Something to chew on
Indulge me for a second and consider this scenario: let's say you're given the opportunity to donate some money to a desperate family who would use it to feed their children, but were only able to do so if you donated the same amount of money to someone you knew would use it to buy crack. Would you do it?
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1. Chelley said:
Depends... are they sharing this crack with me?
Totally kidding. This is a tough one.
2. Anonymous said:
I think hunger is the greatest human error we could possibly make. A crack head suffers, but no child should ever have to suffer for something they have no control over.
3. Anonymous said:
I'd give the money.
4. Sarah said:
You asked a simple question, and rather than give you a diatribe, I'll answer it - yes. It would be worth it to help those who truly needed it.
5. cattitude said:
hmmm...hard one. but I think the needs of the hungry family would outweigh the *sigh* outrage of feeding the crack habit.
6. Lisa said:
Let them eat cake, and let them eat crack. If a family is desparate, they need our help, right? So we help them.
7. MommaStone said:
Yes. It is my responsibility to help when I can regardless of how the money is used.
It is not up to me to ensure the money is used "properly"
8. Meg said:
Depends on which you find more valuable: providing for those who have not, or withholding from those that shouldn't. Why do you ask?
9. obamabot said:
Donation? Sure.
But if someone was going to throw me in jail if I didn't? Well then you're talking about taxes, and just playing semantics to try and prove a naive point.
10. Meghan said:
I'd donate the money without hesitation. Drug addicts aren't lost causes and the snowball effect of keeping a family going trumps the negativity of a crackhead buying drugs. Something good WILL come of helping a family. A crackhead only hurts themselves.
I'm off to balance something on my head while I watch the debates!
11. megan said:
absolutely I would give the money. If I felt at all uncomfortable with my decision, I would give a little money to some sort of secular rehab program that has a reputation for helping addicts.
But don't you always wonder if you would actually do what you would hypothetically do? I wonder all the time.
12. Amanda said:
This is a toughie because I've seen what crack can do first hand to a relative...
I would give the money. I couldn't control it either way since it's a gift. Like, you can't be mad at the bum on the street for going to buy alcohol with the money you drop in his cup b/c once you give it it's not yours anymore... I feel like the same kind of applies here.
Or I just sounded really stupid.
13. Andy said:
Yes.
Being the cynic I am, I am convinced the crack-head would score the drug with or without my money. Maybe by robbing and stealing.
But the hungry family would stay hungry.
Alas, this is not a choice that scales well (i.e. helping one third world country, but only if you help a neighboring dictatorship).
14. Mrs McP said:
Yes I would.
15. Moriya said:
No. Funny you should post this today because after a lot of soul searching I've recently come to conclusion that if anything regarding money resulted in a negative outcome, EVEN if part of it was positive, that it's not worth it.
1 good + 1 bad = right where you started.
Good timing, Dooce. Love your blog.
16. Anonymous said:
If children are involved, yes. And then I would intervene through legal channels and my own resolve, because the crack addicted parent or relative connected to this family might be responsible for this family's desperation. Extract the children and remain involved. Child advocacy is what my life is all about.
17. Jannie said:
Sure, because the crack-head's gonna find the drug somewhere anyway but the hungry ones may be depending on me alone.
18. Lerren said:
Yup. And already have. Doesn't bother me.
19. Unbalanced Libra said:
I already donate to poor people - the government takes that from me via taxes. You know, the money tat goes to all those government programs that the bleeding heart liberals feel we need.
You can take the crack addict out of the equation, I still wouldn't donate to the poor family.
20. Jo said:
Absolutely I would. Didn't even have to think about it really.
21. Ashee said:
Without thinking, yes, I would give the money if I had it.
22. Amy said:
I think I would. You never know when a kind gesture changes the life of another.
23. obamabot said:
Try this one on for size:
Would you make this donation, even if you knew there was a possibility that the guy who bought crack would kill those children on the street?
24. Jess said:
Yes, without a second thought.
25. kalen said:
no.
think of it this way - you give money to someone you know would use it for crack & during a binge one night, they run into the family you helped feed. they are high & out of it and in a daze, they crash their car into the family as they cross the street, or their drug dealer fires & kills one of the children during an argument, etc.
butterfly effect.
one cancels out the other.
26. April said:
This is a tough question. I think I would do it because I would be feeding a family. The person who will buy crack will buy it no matter where they get the money from. People often steal things to buy drugs. At least, they wouldn't be committing another crime to get the drugs. You're not forcing it on them, and only they can or should decide what to put in their own body. I think the good you do outweighs the potential for bad.
27. Laura said:
Sure! Let the crack head go screw himself! If it's a desperate family with hungry children? You betcha. Why should the children suffer because the crackhead has a problem?
28. Adrienne said:
Yes, without a thought, yes.
29. Anonymous said:
#23, there's a possiblity that the crackhead "might" kill the children on the street.
There's also the possiblity that he might not. I'd take the risk.
30. Judith said:
I would help them, too, and also without hesitation. No need to punish them for someone else's addiction.
Especially, but not only, if children are involved.
31. Sunny said:
yes, without hesitation. i would always rather err on the side of mercy than judgement.
32. Jordan said:
Yes. Absolutely.
33. Judith said:
And the "cancels each other out"-thing doesn't apply here at all, since for the crackhead a fix more or less doesn't really make a difference (yeah, I know, unless it's the last one yadda yadda), whereas help for someone desperate makes a world of difference.
34. Jen said:
Yes. I think the good outweighs the bad in this scenario.
35. Karen said:
The hungry family may not necessarily be decent people - maybe they sell crack. You just say they are desperate and willing to use the donation to feed their children. The people who buy crack ... maybe they are more desperate than the family who needs the food. Who knows? No matter, I wouldn't want children to suffer and go hungry, so I would donate so they could be fed and know kindness. Maybe the crack users were once children that no one helped feed - and they grew up only knowing desperation.
36. Johnny said:
False alternative. Why would you have to give the same money to the crack addict?
37. maya said:
yes.
38. Kathy said:
Yes, I would.
39. Tracy said:
Yes, of course.
40. Kate said:
Yes. Chances are, the person on crack would find another way to get it-perhaps even stealing, or mugging, hurting someone else to get it- but that family will probably not have another option.
41. cara said:
no. because the crackhead would just steal the food from the family while he was high on crack.
42. Melanie said:
yes..
43. jamie said:
Of course. (I suspect this question is about politics, but it doesn't really matter.) Why would you withhold good from someone?
44. Steph said:
The amount of crack would be considerably smaller than the amount of food. While I'm not for supporting someone's fatal habit, if that's what they choose then I wouldn't knowingly let anyone starve just to prevent it, especially knowing that an addict will feed their addiction regardless. I don't think there's any canceling out - a good doesn't just erase a bad, but a bad doesn't erase a good either.
45. Ms.Moon said:
Donate the freaking money.
46. Kristin A. said:
Yes I would give the money.
47. mpotter said:
i would because i know that the crack addict would get the drugs anyway. i'm not naive enough to think that b/c i didn't give the addict money it would cure them.
i'm also not naive to think that the donation to help the family is a permanent fix, either. i feed them once, and tomorrow they're asking for more.
but i do what i can to help in the way that i can.
48. Wendy said:
Yes.
Here is what would happen.
The hungry family would get food.
