggest setback for me was eating dinner over other people's houses. I felt like I was putting them out having to request special dishes, so I would bring a vegan side dish and fill up at home before going to their house.
And I definitely don't judge anyone for their food choices. We all have our own personal journey - there is no right or wrong.
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Thanks for your post, Stacy. I'm an omnivore and I don't have a problem with anyone who's vegetarian or vegan. The only difficulty I've run into with vegans is the one you mention. We have vegan houseguests every year and there is so little in our house that they will eat. We end up making special (and expensive) trips to whole foods to buy suitable food. Also, although there are more vegan restaurants popping up, it's still not that easy to find restaurants that serve meat and vegan food (I will say that Indian restaurants are a god send when dining with vegan friends). Finally, another thing that has crossed my mind is how difficult it would be to travel for a vegan. I'm sure Western Europe would be no different than the U.S., but anywhere off the beaten path (with some notable exceptions) would be really difficult for a vegan.
435. Kym said:
I think you should do whatever the hell you want with you body. If this cleanse makes you feel better than good for you! I do have to add that I saw the same Oprah show with this woman on it, and I would be a lot more interested in her program and what she was saying about veganism if it weren't so obvious she has had her forehead botoxed. Just my thoughts.
Go for it, and keep us updated on how you feel and what this does for you!
436. Stephanie said:
I think it rocks and I think it's inspiring. I will probably do what you are doing after I hear your experiences.
437. Katy said:
Good for you Heather! Don't listen to all of the pissy meat eaters who feel like their liberties are begin stripped whenever someone decides to abstain from meat.
All of you meateaters, calm down, have a roast beef sandwich and a smile and shut the fuck up.
I also want to add that I am not a vegan or a vegetarian, but I play one at dinner time, sometimes. Don't only think about your health and the abysmal treatment animals receive in corporately run slaughter houses, but also the environmental footprint left behind from a meat heavy culture. It's killing the planet. If you keep eating meat and dairy, buy locally and organically, if you can afford it.
The Skinny Bitch ladies have a cook book Skinny Bitch in The Kitsch, that has some very good recipes in it.
Also, *shameless self promoting plug* if you ever read my blog, Big Booty Judy, you will know that I worship at the altar of (http://www.followyourheart.com/vegenaise.htm)Follow Your Heart Products and will challenge anyone to say that Vegenaise doesn't taste like the real stuff.
Is Jon doing the cleanse? I think he has a serious sinus issue (y'all get more sinus infections than teenagers get acne!), that needs to be addressed, but cutting dairy and gluten out would probably help.
My favorite sandwich:
First you have to make the patties (It's easy).
Ingredients:
2 cups lentils,cooked
1 cup mushrooms, portabella smoked
1 cup bulgur
2 cloves garlic roasted
1 cup bread crumbs
1 tablespoon worcestershire sauce
2 tablespoons walnut oil
1/4 teaspoon tarragon
Directions:
In a large mixing bowl, mash lentils until smooth.
Add all other ingredients and mix until thoroughly combined.
Refrigerate for at least 2 hours. Form into burgers.
Brush the burgers with olive oil and grill for 6 minutes on each
side or until done.
Serve hot with your favorite condiments.
Or, I like Amy's Brands of Veggie Burger
Top with avocado, tomato, FOLLLOW YOUR HEART JACK CHEESE, and grilled red onions. Mix some sriracha and vegenaise and slap it all on a gluten free tortilla.
YUM!
Good luck!
I am planing on doing the cleanse in August, I have some heavy drinking I want to do in July.
438. carpot said:
I don't think I have the willpower to do a cleanse...but ya never know. I hope you feel like a different woman!
Edamame is allowed if you're a vegan, so you'll do fine. ;)
439. L in IL said:
I became a vegetarian about 14 years ago and often receive aggressive comments about it. I rarely mention that I'm a vegetarian unless I have to, usually at a restaurant. This only got worse after moving from the west coast to the midwest!
It's just unbelievable that anyone would even comment on what I eat since I don't comment on what they are eating! But the degree of defensiveness is certainly telling.
Good luck with your new diet. I hope it makes you feel better!
440. rebecca said:
Heather,
I've lurked on your website for quite some time without posting. I just wanted to recommend, if you haven't already read him, Michael Pollan. His book, The Omnivore's Dilemma has a wonderful take on diet that sounds pretty much in keeping with the questions you're asking right now. His recent book, In Defense of Food, is also pretty good. There's a special section in the Omnivore's Dilemma about veganism that I particularly enjoyed because I think it's a pretty balanced look at the actual movement.
That being said, good luck with your cleanse. I hope it makes you feel better. :)
-Rebecca
441. Kelly said:
Thanks for sharing both the impetus for the cleanse and your progress as you move through it. I am contemplating something similiar, and have been on the brink of trying something for a few weeks. I see it as a stepping stone to a life change as well, not just for better health, although that is an added benefit. Please keep sharing despite the negative comments!
442. Anonymous said:
So this doesn't involve a colon cleansing?
443. Kristine said:
If you were going on a pot, Cheetos, and vodka diet, I might be concerned.
444. Rebecca said:
And maybe before I go recommending things, I should actually, you know, READ other peoples' comments to see if they haven't already recommended the same thing. :)
445. Juls said:
I accidently cleared my unread posts on Google Reader yesterday and missed this whole thing. I think that you have set everyone straight. Unless I misread this post, I guess congratulations are in order. IF you do end up posting about play dates and which breast pump was easiest on the nipples, I will still be a dedicated reader.
446. Courtney Sue said:
Going gluten-free can be very difficult at first. My father was diagnosed with Celiac disease a few years ago, and I struggled with him to find things he could eat. There is gluten in SOOOO many things now, it's so tricky! For example, something listed with "food starch" in the ingredients could have wheat in it. Also, oats are off-limits unless they are certified GF. (I was temporarly put on a GF diet for health reasons, but my tests came back negative for celiac disease, so I ate a pizza.)
I would recommend celiac.org for info about what is gluten-free. I would also recommend you make sure you're getting enough fiber, as some people on GF diets don't eat enough veggies and safe grains to get adequate amounts. Packaged GF food tends to be highly processed.
Also, as a former vegan, current flexitarian, and former waitress living in Iowa (where the Pork council is), I can tell you that people get more irate about food than anything else. I've seen people become enraged over a dinner that didn't meet their approval. I've been harassed over not eating the chicken at work functions. I finally broke down and added a little poultry to my diet. It's tough!
447. Caidid said:
I think the interesting thing about this cleanse is that it actually sounds pretty reasonable. It's not one of those consume-nothing-but-honey-water-and-herbs-for-three-days things. It asks you to give up just enough to make you think about what you are putting in your body, not a bad thing. Also, as a vegetarian of nine years, I have always felt and continue to feel good about my decision on that score, but I have never understood why people get so righteous about their own vegetarianism or omnivorousness. Diet is a personal decision. You'll never convince someone that yours is right by judging theirs. Calm discussion and a healthy example work much better. Best of luck with the cleanse, and thank you for writing about it. Nothing against Oprah, but I'd rather read your reactions to it.
448. Eddeaux said:
I did this detox and like I may have said yesterday, at first it's pretty easy, but a lifetime without the delicious protein of beef? I don't think so. Not to mention Sushi in all it's wonderful varieties.
As the shirts say on the back of those Rudy's Barbecue t-shirts, "I did not climb my way to the top of the food chain to eat vegetables."
I think all cows and chicken should be tattooed with the words, "Eat Me!" and I will oblige them.
449. Jennifer said:
A 32 oz. Frappucino spiked with rum??? I busted up laughing at that. my dogs (1 of which I believe must be Coco's long lost twin) both looked up and cocked their heads in that trying to understand way....
I'm new to your site, I think I googled something Aussie related and one of your posts about Coco showed up... & now I'm totally hooked. Your photography is to die for - I WANT THAT CAMERA!! Good luck with the cleanse - my in-laws and husband have done them, I am too picky. :-)
450. MetroDad said:
Just because you've given up EATING bacon doesn't mean you have to keep it out of your life altogether!
http://tinyurl.com/2whaoa
451. Jess said:
For reasons I don't really remember, I gave up eating meat at the age of 10 (luckily my parents were very supportive). It's been seventeen years and I am still a vegetarian. I completely believe it's a personal choice and that anyone (veggie or otherwise) who gives another person crap about eating or not eating meat needs to shove it. Hard.
When I was younger I received so many rude comments from my friend's parents who were so afraid I would turn their kids into an evil vegetarian. Not that I was trying, or that it even occurred to me to try. It's amazing how defensive this topic makes people feel.
Good luck with your diet and what ever food choices you end up making afterward!
452. inga said:
Best of luck to you on your journey. I didn't read the comments in the previous post yet, but I can only imagine what judgmental things were said (lol). It's your life, and if this is what you choose to do, then dammit, why must people give their unsolicited opinion about it? Hmph.
