Mortified

Last week I received my contributor's copy of Cringe: Teenage Diaries, Journals, Notes, Letters, Poems, and Abandoned Rock Operas. My friend, Sarah, put together this compilation of real teenage diary and journal entries, and it is screamingly funny in an OH MY GOD WHY DID NO ONE PUNCH ME IN THE FACE kind of way.

The entry I submitted is from the diary I kept during my freshman year in college, the year before I started taking meds for The Crazy, and there were so many choice excerpts that I had a hard time deciding which one was the most humiliating. Take for instance this entry from February 11, 1994:

It reads:
Ryan called the other night. I sent him a barney valentine card. Satan does live. He gets his vitality in Ryan. Satan himself called at the most vulnerable point of my entire semester yet. And how did Heather do? But of course she prattled to the tyranny of Satan and his servants. Without going into detail, I'll just relate what I've learned: I need to justify myself to no one except me and my Heavenly Father. No one else. The only opinion that counts is that of God. All else is foolish. And Ryan/Satan is just that.
Ryan/Satan was my boyfriend in high school, the first boyfriend I ever had, who broke up with me after three months because, oh, I WAS INSANE? I think he was calling me when I was in college to see if maybe I had grown any alien appendages, like a tree trunk jutting out from my brain, because certainly that was inevitable.
Then there's this one from February 8, 1994:

It reads:
Tuesday afternoon. But not by much. 12:38pm. I have a few before my daily carnal indulgence — Guiding Light. I think the weather has a lot to do with these complacent feelings I'm experiencing. Is it snow or just albino raindrops? Can't tell. Okay, about yesterday. First off, I was walking to the computer lab at about 7:30am yesterday when *bum ba bum* the National Anthem began to resound across campus and the flag began to ascend its pole. I was walking with my head down and happened to look up. There were about 20 people out there on the quad that early. Every single one of them stopped dead in his tracks, placed his hand over his heart, faced the flag, and contributed to the silence of the moment. It was a goose-bumping experience — one I could experience no place else. Saluting God's country at God's University. Brother Hedengren was discussing the source of "numerous perceptions" in Phil 110. Do we experience these warm fuzzy sensations from God, from Satan, or from ourselves? He then related the story of his nine year old daughter bearing her testimony of Heavenly Father. She lost her rabbit and after a few weeks of fervent prayer, a kid in her class at school showed up with a rabbit he had found for show-and-tell. Her rabbit, no doubt. God lives.
HOLY CRAP. Saluting God's country at God's university. If that isn't the creepiest thing I've ever written, right after ALBINO RAINDROPS.
Finally, the one I am most embarrassed over, from February 3, 1994 (that was a particularly bad month for The Crazy):

9:24am Thursday morning. Ooh yeah. I can feel the latent fatigue so eager to rack my body. Calculus is in a half-hour and since I don't know how to use the table of integrals, I'm not going to waste my time nor my paper. I got about four-five hours of sleep last night — after seeing a movie like that sleep doesn't come easy. Philadelphia. Homosexuality and aids. Poignant film, must say. Made me reconsider some of my hard-core conservative bias. These homosexuals with aids — yes, they choose the lifestyle, but not the disease. They, too, are human beings with real human emotion and real human moms and dads. One could say, and I probably would have also, that in choosing the lifestyle they choose the disease. But many of them do not have the protective agent of the gospel in their lives. Many of them genuinely don't know that it's wrong. How can justice be accounted for in these cases? These people are suffering for their wrong choices, but what if in the first case they don't know that it's wrong? How does anyone who is not homosexual know that homosexuals choose to have those tendencies? Yes, it is true that homosexuals can choose not to act on those feelings, but how can they choose the right of a situation they don't know implicates wrong? Homosexuality isn't any worse than blatant fornication, is it? Just because heterosexuality is "natural" doesn't mean that heterosexual promiscuity is justified. Both cases seem equally wrong to me. Karen is coming to Utah on the 28th of this month to stay for a week. I really love Karen. She has been one of my greatest friends. It would hurt me if she was hurt. So many wonder how I can embrace the gospel and return her friendship at the same time. Exactly the way I return all of my other friendships -- cliche, I know, but love the friend, not the sin. If we persecute homosexuals, we are Satan's tools.
No, really. SOMEONE HIT HER. I cannot believe that I actually wrote such bullshit, and this should prove that whenever I make fun of Mormons, I'm just making fun of the Mormon that I was, the ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent who needed a big one up her pooper.
And because I feel so bad about who that person was, I'm just going to go ahead and link to No on Prop 8. Gay marriage has become such an important issue to me, as it should be an important issue to everyone. It's a civil rights issue, period. And the only reason anyone wants to deny homosexuals equal rights is a religious one. PERIOD. Your God says it's a bad thing. But what if my God disagrees? If you take religion out of the equation, THERE IS NO ISSUE. And don't even get me started on the slippery slope end of the argument, because you know the only reason I'm writing this is because I want to legally marry my dogs. Both of them.
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302. Jodi said:
There is a reason I didn't keep my diaries. You just re-inforced that for me.
I cannot believe the thoughts you had. Do they teach that in the Mormon church or was it all "The Crazy" as you call it?
303. Matin said:
I can’t believe you wrote those things, it’s so not like you. That sounds like a great book:-)
I admire you for being so honest and brave about everything, thats what makes you such a great writer.
Ps: I like the 90’s hair:-)
XX M
304. Anonymous said:
I agree with your statement of keeping religion out of it. But homosexuals are not so willing to let that be the case.
Here in Canada there is increasing pressure on religious leaders to perform marriages for gay or lesbian couples. The church was assured (back when we first made it legal) that they would not be forced to do anything against their conscience. Church administrations are now having to take legal actions to protect themselves against just that. If civic weddings were enough for homosexual couples I would say everyone has the freedom to make their own decisions. But, from our experience north of the 50th that doesn't seem to be enough...
305. Amy said:
Yup, those homos, they CHOSE THE GAY.
Seriously, I cringe just thinking about what I must have written in my own journal after my best friend came out to me at the tender, self-righteous of 19. Thanks for sharing, Heather.
306. kitchenbeard said:
THANK YOU for posting the link to No On 8.