The crackhead would get crack.
The crackhead would not steal the money needed to buy the crack that you just paid for, thereby helping ANOTHER family that the crackhead didn't steal from.
So it's a TWO-FER! Two people win against the one crackhead who is now really high. Pros outweigh the cons. see? I can rationalize ANYTHING. It's a gift I have.
49. Jodi aka so NOT cool said:
Interesting scenerio ... I think that I would do it, give the money, thinking that it's sort of a method of population control. Some people will be saved, and the self-destructive drug addict might die a little quicker.
Just a thought, but not necessarily the *right* one.
50. steph said:
#36, because she is alluding to the welfare system.
51. Dale Cruse said:
You and Jon fight over the weirdest things.
52. Andrew said:
I would feel terrible for the needy family, I would, but absolutely never in my life would I give money to support someones drug habit. DRUGS = GANG VIOLENCE = innocent victoms.
I will follow this up by saying I have been struggling with the thought of gang violence recenly. I think I have become prejudiced about anybody who resembles a gang member because of it. Maybe I am old, but I just don't get it. Why do we continue to let us kill each other over what useually ends up being drugs?
53. Sarah said:
I would give the money. The good you'd be doing would outweigh the bad. The people buying crack would be buying it anyway but this way you get to help deserving people as well.
54. Angelique said:
I totally would. You would be helping a needy family, and contributing to Darwinism in motion.
55. C- said:
hmmmm. Very clever question.
I am all for bailing out Wall Street (the crack family) If it will save Main Street (the hungry family)
C-
56. Chris said:
Bailout anyone?
57. Malita said:
I'd tell them no and take the first family to a program that would give treat them as an individual and not lump them with the crack family - then I'd sneak the kids away from the crack heads and feed them and find them better parents and have the parents put out in the country on a working farm - my company has a great program that I work with for families that have been affected by hardship - we literally look at each individual family and if we can't help them to the extent they need we pool other organizations to help - hard work yes, but effective. And let's be honest - we have more time now than we ever had - if we can play on facebook and blogs we DO have the time to help people, myself the blog fan included.
58. From Roma with love said:
My take is that the act of giving is the end itself and not a mean to justify the end (in this case the money to eat or the crack)
Giving to both is an act of kindness whether they decide to use it for money or crack but the basic assumption is that I am helping/giving to someone
I am not looking to sponsor someone's drug habit but I think giving is good for the giver and the receiver
59. Heather's Garden said:
Absolutely not.
60. obamabot said:
Are we still talking donation? Or taxes?
Because a tax "is not a voluntary payment or donation," nor is it supposed to be spent on any specific benefactor, but toward the public good for which no specific benefits are obtained.
So are you talking about a donation for crackheads and starving families? Or taxes?
61. Christy Wood said:
#9....well said.
62. Jen said:
Yes, I would. The children would probably starve without help, and they can't help their situation. There isn't any guarantee that the crackhead will do harm while he's high.
63. Jenny said:
Yes.
64. Jill said:
Nope. Turn around and show grace to the family who doesn't have a dinner on the table around the corner. Too hypothetical and black and white. Not to be too nike, but just do it.
65. Anonymous said:
I turn to Spock (as in Star Trek, not Dr.): The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
therefore, help the family -
Basically, as others have said, you cannot rationalize NOT helping people when you are able to help by creating a false counterweight of "but someone else will do something "bad"
66. Margie said:
would definately give the money to feed the children. . no child should ever be hungry in this world. . no matter what
67. kimberly said:
no- i wouldn't.
but i would spend my time teaching the family in need how to earn money. i would help them learn a trade, or help them raise money through a church or school. giving them money would only help temporarily.
what's that phrase- give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but teach him how to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
yeah- that's more my style.
68. Megan said:
Yes, without hesitation. Helping a hungry family to eat is a bigger good than helping a crack addict get high is a bad. Also, I wish that UnbalancedLibra (#19) and his or her ilk would stop ranting about the guvmint and bleeding heart liberals. It's so 1994.
69. dd said:
I would be more creative and find some other way to help that family without helping the other.
70. ronbailey said:
Assuming you had the money to give, it would take a real prick to say no... giving isn't about attaching strings, FFS. You give because it's the right thing to do, and what the recipient ultimately does with the gift doesn't involve or concern you.
If you had qualms about what the crack-smokers were going to do with the cash, then your gift isn't about doing what's right, or helping the family in need - it's more about your own ego.
71. Toni said:
Absolutely. The family who needs food trumps the crackhead.
To the person who left the comment about "bleeding heart liberals:" I haven't heard that kind of crap since "All in the Family" went off the air. Come on, Archie Bunker, step into the new millennium. Also, you can choose to think of your tax dollars as paying for police, fire fighters and the DEA if you want. You don't have to see it as your tax dollars paying for, god forbid, foodstamps.
(BTW, the comment about the crackhead's fix "being the last one" is really ignorant. Crackheads don't overdose. Smoking crack isn't something that kills directly like injecting cocaine or heroin.)
72. Tracey said:
I'd donate it. Why should the kids and the hungry family suffer because of the crack user? Also, in a glass half full, rose colored glasses with a sparkling rainbow overhead that has shooting stars zipping by leaving sparkling trails in their wake, point of view...perhaps, in this scenario, the crack user would take the money and NOT buy crack...*sigh* I like a happy ending.
Besides you said give the crack user the money, that's not giving him crack, I'd like to think there's always a choice, and it's not written in stone. What's that? Did I just hear birds start singing merrily as the sun set, a rosy ball of light on the horizon bringing with it the distant scent of flowers......music swells up...credits roll......
Yep, give the money, maybe the ending would be nicer than we think. *grins*
73. Rose said:
Yep!
74. Melissa W said:
Yes.
75. Suzi said:
This sounds oddly similar to where my taxes already go
76. ESullins said:
No. I would do everything I could to ensure that a local food bank got food for the family, but I couldn't buy crack.
Oh, but kalen @25 - crack addicts don't generally own cars, and if they do, they don't drive them high. Crack addicts sit around when they're high, and drive when they need a fix. So think about THAT.
77. Lisa said:
I would have to say yes because at the very least......you are helping somebody to feed innocent children who need the assistance.....I would have to not think about the crack family and only the ones truly in need to make it justified. It is all about those that we HELP in a good way........that is the focus, I believe.
78. duck_jb said:
I would donate it. If I didnt donate it would be cold comfort to the family to know that it was because I was 'trying to do the right thing." Anyone who has seen their family go hungry knows there is oftent imes little room for moral high ground when your kids bellies are empty.
79. Veronica said:
This is difficult, but I'd give the money. I know what drug addiction can do to people and the great lengths they'll go to in order to feed their addiction, the hungry family is depending on me.
80. Mike said:
I would buy them a grocery store gift card or take them to the store and pay for what they needed.
81. Lim Jun Jie said:
Children are innocent creatures in this world, we have absolutely no reason for them to go hungry. They are our responsibilities.
82. Rose said:
Going over the comments, people have some interesting reasons for saying no - mostly very abstract (ie - butterfly effect), or providing solutions to the problem, which kind of defeats the purpose of the question.
I think it's better if people just say yes or no, without all the what-ifs and "ha! I've come up with a win-win solution!"