I've never heard of a 21 day cleanse though (damn, that's a long ass time) - I've only heard of a 10 day. Either way, I wish you luck!! :-)
453. Anonymous said:
you know, i'm actually interested in what your diet looked like vs. what you're eating now. you know? i mean it's still non of my business, but i like to know what people eat. i was a vegan for 8 years and a vegetarian for 10 yrs. i started eating fish a few years ago and now occasionally eat chicken, but only if it's organic and antibiotics free. but i'm thinking of going back to no meat at all. vegan? not sure yet. i've started to like cheese so much.
good luck!
454. Femtastic said:
I'm not reading yesterdays comments, or todays, and I have no "shock and awe" responses, I have just a request:
Would you please include, regularly, just what the heck you ARE eating? Because I'm someone who is aflicted with the monicker "finicky eater" (because I am one, not because someone snootier than me was throwing around monickers) and so I just don't think I could do such a diet because it would leave me with all of about 4 things that I actually like to eat. So I'm hoping if you include details about your meals you might supply me with some ideas I'd never think of.
And from one person who is caffeine's bitch to another I wish you good luck, my friend!!
455. Stacy said:
Let me start by saying that I'm glad you're back. Your guests were nice, but their writing style is certainly nothing like yours. Please don't change for the sake of your audience.
Personally I don't believe in "cleansing" diets. To me if you want to cleanse yourself of something, you make lifestyle changes to rid yourself of whatever it is that is bothering you. The fact that Oprah wrote a book doesn't mean squat as she often doesn't live by the rules that she preaches about. Meh! To put it bluntly I don't like her or her spawn AKA Dr.Phil and I'll leave it at that.
If you feel that these lifestyle changes are for the better, I say go for it, just be careful and be smart about it. The is nothing wrong with a vegetarian diet as long as you don't hurt yourself in the process. If you start to feel like crap on a regular basis, it will be time to look into your diet and tweak it accordingly.
I can say for fact that once you get yourself off of the sugar, white flour and possibly caffiene ( I don't remember if you said you were going to cut that or not) you will feel alot better. It will take some time and you'll possibly have some monster sized headaches or migraines to deal with, but once you get past that, your energy levels will come up.
Good luck and keep us posted. For the people that don't like what you're doing, there is always that little X on the upper right-hand corner of their screen....
456. Andra said:
Wow, so many of you hold bacon so dearly.
I've had an aversion of it and all other forms of pork since the womb. I can't even be in the room when it's being cooked.
That being said, I eat fish nearly every day, and I only like about 7 veggies in the whole world, but I eat them all the time and with gusto. Most fruits are welcome.
Am I just a freak? Any other omnis hate bacon too? Tell me I'm not alone!
458. Krista said:
Wow. The internet is weird. I'm on day 10. It isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but I am really looking forward to reintroducing some foods, Though, it's nice knowing I don't have to eat gluten or meat or dairy everyday. I totally get your motivation for doing this too. Good luck.
459. joanne said:
Good luck with the Gluten Free! I do it because I have to for Celiac Disease and it is a lot harder than one might think it is. Gluten Free AND vegetarian is even harder because a lot of times if you (the plural you, not you Heather Armstrong specific) are using fake meat products, they bind it with gluten. Gluten Free Girl's website has a lot of recipes that would probably fulfill much of your dietary restrictions. http://glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/
Here in Seattle, I'm lucky, we have a lot of options available. I can go down the block from my apartment and get a gluten free vegan pizza if I were so inclined. I suspect your options in Utah aren't as available.
460. Di said:
People are rude/selfish/over opinionated a'holes, aren't they!?
Just keep up with the Chuck and CoCo pics, and I'll follow you whether or not you eat Bessie or Clucky.
461. heyMamas.com said:
Heather,
Read Skinny Bitch by Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin and you will never ever think the same way about food or meat again.
Keep going with what you are doing. What you are feeling is normal and you will come out the other side much better off. I am a mother of two little girls and I am extremely health conscious. I still enjoy myself and drink and all that but I am more aware after reading Skinny Bitch. I stopped dinking caffeine when I had days where I had to have it to keep going. Not a good feeling. I make conscious choices about what I put into my body at every meal. You need to think of this as not only becoming more healthy now but taking a preventative stance and doing this for your future.
Best of luck!
462. Korina said:
So Heather, does this mean you won't be getting one of those "Real Girls Eat Meat" tees, a la Jessica Simpson?
Ha, all jokes aside, I find it awesome that you are doing this cleanse. It shouldn't be revolutionary that a person is thinking about what she eats and how it impacts her (and others, and the world), but such is American culture.
I did a similar cleanse, and though I eat meat now *occasionally* I usually prefer the vegan option. Veganaise, Morningstar breakfast "sausages," and "chik" nuggets (Leta might like them, they look just like the real thing, taste like it too) are some of my fave foods. Hell, even Morningstar corn dogs are excellent and better than the real thing.
Weird as it seems, LA is a great place to live for wonderful vegan food. Do you have Whole Foods or Trader Joe's in Utah?
463. PrincessMombi said:
I got the same reaction when I went on my 30 day raw vegan diet. I find it astounding that anyone cares that much about what anyone else puts in their mouth (well, except for dead babies or fists full of lard...)
And why does everyone take pot shots at trying to be healthy? Suddenly everyone's an amateur nutritionist, even though they themselves have no idea if they have enough protein (calcium, iron, etc.) in their own diets.
Astounding... just astounding. Good for you for trying something new, testing your will, and wanting something better for your body.
464. reiki girl said:
Good for you! I'm a firm believer of cleansing. People who think it's bad aren't educated on the benefits and positive outcomes of such a task. Hasn't anyone been reading about how toxic our world is and what pesticides and processed foods do our bodies these days?
You will feel like a new person and be out of that caffeine and alcohol "fog" before you know it...it's cathartic.
465. Old person said:
I have only recently started reading your blog. I don't even really get blogs--they are not something my age group does in great numbers. However, since I read the article about you in the WSJ, I have been following your adventures.
I don't know if the cleasing will do anything for you, but maybe the effort will be psychologically satisfying, if not physically. You seem to have so much stress and that is not fun. I am old enough to be your mother, but I so remember those early childhood years with my two (now 30 and 25) and what a toll it takes in every way. Your husband seems like a wonderful person so lucky you for his support. All I can say is that I think you are a talented and gifted writer whose often naughty spin on life just cracks me up. I have read a bit of your archives and see that you have been through a lot in your life. Thanks for the enjoyment you have given me in the last few months. Good luck in your quest for that place you so want to be.
466. Casey said:
Alright fine! You can do this cleanse and think about becoming a vegan, but nothing else! I will cut you some slack this time because you seem pretty on edge from the lack of caffeine, but from this point forward you must remain exactly the same--forever. I mean it. Don't be all, "I think I'm going to try out a new church" or "I went to a yoga class today" or "I bought a hybrid" or "John McCain made a good point today" or any of that nonsense. I have decided that you are fine just the way you are and when this silly cleanse/vegetarianism stuff blows over, you'll return to normal and I can retreat back into my comfort zone where times and people never change. And when that happens, I expect an apology.
469. Manda said:
Well I hope that you stick to the diet. If it doesn't work out, so what, at least you can say you tried. All I know is that bacon will miss you. Bacon will miss you so much.
470. Meg said:
*Swivels head back in forth while wagging finger*
Girrrrl, don't you evah explain yo'self to nobody.
(Seriously! You know why you're embarking on this journey and don't have to explain yourself. Good luck!)
471. skeri said:
When I was 12 I decided not to eat red meat anymore. I stuck with it for 6 years and people gave me a hard time about it the entire time. At the time, I figured they thought I was just a kid and that it seemed weird for me to make such a big change on my own and for my own reasons and they just couldn't understand that. But now I know that people are just nosy, pushy, ignorant know-it-alls (irony?) with no sense of boundaries. It's sad, really.
Best of luck with the cleanse, I'm looking forward to seeing how it works for you! And I really hope the headache goes away shortly, there's nothing worse than a terrible headache :/
472. Rochelle said:
I searched for the word "John" rather than reading all these comments, because I'm curious what your husband thinks. But alas, only a mention of the R candidate. Will your John go along on this diet with you? Or eat a philly cheese-steak and drink port in front of you? Or something in between? Living alone it seems would be easier to make this sort of change, but if John wants to eat meat will he have to go out?
PS I ate RAW for three - four months, lost weight, felt great, til I got sick and other circumstances lead me back to my old eating habits. Raw is like vegan except harder. Meals take hours, sometimes days, to prep. But they taste awesome. Check out http://www.livingnutrition.com/interview.html
473. Talon said:
*chuckles* Of course people got all riled up. Yeah, it's a big whiney-pot of if you don't eat meat...then what about meeeeee???
Still...um...I forget.
Anyway...a big part of being healthy is listening to your body. And shutting up the craving part is a big deal. I personally can't DO something like that, not because of my willpower or lack of desire, but because of my stupid disease. (I have ulcerative colitis, an auto-immune disease. Basically my immune system is stupid and DEAF and it thinks my colon is a nasty invader come to slay us all. It is...a very painful disease actually and I currently have no coverage, so I'm...in alot of pain...all the time.)