307. Dana Pugh said:
I've never commented here...but what you wrote then was eye opening to me. I can't believe that anyone would ever be so...so...naive. Brainwashed and naive. I loved to see the dichotomy of old you vs. today you. It was a gift to see that people do grow and learn and realize that their God isn't necessarily everyone's god.
Then, reading the comments on this...well...holy crap people. How self centered can you be? Remove god indeed. Please do.
A friend of mine who is gay, once said that he knew his mother would be okay with it when, upon hearing a coworker discuss how gay people had chosen their life, she barked back--no one in their right mind would choose to be an outcast.
Thank goodness for critical thinking.
308. Alphafemme said:
Thank you SO much for linking to No on Prop 8. It's so so so scary that it might actually pass. :-( It would be a GIANT step backwards.
And for the record, I think your journal entries show remarkable thoughtfulness, considering your upbringing and surroundings at the time. Good for you. You were actually *willing* to consider that we queers aren't just the devil incarnate! And clearly it was a step in the process towards getting to where you are now.
309. Rbelle said:
That is awesome. I recently read through some old diary entries from high school, college, and beyond, and Oh. My. Gawd. I read a few outloud to my husband because they were so "cute" but the thing that struck me most was how *angsty* they were. Did I really spend that much of my adolescent and college years unhappy? I was so WHINY. If there's one huge, huge benefit to blogs over traditional diary writing, it's that there's the possibility of someone else reading the crap we write - and so we work harder not to make it crap. But man, I've really got to rethink saving my old journals "for my grandkids" because I'm not sure I want them knowing I was such a total nutter.
310. Kimi said:
Oh, Billy!!!!
311. rhea said:
Thank you for being so open as to share your process of change.
It is neato to see the first steps of questioning your strongly held beliefs. Goes to show how youth are but vessels in which us oldies fill with information and 'fact'. And again reminds me how lucky I was that my parents allowed me to be free thinking and provided opportunities to prove it.
312. Kristy said:
I have never understood the, "Well if gay marriage passes, then people will want to marry their dogs, cats, goats, etc." WHAT? As though two human beings can be compared with house pets and farm animals? REALLY? Obviously, I'm the idiot who is missing something. Or at least that's what has been suggested. And the quote above is something that was actually said to me. In my workplace. Sad, but true.
313. Anonymous said:
Thank you Heather! For supporting my friends, myself and my life.
314. Anonymous said:
ibis said exactly what I was going to say: "I think they are actually rather wonderful, with their glimmer of the more enlightened person who would later emerge."
I thought is was very courageous of you to start questioning the things you were taught, especially when you were attending such a fanatically religious college like BYU.
315. Kristen in Canada said:
Ya, gay marriage up here in Canada has totally ruined our economy and our population.
Oh, wait, no it hasn't. It has done nothing but allow everyone regardless of their desires the same fundamental rights. Imagine that.
I'm not gay. I have gay friends. And they're married. THE HORROR.
Religous intolerance boggles my mind. I am so glad that our goverernment has (for the most part) been able to seperate church and state.
Thank you for posting this stuff Heather.
316. Becky said:
Love it. I cringed for you Heather!
#11 & #28 need to run into each other and get sense knocked into them.
317. Lydia said:
Thank you for sharing your mortification...LMAO!
318. Carley said:
You said some very eloquent and important things, but I can't stop marveling at the length and shininess of your hair back then! That is some seriously amazing hair.
319. juneyor said:
Thanks for linking the no on prop 8 page. Thanks for being tolerant. Form one of those people, who some people would like to see burned at the stake. you know cause according to some I am "the gay"
320. Amy said:
Marriage is a religious institution, you can't take religion out of it. There should be civil unions for anyone seeking them. Equal rights under the law.
Marriage should not be a government sanctioned right, nor should it be recognized by the government. Civil unions, common law partners. Separate the church and the state, please.
321. Carol said:
First of all, love you, love your blog.
I have some religious momentos as well....one where I wrote, "Life is all darkness without the light of the church". My mom, of course, saved that. It makes me cringe.
On the other hand, I am 52, married with three grown children. But I have friends that I have known since elementary school.....and they were gay in the 4th grade. They were gay in the 10th grade, and they are gay today, and happily so.
Thankful for your blog, and hopefully people will think about their beliefs from reading your thought.
322. Manda said:
Did your hair have its own solar system? It is really crazy that you are so different now. Did you just change all of a sudden or did it take time? Everyday being more and more tempted by Satan and his awesome coffee!
323. Kathleen said:
My kind, beautiful, wonderful son was born in California sixteen years ago. Since then, we've moved eight times to support his father's military career. Last year our son came out. We are only more proud of him for having the courage to be exactly who he knows he is, inspite of how difficult that can be.
It it hard to remain polite as I once again ask people to please consider allowing my child the same right to civil marriage that their straight children already enjoy. My child is not lesser, not a threat, and worthy of all good things;, as all children are.
He is my child. He is my heart. Please, let the law apply equally to my child and every American.
324. SaraK said:
Most of us thought dumb things in an extremely clear manner when we were younger. Most of us just destroyed the evidence!
Amen, though, on the gay marriage issue. It is such a civil rights issue, but once that conservative Christians embrace as unraveling our social fabric, meaning they get entirely too fanatical and completely irrational. Call it civil union. Give homosexual, committed couples the same societal rights that heterosexual, married couples gain, and get over yourself already. I am Christian, but no one is asking to be married in my church. They are asking for their relationships to be recognized by the STATE and that is absolutely under the realm of civil rights.
325. Keeley said:
Wow, kudos to you for posting this! it takes some serious balls.
it's interesting reading it, although i do not know you personally, you have changed so much. Reading those past diary entries, (to me) it seems as though you're questioning your beliefs.
We all had to start somewhere.
326. carrieb said:
This comment is aimed at the people who have said that they disagree with homosexuality / gay marriage. You say that you have a right to feel that way. Nobody is arguing with you about that. Of course you can think what you want. However, you keep saying that people are being intolerant towards your religious views. The issue at hand here is that NOBODY IS STOPPING YOU FROM LIVING YOUR LIFE TO THE FULLEST with your religious views. That is not the same for gay people.
It's not rocket science here. And what Heather said is true, if you remove religion from it there would be no issue at all.