And also,
I like #51's reply the best :-P
83. Stephanie A. said:
the crackhead will get his/her fix no matter what, so helping the family is the obvious choice.
84. Cara said:
A crack addict will always find a way to get what they want - those who are hungry usually suffer...so i would still donate the money and save the crack addict from having to steal from someone else for at least that one hit, and feed hunger at the same time.
85. reelmomof4 said:
Hmmm. . . I think I would try to give food instead of money. If that were a possibility. It does avoid giving money to the crack addict. We have fed a few down and outers who were clearly addicted to something, but did not give the actual money. Seems like the better thing to do. I understand the issue of the kids being involved though. I would want to help for the kids.
Tammy
86. Grant said:
Hello, 9th grade. What a childish mental exercise.
87. Anonymous said:
Yes. The crack buyer will find some other way to get crack anyway.
For some reason, this reminds me of people who don't want to pay taxes to help other people who really need it--because you never know, some of it might end up in the hands of a lazy person. Hmmmmmmmm.
88. Anu said:
Yes I would. I see no point in punishing the hungry family because of the crack addict.
89. Kris said:
Well the nice thing about your vote for a Democratic candidate is that you won't have to answer questions like that. The Governement won't give you the choice - they will just take it from you and you will like it. :o)
But for me? I would not give the family money - I would give them food. And throw a few pounds to the crack addict, too.
90. ESullins said:
Oh yeah, followup: I'd donate money to the food bank, of course. A lot. And then I'd go donate to www.noonprop8.com
91. Auds at Barking Mad said:
I wouldn't even think about it, given the fact that I *knew* the hungry family would use it to feed and nourish themselves and their children.
Whilst the crack addict doesn't need the drug to sustain his life, the family does need the food to sustain their lives. The crack addict if going to get his fix one way or another, and likely he might harm someone else in an effort to obtain the drugs.
92. Danielle said:
#70: very very well said.
93. Suzanne said:
Side on generosity.
94. Lisa Guidarini said:
Yes, I would. The positive of feeding a family is worth even a sacrifice like this, knowing you'd be feeding a crack addict's habit, too.
95. Michelle said:
Yes, I would do it. It didn't take me long to decide.
The people I'd be giving money for crack to are probably already addicted, which means they would find some other way to get the crack no matter what.
96. Tara's Mom said:
Yes, although I hope there is something left for people to give in the future. When and if my family ever needs it, I'm afraid the pantry will be bare.
97. Laura said:
Yes, I would. It's the right thing to do.
98. derfina said:
Absolutely. If I give, I give freely with no stipulations, and preferably anonymously.
99. Jen said:
No.
I'd invite the family over for dinner. I'd make them a wonderful dinner and eat it with them. Then, I'd make their kids hot fudge sundaes with whipped cream and cherries for dessert. I'd let them know they can come over for dinner anytime they'd like.
After they left, I'd find the crack addict and give him/her a sandwich. Crack addicts get hungry too.
100. Tamara in GA said:
Yes. Children shouldn't suffer for adults bad choices.
101. Emily said:
I think that's the challenge you face whenever you donate money. SOME of it isn't going to go where you want it to, but is it then better not to help at all?
102. Anonymous said:
I'd give it all to the crackie, there are too many starving kids, give your hard earned dosh to someone who'll really appreciate it, at least for the night.
Seriously though, why wouldn't you? I don't think anyone withholding money is going to cure someone's addiction, so why not help the family in need? It's not like you're forcing them to buy crack, that would be a different story.
103. Stephanie said:
what's the phrase about teaching a man to fish....
teach the family to sell crack, introduce the crack head to the "new dealer".
it works for everyone--the family is making money, he crackhead gets his crack and you do your civic duty.
104. Emily said:
Is it the bleeding heart liberals who are solely supporting this $700b bailout plan?
Yes, I would give the money, absolutely. I've seen friends and family on cocaine, and I'd rather see that than hunger. Sure, crack is BAD, but food is NECESSARY.
(Oh, and thanks, Dooce, for posting those photos of the Walkmen earlier. I've been listening to nothing but You & Me for the past couple of weeks.)
105. Alicia said:
A definite yes.
Living in Canada, we seem to do this all the time; Methadone clinics, free needle sites...and take care of those with other needs.
106. Jaime said:
Yes. I'd definitely give the money anyway.
It's no different than people who need temporary welfare assistance, or similar assistance. There are a small few who will sell off what is bought with the bridge card or whatever, and purchase crack or other drugs, but the vast majority use it to feed themselves and their children during tough times.
It's worth the risk of feeding a few habits to make sure people are fed.
107. Anonymous said:
I wouldn't do it.
I'd give food to the family, not money.
108. Jess said:
No. And I probably wouldn't donate the money to the family if it wasn't contingent on a crack addict receiving money, either.
Instead, I'd set the family up with something that could help them long-term: food stamps, a steady job, some form of residual income that would allow them to eat month after month. A donation can help a short-term problem, but the money eventually runs out.
109. Bluepurl said:
Yep, I'd donate. Who knows? The person who buys the crack might go on to make amazing art, or cure cancer, or quit crack and take good care of kids and old folks.
110. RzDrms said:
i'd absolutely, of course, give my money. who knows if one of those children being fed will eventually grow up to change the negative state of drugs in our nation? (although it could always go the other way, obviously, and the drug addict could/may harm the innocent family while looking for even more money to support his/her habit.) however...watch a child starve NOW (while still feeding the druggie), or watch the child POSSIBLY die later after being robbed?? i'll save the kid NOW, and let the future work itself out.
what would YOU do, heather?
111. Liz said:
Yes. The person buying crack is already being stupid and ruining their life with it. That's their decision. If I can afford to give money to a poor family and they really need it, I will do so. If the crack addict chooses to buy crack with his share, well, I honestly feel like that's his or her problem.
112. Dei said:
Yes.
Giving should be done because it should be done and not cheapened by you deciding who is worthwhile enough to receive before you hand over anything. The very worst of things happen when people presume they are somehow better than that person who needs help. Food or a fix is help. Short term help but you do that and then you look at the long term ways of helping them. Giving is the first step towards taking responsibility and making things better in society as a whole to my mind.
I just realised how angry I have been getting listening to people spewing bile about how they 'waste' money/taxes on these people lately. Every human is worthwhile.
113. Lissa said:
I find it interesting how many readers are assuming that the players in the situation (a hungry family and a crack addict) are somehow related by interaction when, as posited, their only link is the Donor.
In my case, the answer is No. I don't willingly support broken systems, and I don't accept that this premise is the only way of providing aid to those in need.
Feed a hungry family a meal and assist them to provide for themselves in the future; provide nourishment and dignity.
For those addicted to drugs, forced rehabilitation is an oxymoron; addictions can only be truly overcome by true internal desire and willpower. I can't force a course correction, but I can refuse to enable the addict.
114. Anonymous said:
I need to ask: is it just that you yourself are 100% sure the crack addict will buy crack with it, or is it a condition of the question that it DOES get bought?
115. Bren said:
Wow - wheredja find this one? In between the couch cushions? Yikes!
My feeling is this: The people who want the crack are gonna find the money somewhere, somehow. The people who need the food might not be as lucky. So I would cough up the cash to both and hope and pray that my good deed might make enough of a difference in BOTH families that good change could come from my actions.