I have a close friend and fuckbuddy whose whole family is veggie, but she grew up eating TONS of meat. And she's currently unhappy with her weight, so she's working the weight watchers thing...and it's funny to listen to our conversations. I can't eat easily or well right now, and even though I'm about 80 lbs over weight (something that I have no control over due to my disease fucking my metabolism permanently due to literal periods of malnutrition and starvation) I have to go for things that are full calorie, full fat type stuff. While she, is not overweight at all, but her pants aren't fitting right, and she worked really hard to get where she was, and she's whining about how she's hungry, and buying weight watchers stuff and watching her points...okay, so it's funny to us!!
Anyway...my long point is...fuck everyone else. The whole point of LIFE is that you do what is right for YOU. 21 day cleanse? Even if I was healthy it has the potential to send me into a flare. Veggie diet? No can do...my body does not take kindly to plant fibers. But I love hearing about other people...otherwise why would I spend so much time reading blogs??
*grins*
We need to hear ALL about this...so spare no details!!!
474. M@ said:
And oddly, the nightly news is not filled with daily stories of YET ANOTHER Vegitarian dropping dead from starvation.
475. Anonymous said:
I am a total cynic with a dessicated black little heart. That makes me a wry, sarcastic writer. But. I have never met a dog whose belly I didn't yearn to scratch. In fact, it turns out that, though humans make me cranky, I love animals. And I love my kid, too.
I'm pretty sure I can become vegan (which I've been considering) and still be the bitch everyone needs and expects me to be. Which means it shouldn't surprise you people that Heather can become a mommy and a humantitarian and retain her edge. I'm not calling Heather a bitch, btw. Well, only in the nicest possible way.
476. Michelle said:
I recently gave up coffee too (for a different reason), and OH MY GOD! Who knew? The Pain!
best of luck with the clense.
477. happy hippie said:
Hi Heather,
Stumbled across your blog and love your dialogue. Don't worry about what others think. it's your body and you do what you think is right and healthy. vegan or not, i'm posting a blog of a lady who's husband was diagnosed with cancer very young and they completely changed their diet to vegan and he is now cancer free. he did chemo and treatments as well, but what you put in your body does affect you. hope you check it out. keep speaking your mind lady.
http://dinnersready.blogspot.com/
478. quantum indifference said:
I was a vegetarian for 10 years and wasn't any healthier than I am now because I didn't make whole foods the primary part of my diet. I was never able to go vegan because the lure of cheese was too great.
However, I'm now toying with making another attempt and I'd love to hear more about what you are actually eating.
Those who have read Quantum Wellness can you tell me if there are any good recipes in it? I really don't need another book about why veganism is a better choice; I'm already sold on that. I'd rather have something more practical that I can use in my daily life
479. Jannie said:
If you did become a vegan what would be your reason(s) for doing so? And would you still wear leather?
480. Lisa said:
It's funny how your personal choices in life can make people so upset. I think it says more about them than it says about you.
481. Helena said:
I've been vegetarian for more than twenty years and I would SO wear that T-shirt to a vegan restaurant.
My boyfriend has one that says "Omnivores have more fun". Whatever.
482. Koobs said:
I cleanse myself of toxins every morning. Then I flush.
side note: Did you know that the counties of Boone and Hamilton are right next to each other in the state of Indiana?
483. Courtney said:
Dooce: please keep blogging about your cleanse. Me, I'm a vegan, so's my husband (not our cats; they'll wear your Tasty Murder shirt, or more likely throw up hairballs on it, but that's the next best thing, right?). We spend a lot of time trying to convince people that we're not big (ok, tiny), scary, vegangelists. We don't really care what anyone else eats (we just judge them at home, in private, like we do with everyone anyway :P). The more people blog about vegetarianism in a non-threatening way, the easier it is for vegetarians to go out to eat with people and not get nitpicked to death over the salad course.
So thanks for whatever you'll have to say in your wonderful, wacky way. And happy cleansing!
484. Libby said:
It never ceases to amaze me the things people feel free to judge concerning another person's life and personal choices! I understand that you have a blog and you are sharing your choices with the bloggy-world, but seriously! Why would anyone have a problem with you deciding to live a healthier lifestyle for 21 days. 21 days. That's not even a month people!
By the way, I did a cleanse too. It was called the UltraSimple diet. Maybe you've heard of it. I don't know much about the cleanse you're doing, but the UltraSimple diet was rather intense. One thing that did end up being rather tasty were tofu, soy milk and fruit smoothies. Give em a try!
And I did feel a lot better after I did it (and it was only 7 days!). The book also has some really good information on re-introducing possible toxins back into your diet (like dairy and wheat). It might be worth checking out if you decide not to become a permanent vegan.
Good luck!
485. karen said:
Good for you, Heather. What's wrong with trying something that might improve your health and well being? People need to just shut up!
As for the meat thing: I have not intentionally had an ounce of red meat since I was 26. (I ate rabbit pate on a cracker by accident a few years back, and almost puked when I realized it!) I do eat some chicken now, but am very on and off with it. I feel bad eating the flesh of a creature that was raised and killed just for my plate of food, ya know? Am I idealistic? Yes! Am I a hypoctite wearing leather shoes today? Yes! Are there animal products hiding in the other foods I eat? Probably! But, to eat the flesh of an animal that I would consider as a pet seems wrong to me, for me. Other people can do whatever they want, and I never judge.
Live the life you want, and tell everybody else to eff off.
Get healthy in the way you feel is right for you.
486. victoria said:
When I was in college and told people I was becoming a vegetarian for ethical reasons, I suddenly seemed to be surrounded by people who needed to tell me how wrong I was, and didn't I understand human rights is more important than animal rights, and was I some sort of cow-worshipping Hindu? because that would be really stoooopid, and what about THE PLANTS, huh? had it occurred to me that PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS TOO? etc. Vegetarianism was just my attempt to live a little less violently, yet it seemed to provoke violent responses in everyone I knew at that time. In the 24 years since then, I've learned to be pretty quiet about being a vegetarian.
487. Stella said:
You go girl!!
I think that you are correct that us meat-eaters are always a little critical of people who choose to make a change in their diet and get a little bit defensive. Whatever Becky! I have read a lot about being a vegan and have no interest at this point in my life to move in that direction but I respect all of those people, including you, for taking control of your wellbeing and giving it a try. I look forward to the postings on your journey and who knows, maybe I will actually learn something. Ha.
Have a great day!
488. Jocelyn said:
It's funny that you posted this today; someone left me a comment suggesting I should come check it out, as I just posted a similar line of thought about how frequently intolerant people are of anyone who does things differently than they do. I am not sure why it is that we think of one person's eating choice as a comment on our own, but it happens all too often! I hope that the caffeine-withdrawal headache goes away for good very soon...
489. Erin said:
As long as you don't tell me NOT to eat meat, I won't tell you TO eat meat. :)
Dude, why do people think they can tell other people what to do?? What do you want to bet that all of the people who are telling you how you HAVE to live your life are the same people who get all "who the hell are they to tell me how to live?" when the same thing happens to them?
490. Valerie said:
Goodness, Heather, how strange people are. Now I'm feeling weird for having no opinion about what you eat. I just like your blog.
491. Alyssa said:
Giving up meat is the best thing I ever did. You should read the book Skinny Bitch-it's incredible! It's a book about living a vegan lifestyle. It makes not eating meat and processed food really eays because it talks about all of the DISGUSTING REVOLTING stuff they put into it.Check out their website- http://skinnybitch.net/
492. betty said:
My first thought about that diet was: you'd have to give up CHOCOLATE for 21 days. I didn't even think about any of the other stuff.
493. Dana said:
Heather, your website is amazing and I love it, and Leta, and Chuck. I'm still thinking about Coco. I'm not sure about her.
Are you drinking Yogi Peach Detox Tea during these 21 days? Its amazing and delicious and makes me feel better every time I drink it.
About the no meat/vegan thing - all I know is that I've read many things that demonstrated to me that in the long run it is healthier to have a bit of meat in your diet, even if it is only once a week or so. Just puttin' that out there...
494. Anonymous said:
I think this is great, and am tempted to try it myself. It would be interesting to hear what you are eating day to day, as coming up with meal ideas is keeping me from just doing this. Oprah has a personal chef helping her through it so what she ate is not really not an option for me.
495. LWagz said:
I knew you'd get all kinds of "fun" email from your post - makes for good material for your posts later.
But seriously, how closed-minded or mentally challenged are people to think that 1) what you do with your body actually effects their lives to the point that it is acceptable to be mean to you and 2)that becoming a vegetarian will somehow suck your incredible writing skills out of you?
You're job in this life is to take of yourself and those you love and if by chance we are blessed with your talents, then we can just count ourselves as lucky.
496. RJ said:
I to watched the Oprah special and got the same desire to cleanse as you....until my 5 month old decided that sleeping the night is soooooo last month.......bring on the espresso beans (and a touch of rum)!
497. eouio said:
Yes, 'that bizzare woman'.
Of course, I only know of your family what I've read here, but your daughter sounds to be very sincere, honest, and anxious to help. Having followed your blog for a bit it is obvious that it is not by accident, but rather thoughtful parenting.
I wish you and your husband every opportunity you desire to further expand and exercise your parental influence. Any child of yours would be a welcome friend to mine.
Given the current state of the typical american family, I think we could all use a bit more 'bizarre'.