Further, I'd like to ask those same religious people a question. Who chose your spouse for you? If the answer is that you did, what gives you the right to choose another person's for them?
I'm a lesbian. Have been my whole life. I've been pushed, spat on, kicked out of a bar for sharing an innocent kiss with my girlfriend. I cannot marry my girlfriend in the state of New York because it's illegal. I've been shunned by my parents and certain friends. These acts were done by people who claim to be religious. I say to those people, let those who are without sin cast the first stone.
Homosexuality isn't a choice. Heterosexuality isn't a choice either. Live and let live.
327. Sharon said:
I wish I was that honest in my diaries in that age. I had (have) a mother and sister who would read my diary openly in front of me. Because of this, my diaries began to change from anything worth reading to:
Dear Diary,
Today I went to school. Then I came home and did my homework. It's 10:38 and I have about 15 minutes until I'm going to bed. I'll write more tomorrow.
Love,
Sharon
What I should have written is:
Dear Diary,
My mom keeps yelling for me to clean the house. My sister just busted through my locked and now bent door as she does on a daily basis in order to grab something from my drawer. I'm putting on a smile until I can go to school tomorrow so I can feel comfortable and truly myself as I do only with my friends.
Can't wait to move out,
Sharon
328. Derek said:
That you went from those early diary entries to a passionate "no on 8, no to intolerance" stance in a matter of years gives me hope for my stupid country ... and some of your commenters.
329. Lene said:
Dear god, the hair!
I may admit to writing awful poetry when I was young and idiotic, but there's no way I'd show it to anyone I didn't have similar blackmail material on. I admire your courage.
Maybe I'm in a warm 'n fuzzy mood, but I kind of liked that last entry. Sure, a bit crazy, but the kind of crazy that thins about issues and don't blindly accept what others say. Sweet, in that adolescent, how-were-we-ever this angst-ridden way.
By the way - about the photo today. Why are all the fields west of Denver round? What ARE those things??
330. SAHM: Surviving Assorted Home Mayhem said:
Heather, from a fellow blogger & mommy who happens to reside in CA I want to thank you for linking to No on Prop 8 and for your words. I wrote a post on this very topic last week because it is such a huge issue. Oh, and love the hair and the "God's University" comment was priceless~ HA!
California is too Great for Hate>
331. Amber said:
Was that cascade of hair all the crazy trying to break free?
332. Jenni said:
omg
Almost as bad as an old diary (which always got me grounded when my mother found them) is old poems written in high school.
333. Marissa said:
That quite a head of hair.
334. Robin said:
Heather, Heather, Heather. There you go again stirring up the pot of politics. Seriously, I love your ability to see your own faults, to laugh at yourself, and to take the middle ground. I'm glad you brought up the issue of Prop 8, because in the last week or so, Yes on 8 signs have been popping up like daisies around my neighborhood. I live in San Jose. Not exactly the most conservative corner of the world, so I find this a little surprising. One thing I have noticed though is that each and every one of the several Mormon families in our neighborhood is sporting a Yes on 8 sign. Coincidence? Maybe.
335. Jen said:
Wow - I give that a Cringe Factor 8. It makes my public admission - of mistakenly believing that "Bette Davis Eyes" was sung by Rod Stewart - quite tame.
336. Laurel said:
Thank you for this. From lesbian mother of four-year-old-twins who wishes she had known you when she told her Mormon boss that she was pregnant via artificial insemination by an anonymous donor.
337. Bec said:
Heather- if you open your mind wide enough your brains will simply fall out.
338. Dana said:
That was hysterical and BRAVE!! I will oft remember 'albino raindrops' as I could have written those cringe inducing words myself.
Oh and the hair? Awesome.
339. Curious said:
#127 - Have a beer and relax for Gods sake!
Heather,
How did you get from Super Mormon Girl to the smartass you are today?
340. Laura said:
As a pastor (Clergy for Obama! Whoo!) and a woman, I believe it's EXTREMELY easy for people to take religion out of certain "religious" issues. The idea of the separation between church and state is essential- I don't want government making rules about my church and I sure as hell don't want my church making rules about my government. I'm performing a wedding next weekend and have required that the bride and groom take care of the legal part of the marriage over at City Hall. I'll marry them before God... just like I'm happy to marry men to men and women to women before God. It's not my job to decide who does and does not get insurance benefits, just like it's not the government's job to decide who can and can not declare their love in a covenant before God.
Also, Heather? I'd be damned proud of your last journal entry. Sure, it's full of dangerous presumptions, but as a religious educator, I'd like to point out the beginning questioning of your faith traditions and your growing uncomfortable feelings with everything that you'd assumed before watching that movie. People always say that "once the seed is planted, God allows it to take root," and I think that your entry shows the beginning of your blooming.
341. Anonymous said:
I'm just keen to find out more about Europe becoming more Islamic (224). Since I live here and all.
342. Robin G. said:
Okay, yeah, that was pretty much wretched. Here's to seeing the light! (Or the fiery pit of Satan's evil! Either way!)
I looked back on my own journal entries awhile back, from when I was 16 or so. The level of crazy in them really can't be described.
I hope everyone votes No on Prop 8, as well. Largely because *my* church would very much like to perform gay marriages, and the government saying they can't smells to me like a serious infringement on the separation of church and state. I'd just as soon not have state officials telling my church which ceremonies it can and can't perform, thanks.
343. O No Here We Go Again said:
You are a fantastic writer and I'm sure you are a lovely person... who apparently lives her life with a very blurry dividing line between right and wrong. I can't stand that people like you have a voice that reaches millions. I wonder how many people you have corrupted with your "open minded" value-less thinking. I liked teen age Heather a lot better.
And by the way, my father is a homosexual. He has been with his lover for over 20 years. Every time I look at my dad, and especially his man lover, I wonder if my dad is going to burn in hell because he simply "has to" fornicate with a man. I love my dad.... Hate what he does.
344. Sugee said:
Dang woman, you got some balls. I admire that.
345. DG said:
Wow, brave entry. I've never been a journal keeper, but I think if I did, I would find that I have always been the non-conformist I am today. Just really, really, misinformed and immature.