More pics of the kids - all three of them - and less angst. On the night of the debate of all things! LOL!
116. Gi said:
There are other families you can donate $ to and will appreciate your $ without needing to donate to crackheads. So no.
If the family is in front of me I'll take them out to a good, filling dinner.
117. Black Hockey Jesus said:
I'd just spend it all on hookers & beer, Dooce.
118. Sarah said:
nothing to chew on ... absolutely NOT. I would not give money to a crack addict, EVER.
But .. I would go and buy food and bring it over to the family and make sure their kids had food to eat, everyday, 3 meals a day....
119. andrell said:
I'm all about helping people as I was homeless growing up.
I totally don't mind my tax dollars going to people inn need
I JUST WISH THEY WOULD DRUG SCREEN PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GAVE THEM WELFARE.
120. jen c said:
yes. no questions.
121. Sarah said:
Yes. Absolutely.
122. Kris said:
Nope. I wouldn't and that probably makes me a bad person. I WOULD however go and use that moeny towards the ACTUAL groceries and drop them off a the needy family's home. Screw the crack heads. No offense.
123. Carissa said:
I'd buy the family food. Is money the only solution?
124. ann said:
NO child should go hungry! I don't even have to think about this.... Absolutely I would give them the money!
125. Vivienne said:
I would absolutely donate the money to both parties. No one is responsible for another's choice. If the crack head wants to light up the money, that's what they'll do with or without the donation. At least the deserving family benefits. I would, however, report the clucker to police, even though they'd be released in hours.
126. Kristan said:
I would, because similar to what some have already said, when there are children involved, children who cannot be to blame for their parents' poverty, it's pretty much impossible for me not to.
As long as we're speaking hypothetically, am I allowed to also call someone to help the crackhead break his habit?
127. Moose said:
This right here is why I couldn't ever be a world leader - these must be the choices they face everyday, with the decision affecting not two families but thousands or millions. Whenever I wanted to hurl a brick at George Bush's smug monkey face on TV, I'd try to remember this. (For the record, I'm not sure it ever worked. Enlightenment is way beyond me, I fear.)
To answer the question: Yes, I would give the money. To the family, for obvious reasons. I would justify giving to the crack addict by telling myself that a crack addict is going to get the money somewhere, and maybe my money would save at least one victim. I'd like to think that the good in that action would outweigh the bad.
Am I right? No clue. One of the many reasons why I don't lead so much as a girl scout troupe.
128. Mary said:
I absolutely would, yes. A gift is a gift is a gift. If I give someone money and they choose to use it in a way I don't necessarily approve of, that really doesn't matter. Once it's out of my hands, it's not my business to judge how the individual chooses to use it. Even if the family used half the money to buy crack, I would still help them if I was able.
129. Heidi said:
Um- yes. That doesn't seem tough at all. The family without food is in need.
130. rcs said:
No, I wouldn't. I'm active in my community and donate my time and money to those I see are in need. I don't give to the crack user, the bureaucrat or the middleperson who takes their 'fair' share, then give the pennies that remain to the needy (or gaming the system) family and call it 'helping', 'justice', or a 'social program'. Is it more effort? Sure is, but I don't think a bunch of independently wealthy, out of touch people thousands of miles away know how to spend my money better than I do, and I resent their implications that they do.
131. Kristy said:
Being blunt, I'll give the money for the food, thinking that the crackhead would get his/her fix countless times more anyways, I just happen to be providing it this time
of course, this is assuming it really was such a narrow situation
132. Mel-O-Drama said:
I'd do it without question.
133. PhillyOne said:
Is this some sort of comparison to the so-called Bailout that Congress came up with?
134. Julie Gaffey said:
You'd HAVE to donate! You really don't know if your first family will use the money for food, it might just be a ploy to get your cash and then they end up blowing it at Foxwoods. Also, who knows if you donate your money and the second crack head family ends up so moved by your generousity to get help and in turn help others in the same situation. If we hoard and protect our money, we end up miserable in so many ways. If we share our wealth and prosperity, it only grows with each gift we offer.
135. Haley-O said:
Yes. The desperate family shouldn't have to suffer or lose out because of a crack family....
136. Christina Sciubba said:
Without a second thought.
137. Anna said:
i'd give the money. you can't stop an addict- they have to want to stop.
138. Alissa said:
I already knew my answer before posting, but I really loved what #48 Wendy said. It is definitely a two-fer; I can't believe I didn't see it!
Also, I find that showing compassion to ANYONE can have good results. Perhaps you will inspire the crack addict to do one good thing in return, as in those Liberty Mutual insurance commercials.
I'm an optimist.
Thanks for helping me procrastinate! It's always worth my time!
139. Trisha said:
In a heartbeat, give the money.
140. gina said:
I would totally do it! The crackheads are gonna get their crack whether its from you or the old lady who they rob to buy it.
141. Kathleen said:
I believe a lot of the comments are missing the point and that this post was a parable for the welfare system. Or I am reading way too much into the post.
That being said, I loath the current situation in this country where it is more profitable and often more socially acceptable for a high schooler to get pregnant rather than go to college or trade school when we link money to children for "desperate families" who would use the donated money to feed their children - there has to be a better way.
I would rather supply food to the family and the crackhead.
142. Cassie said:
No.
143. LeroyInsane said:
Yes. Just yes. No "feeding a family trumps the crack addict" or "I'd donate food instead!"
It's a yes or no question.
144. Brenda said:
Yes. No question. And, to be honest, the more ruthless side of me is hopeful that the crackhead will OD and no longer be a drain on his/her family, friends and community. The nicer side of me is appalled at that thought, but agrees that you can't stop helping people in need because some may abuse the help you offer.
145. Katrina said:
Give them the money. Why let kids suffer for a crackhead? The crackhead will find crack however he can, whether you give him money or not - the kids don't have that same option.
xoxo
146. Laura Senecal said:
Dude. No question.
YES.
Feed them babies. The crack heads will find a way to get crack. No matter if they had money or not.
147. Sylvia said:
Yes.
148. Mandee said:
Without question, yes.
149. suzanne said:
Why not say, 'f_ck the crack head', and give YOUR OWN money to the hungry family so that the crack head doesn't get ANY?
150. Alicia said:
Yes. Without a doubt, yes. The children shouldn't have to suffer because of some dumbass crackhead.
151. Pat said:
not sure what the point of your question is. obviously it's not a win-win situation. are you wondering why people do what they do, or are you being provocative?
either way, i'm happy to see that most people are on the side of 'giving' no matter what the cost. that makes me feel good. and i'd do it. yes, no hesitation.
152. Anonymous said:
Absolutely.
Besides, it's not like if you don't give them the money, they won't buy crack. They'll just get money somewhere else, maybe have to steal it or worse.
153. js said:
Left leaning is fine if you are that way for the right reasons, however I find most Democrats vote that way because they view the "cool people" do (Hollywood, the uber rich, Buffett who practices nothing he preaches, etc). Educate yourself, don't follow.
Now to the home work...
Research the charitable givings of those running for President and Vice-President. You will find that the McCains have given over 25% to charities yearly, Obama (the man that wants US ALL to help the world) less than 2%, Biden also less than 2%.
I've always thought people put their money where their mouth is, and that is who they really are.
154. Katherine said:
Yes.