Whatever changes you make or don't make, I think the sincerity of the effort is of the greatest importance.
498. Agustin said:
I love that T-Shirt. I gave it to my wife for no reason other than it reminded me of her obsession with rare steak.
499. Maia said:
Wait -- you mean you haven't been a vegetarian this whole time? I have been reading the blog of a MEAT-EATER? And ENJOYING IT? But -- but -- that lifestyle is different than mine! Had I but known, I could have spent lo these many years leaving judgmental comments about your eating habits! Now this opportunity is gone. GONE, I tell you! So many opportunities for righteous dietary indignation missed!
/sarcasm
I wonder if people would react the same way if you said you were giving up something that wasn't meat -- like sex, maybe, or wearing the color blue, or washing behind your ears. Whether or not you have sex or wear blue or have dirty filthy ears doesn't impact your readers any more or less than whether or not you eat meat... and yet somehow I don't see people getting quite as worked up over those other things. The herbivores, we are always taking the heat. I don't even use the word "vegetarian" to describe myself anymore... if I have to, I'll say I don't eat meat. Using the v-word (or the OTHER, WORSER v-word) is just an invitation for people to comment and criticize. I wouldn't ask a stranger questions about their birth control method at the dinner table, and I don't try to convert unwilling people to my religion. Why, then, is it open season on anyone's eating habits?
500. Margaret said:
I don't ever comment on your site, but my older daughter(almost 22) is a vegan and very committed to this lifestyle. She has put up with all sorts of criticism, mockery and prejudice--over a personal choice that hurts no one. I don't understand why so many people are threatened by it, as you have discovered. I tell people who make remarks about it that she's healthy, happy (athough a bit too thin for my liking) and that doctors call veganism the anti-cancer diet. My good friend's husband who has terminal prostate cancer is now eating vegan, at the urging of his oncologist.
501. Becky said:
You know what fits into the cleanse diet... all natural corn chips with fresh guacamole and a non-alcoholic fresh crushed lime/orange/lemon and sparkling water drink. AHHHH it just feels like summer.
502. bad penguin said:
I was impressed about your cleanse! I'm not sure that I could give up all of those things at once. I am a vegetarian though, and I do think that has made me (and just me) healthier.
Good luck, and I hope this is a wonderful first step for you on your new path.
503. girlplease said:
I hear you about going vegetarian (not vegan though. Me loves milk products too much).
I never was a huge meat fan (well unless it was attached to Russell Crowe--http://www.instantrimshot.com/) but now that I'm preggo (and yes it's a medical term) I'm 99% cured from meat.
Now my husband is Mr. Meat as in never eats a veggie or a fruit (esp. fruit) unless I sedate and IV him some pureed carrots. Looks like that insurance benefit will kick in by the time he's 40 at the rate he's going.
504. Amanda said:
I was so excited when I heard that Oprah was going vegan, even if only for 21 days...then I read that you were doing it too! Amazing! I've been vegan (oooh scary word, I hardly use it) for 6 years and everyone is always asking "what do you eat?!?!" Well, plenty of things and I love it and I feel fantastic, so there. We will eventually take over the world, especially with environmental concerns being so prevalent...veganism is VERY eco-friendly. Look it up.
505. TG said:
I've done a couple of these and they were AWESOME.
I started the first one becasue of a suspected wheat allergy and I can't belive how good I felt. After the second I felt so good I was able to have moderate amounts of wheat with no reaction.
I've spent the last four years pregnant or breastfeeding. As soon as my little one is weaned, I'll be starting a de-tox.
Good luck! The first two weeks are the worst.
506. James | Double Danger said:
VEGAN! LIBERAL! haha
Next you will be chained to a tree in front of a dozer chanting save the monkey bears... or something.
I hear it is a slippery slope... a tasty, tasty slippery slope.
;)
507. Worst Cook Ever said:
I commend you, though I doubt I could last very long without caffeine and red wine. I think I would need to be pinned to the floor in a cave. I've never had the right self-discipline for diets -- I tried anorexia and that lasted about five minutes, really showed my lack of will power. But I am all for the cleanse...well done and good luck.
508. Anonymous said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0762424931/ref=sib_dp_ptu#reader-link- Here is a link to an excerpt from Skinn Bitch
509. ...loveMaegan said:
not eating meat is better for the environment and global warming than not driving an suv. - you can tell your mom that :)
510. Colleen in MA said:
I support your decision. First of all: It's your freakin' blog. Second of all: Considering I have read with tears in my eyes (happy and sad) how you have described depression, anxiety, motherhood, and the craziness of participating in society in general, I greatly look forward to hearing about the cleansing and the vegetarianism. Welcome from a fellow veg-head and I think you will have fun and discover new things about yourself on your new journey.
511. Heidi said:
I too, feel like crap a lot of days and I know it has to do with my diet. It's not so much the meat in my case, but the caffeine... Everyone I talk to who gives it up feels way better! hmm, too lofty to contemplate but someday soon! :) Good Luck to you! You'll do just great and am sure you'll feel better.
512. Mercutia said:
You have every right to do whatever makes you happiest. If this is a good thing, by all means go for it.
Any specific recipes on this new thing really grab you, by the way? I'd like to try some new stuff, not to cleanse, per se, but just to shake it up.
513. Amy Quarrier said:
When I hear the word 'cleanse' it's all about the colon for me. Does any of this involve washing out your butt hole? I must tell you that you've peeked my intrest in the book. I'm all for self depravation and suffering to give me a leg up on all the other super moms out there.
514. Larkhappy said:
I have a good friend who is a vegan and he always says he doesn't eat anything with a face, except his girlfriend.
515. Mary said:
Heather,
Hoorah! How wonderful that you are choosing to try something new to help you feel stronger and healthier. As for any negative opinions of others, well, life would be dull as dirt if we all agreed on what to think, feel, say, and eat. I gave up meat three months ago, as a means of supporting my eight-year old daughter. She gave up meat years ago, and I finally decided to join her.
I look forward to reading about your progress.
Mary
516. Mrs.Strizzay said:
I am down for whatever you decide to do, this whole blog is YOUR adventure. I must say, however, that nothing says lovin' like a smooth scotch and a juicy perfectly seasoned steak with just a bit of fat on the end. Let us know how the poop thing works out. And then pop another baby out. What the hell.
517. jen said:
Your body is gonna love you!
I have been after myself to do the same cleanse... so far I can't give up the caffeine and alcohol, I love that morning cup of coffee and glass of wine with dinner--too much!
518. Rachel said:
Hi Heather,
You and your body rock. Do whatever you want with them. :)
Best wishes, and thanks for sharing your life with us!
Rachel
519. Amy said:
Interest. Nothing like a good m/s mixed with banter about butt holes to really question what kind of people are living on this planet with you. By the way, we live near Destin and it was a huge deal that you were there... we posted about it and everything. Isn't it HEAVEN!!? I mean, uh, celestial place, or mystical realm...
520. Karen said:
I think it's a great idea. All of it. But I'm a vegetarian health nut martial artist Buddhist, so.....
521. cheriwan said:
Those with celiac salute you and your cleanse.
I am inspired and strengthened by this site: http://glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/
It's hard, and harder to explain to ANY human as to why I choose to not only shy away from gluten products, but why I can't even have bread touch my toaster.
I'm interested to hear about how you fare on this cleanse. Once I got through with it, I had never felt worse in the first two weeks, slept better in the second two weeks, and had more energy in the last two weeks.
Kudos
522. Anonymous said:
Although you're a stranger to me, I'm proud of you for doing this cleanse, in the way that only the internet allows. I have done a few cleanses before, and each one made me feel like shit, too. But now, ten years after I first started taking my health seriously, I'm so much healthier. I used to have chronic sinus infections, I had mono TWICE, and I even got scarlet fever. Really. So, my health has come a long, long way, and it's directly due to changes I've made in my diet.
I'm not a vegan, though I respect you for considering it. I just recently gave up meat, and my reasons were because of the amount of land and water it takes to raise meat in this country. Meat eating, at least in the every-single-meal way in which Americans eat meat, is completely unsustainable, and I don't think we realize how little time is left until we are forced to reconsider our national diet. Until that time, though, the people who insist on consuming meat daily will continue to do so until we're in crisis. Humans don't need meat to survive, that idea is a very recent one in our national psyche (and I suspect it has more to do with the national meat lobby than honest diet advice). I've learned to ignore the unsolicited negative reactions I get from strangers and friends alike - even my own family at times. You're choosing to eat in a way that's better for your body and for the future of our food security, and I'm happy for you.
All the haters will realize you were right when meat prices skyrocket, anyway. Oh, and if you want to have another kid, go ahead. Have ten! Because you can feed ten kids on a vegetarian diet for about the same environmental cost as one or two on a meat-eater's diet. When did child bearing become such a point of anger, anyway?