On the issue of Gay marriage. Marriage is simply a matter of contract law. In the view of the state marriage is not about love, or religion, but rather about financial/civil rights, obligations, and property ownership. Just like you can't stop a person from entering a contract because they're black, Hispanic, a woman, etc., then you can't stop someone from entering the marriage contract based on sex. Now marriage is full of cultural ideological baggage, and means many different things to different people, but legally I think it is a simple contract matter
I get why people feel threatened by the idea of gay marriage, but really, I don't see what the big deal is. I think all people and families are entitled to the same right to express their commitment and legal rights that my husband and I do.
346. HolyFetch said:
wow...
I mean...WOW...
Crazy is as crazy does I guess. And I thought I was messed up from having been raised Mormon in Utah. I'm now thinking that those that were raised Mormon outside of Utah are even MORE crazy after having read that. I mean really, "god's country at god's university" iesh, I wanna stab myself in the eye for having read that.
Thank GOD I found the virtues of beer and have since learned to live my own life
...mmmm beeer...
347. Mattisimo.net said:
That's so funny! I have crazy entries in my journal from when I served a 2-year LDS mission in Brazil. I look back at them now and I laugh at what I wrote. Although my intentions were genuine in the time, like your entries, they were somewhat ignorant and corny.
You're opinion on Prop 8 is so true. If we could just separate CHURCH from State this would not even be an issue. Every religion does what they want with their interpretation of the bible, so why is it all of a sudden an issue now that two people of the same sex, who love each other, want a legal form of commitment?
Thanks for your perspective
348. Robin G. said:
Oh, and kudos to your bravery in opening this one for comments. I'm sure you're not shocked by what you're seeing, but hell, if we can't talk about it, we're never gonna get anywhere.
349. amy boring said:
OK. So maybe today is not a good day to post your link on my favorite blogs to read on the aboringphoto blog. Good stuff round these parts. You are funny as hell. Will post another day.
350. HP said:
Crazy?? Maybe, maybe not.
As we like to say it in the Midwest, you were just "messed up on the Lord"
351. sara said:
Even coco? Dear God, you want to marry coco? I think the crazies have come back. ;)
352. Jodie said:
I was watching the debate last night, when the abortion issue raised it's head. Sometimes I think we have 2 separate species of human living in American. Those with values that both value human life but can imagine very real reasons that having a child isn't the right thing to do AND those who can't tolerate other people having the right to do something they believe is wrong. I'm sure you went from being very intolerant to being tolerant and pro-choice. And I applaud you efforts to change. You grew up. It really doesn't matter what religion one belongs to if you can be firm in your own beliefs. But I'm guessing some religions are way more in your face, like Mormonism, than others. I know there are good people on both sides of the arguments like abortion. That's what makes it such a devisive issue.
Thanks for sharing your views then and now. PS. I loved your hair. It was gorgeous, but I like your hair now too.
353. Walking With Scissors said:
I love when you open your comments. And it's only ever on the posts guaranteed to erupt in a flurry of mad chaos. You are like the puppet master, pulling the strings on everyone just to see them dance...
354. Suze said:
#127 ROB
You're one of those assholes that go to church every Sunday and feel all holy and self-rightous but in reality you're one of the biggest pricks around, right?
For one so snide and derisive you sure seem to know alot about Dooce and must be a frequent reader. Why do you read the blog at all? It must be of some entertainment value, or maybe it makes you think and question what is getting shoved down your throat on a weekly basis.
Heather-ignore this jackass!
355. Desiree said:
If it makes you feel any better: Before I was medicated for my "crazy" (bipolar), I once had enough of a mental snap for a week (during a manic episode) that I was CONVINCED I was a modern day disciple of Jesus. One of his Apostles.
Yeah, I can also remember crying to my Mom and that whole conversation I had with her. Thankfully, it's not on paper.
356. Anonymous said:
341 - Do you know how to use Google? Try this: "Islam growing in Europe" and see how many articles you get. And take into consideration that many many people who identify themselves as Christians couldn't even tell you the first five books of the bible, and haven't gone to church since their baptism day. Islam is growing faster than the population in Europe, and specifically in countries like France and Great Britain. Now imagine if Turkey becomes an official part of the EU? 70 million Muslim Turks will have the freedom to move all over Europe.
If you aren't feeling the Islamification of Europe, you must be totally blind.
357. Kate said:
It was reading that last diary entry that sent a shock wave through me, because it put a face to the struggle of "hate the sin and not the sinner" that many, many people of faith go through every day. It was almost tangible how the confusion and difficulty in watching Philadelphia was for you back then. I typically just laugh off people who try to preach to me that my lifestyle choice is wrong, or even Sarah Palin saying we are "tolerated." However, reading your diary made me realize I should actively work on having more sympathy and patience with these folks because perhaps they might end up someday becoming such a wonderful, supportive voice for the LBGT community such as yourself.
Thank you.
358. Mickelle said:
Hey Heather,
Since I am too lazy to look through all 352 comments this could be your second(or more) invite to this(copied from the invite):
"Utahns against Prop 8"
Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 3:00pm
Location:Squatters Pub Brewery
State Senator Scott McCoy will be our Guest
All,
I am very excited to announce that State Senator Scott McCoy will be our guest speaker at Saturday's Fundraiser Social at Squatter's (The Potting Shed).
There will be a small cost to attend in the form of a $10 suggested donation to cover appetizers. Please RSVP as soon as possible so we can help Squatters (who are waiving thier normal party minimum orders) with our anticipated numbers.
------------------------------------------------------------
My journals growing up were equally mortifying-you are brave to publish yours-love it!
359. Annabelle said:
The fact that it was unclear whether you were witnessing snow or albino raindrops is a peeing the pants moment for me. Hilarious.
Great post, too.
360. Kristy said:
To honor the true genius of comment #127, I think that your next masthead quote should be "Once upon a time there lived a princess..." you truly need to recognize them kinds of smarts when you them.
361. Connie said:
Try not to beat yourself up so much about what you said, thought or did in these journals. You were doing what ALL of us should throughout our lives--examine ourselves and challenge our beliefs.
Socrates: "The unexamined life is not worth living"
Twenty years from now, you'll look back at this blog and cringe here and there, too.
But it's a good thing.