So what if the person is using it for crack? No, really. Addiction is a disease and they need it more than I do. (That's the short version.)
I guess that's going to make people mad. People who are mad: I never remember to look back at comment. You'd be better e-mailing me, even if I feel the same way about it as Dooce does.
Will you follow up in-depth as to your reason for asking?
155. Drew said:
I'd give the money. No one should have to go without food... ever.
156. Kate said:
Yes. Absolutely.
157. destroyer said:
Would walk away from the whole tricky mess and go see a movie about nature.
158. RzDrms said:
(arrrggghhh! they both just "agreed that they do not support gay marriage." do what?! what year is this?! 1968, i say.)
159. MarathonMom said:
Ugh. I think I would do it too.
Who are we to judge the crackhead about their mistakes when we are just as guilty.
160. Mary said:
No, I wouldn't donate the money. I'd cook for the needy family and teach them how to eat healthy on a budget. If they're so hungry they're starving, someone didn't or can't manage the money properly. Sometimes giving people money without any caveats or assistance is worse.
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.
161. Caitie said:
I could never live knowing that I prevented someone from their habit for one day, while letting kids go hungry. I would most definetly give the money. No question.
162. Anonymous said:
Yes. Unequivocally.
163. Anonymous said:
Yes. As so many others have written, no one should go hungry, even if it means giving a crackhead money. What he does with it is his/her business.
164. Paula said:
How about giving them both a gift card to a grocery store? Does that satisfy the equality?
165. maris said:
That depends. Is the person who would use it to buy crack IN the hungry family? If so, then no.
166. Anonymous said:
I'd give the money in a heart beat.
Without thinking.
In a New York minute.
167. KT said:
Yes. The crack addict will most assuredly find a way to get the crack anyway, but the family may not find a way to get food.
168. elincville said:
No, not if I were living in my current town. There is a community food bank. Churches in the area have a well-established, coordinated effort that provides free, hot meals every weekday. Public schools provide free breakfasts and lunches to students. If we can ensure that the family is fed without facilitating a crack addict's drug habit, I'd go that route.
169. Anonymous said:
Yes. Without thinking about it.
170. keagansmom said:
YES
171. Amy said:
Yes. Absolutely. We're talking about human lives here...nothing is more valuable. No prejudice against those addicted to drugs should block our absolute obligations to other humans who are in need. Its not even a hard question, on those terms.
172. sassypriscilla said:
Yes.
173. Ballookey said:
You're going to get all Paul Harvey on us after we comment and say, "And the name of that hungry family was Manson." But on the stated conditions, yes, I'd give the money.
174. reavolution said:
No. Plain and simple. One right does not outweigh one wrong. In either situation, my tax dollars, under a democratic White House, would be funding some sort of program to support BOTH situations: one to feed the family, one to rehab the crack addict. Do I have empathy to a poor family? Of course, but I can't help others until I fulfill my basic needs first. And taxing me more is going to make that less possible. I think you know Mr. Maslow and his hierarchy.
On a side note: speaking entirely in metaphors is unbecoming of good bloggers/writers. You've proven you're an articulate, intelligent, and thoughtful woman - especially when it comes to expressing your political ideas, regardless of which readers agree and which do not. Don't BS your readers who clearly don't see through the veil to the point you are trying to prove.
175. Ms.Carson said:
Yes, I would donate the money. Because the good that would come of feeding the hungry family would be very obvious and you really never what will happen if you are generous to the crack addict. They might buy crack with your money but after that who knows. Kindness and generosity and compassion are often redemptive whereas ignoring and neglecting people seldom is...
176. Anonymous said:
Yes.
177. Victoria said:
Short answer? I would.
178. Merosmash said:
Yes. If I have the means to help people, I help them. No questions asked.
179. Minda said:
I would. Children should never go hungry. The good from that deed outweighs any bad people might see in supporting a druggie. And, at the risk of sounding callous, a crack head would get the money anyway. Might as well help evolution on its inevitable path of taking that person out of the gene pool in a early demise.
180. Missives From Suburbia said:
Without question. Junkies get their fix whether you fund them or not. Might as well help a needy family in the process.
181. Nellie said:
In a heartbeat.
182. melissa said:
I'd give the money. The needs of the hungry family are far more important than the crackhead. And the crackhead will find a way to buy crack rather or not you give the money to them anyways. The hungry family may not be able to find food without your help.
183. Bexy said:
Yes. The crackhead doesn't HAVE to buy the crack. Besides, who knows what kind of genetically altered food product the family will buy? It's about the gift.
184. Cheryl said:
I just posed this SAME question to my ultra-conservative boyfriend the other day. Dude..that's freaky. Yeah, I said "dude"
Because I'm watching the debate....do they teach republicans to mispronounce the word "nuclear"????
Wait..now she's trying really hard to get it right. And to think...I was kinda bummed that I was going to miss The Office tonight.
185. Bari said:
Absolutely.
I can't imagine starving a child because some crackhead wants to kill himself.
186. Margot said:
Yes.
187. Noelle said:
Yes, I think so. Anyway I could help a family in need feels right to me.
188. Slag said:
Yeah man, as long as I could afford it, and I KNEW the family were DEFINITELY spending it on food.
189. Anonymous said:
I would give the hungry family food instead of money and not give crackie anything.
190. Becky said:
Why can't I just invite them over for dinner?
I hate the idea that we can just drive-by meet people's needs. Or that we can outsource them to professionals (who are so overwhelmed and prone to burnout!). I would want to make dinner for the crackhead (look! they saved $3 they could use on crack!!) and the hungry family.
I wish that there wasn't such a strong class-divide between middle class and actually poor - it makes genuine humankindness seem condescending and isolates those with resources from those with needs, forcing the artificial middleman of "donations". (Not like it's ever been much different, but I can still answer a hypothetical question with a hypothetical dream:))
191. Liz said:
Absolutely. You get to choose whether to be charitable or not, and they get to choose how they use the money. You do your part. That's all you can do.
192. Catherine said:
After reading all the comments, I'm thinking that this is most definitely about politics. That being said, I am non-political. I don't have a degree in Politics or Economics. The larger picture here, to me, is muddied and confusing.
In a political scenario, aren't we already doing this? Of course, the hungriest of the hungry are going without and this is a source of deep anger for me. The system is broken and it doesn't look like it's going to be fixed any time soon. Really.
In a theoretical scenario, if I have to strictly stick to the question, then yes, I would give the money.
In the real world I'd get the hungry family as much food as I could afford, and get them resources like the food bank, coalition for the homeless (they feed anyone at the one near me), etc. The crack addict...that's tough. You never know what brought the addict to where they are, but they have to decide to change. I don't like throwing money out the window. So I suppose I'd give the crack addict a pamphlet or something because the truth of the matter is that when you are ready to change, you'll change, even without a pamphlet. Or money.
Sigh. The debates are on right now and I just can't stomach the thought of watching them. I'm a Democrat, I think that Sarah Palin is a BLANK SLATE and hasn't a clue and Joe Biden (I grew up in Delaware) is a doofus. A far more experienced doofus, but nonetheless, a doofus. So, in the end I think that the hungry family will still be hungry and the crack addict will still be smoking crack.
And I've worked hard on being optimimistic for the last 8 years.
The End.
193. jen said:
You'd have to. Children should not starve.