523. Manny said:
It's amazing how the tweaks in your diet can make a difference. Like you, I also drank 4 cups of coffee a day and 2-3 cokes. I also skipped breakfast every day. I started having stomach discomfort and it finally got bad enough that I went to the doctor. I was told that I have gastro-esophageal reflux disease or GERD which is really just a fancy way of saying hey man, your diet sucks (or HMYDS if you're into acronyms). I cut out coffee and soft drinks completely, started eating breakfast, and ate more fruits and vegetables. I lost 13 lbs in 6 weeks and I've kept it off ever since by just sticking with my diet. I sleep better at night also. The first 10 days was the most terrible caffeine withdrawal headache but after that was gone, I felt great. Do whatever makes you feel better.
524. Miz said:
Props to you and your self discipline! I would probably turn into the hulk if I cut butter, caffeine and alcohol out of my diet abruptly! (Such a "true american" eh?)
I find it amusing that people get so heated about food posts...thanks for sharing your quest for a cleansed body! I MIGHT contemplate an attempt at cleansing..but I'm not sure if the world is ready for a real live hulk to bring mayhem to the streets!!
525. Liz said:
vegan, vegetarian, fruitarian, and then there's those folks who only eat raw things: raw-vores? ickyvores?
Whatever. How do you feel? Oh yeah, LIKE SHIT. But satisfied, it sounds like. Day 3, as I recall, is the worst re headaches and flu-like symptoms. Things get steadily better from here.
I once ended a cleanse by buying a Three Musketeers, I wanted the taste of chocolate so bad (and I was in Cortez, Colorado, so the choices were slim). I took a bite and nearly threw up. Ooopsie. In retrospect I should have known it would have been a bad idea, but I was all happy and high on life. Anyway, if you do decide to integrate a few things back in post-cleanse: baby steps.
526. Samantha said:
Hah! I was vegan for almost two months recently and got the same kind of flack you got. Lots of people assume you're instantly an expert on everything you're supposed to eat, or that you suddenly define yourself by what you eat--which just seems weird to me. I'm still vegetarian and even that seems to go against the grain in a big way.
Good luck! There are tons of vegan/vegetarian websites out there with REALLY TASTY recipes.
527. T said:
You just made me love you even more than I already did.
I wish you the best of luck and strong will during your cleanse - YOU CAN DO IT!
YAY DOOCE! woot-woot!
528. JLS said:
You go girl!
I did a cleansing diet just before my pregnancy (4 years ago), and THANK GOD. I ended up on bedrest, and if I'd had to start giving up caffeine at that point (instead of having given it up some months before), I'd have just hung myself in the bathroom.
But seriously, it changed the way I approach food. At the very least, it was educational. And while I do occasionally eat meat (a few times a month, but not more), and sugar, and alcohol (just red wine these days), all of those things have been (ever since) occasional, instead of awful addictions. (Confession: back to being addicted to coffee. I wouldn't have survived my twins' early months without it, and I'm okay with having one thing I'm well and truly hooked on).
All this to say - huzzah for you! Good luck! Keep us posted. The first five days is the worst - it's cake after that.
529. Another Sarah said:
Good for you, Heather. I know giving up any one of the things you have mentioned will probably make you feel great. I'm a firm believer in baby steps and have always found taking small steps leads to success and the more dramatic the change the less likely a person is to have long-term success. I learned that way back in college in a training, planning, and periodization class and it made sense to me so I live by it. If you can make these profound changes all at once and have long-term success with it then good for you! Who cares what anyone else thinks.
I gained a good bit of weight last year during a personal crisis. I have turned to weight watchers to shed it (damn you skinny bitches!). WW doesn't suggest not drinking diet soda but it does suggest drinking a lot of water which means I have no room left for coffee or soda. Just that small change has made a tremendous difference in how I feel, my energy level, and make skin looks fabulous.
I wish you luck and happiness.
530. Leslie said:
You go lady, lady. Do what you do. That's why we read you. We love you for who you are. The others can go screw themselves.
531. pinkieyardbird said:
I cant' stop thinking about putting some Malibu Rum in my Frappuccino...
532. Elizabeth said:
Stick with the cleanse!! I'm speaking as a true Meat-a-tarian (I've raised livestock) and I think what you're doing, and whatever you choose to do at the end of 21 days, will be a great benefit. Several years ago I did South Beach and the first 2 weeks changed my life and made me rethink what I put in my body. I absolutely still eat meat, but I'm much more conscious about all the other stuff too.
Also, no idea what you can and cannot eat on you cleanse, but my husband, on a strict diet himself, absolutely LOVES Pioneer Woman's Spanish Green Beans. It's a veggie, right?! So what if it has two ounces of bacon, you could always substitute that out. I swear, these beans will keep my husband from noticing that he's not eating any meat, they are that good.
533. lizinsumner said:
To heck with the diet/cleanse thingy....I'm, like, totally afraid that you've bruised CoCo's poor, little psyche for life with that "hair-cut"!! Next time, try to feather it a little or something, pleeeeze?? No wonder Chuck looks so alarmed....he's, like, "Dude! If MY hairdresser did to me what yours did to you.....!"
534. Anonymous said:
regardless of your diet, i hope the destin tourism board covered your trip to their lovely beaches, because i suddenly want to go there. and i've NEVER had an interest in going to that part of florida before...
535. Sari said:
I don't eat dairy or gluten not out of choice but because I have Celiac disease and am allergic to casein. So, anyone who takes the lifestyle up out of choice? Mad props to you, especially if you can maintain it. Ignore everyone else. It's your body, do what you want. :)
536. Dana said:
Hah! I'm not in the LEAST bit surprised that everyone came out of the woodwork for that post. It's like you came out in support of gay marriage or something. Why DO people get so threatened when people make changes that effect only them?
I quit eating meat about 10 years ago and my father still tries to trick me into eating chicken. WTF?
Good luck, and I hope the headache lets up soon for you.
I quit smoking yesterday. Help me.
537. Jennifer said:
Personally, I'm an omnivore. Sometimes I consider going carnivore, but I really love my tomatoes. I couldn't go vegetarian and certainly not vegan, but if you can-more power to you. Hell, if you decided you wanted to forage for nuts in the woods, my opinion really wouldn't matter. I come here because your writing entertains me. I identify with a lot of it. I'm not so full of myself that I think that I can tell you how to live your life. I am just grateful that you share it with us. Thank you.
538. Norezee said:
My sister gave up gluten and her depression was amazingly relieved. My other sister became a vegan and her hormones went right back into whack. Several friends and family have had wonderful experiences with shaking up their diet, and I wish you all the best.
539. angry sugar mama said:
you rock.
i just wished we lived closer and you had more time for one more friend. i think we'd get along.
(i eat fish...pescetarian? or something like that. btw)
540. Kristi Dorson said:
You know, for my part I was really excited to read that you're trying this cleanse and are going to talk about it here. I can't wait to hear about your experiences and what it does for you / how it makes you feel! I'm hoping you will inspire me to clean up my diet and take better control of my health through nutrition.
Plus, your avocado-bean tostada creation looks delicious. I would totally hit that. Er, eat that.
541. ac said:
Good Onya, Heather. Please ignore the haters. People be crazy! I think there is a knee jerk reaction when people feel like they are being judged, and people are always feeling like they are being judged. What can you do?
542. Meg said:
I visit your webpage everyday for a few laughs, some interesting pictures, the occasional tear, and just an interesting read. You wanna go vegan, feel free. As long as your diet doesn't make you lose your sense of humor, go back to being a Mormon and become a right-wing Republican.
And if it does all that, more power to you. Give George W. my best!
543. tanyetta said:
Do what you feel is RIGHT for YOUR body!
544. Lovebuzz38 said:
When you mentioned possibly giving up meat the first thing that popped into my head was you in that shirt. I love that picture!
545. Bee said:
Good for you for taking actual steps toward a positive change. Many people don't have the guts to actually change something that doesn't satisfy them.
I've been a vegetarian for about 5 months for reasons similar to yours. It is surprising how many great things you really can find to eat. You end up not missing the meat after a while. At this point, thinking of eating chunks of meat in any form is less-than-appetizing. I think the hardest part is the first month when you're changing your habit of eating meat.
On the other hand, when I became vegetarian I thought long and hard about becoming vegan. It is appealing in ways, but it just seemed too difficult to be healthy on that diet. I'm sure some would argue against that. But I remember hearing about a doctor who said that he could always pick out the vegans who came to his office--they looked less healthy than many other patients, no matter how hard they tried to eat healthily. If you do choose to be vegan, I hope you will be very responsible and carefully plan to get the right nutrition in your meals. The reason I chose to not be vegan is the health reason and that it does not require loss of life to produce animal products like milk and eggs (although, admittedly, I would like to see more humane regulations enforced on those industries).
I don't see how people can bash someone for wanting to be a more compassionate person trying to cut down on the gross and inhumane loss of life associated with the meat industry. Don't let close-minded people steal your joy of being a more compassionate human being.
Good luck!
546. Diana said:
I'm thrilled that you're doing this. For many reasons that at the moment am too lazy to type out. I can't wait to read how it goes for you. Keep us informed!
547. Lauren said:
Re: Daily Chuck
HAHA - YOU SOOOO WOULD DO THAT!
P.S. Your "cleansing" lunch looks delicious. You're not staying away from the raw tomatoes then?