362. Anonymous said:
277 Genelle - extremely well put! I'd read your blog if you had one.
Um, and 356 Anonymous 'feel the Islamification'? I live in Europe too. And you need to feel the effects of resperidol. Seriously, it helps with the crazy talk.
363. April said:
I am glad to see that I am not the only one who wrote crazy stuff when they were younger. Since I am not a mormon and have never been I don't think that it is a mormon thing. For me it was trying to figure out my place in life, and what was right and wrong.
For the longest time I wondered if there was something wrong with me. I am sure there is... I just have not figured it out yet... 15 years later...LOL!
April
364. m said:
My heterosexual domestic partner and I have not married because we believe that the institution of marriage has been desecrated already. Many people who are voting yes on Prop 8 feel that their marriage will be devalued if gays are given the right to marry. This speaks volumes about these people and their insecurity in their marriage.
I can't say "all living things" because I don't know what those crafty dolphins are thinking, but because humans can communicate, they all deserve the same rights. This is about maintenance of equality. This nation would be up in arms if one population were given the right to assault at will and another, not. How is this different than giving heterosexuals the right to marry, while denying gays of that same right?
I am not intolerant of opposing opinions, but this goes beyond "drill for oil for the economy" versus "not drill for oil for the environment." I am intolerant of inequality between humans.
365. Rob said:
Thank you for sharing these, they are funny and more than a bit painful.
As a gay man living with HIV, that last journal entry made me feel kind of mad, but then I looked at the photo and your hair was so amazing all was forgiven. Hate the bigot, love their hair! That's pretty gay, I know.
366. michelle said:
Heather, I swear if we met in real life and not just cyber life that we would be good friends even though we disagree on many things. And I think we would sit for coffee (chai tea latte for me) and respectfully disagree over hot issues, because I have a sense that you could appreciate my opinion (or at least would try) as I can appreciate yours, even though they are different. Also, we’d tell jokes.
Anywho, you said, “Your God says it's a bad thing. But what if my God disagrees?” What if my God said it was okay to murder whoever I wanted however I wanted, but your God didn’t? How do we decide whether or not we can murder? Or do we just decide that if murdering is good for me then I’ll do it, and if it’s bad for you then you won’t do it? I believe that there are absolute truths about certain things, sexuality and murder being two of them.
Hmmm, supporting gay rights is an important issue to me too. I do agree that we should be working to give homosexuals equal rights – respect, joint tax returns, visitation in hospitals, etc. You said, "If you take religion out of the equation, THERE IS NO ISSUE." I also agree with this, but I agree because I don't think marriage (as it's designed, not necessarily as it's practiced) exists separately from religion, so if you take “religion” out of the equation then you are no longer talking about marriage. Because I believe that marriage IS a religious institution and was designed a certain way, I do not support gay marriage. Honestly, I am not sure how I feel about civil unions, but I will think more about it.
I could expound more on all I said, but HELLO?! Long comment!! Thanks always for interesting discussion!
367. Rachel said:
With your hair long like that, you look like Jeri Hall!
Reading those diary entries should make you extra proud of the person you've become. You had to overcome a lot of brainwashing. Did you change gradually or did something happen that snapped you out of it?
368. mslieder said:
Cast out you evil demons!
369. mitzy said:
I went to catholic elementary and high school, and though my parents were very liberal for catholics, college was quite the cultural shock. I was quiet and kept my judgemental thoughts to myself...and then I started to understand more about how being a Christian and being tolerant of different cultures and schools of thought go hand and hand. I am thankful for that realization and all of the people that I got to know becuase of it...I wish I had written more during that transition so that I could look back on that process of growth that is still on-going. Thanks for the post and Way Cool Hair. :)
370. Erin said:
I remember writing entries like these my first couple years at the U of U. It's bizaar for me to think how I took everything the church said to be total and final truth, and then worked my beliefs about homosexuality, fornication, etc. around what the church said in order to make sense of how I felt about it. (And so that "my beliefs" about it were consistent with the "gospel.")
And it's funny how I felt so good and "one" with the church when I was writing it. Like I'd feel like I could go show it to my bishop and say, "Hey! Look at this! Aren't you proud of me!?"
371. k. said:
I read your site daily, and I love love love it. Hilarious. Insightful. And who knew it was so damn easy to make edamame?
I'm glad you let us read your journals from way-back-when. God's university? Weird. Definitely cringe-worthy. But here's the thing I don't get about the comments now:
Isn't your blanket contempt for religious people just a reinvention of the same extreme intolerance you had for gay people in that journal—only this time the intolerance just has a more sophisticated face?
372. Kelli said:
As a fellow Salt Lake resident, I unfortunately know a handful of people like The Crazy. It is amazing how much BS you are saturated in down at BYU. The best part, gosh darn by golly jeepers, is that you got rid of that nappy mane ;)
373. Fleuris said:
OMG WHAT A BACKWARDS PSYCHO YOU USED TO BE. --- What I should've thought when I read this.
OMG WAS THAT REALLY YOUR HAIR?! ---What I was actually fixated on.
In all seriousness, it's great that you shared that. I would cringe for anyone to see my diary entries between 17-22. Yikes. I too was afflicted by "The Crazy".
374. Heather said:
You're awesome. We could have been friends then, and we would definitely be friends now. It's great that some people are able to look back at the person who they once were and laugh at it / learn from it / be embarassed by it, AND share it with us. You're cool.
375. Michelle said:
My response to those that support Prop. 8: If you are against gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person. Unless you are gay, it has nothing to do with you. It is the equivalent of saying that African-Americans can't marry. You cannot help being born gay any more than you can help being born black. Or Hispanic. Or a woman. It's a human rights issue. Period.
I live in CA and I and my husband will both be voting against Prop. 8.
376. Maura said:
Now I know why I didn't keep a journal when I was that age. ;-)
I'm with you 100% on the No on 8 thing. I live in CA and, believe me, I talk about it every chance I get. It would be incredibly wrong if church dollars bought that abomination into being.
377. Fleuris said:
NB:
That said, I understand comment #84's perspective too. Not all religious people are messed, and there is good that comes from faith/spirituality... but not always the unfortunate bureaucracy and exploitation that (often seems to) accompany it.
378. Giovanna Diaries said:
Wow!
At least you had great handwriting!
Imagine if you had a blog back then!
379. Erin Rae said:
Holy Shit!! That's all. Just "holy shit!"