194. Heather said:
NO
195. Marsha said:
I work as a court reporter in the District Court. I see a lot of crack heads as you call them. My money would go first to a family, but unlike some, I see crack heads as people too. I don't like drug users in our society but I do sit in a courtroom everyday where the addicts cry for their families and mostly for themselves. It's hard not to feel for another human's strife no matter where you find it.
Without a doubt I would rather give a hand to a struggling family than a struggling addict; but your question requires it both ways, so of course I'd open my wallet.
I love good families, but I also recognize many who are addicts are mentally ill and have come from backgrounds most of us don't want to hear about.
Don't look at all people as though they have chosen their destiny.
196. Susan said:
Nope. But then again I hate these play questions that would never happen in real life. If I really had to give the same to both families, I'd just buy meals in restaurants that the family would have to eat and could not transfer to someone else.
197. Melissacg said:
Absolutely. I've been a social worker and have worked with both drug addicts and hungry children. Absolutely. Either way, it's alleviating pain. It might not benefit the addict in the long run, but will definitely benefit the kiddos.
198. Anonymous said:
Neither, but give the hungry family information on social services, food pantries, and temporary assistance.
199. Meegan said:
Assuming the crack head is an adult, capable of making his/her own decisions, then yes. If not, wow that gets a lot tougher.
200. jen said:
And to number 174 - Do you think her readers are less intelligent than yourself? I think we all know she's aiming at something bigger.
201. KW said:
I would give the money. Maybe the people who you thought would buy crack would not this time. Even if they did buy crack, it would be worth it to help the family who really needed the money.
202. Gabby said:
Yes, if I could, I would. I can't judge if I'm going to give.
203. Linda said:
No. I can find a place to donate my money where it will do good without compromise.
204. Kimberly said:
yes. I'm pretty sure the family isn't going to spend it at Whole Foods, but I feel confident the crack head has already sold their soul. Give em all a break.
205. feathermaye said:
Yes, I'd do it.
206. buy blu-ray dvds said:
crack feeds families too.
jokes.
the benefit of feeding a hungry child outweighs the negative of the crack i think.
207. Ashley said:
Yes.
208. Kyle Joseph Albert said:
Ya, I definitely would give money to both the family and the crack addict.
Though as mentioned earlier, this seems remarkably similar to the bailout plan, if it is, than well played, if not, it's cool to see how it can be applied like that
209. Shen-Shen said:
Yes, harming one person who is self-harming themselves mainly by choice is... justified.. if it means helping out a family.
210. Ann said:
I think you're referring to our current welfare system. And yes, I would in a heartbeat.
211. Elena said:
I would give the money. The crack user will find a way to use the crack anyway, with or without me. If I can help feed someone who has no other means, I will do it.
212. Laurie said:
For sure I would!
Giving money is a karmic act, and though you cannot control what people will do with whatever it is you donate to them, the universe will still reward you for your kind deeds.
213. Mary said:
I wouldn't give money to the poor family nor would I give a tweeker crack.
People need to be held responsible for their own family and their own well being.
214. theambershow said:
Yes.
I sure would.
As a true "good person" and humanist, I would feed the child.
215. Tone Flabby Arms said:
You bet I would.
OBAMA 08!!!
216. amber said:
I'd give them money... without a doubt.
217. Jen - Mom of 4 said:
I would give the money. While the crack addict would buy crack - you open the door for the family for hope. Once they get back on their feet, I would hope, that they would be more likely to donate to others.
218. Anonymous said:
Definitely, I would also try to offer healthcare which could cover rehab if the crack user was willing to clean up.
219. Super Woman (Amy G.) said:
I would donate the money. It would bug me knowing that the other person would be using the money to buy and do dangerous, stupid drugs, but if it would mean that the desperate family could feed their children, that's worth it a million times over. I hate the thought of children suffering, and constant hunger is something no child should ever have to endure.
220. Holmes said:
How could you not? If it were YOUR child starving, would you care if a crack-addict was getting their fix?
221. rantolotl said:
Of course I would.
And once you give money, or anything else for that matter, it's no longer yours - you don't control it, you don't control how it's spent. You can't place conditions on it, and anyone who thinks that they can or should really needs to get a reality check.
As for this whole "I'd invite them around to my place and make them dinner!" bit - why? Why should people be denied the simple dignity of being able to at least control their own meal? You can have them over and treat them as kings as much as you want, but all you're doing is taunting them by placing these bizarre conditions on your charity. By all means, give them a bag of groceries or whatever, but to force them into a quite intimate environment for your own ego is just wrong.
222. Meg said:
In a heartbeat!
But I am, as my in-laws frequently remind me, a bleeding heart liberal, and it's dumb people like me who fund welfare queens.
223. Elena said:
PS: The crackhead is more likely to kill without the crack.
Drugs will always be around. What's the point in trying to fight it? This world will never be perfect, but I'll be damned if I'm going to knowingly let a child starve.
224. Anonymous said:
For being all about Christian values, it's a shame so many Republicans forget to live as Jesus would want them to. Jesus helped all who needed him without question or judgment.
225. Wendi said:
If this is an option, I'd take said money and buy food and give that to the hungry family.
If that is not an option, then yes I would give them money, but I would also find them a local food bank.
226. Elena said:
Gosh, Mary. I hope you never need anything. Harsh.
227. groovebag said:
I'd give the money to both...it's high (pardon the pun) time we treat drug addictions as a medical problem rather than a social problem.
Hunger sucks but so does being addicted to highly addictive drug.
228. Anonymous said:
yes. it would help the hungry kids and wouldn't do much further damage, if any, to the crack addict (they're prob. going to get their crack somehow--whether it's with your money or, um, other means)
229. Salena of The Daily Rant said:
I would absolutely give the money to the hungry family.
And hopefully, that money given to the crackhead would buy them the last hit they'll ever take.
230. amy said:
yes
231. local web design said:
yes i would. but forget this stuff the debate is on!
OBAMA
232. A-2 said:
absolutely NOT!
And that's the difference between you and me. And that is why you're a democrat and I'm a republican. Why give the money to the crack head? Why support their habit? They might find it somewhere else, but at least I'll know I'm not helping them get high every day.
Amazing how many democrats you have as readers. I guess I'm one of 4 republicans.
McCain/Palin 2008.
233. Eatmisery said:
I would totally help that family feed their children, even if it meant I'd have to give the same amount of money to a crackhead. If he od's before he reproduces, we all win. Right?
234. Anad said:
Abso-fucking-lutely... what the recipient does with it doesn't change the good intent of the giver, and besides, it would be worth it to help the ones that really wanted it anyway.
235. Dogmom said:
I truly believe that the important point is person A's giving, not what persons B (the food) and C (the crack) do with what's given. Absolutely I would give and try to let go of the ultimate result of what's given. I think the question also could be are you giving with a good motive or an expectation of control over the gift?
236. Anad said:
And I just read the comment from the Republican above... I am Republican too... doesn't make me an asshole!
237. Meg8 said:
Absolutely, feed the family. Thus, feed the crackhead.
Now I will turn back and watch the ridiculous Sarah Palin continue to 'debate',whilst I mend my bleeding heart.
238. Christy said:
Hell yes.
239. tulip said:
Yes. I'm sorry that 'yes' is not an automatic answer for more people. It makes me sad.