548. Tasty said:
Rock on, Dooce. Just to add to the discussion, I dated a lovely, lovely Vegan man for a bit, and, as he was wont to remind me, Vegans taste better. ;-)
549. squash said:
"I'm posting about it here because I think I'll have more motivation to stick to the cleanse if I post about it publicly..."
As someone who has had issues in the past struggling to maintain a lifestyle based upon that of those who surrounded you and the anxiety which that created, I would think that using overly critical blog readers/commenters to keep you on the straight and narrow may not be the best thing.
Otherwise, good luck with your nutritional makeover and don't flog yourself too hard.
550. Lisa said:
Good for you Heather! I don't know why people feel the need to judge! It is so nasty and talk about needing to cleanse....They should think about it! Good luck.......I'm dying to see how is goes ;)
551. Connie said:
So wait... people are getting angry that you've decided NOT to eat animals? So, like, are you supposed to eat babies to make them happy?
P.S.- The hard corn tortilla is also known as a tostada. Just thought you'd like to know. ;P
552. Sarah said:
Just remember...if you can still do anal and be a virgin, then you can still eat bacon and be a vegan.
I could totally be a vegetarian, but only if bacon counts as a vegetable.
Good luck!
553. Christine said:
Oh my!! First off, you probably won't read this far down, but what the hell anyway? I have to admit, when I read yesterdays post, I thought that you must have went to Florida for some radical lobotomy instead of Va-Ka!! You can do what ever you want, and I hope you're happy with whatever you decide. Just please don't get all preachy and 'in your face' about stuff! This is why I love your site so much because you don't do that and plus your funny as hell!! Stay real...in the words of Jack Black, 'You're not hardcore, unless you live hardcore!!! and you my friend are living hardcore..
554. Kristin (aka Krisco) said:
I just liked, "Why can't every day be Florida?" That was beautiful.
(And I say good for you on your cleanse, and I think that Allison from comment 3 who said you did know this topic would cause an uproar is either a new reader or too cynical. Plus it's always the throwaways that catch everybody up, seems to me.)
555. Melissa said:
I'm glad to hear your finding your diet easy to stick to. I know I was very concerned when I went gluten free that I would never be able to eat out again. Imagine my surprise when I realized just how much I could actually have.
Kudos to you for taking your health seriously!!
556. RzDrms said:
PLEASE tell us how big that tortilla is in today's daily photo...it looks like it's the size of a small, round tortilla chip that comes in a bag for dipping in salsa. is that how small it is, or is it larger, like a tortilla wrap? if it's the size of a chip, and you only had two...well, i'd still be STARVING.
557. theclevermom said:
Thanks for sharing this. A lovely little piece of writing. I wish you lots of luck during your cleanse.
I don't know if it would be helpful, but I started a little blog to deal with my families recent conversion to vegetarianism and I try to post recipes that my 5 year old will eat and thoughts on the process. http://vegetarianmoms.wordpress.com.
If you or any other vegetarian/vegan moms have recipes to share, or thoughts and tips, I'd really love the input.
558. Daiquiri said:
You are so dang funny!
I'm interested in this cleanse of yours. I'll definitely be interested to see how you feel at the end. If you feel awesome, I might...MIGHT...be convinced to do something similar. Chocolate - Diet Pepsi - SUGAR...my main vices.
I can definitely see going without meat. I was considering it over lunch today as I ate my very tasty "Flat Breat" wrap with hummus, lettuce, and salsa. I sure wasn't missing anything! (But I did have one gloriously fizzy and sweet DP to drink)
You probably know this already...but drink a TON of water...it'll help with the caffeine headache (a little).
Keep us posted. And hey, if you're looking for a home for your "tasty Murder" t-shirt, send it my way! So funny!!
Daiquiri
559. Allison said:
Hi Kristin #554!
Allison here (#3). I'm not a new reader and I'm not cynical. I'm actually a big dooce fan.
And I think Heather is a pioneer and a genius. She launched her blog way back because she she felt like. She doesn't need anyone's approval. And, as she has explained, this site supports her family. Lots (LOTS!) of loyal readers mean she can earn ad revenue. This is all good.
I wrote that she likely knew this would cause an uproar because she has witnessed dramatically polarizing reactions in the past with topics that were seemingly way more innocuous.
Her deserved success is, in my opinion, because she is a great writer who has insightful perspectives on myriad of things.
560. Miz Booshay said:
Oh! I wondered how your head was doing?
That is the hardest part.
I find the most amazing thing to be how quickly one loses their sugar craving.
Unbelievable!
Be well Heather.
Wishing you Florida Days!
561. Jen said:
Well, now I'm on Day 3 since your post inspired me to get started, and I have two suggestions:
1) Lundberg Rice Chips. Some of the flavors are sweetened, but the original Sea Salt and Wasabi are not. Yum.
2) Peanut butter. That's what will get me through this challenge. Right now I'm eating miniature PB sandwiches made with slices of banana. Yesterday for breakfast, I had slices of apple dipped in peanut butter. It's all good.
562. Talon said:
My bulbous ass told me I needed to go with veganism or a cleanse, or something. Alas, I love the meat too much...wait, that came out wrong.
563. Martta said:
While I'm not crazy that you've added another human to the world's population, I do support making a positive effort to feel better through changes in your diet.
A word on gluten: My fiance has to be a on a gluten-free diet for the most part. On occasion, I will partake of the gluten-free stuff and I have to say that when I do, I feel terrific! There are a lot of arguments for a gluten-free existence (Google away), one of them being that humans were never meant to eat all the wheat and corn products that we currently do. We've only been an agrarian society for a short blip of our existence. Our digestive systems were not meant to handle it, certainly not in the quantities most Americans ingest. And certainly not mixed with high fructose corn syrup and trans fats.
So good luck with that. I think if you stick with it, you'll see less allergies, colds, sinus infections, etc.
564. katie said:
heather-have i told you lately that i love you?
have i told you there's no one above you?
you fill my heart with gladness
take away all my sadness
ease my troubles that's what you do.
okay quoting a little Van Morrison (or Rod Stewart-whoever's version you like better) haha! okay, seriously, i am not a deranged blog stalker and i am married and my husband knows about my obsession with dooce. :)
your blog absolutly makes my day and i think you are talented beyond words, girl. for every negative comment you get, there are so many more people like me that think you are inspiring and hilarious. thank you thank you for this blog. don't ever stop being exactly who you are.
565. Angela Lauterbach - Ladyblog said:
Oh man, after watching that awful nasty horrible video of cattle being mistreated I nearly lost my mind with sadness. Amazing what we overlook in everyday life because we don't imagine such atrocities being real enough to be vigilant about. Who knew people would be this awful? Well, I am a cynic, but I would like "everyday to be Florida" too, so I try to have faith - but that video...
I have decided to start small, like the cleanse-lady said. Now I have organic veggies and fruits, whole food peanut butter and jelly, home-made bread. I did have funerals for the meat in the fridge. The cat was very angry about this and to control her yowling I offered this: her fate relied on my ability to not see her as food. She left it alone after that.
This will be a difficult cleanse. I like caffeine. Is diet coke made of anything animal tainted?
HA HA - and btw: my captcha was "advice men"
566. Alie said:
I applaud you for taking a new path in your life and trying something new. I don't know how I would be able to give up caffeine since I am severely addicted to Diet Pepsi. As for those who do not support you in your cleanse and possible new lifestyle choice? Screw them, it's your business and your body, do what is right for you!
567. Kendra said:
this is a SUPER healthy diet and I'm stoked with you for taking it seriously.
definatly take a second to look around at foodfightgrocery.com it's a 100% VEGAN CONVENIENCE STORE!!!
it's pretty much the greatest invention ever.
take care!
568. Patience said:
I must ask, and I'm sure it's been asked before, and I'm sure I won't be the last: which toxins, specifically?
I'm all for eating right, and have no issue with vegetarianism or veganism. I eat mostly vegetarian (I don't refer to myself as such because chicken and turkey are sometimes part of my diet) and prefer whole foods to processed, which includes grains. I don't see a real issue with your diet, especially since it's a limited time sort of deal and then you reintroduce things as you see fit. A drastic change can help really jumpstart other changes in your life, and that's all pretty groovy.
What does concern me is this nonsense about "toxins." I hate to see someone I like fall into that woo-filled silliness.
569. autumn said:
that's funny that you're getting such a huge reaction for this. my husband and i have been vegan for about thirteen years now and we're raising our son (age 4) the same. it's hard sometimes with him but we're pretty much used to things now and people have adjusted comfortably around us (you know, after we unglued our peta videos from their eyes). it's amazing how many more options there are for us to eat now from when we first started (including going out to restaurants!). being vegan's a piece of cake. i mean, a piece of delicious animal by product free cake. good luck.
570. theclevermom said:
@556. RzDrms
That looks like a tostada not a tortilla or nacho chip.
571. Lauren said:
I couldn't agree with you more. If you ever want to see the positive benefits of a nutritious detox diet, watch the BCC America show, You Are What You Eat. I know you're not 350 pounds or anything, but likely you are nutrient deficient in some way. Most people are, and the people on the show are to the extreme. Either way the show is kind of shocking, and inspirational all at the same time. I hope you'll try and find it to watch.