380. Andrea said:
I don't get it. Those who are religious openly and unapologetically judge people who are not EXACTLY LIKE THEM. I don't get it. I'm pretty sure there's something in the Bible about THOU SHALT NOT JUDGE, but hey, let's pick and choose what we believe and how we should act.
Oh, and those letters were effing hilarious. I think I'd died on the spot if anyone ever found my old diary.
381. Tonya said:
Heather, you are the bravest person I know. I can't believe you had the guts to post these. Thanks for the laugh, it brought back some old brainwashed memories of my own.
382. Kate said:
I actually appreciated the homosexuality entry. I liked seeing how hard you were working through your feelings. It humanized Mormons for me, rather than making me mortified that that used to be what you thought. Thanks for sharing.
383. Azar said:
These entries - especially the one about homosexuality - remind me SO MUCH of my attitudes growing up as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Much like you, my attitudes about the world around me have changed dramatically. Kudos to you for putting those diary entries out here for all to read. :)
384. Jill said:
#127, ROB, go troll on someone else site! We love Heather and we're not going to stand for any of that bullshit. Amen!
385. Chrystopher said:
Thank you so very much for being a wonderful ALLY. I couldn't have said it better than "If you take religion out of the equation, there is no issue" My fiance, Robert, and I thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
386. mediumcrazy said:
It actually makes me really hopeful that someone could do such a 180 based on intelligent rational thought, personal growth, and compassion. nice to know people can really change.
also, you're my hero and I'm obsessed with your site, end scene.
387. Holly said:
hooray!! HELL NO on prop 8!! :D
388. Katie said:
I once wrote an entire journal in French because I didn't want my mom to understand what I was writing. I only had three years of French at that point, but 5 years of French later, I went back and read it. It was so embarrassing! Even if she was fluent in French she STILL wouldn't have understood what I has written.
389. Alyxherself said:
Heather you nineties poster girl :)nice Guess jeans :)
I never leave long posts, but I figured fuck it, might as well have my say since that idiot that flamed you way back had his.
One night a couple of weeks ago I decided to get educated on who had an interest in starting the process FIVE years ago to close a miniscule language loophole in the Fl constitution which MIGHT allow for the EVENTUALITY of a measure to allow gay marriage in FL, and found an personal injury attorney from Orlando who was the sole executive of the PAC that developed the proposal. He's also a member and mover in some other fundamentalist groups, which I won't call religious because to me religion means love, not fear and control. He wrote it all by himself, someone's prideful eh?
I found an email address online and wrote him a personal letter, I thought he should know who he was bigoted against:
Mr. Stemberger
I am writing to tell you how much your actions have personally hurt me. That at this moment I am suffering from severe emotional distress due to your one man war on my human rights and my freedoms, for which my father, Uncle, and Grandfather et al, going back before the Revolution fought and gave their lives.
The thought that as I went about my life as a citizen, unbeknownst to me, another free citizen has been quietly going about the business of stripping my rights from me is horrific. And in the name of God, no less.
Unconscionable that you would spend the life God gave you attempting to control others with legal shenanigans and vaguely worded proposals "financial impact would be minor", how do you have any idea of what the impact you are proposing would be, Jim Crow? You have no idea whatsoever. I'm no attorney but I can critically think to the level that financial impact on the dissolution of all legal arrangements in this state affected by Prop 2 retro-actively would be major.
So No on Two, fellow Native Floridian.
Now, I'm going to walk into the other room and watch TV with my significant other. Someone who has loved and supported me for almost four years, someone who accepts me for who I am, and loves me the way everyone should feel love. Someone for whom her faith, and the God whose work you feel you do, has carried her through tough times like you should pray never to see. And because of faith I will forgive you. But remember, as stated clearly in Matthew Chapter 7, those that set themselves to Judge will one day feel that Judgment before God. You better be able to explain your way out of this one, buddy.
He didn't write me back :(
Keep going, Heather...good on you, girl. I was once homophobic myself. It's called fear.
390. lizzie said:
The last entry seems more like you were beginning to really grapple with the inconsistencies you were seeing in your church's doctrine. You seemed to me like what you believed in your heart (kindness and acceptance) was fighting with what you had been taught. As for the crazies-trying to reconcile what you know is right with what you've been taught and yet know is wrong will make you crazy. Especially if you love the people that taught you.
391. ...love Maegan said:
O-mg ...that HAIR...I'm going back to read it now.
392. EricaB said:
I am SO thankful I didn't keep a diary in my teenage years....oh the angst...or not.
You were certainly one with the words, huh? Did you use a thesaurus when writing in your diary?
393. Éireen said:
And No on Prop 102 in Arizona:
http://votenoprop102.com/web/index.php
394. Leesa said:
Freakishly Familiar.
I am so glad there are other MoMos who have come to their senses.
Growing up Mormon was very strange to say the least. It was sufficating, and made me feel like a sheep. Just going along with the herd.
Okay, I have to share this. Because only a few of us can truely appreciate this story. I just returned from my 20 year HS reunion. An old church friend of mine came up to me to tell me about her brother Steve (in high school he was a long hair pot smoking surfer) In summer of 1989 I returned from Ricks college, and Steve returned from a Mission. I still infactuated with the pot smoking surfer he once was agreed to go out with him. He was very sweet, but a little kooky! After about 4 weeks of dating he tells me his mission president told him to quit surfing because the devil lived in the water, and that he needed to go home and get married. And then it happened, I thought we were having fun, he thought we were getting serious. He asked me to marry him. I told him that at 19 I was not ready to make that kind of commitment, but I still wanted to have fun and date him. He broke up with me. All my chruch friends thought I was crazy not to marry this handsome, reformed surfer. I felt rather smart. I heard that 6 monthes later he found his bride at Ricks college.
Here's the part that's funny. Back to me and Kathy at our reunion. So she comes up and says I want to give you an update on what my brother's doing. So "steve and his lovely wife and their 8 or 10 kids moved to utah and are polygamists. Well actually, they are trying to be polyamists, none of the other polygamists will allow their daughters to marry Steve." (he's worse than a polyamist, he's a wanna be polygamist) After this incredibly strange story, she says "You really dodged a bullet". F*#king A I dodged a bullet.