240. Kellie said:
good point. i'm australian so we do this with our welfare system already. i'm not sure how the usa works, but i couldn't imagine not having welfare payments and free health cover for those who need it most.
i'd give the money in a heartbeat.
241. Ryanne said:
The crack only hurts the person doing it. The food will help the family. The person who wants the crack will probably get it no matter what, if they are a true "crackhead" they will find a way. So.... yes, I would
242. Paula said:
Heck, yeah! In a heartbeat. Don't think you aren't actually doing two good deeds. That person now won't have to steal from someone they either know or don't know or use money they should be using for food or bills in order to get their because one way or another, they're going to buy the . Even if it just means they buy MORE than they would have, it doesn't matter. Like I said, they're going to get it anyway.
243. Karl said:
I'd give the money. But you specifically noted that the crack user was someone you knew. I would then get to know them a lot better, and do what ever I could to help them. With help, hopefully the crack user will be in a position to make the same decision in the future.
244. Kate said:
If I can, I give money to anyone who asks. I hope he uses it for food, but I know he might use if for crack. When it comes down to it, it is good for me to give, whatever it is used for.
245. Eve Grey said:
In a heartbeat. The people who will use it on crack are not addicts because you gave them money. They were addicts long before you met. They're going to find a way no matter what. In fact, you'll probably be helping them to eat as well that day and maybe even not have to turn a trick that night to pay for their drugs. What about the homeless guy alcoholic begging on the street? Will I not give because he'll spend it on alcohol? He'll get alcohol no matter what. Extra cash means food and maybe a rooming house for the night. I work with addicts. Anybody who says anything different knows nothing about addictions or poverty. Period.
246. Rochelle said:
Instead of giving them money, I'd buy them food, and then the crack heads could have the same food so I'd be helping out those who really need it and not helping continue a horrible habit and see my money go to waste.
If I can't convert the money to food, I'd rather see someone in need helped out than see them go without because of someone else's bad choices.
247. Lara said:
Wow, is that ever a tough question and I'm very afraid that I'm being "set up" and that there is going to be some inevitable comparison made tomorrow..."well, if you would do that, then...", but I'm going to jump in and go for it, anyway...
Yes, I would give the money. To both. Knowingly and willingly.
If someone needs food (especially children, a family) and you have the ability to help them, I believe that you should help them. No matter what. To deny that is to deny any kind of basic human decency.
The way that I justify giving to the crack addict as well is this:
If someone is THAT addicted that they are taking from others to satisfy their cravings, they are likely to be taking from others in other ways (burglary, robbery, etc.), anyway, so if you give them their cash directly, you might be saving someone else from being victimized.
If you can help someone blameless, you have an obligation to do it, even if it causes debatable harm to someone else that is NOT blameless.
I can't wait to see what you are able to deduce (ha! de-dooce) from this.
248. Amaelija said:
Yes. I would give the money.
249. jackr said:
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: I'd try to find some way to make it less "win/lose." That could be something like changing the rules by giving the food directly rather than the money generally; might also be by engaging the crack user more redemptively. But even if there's nothing like that to be done, sure.
250. Lee Cockrum said:
Yes. As many others have said, it is not about the attachment to where the money will go. It is about generosity.
And I am really sad for the people who say "no, the government takes enough taxes to do it all". At the risk of sounding like Pollyanna, if everyone did whatever they could do, in their sphere of influence, the world would be so much better off.
251. Karl said:
And 232 doesn't speak for Republicans. I think All readers here know that. That was so blatantly mean I think it might be a plant.
252. DBN said:
I believe that we should give with the hope they will do the right thing, but it is not our duty to control the choice that they make.
253. Anonymous said:
Good question...
Educate them! How does the saying go? "Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach him to fish and he will never go hungry again."
As far as the drug addict goes, let him hit his/her rock bottom. When they are ready, educate them.
254. Kathryn said:
Yes. The children are innocent and have no control over the situation. If I have the ability to help them, it's something I would do. The adult buying crack is the one responsible for his/her decision to buy/use crack, not me. The good, in this situation, far out weighs the bad.
255. Anonymous said:
I'd give food to the needy family instead.
256. Debbie said:
I grew up hungry because my parents were horribly irresponsible with money.
If you can help, don't let those kids suffer like I did.
257. Carrie said:
I firmly believe that if you are going to give something, like money, away like that - than there should be no strings.
If it is a selfless act of kindness than it should be just that . . . selfless.
258. Michelle said:
I'd give it. Someone who'd use the money to get crack is going to find a way to get crack whether I'm involved or not.
I'm pretty darn sure I've funded crack use already, against my will: when I lived in northeast DC, I had a new bicycle stolen from my garage, and I had my car stereo ripped off from in front of my house. These things are easy to turn around for quick money. I can't know for sure that the money went to crack, but the big old baggie of crack rocks I found in my backyard at that house one time when the fence was down for construction leaves me to draw my own conclusions about what the neighborhood's downwardly mobile were up to in their spare time.
So, you know. Crack gets smoked by those prone to smoking crack. It'd be a different question if the tradeoff were, say, addicting someone who had been clean, as the price of helping that family. Something like that. But your question is, would I accept a sordid status quo on one hand in exchange for a tangible improvement on the other? And that doesn't seem so bad.
259. Janet said:
Duh. No. You circumvent the rules of the game and go to a food bank (or buy groceries at a store) and bring them actual food items. And then there's no money changing hands that will require giving money to the ones who will buy crack.
It's a pretty standard rule of giving that you give the items that are needed, NOT cash.
260. Dawn said:
Yes, I'd give the money. The crack addict would find a way to get it anyway and the kids might otherwise go hungry.
261. Does it matter who? said:
At my regular thursday volunteer work today at lunch on the serving line at our local food bank, I asked to a grown man (who could've been my dad/uncle), as I do to all 300 people that come through the line, "How're you today?" 98% of time time, they answer something like "fine," or "blessed," or "good; and you?"
This guy answered. "I'm hungry."
not in a sarcastic or mean or political way, but in a truly honest way as he eyed and picked up his plate of food (perhaps his only meal of the day). My.heart.broke.
Whether he was a crack addict, a mentally disabled man, a child who grew up with no food his whole life, or whatever else, it wasn't for me to judge.
This guy was HUNGRY. For FOOD. To LIVE. Get a job?! Fine; Tell Wal-Mart to call him on the local 7-11 payphone while he showers in the rain to get ready for work. I'll be sure to suggest that to him next week.
And the woman standing NEXT to me today in the serving line handing out pineapple chunks *was homeless herself,* deaf, disabled, living in a group home about to be kicked out while I stood there in my heels and makeup. Humbling? Um, slightly.
Feed the hungry people! Take my friggin money; I can't take it with me! I was blessed with a healthier brain/family/body; I'M WILLING TO SHARE MY BLESSINGS.
262. Amy said:
Yes.
263. obamabot said:
Everyone who is naive enough to say "WELL the crackhead is going to get it with or without me" is shifting responsibility and just deferring that THEY would be the ones fueling that single hit of addiction that could result in the DEATH of those children they just "selflessly" fed with their donation.
By saying ADDICTS ARE ADDICTS, THE END just makes you feel okay about giving them that ability to keep on wasting your money THAT YOU "DONATED" and deferring the responsibility of this rather linear scenario.