Also...quinoa. You should totally try it. I put a recipe on my blog for a great quinoa breakfast recipe, although you can also use it in side dishes and salads too.
Good Luck to you on your detox.
572. Jtango said:
I am a bit of an unbeliever in the toxin-cleansing part, but it's 21 days till I heave all my wobbly bits into a swimsuit for a week at the beach, so why not? Is there a list of rules or a daily schedule somewhere online, or do you just skip those main ingredients as you see fit (ha)?
573. Corina said:
I hope that you feel better too. It kind of is like getting a massage. Sometimes you feel achy after, then better after you drink alot of water because all of the toxins stored in your muscles are released.
574. samantha said:
i'm so glad you're doing this cleanse, just like i was that oprah's doing it. i think that people with your readership do a lot of favors to those of us living similar lifestyles when you show that it's a delicious and healthy way to live and that we're not depriving ourselves. i've been a vegetarian for over 10 years and flirt with veganism and couldn't be happier (and, of course, never preach). i am literally overwhelmed with how many amazing recipes are out there that are delicious and nutritious and sometimes not as nutritious. good luck!
575. online tv said:
Hi Heather,
Im not a vegetarian but i have gone on cleansing diets before where i ate only vegetables and fruits for 20 straight days and afterwards i felt so much better. It's impossible for me to be a strict vegetarian because i love meat so much but going on a fruit and vegetable diet for 20 days did make me feel a lot better.
576. Grahamn said:
Today, from the Left Coast of Hell to the Right Coast, atop the mountains, alongside the riverbanks, across the valleys and plains, packed together in the swarming cities, wallowing in the muck of farmlands and inhaling the relatively clean air that wafts through the wilderness, all the pigs dance with glee.
No more bacon for Ms. Dooce -E - doo Eee!
The pigs are filled with glee.
Yet every now now and then they must stop to take a break, for even pigs must pee.
577. Mel said:
Wow!! No caffenie for 21 days!! I could never do it..Good luck to ya Heather!!! I wish I had more self discipline cuz I would love to give my body a good cleansing.
578. Stepiphany said:
Good for you. What's important is getting healthy and enjoying your life.
579. Sharonymous said:
I personally am interested to see how you do because I too have the funtimes addiction to caffeine (a coffee and a diet coke a day IS a problem, I think) and the alcohol. I like to say that since I'm single I can afford to be stupid and drink myself into a slobbering mess every once in a while, but with all the alcoholism in my family, it's like playing Russian roulette, and that's pretty stupid of me. I hope this cleanse DOES fix your every problem. Like, Leta starts making mud pies and playing with Legos instead of princesses (they're cheaper, right?), Coco stops eating her poop (and starts getting REAL!), and Hollywood comes and begs you to write a script of your life that will be turned into a greenlit movie titled "The Doocening." And then you are played by Amber Valetta because she looks so much like you. And then it wins the Palme D'Or and...stuff. You know, the usual.
In other news, my little spam-stopping word I have to type in? Ducey.
580. mackley q greene said:
You know what's worse than a cleanse? Homeopathy.
Not only do you have to give up coffee, you can't have mint on homeopathy, people. That's right -- you gotta use FENNEL TOOTHPASTE. Mint cancels out the 'remedy.'
The treatment I got lasted six fricking weeks too. Thank god for black tea or my brain would have exploded.
And I don't think it worked. Or at least, I think I would have gotten to where I was at the end without it.
I was doing the elimination diet thing at the same time, and my doctor looked at my tongue (which was coated yellow, ewww) and said, 'you look like you're in detox.'
Hang in there. It's actually easier to rip your diet apart and put it back together again than to try to do it gradually.
And based on my experience, it's worth it to figure out what things you should clear out of your diet. Everybody is unique -- I can't have gluten or dairy, I have a cat who can't have fish, and my boyfriend doubles over in pain if he eats buckwheat -- so don't give up.
581. Kayla said:
ignore everyone, you do what you want.
582. heyMamas said:
Heather:
I posted a comment before but don't see it. Just wanted to let you know that you are doing the right thing for your body. Don't give up. Read Skinny Bitch by Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin and I promise you, you will be a changed woman.
583. Julie said:
I'm a longtime reader, who thanks you for your entertaining writing and probably more importantly your frank sharing about both motherhood and depression. On more than one occasion you've made me feel less alone in my struggles with both.
Was prompted to delurk to give you an extra round of kudos for the tough skin you've undoubtedly had to nourish to embrace the lesser-than-constructive feedback. I wish I could say that I'm shocked by people going all nutso about your personal eating choices, but...
FWIW, my husband made the choice to become a vegetarian about 5 years ago and took the step to become vegan about 6 months ago. I have a lot of admiration for his choice (animal rights/suffering-based) and his ability to stick to it. I remain an omnivore in large part out of my own inability to commit to what is involved with not doing so -- it's not an easy thing to do in our society functionally (the amount of products we use and consume that incorporate some form of animal product is really overwhelming and arguably unnecessary). Also, while getting iron and protein are not as impossible as most people think for a vegetarian or vegan, it does require both effort and planning. Still, I'm most overwhelmed by the antagonism that he gets from folks who find out that he is vegan. He is not in any way loud or pushy about it, but let me tell you, some of the "omnivores" we've encountered most certainly are. People get ridiculous, nonsensical and downright ANGRY just hearing that he doesn't eat meat, and they are mostly people who don't have a freaking clue what they're talking about on either side of the issue.
Nutty, man, nutty.
584. Aimee Greeblemonkey said:
I recently fell off the caffeine wagon and have I ever FELT LIKE CRAP! What is my PROBLEM? It even caused a lump and breast pain that scared me into the OBGYN. But have I gotten 100% back off again? NooOoooOooooOoooo.
Because it's HARD! Even when you were off caffeine for 6 years!
OK, rant over. Back to you.
Point being, do what works for your body and your lifestyle. Period.
Best wishes.
586. Tony said:
The longest cleanse I have done was for 14 days during high school (Olive Branch, near your hometown). I was already vegetarian at the time. At first, the cleanse was prepare for being vegan and rid any toxins from my body. My friend also decided to do a cleanse at the same time but there was not a set number of days. It turned into a contest once he jumped onboard and we both decided to end it on day 14. I believe I had a salad
The first couple of days were the worst, but it got much better after the hunger went away. I will say that I have never felt as good as I did after that cleanse.
I've been vegetarian since 10th grade and I'm currently vegan (10+ years meat-free). No preaching here. I think everyone's diet is their own choice. My choice in diet was not due of animal cruelty, it was because I have never liked meat or the thought of it. I am also lactose intolerant so that helped with the decision to become vegan.
I hope your cleanse goes well and it works out to what you're looking for in it.
Tony
Memphis, TN
587. Your Fun Family said:
I understand that when we blog we open ourselves up to comments that we may not like. I however do not understand why some people feel the need to be so negative and judgemental in their comments. It is not like you announced that you plan to start eating small children.
Good luck, I do not think I could do it. I am way too fond of caffeine and my after dinner drink.
588. Jana said:
I hope my comment and book suggestion (Nina Planck) wasn't taken as a terrified reaction to your potential vegetarianism! To each her own, really!
589. Uma Jadhav said:
Wow! You got angry reactions from you wanted to go on a cleanse diet? Wonder what would've happened had you suggested an enema instead. I heard that's one way to cleanse your body! :)Them crazy people need to get a life.
590. Liz Stevenson said:
Way to go on the cleanse, 4 days totally tops my 4 hour record!
591. Sarah said:
GAWD DAMN IT HEATHER! Now you have me thinking about doing this. I really don't want to but I feel compelled to do it now. Not even 200 comments ago I wished you luck and basically said I would NEVER do such a thing. Now you go and post a picture of your damned tasty lunch and I'm thinkin'....ya know I do feel like poo....hmmmmm. UUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH. I told my husband we need to do this. He asked who planted this idea in my head (as if I [the little wife] could never have an original thought, he's Mormon...forgive him). I replied "Well Heather is doing it and her lunch looked pretty decent..." He said "FFS who is Heather!?"
593. Lauren said:
I'm having a similar experience...
I had to give up all dairy (and believe me, there are milk by-products in EVERYTHING) because I'm breastfeeding and my baby is intolerant, and I'm shocked by how easy it's become. I'm cooking more than ever before, I've rediscovered all the yummy things that can be done with beans and rice and vegetables, and I feel better than I have in a long, long time. Granted, the fact that cheating on this diet will cause my child physical pain makes it a whole lot easier to stay on track, but still.
Anyway, good luck!
594. g l said:
Though it's a good idea to eat lots of fresh veggies and cut down on bacon and pop tarts and Rummyccinos, "detoxing" your body is a myth. As long as you drink enough plain ol' water (and it doesn't even need to be 8 glasses), your body detoxes itself every day using your kidneys, liver, etc. And unfortunately, the toxins that stick around (like all the scary flame retardants, etc.) aren't going to be "flushed" out by anything you eat or drink (or avoid eating or drinking, etc.). If your body wasn't good at detoxing itself, you'd be dead.