395. Laura B.B. said:
# 366 - I'm not sure I understand your point...that society wouldn't be capable of discerning that murder is bad without the help of religion, so we need religion to remind us that gay people shouldn't get married because it's bad for...who exactly?
Murder = death, loss, pain, destruction. Gay marriage = pissing off fundamentalist Christians. I really don't see how these things compare.
Like homosexuality, eating shellfish is also considered an abomination in the bible. Does this mean there is an absolute truth to seafood too?
396. Vail said:
"A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave." - Ghandi
Heather, you are brave. Enough said.
397. ...love Maegan said:
okay, this: "The only opinion that counts is that of God. All else is foolish" ...is my favorite line so far.
398. Anonymous said:
lovin the 90s hair and jeans! lol
399. Dorothy Stahlnecker said:
I am so glad I read this..I have a 20 year old granddaughter who sounds just like you were...This gives me such hope that Kala may be alright someday...She is so confused I can hardly think of how to help her.. So now I think we should just let it all work out with time and life. I blog about the girls from time to tome and my heart is always heavy wondering if I'm too hard on them worrying about their future and Heather look where you are today... so....
From my heart to yours; thanks for sharing I feel such hope for my granddaughters now.. and...your
Being so brave and letting us have a glimpse into your past..and seeing this wonderful mom, friend and person and who she is now..
My very best to you...
Dorothy from grammology
http:grammology.com
400. Courtney said:
Reading this makes me feel less bad about how crazy I was in high school. Thank God I went to a big liberal university and learned the error of my ways!
401. Suzanne said:
While I often do not agree with you politically or religiously, I have not once belittled you or your beliefs on my blog or otherwise. The close-minded, intolerant attitude that you attribute to those of the Christian faith is, ironically, apparent in your own attitude towards Christians, implying that we are merely blind followers of a nonsensical faith--and in today's post you go so far as to imply that we are mentally ill! You can't seriously think that you are being "subtle" with a post such as this?! But of course you and some of your commenters will brush off comments like mine as "there's another one of those thin-skinned, projecting, Christians!" I have read your blog for years but for some reason you and Jon both recently have seemed to step up the level of Christian-bashing in your blogs. This is coming across as arrogance and it really is not a pleasure to visit your little corners of the universe no longer. So, sadly, it's now time to for me to say goodbye. I really enjoy your writing and can't count the number of times I've laughed out loud reading your blog. But I do not like the edge your writing has taken on lately. I apologize for my tone here, I really do wish you and your charming family the best, but life is short, bandwidth is cheap, so off I go to other blogs that will make me smile--but not at anyone else's expense.
~Suzanne
402. Anonymous said:
"Of equality -
As if it harm'd me, giving others the same chances and rights as myself -
As if it were not indispensable to my own rights that others possess the same."
- Walt Whitman
"When the Nazis came for the Communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a Communist.
When they locked up the Social Democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a Social Democrat.
When they came for the Trade Unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Trade Unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
it was silent.
There was no one left to speak out."
- Pastor Martin Niemöller
403. Anonymous said:
Hey there,
I'm a dem reluctantly voting for McCain. And I've had the pleasure of reading your political posts recently. Now the bells are going off. NO WONDER. I had NO IDEA that you were like this, and came from this background! Wow! Well you have turned into an impressive woman.
Well, as this relates to politics. I am trying to change the vote of most Obama supporters to McCain. It aint easy I might add. But I am trying. But you? With your background. You NEED to vote for Obama! Go Obama! After writing those crazy things about homosexuals to have become the woman you are today - well, you just rock.
404. Susanne said:
Back in the mid 80s I went to a southern baptist school in El Paso for 7th and 8th grade. I distinctly remember being told in our weekly Bible study by a guest speaker that "AIDS was designed in heaven by God." Back then I thought who wants to worship a God that is like THAT? Now I consider myself an atheist, but it took a lot of years and a lot of self-discovery to come to this understanding of myself. AND in doing so have realized that not only am I a "tolerant" person, I am a fighter for equal rights. Every ounce of my being agrees with you. So, GO NO ON PROP 8!!!
405. ac said:
All I could really think, was wow -- this is so well written compared to what I see people that age write today on their myspaces and facebook pages. ZOMGLOL!11! :)
406. Nathan Pralle said:
It is truly amazing how much we can change our thoughts, opinions, and beliefs just over the span of a few years. I was the best of conservative Lutheran bible bashers in my younger years, until I came to the age of rationality, and now I regularly cringe to think of myself back then. More than once have I sat here and gone, "Ok -- A) how do I try to tell someone as deep as I was in that crap that they're wrong, and B) how do I keep my son from finding himself in the same position someday?"
It's thoughts like these that keep me on edge as a parent. Some things kids will just have to learn on their own, and there's NOTHING I can do to make them do so, but help me if I don't try my best to give them something better than I got.
Don't feel too bad, Heather. You grew and dug your way out of it. Feel bad for those who never do; they're the ones who are disillusioned and don't even know it.
407. Caitlin said:
I want to marry my dog, too!
408. Victor said:
Great, you'll marry Coco, she'll have 8 puppies and then you'll start claiming welfare and leaching on the system...this is what the slippery slope argument is all about! What we don't need to continue the rending of the moral fabric of this country is another damned Jerry Springer hour featuring a bunch of welfare moms crying about their "puppy daddies". ;-)
409. Stephanie said:
I went to lunch with three co-workers and one of them proceeded to tell me that his CHURCH told him that if he wanted to vote AGAINST proposition 8, he should vote YES. He said that he was told there was some weird wording in the proposition and if you voted NO, you'd actually be voting FOR IT.
I said, "Your CHURCH told you this?! How IRONIC!"
Great topic. Love the comments. Too bad reading all of them only took up an hour of my day.
410. Ellen from Ireland said:
Wow, what hair. Fabulous!!! What can I say. My daughter is not a Mormon but she IS gay!! People are people and we do change.
Thank God. Or WHOEVER!!!!
Love your blog. Makes me wake up!! even at night.
411. Morgan said:
Couldn't agree more...the BYU flag raising is one of the creepiest things. Once while ignoring the people with their hands over their hearts, a friend said to me "Only us and the Russians do this." So then on top of feeling creepy, I felt guilty for laughing during the national anthem.