264. Anonymous said:
why is it that we KNOW the crack head will find the crack anyway but we don't assume the same of the hungry family?
265. MG said:
The crackhead is going to find a fix either way. Why make an innocent family suffer?
266. Lauren said:
I would give it, without hesitation.
267. Christina said:
Yes
268. RzDrms said:
#264: because crack is, by far, a more powerful addiction than food, believe it or not.
269. essdee said:
No.
Donate my time in soup kitchens, half-way homes and other programs to help hungry families and crack heads? Yes. Fork over money to be used however the family and crack head see fit? No.
Money does not fix problems. Money is a band-aid.
270. Ariel said:
You feed the hungry kids.
Cause they don't have a choice.
271. Jannie Funster said:
BTW, what's the catch?
272. Terri said:
Definitely, would give the money, without hesitation. When you "give" money you do it from the heart and can't control what people will do with it. What if the needy family just bought soda and chips with the money?
Yep, I'd give the money and try not to think about what was done with it.
273. Anonymous said:
A few days ago I asked my 12-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter what they would do if they saw a poor-looking family (mom, dad, baby) at Target and the father was stealing baby formula.
My daughter said she would call a friend and them what she saw, but she would not tell any authority.
My son said he would offer to pay for the formula.
My daughter's answer did not surprise me--typical teenager with a cell phone. My son, who NEVER has any money, was able to see outside of the lines---and speak to what SHOULD happen. If he had it--it was theirs!
274. Noelle Buttry said:
Totally agree with Mary. Cook for the needy family. In fact, just last week I took home-cooked food to a guy lying on the sidewalk under a blanket. And I'm a Republican, God forbid.
275. Indiana Brit said:
Yes. You can't punish the family for what the crack addict is doing.
276. Jennifer B. said:
Yes! I agree with the comments relating to helping those in need, let those who choose to abuse themselves suffer later. And, from personal experience even drug addicts who are given help, can and DO change! (If they are ready to.) I won't ever stop trying to help others.
277. Tracy said:
Yes, I'd give it. The crackhead will find money somehow anyway to feed the crack habit, so it's not like the end result there will be any different. But the hungry family might actually be helped.
278. goofy girl said:
The overall benefit would be good, so I would do it. You don't know if the person is just doing the crack for fun, or if they are addicted. And if they are addicted, just giving them money for it isn't going to change their addiction - it's just a one time thing as opposed to an enabling family member.
279. Kate said:
This is why I give people granola bars. And donate to charities I trust, which can include both crack rehab and foodbanks.
Also, whoever said crackheads only hurt themselves is incorrect on many counts, none of which I'll elaborate upon :)
Not the straightforward answer you're looking for, I know. Sorry!
280. Anonymous said:
I'd give the money. But never for a heartbeat believe that a crack addict or any other sort of addict "only hurts themselves". I've seen first hand how drug abuse can destroy a family, seen the theft, lies and destruction drugs bring to all who know the addict, and felt the unimaginable pain it causes. It is NOT a victimless crime.
I'd give the money, only because the good would go to someone who needed it, and the addict is going to find a way to get their fix with or without my help.
281. Enna said:
In the short term, yes, I would give the money to get the hungry family past their desperate period.
Now, I wouldn't regularly, repeatedly hand over money to the hungry family and the crack addict. In the long term, the family would be better served by an investment, "teach a man to fish"-style, whether in terms of finding them better jobs or education or something, so that they weren't dependent.
Re "he'll get crack anyway": A crack addict's desperation for crack is not greater than a healthy family's desperation for food. "He'll get it anyway" applies to the family, too - people will steal before they starve, and, in this country, the poor suffer more from obesity than malnutrition. (Our ancestors would never have believed such a world was possible, where the poor were fatter than the rich.) That said, I don't want people to have to be scared about where their next meal is coming from, whether they starve or not.
I just think, long term, you shouldn't give people counter-incentives to improving their lives, whether they are families or crack addicts or crack-addicted families. There are a lot of ways to be smart about charity, to make it constructive, instead of just turning it into a means of keeping people dependent.
282. lisa said:
$ to both.
283. Vanessa said:
Excellent way of watering down such issues as welfare, taxes, this massive bailout.........
Economists have stated this before.
Example: This curent mess on Wall Street. Which is more important, Punishing Wall Street or backstopping this potential economic nightmare?
284. Rachel said:
How about I just purchase the same amount of groceries for the hungry family and the crackhead?
285. Polly said:
Yes.
I've written some three paragraphs about this trying to explain why, but previous commenters have said it well: giving and kindness justify themselves. And addicts are so good at sustaining their addictions that my money is one score among many, many others.
An aside to those who have been to NA meetings: Did you ever hear an addict say that they quit using because it just got too expensive? Yeah...
286. ASoko said:
No.
Contributing to crackheads contributes to the breakdown of our community in many forms.
The breakdown of our community hurts everyone, whether or not you are starving.
I cannot turn a blind eye to my own actions when I know they have ultimately harmed someone (by furthering his crack addiction) even if I had good intentions or thought that my actions helped another person.
There are more ways to help a hungry family than to give them money. Giving them something a little more helpful, like actual food, would be much better.
287. Jacquie said:
Without hesitation.
288. Jennifer said:
Yes, I'd give the money.
289. Spring said:
Oooh, this is so Book of Questions.
Yes. I would.
290. Athena said:
If a crack addict can find a way to get drugs, don't you think a mother and father who cant afford food for their children would find a way to find food? I know I would. I would do ANYTHING. It doesn't matter, either way.
I would give the money.
291. Sara said:
I wouldn't donate money. I'd buy them groceries.
292. Corey said:
Yes.
But why do I have the feeling this is going somewhere tomorrow??!!
293. Smalltown Mom said:
No, it's a stupid condition.
I still have free CHOICE in this world (so far) and would not choose to make a donation under those conditions.
There is nothing stopping me from giving food/money to the needy family under my own terms.
294. schmilf said:
Give it!! I did not read every comment but I am glad to see the ones i skimmed threw thought as I did help the needy...
295. Anonymous said:
Sounds like the welfare system to me.
296. Lauren Strange said:
I don't know if I could do it.
Because what if that second family had children? That'd be ruining their lives as well.
I agree with what someone said a few comments before me, I'd buy the groceries FOR both of the families.
They could just deal.
297. Jennifer said:
Dude, what a stupid question. Seriously.
Teach the dad or mom a skill and get them a freakin' job instead of just pouring money at them.
298. bee said:
Without a breath, yes...sadly, the family in need would get half of your ultimate contribution but is it not better to give them half of a chance to live (and the other half to others that may likely die by choice) than give nothing at all?
Thought of you this evening while watching the debates...but I honestly could not watch without vomiting.
299. Melissa said:
Well, aren't you the clever one!
Yes, I would give to the hungry family...and why? Because it's the right thing to do. Period.
300. snookie said:
To answer 'yes' would only enable a quick fix for both the family and the drug addict. They'd be hungry tomorrow, and the addict would be searching for another hit. Give them support, a job, a reason to better themselves. Just a note to #224 "Jesus helped all who needed him without question or judgement." Yes, but being a Christian Republican, I find it hard to believe that Jesus would hand over the funds so Mr. Addict could score his next hit. I missed that verse in the bible (rolling my eyes!!)