595. Kara said:
Not to make light of the subject, because I absolutely could not do what you are doing...I lack the will power, but if it works out for you and you feel better, maybe you should recommend it to Kathie Lee...she seems to need some help;)
596. Jen said:
I love the reaction to veganism, ha ha. It's like OH NO, another ass-backwards hippy! My mom still looks at me a little cock-eyed when I reach for the tofu.
Then again, veganism isn't really just a diet - it's an ethical movement. When many vegans reach out and try to educate we're seen as pushy. I mean, I am pushy, but for all the right reasons. Think about it this way: if you believed murder was being committed, wouldn't you stand up and try to get people to stop committing murder? Many people would call it a personal choice, but if you understand the philosophical ethic behind you realize it's actually a matter of justice. What IS a personal choice is whether or not you want to share what you know with the world, and many people choose not to. Which is fine. I've done both.
Being a vegetarian or a vegan isn't hard, either. It's much easier than breaking an addiction to say, this web site.
Also, I'd love to own the "Tasty Murder" T. It's 100% accurate, and I promise to wear it to animal rights stuff all the time.
And I love the vegan food porn. Yum.
597. Jen said:
Others have already suggested this, but I'll blow the trumpet a little louder. Read Michael Pollan's Omnivore's Dilema and In Defense of Food. Those books totally changed the way we cook and eat: much less meat, way more whole grains, lots of fruit and vegetables, as little processed food as possible... Namely, I try as hard as I can to eat real food now (as opposed to processed shit), even whole-fat stuff that I used to shun (it tends to have less additives, and we eat it in moderation). I did it to feel healthier, and I totally do. My bf has lost about 15 pounds, his blood pressure went from being too high to normal, and although he admits he can rarely recognize what he is eating these days (quinoa, wha?), he always enjoys it and is never hungry.
Oh, and your headaches are likely due to caffine AND sugar withdrawl. I used to eat a ton of sugar, and when I cut back, I had headaches and nausea.
599. Nichole said:
Good luck with your cleanse! That lunch you posted on the daily photo looked delicious. I am curious to see what else you eat while you are on this cleanse. I would love to try this 21 day thing, but I think I would run out of things to eat.
600. nia said:
hey good for you. i think a good portion of my morning sickness was caffeine withdrawal.
one of my favorite vegans calls himself a "freegan" he's vegan when he's buying but when he's a guest at someone Else's house (or whenever the food is free), he'll eat whatever is put in front of him. in those situations, it's more about the company than the meal. i just thought that was great.
and you can always try this, it's not vegan but it's veg
http://www.baconsalt.com/
601. Suzanne R said:
It's interesting to me that Joseph Smith was one of those who popularized a specific way of eating (and drinking, or not drinking), although ironically he said in the Word of Wisdom to eat meat sparingly, and when I was a Mormon, I and nearly every other Mormon I knew ate plenty of meat.
To me, there has always been and will always be differences in eating styles and habits, and those are entirely individual. I wouldn't want to tell another person how to eat or what to drink, except for when it comes to medical reasons (which I have). I do miss my pale ale though. Heh.
Still, I am interested in hearing how you feel after you have finished your cleansing, and I wish you the best.
603. Anonymous said:
Good for you! I personally love meat, but had to go veggie for a while because my digestive system is so messed up. I can eat that now, but still can't eat dairy. I also just started a gluten-free diet. The hardest part??? I LOVE bread. However, I have found that my favorite store (Trader Joe's) has so much to offer that is gluten free. I love it. Keep it up. I'm curious how you'll feel once your detox is over. I've realized how crappy gluten seriously makes me feel. Who knew?
605. Mothering Two said:
good for you, heather. i have eliminated soy, dairy, gluten, wheat, eggs, tree nuts, coconut, high fructose corn syrup, corn AND i am a vegetarian (12 years now). my daughter has severe eczema and is still nursing. i did it for her in the beginning but let me say, it was a gift (a hard one to swallow at first) because i realized that i actually feel better eating all the whole foods that i now eat.
i'm sure i will add some of that stuff back into my diet when i wean her and she grows out of some of those allergies. but, in moderation, for sure. i also have rheumatoid arthritis, am not taking meds and it is now under control since my major diet change. i'm pretty blown away by how good i feel, actually.
when bella went on antihistamines to help her stop scratching, i let loose and started eating cheese, bread... well, all that stuff. I FELT LIKE SHIT. i am back on the e-diet for her and me, and yeah, it was tough at first (again), but now i'm in the zone and feeling good.
my indulgences are dark chocolate and lays stackable potato chips... which i'm craving less and less every day.
so, good on you. do what you can to feel good. if you wanna know what i eat, feel free to e-mail me and i'll make some time to put something together for ya. i actually eat a lot for all those restrictions! :)
606. Wendy said:
I've done fasts just because it made me so aware of how I was eating out of habit. And it's usually the first 3 or 4 days of a detox that are the worst, after that you get a bit spacey and then you feel much much better. Good luck. I'm sure your sense of humor won't suffer a bit.
Though I am sort of interested in what wonderful, filling, diet meals you've been eating. But, I'm totally nosy that way.
607. jakki said:
Do YOU...and do you like nobody else's business because really who else is going to have to live with your decision? If you feel this positive about it, it cant be wrong and if it is, hey at least you made an attempt to better yourself. Not many people even do that...
608. E said:
Oh, man. Day 2 of giving up coffee was so painful. I felt flushed and my head was being crushed. But, it went away... Saw your tweet about your energy boost. Good for you.
609. Anonymous said:
Well, I have personal boundaries, so I don't really care what you do. But, my first thought on reading your previous post is that you should consider your medications again (i.e. re-evaluate them?). I thought this, 'cause I've noticed extreme changes in diet to be correlated with psychotic breaks (and I mean that literally, in my personal experience). Your mileage, of course, almost certainly varies. And, I am not a psychiatrist giving odd advice via the comments page of a blog, so probably not worth taking very seriously. But, I would suggest discussing diet with your physicians.
610. Michelle said:
My husband and daughter are gluten intolerant so we have a gluten free home. It can be very difficult as gluten can be found not only in premade sauces, and foods but also in things like vitamins and toothpaste. When you elimate gluten you are eating usually only the freshest and healthiest of foods so good for you doing this cleanse.
The Gluten Free Goddess is just one of many great bloggers that have some very tasty gluten free and vegetarian/vegan recipies.
I think you are hilarious and can't wait to read more about your journey and your comments on all those uptight know-it-all people who think they have a say on what you eat and how you live your life.
Best of Luck!
611. caren said:
i say what you eat is your own damn business! i don't care if you eat sushi, veggies, cornmeal, gallons of sugar, or a whole damn cow! people need to get a damn grip and worry about their own diets! i know i could DEFINATELY benefit from a cleanse... i just have no self control!!! :)
612. leslie said:
the masses are asses. except the masses of people above me saying things along the lines og "go you." it's the other, cirtical and lame masses i am referinf to.
so, you know. go you!
613. Jenny said:
Being comment # 3,699, I'm not sure you'll really read this, but I hope so, cause I have a question. :)
I'm very very close to doing this myself, and just need that extra little push. Your twitter proclamation today of your sudden burst of energy might be that push.
One Big Question though: has it been oodles more expensive to eat only those certain foods?
614. sam said:
Wow, I didn't have time to read the 500+ comments, so I'm sure more than one person has mentioned this, but I'm saying it anyway! My sister-in-law did this diet and felt AWFUL the first few days, but then felt spectacular by the time she was done. She had awful cravings for sweets toward the end, but to make up for it she just bought everyone around her dessert so she could watch them eat it. :) At any rate, my SIL was so glad she did it, and I'm sure you will be too. Have fun buying your friends dessert!
615. TitanKT said:
I recently decided to give up meat, at least temporarily, because it causes a digestive upheaval the like of which I can no longer tolerate. I do LOVE meat. ALL meat. Especially red meat and yes, bacon, too. Well, I say love... I have loved it and I would still love it... but it's hard to love anything that makes you feel like absolute shit for three, four and five days. You name the stomach symptom, I have it. So after a while... bacon doesn't sound so good anymore.
I'll add back in a few EXTRA lean things... fish, boneless, skinless chicken, turkey breast. But for now, while I am not doing a cleanse, I am avoiding ANYTHING with fat including butter and sour cream and cheese. I'm also avoiding alcohol because that seems to be a contributing factor to my enduring stomach issues. I don't drink tons of coffee, so I'm keeping my one cup in the morning and it does have a splash of half and half, but that's it.
Anyway, I guess my point is we all have reasons for our diet, either eating stuff we like because we like it or not eating stuff because for whatever reason it's not good for us personally... makes us feel bad, makes us really fat, etc. I know you know it's only because you shared on the internet about your diet that you caught as much flak as you did... but I say, do what you do... I can read about it or not, but it's not really my place to have anything to say about it.
616. Cherie said:
Tammy (number 25) that's what I am: a baco-vegetarian. I didn't know you could be one of those. Actually I'm sure you can't but thank you for putting a term against my condition. I now go forward as a baco-vegetarian. I don't eat fish or eggs so I have bacon credits.
617. DDS said:
The veggie/vegan diet might cure your constipation. A vegan friend told me that Doritos have animal in them (some kind of chicken substance).