Nice shout out for Prop 8 as well. This is 100% a civil rights issue...keep up the good fight.
412. Bishop Rick said:
Great post, Heather. It made me think of re-reading my missionary journal a bit ago. You see, I realized the church was BS while I was on my mission. The beginning of the journal was all about being full of the spirit and contending with the evils of the world. The end reads like Penthouse forum letter. It cracks me up every time I read it.
Anyhoo, it seems to me that the church and other proponents of Prop. 8, could do more to protect the institution of marriage if they were to focus their attentions on preventing divorce rather than preventing a segment of the population from being able to marry. Statistically speaking, divorce is ultimately more destructive to children and families than gay marriage will ever be. Just a thought.
Keep up the great work.
413. Beaner said:
Hey Heather - good thing we get better with age, huh? I feel the same way. Funny you should bring it up - we had a Mormon couple drop by our neighborhood here in Southern California. They wanted a signature in support of "8". Like most religions, (I'm a recovering Catholic and I know they're pushing it too) I would guess they're heavily influenced by that whole non-profit, tax-exempt business potentially being placed in jeopardy. You know, when it hits the collection basket..... What's Christian about inequality? Nothing! I personally have strayed from organized religion because they want you to check your brain at the door and sit idly as they pass judgment on things "Christians" shouldn't be judging at all. Live and let live baby!
414. Jen said:
In response to #122: I think Colbert was actually a paraphrase of the late Gov. Thomas Ford and should have read:
"So if we allow plural marriage, what's to prevent Joseph Smith from sneaking into my house while I'm asleep and just marrying all my daughters?"
415. Nat said:
This post made me happy because it shows just how much people can change. You were never a "hate the gays" type but comparing your views in 1994 to your views now gives me hope that at some point, "gay" won't be a synonym for "stupid."
416. BadPxy said:
Wow.
I always felt like I knew where you were coming from on the whole religion thing, but wow. (Southern Baptist rather than Mormon, but the end result is similar.)
I could have written that. Thank god I have lost the diaries from that time in my life.
I admire you so much for posting this. I couldn't possibly be so objective about that person-who-used-to-be-me. I hate her far too much to be able to poke fun at her.
But hey, I just turned 27 -- let's give it another seven years, eh?
417. Searching for the Yeti said:
thaaaaaaat's pretty much amazing.
418. phhhst said:
I think you should send me a free copy. I'll put it in the library of my 10th grade English class and the kids will market for you word of mouth. Go Ask ALice is ALWAYS checked out.
419. Tammy said:
You're gonna marry your dogs? Are you sure you're not a Californian?
Hey - don't forget it's not just election season, it's National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Get your mammograms. Three generations of my family walked 60 miles to raise $14k to fight breast cancer - check it out:
420. Siobhan said:
There;s nothing like reading your old diaries (or worse, poetry) to make you cringe and think, "Thank GOD I'm not that person anymore."
How did we stand ourselves? No wonder our parents were so grumpy.
I f Sarah decides to do a second Volume, I've got some Depressing Teenage Poetry I could dig up.
421. Heather said:
ALBINO RAIN DROPS? LOLOL, I barely even understand the connection. You crack me up.
422. jannie said:
I wonder in 20 or 30 or 40 years when you read back on stuff you wrote on this blog will you say "I can't believe I wrote such bullshit."
Not to say that your blog is bullshit, but it is funny how different stages of life reveal new perspectives.
Gotta go now - blatant fornication awaits.
423. Nicole.Geiger said:
That was fantastic, thank you so much for sharing! When I look back on old poems and journal entries from middle to high school, I'm plagued with the most emotastic literature ever created. I was utterly depressing; its no wonder I didn't have any friends!
But that is the beauty of life, right? You live and grow and become something new and amazing. Personal change is so completely rewarding and, really, it saddens me when people don't embrace such growth.
I find it amazing that any person can go through such an awakening. Whether it be by questioning old beliefs or adopting completely new ones, by shaking off religion or finding a God of sorts.
You can only do what is right by you. And what you are doing? Well, I think its fantastic.
424. melissa said:
Hi Heather,
I'm really curious about how you went from your super-conservative upbringing to where you are now. You must have had a lot of courage and strength to challenge a lot of the fundamental beliefs you grew up around. It seems like the great majority of people in your former situation don't make it that far.
Don't be embarrassed - Those writings go to show that you were questioning what you were raised with and that is hard to do. You are brave to post those though!
Write more about how you made the transition from Mormon to where you are now.
425. Gillian said:
How did you come so far? Really, how does one change their opinion on SO MANY THINGS in such a short period of time? What caused your paradigm shift?
426. Jannie said:
Shit, got my own URL wrong up there. More beer.
P.S. Be good to this planet,
it's the only one with beer.
427. Heather said:
I have mormon neighbors that have a Yes On 8 sign in their yard and I think it really needs to be removed under the cover of darkness. I am hoping my NO ON 8 and Obama signs show up today! Thanks for this post, even if you had to humiliate yourself to make your point. Well done!
428. Kristina said:
Oh wow. This weirded me out because it sounds exactly like the crap I wrote in high school, for real. Subtract the lord, and add some race and ihatemybody in there, and I'd have to sue for invasion of privacy.
But I have to say that even for an "ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent" your first response was love, rather than fear or hate - your first impulse is to love the person, and I think that's a lot, because lord knows there are so many people out there purportedly doing god's work who reach to hate when it's not necessary, uncalled for, or you know, against what Jesus himself preached. I would take folks so much more seriously if they practiced what they preached, but noooooooo. Yeah, I don't know you personally, but even with the filtering and screening going on in this blog, you seem like a good person. So I wouldn't be too hard on myself if I were you, because it looks to me like your heart was in the right place.
429. Jennifer said:
Thanks, Heather.
Enlightening. And good to know that just because adolescents think these things doesn't mean we can't win them back to the side of logic. Or at least Satan. ;)
430. Melessa said:
You really called BYU "God's University" when you were a member? You? I can't imagine it of you, even a younger more believing version of you. For some reason, that really cracked me up today. Then again, I joined the church as an adult and have a skewed perspective. I remember attending R.S. in Provo just after my mission (born and raised in Oklahoma) and having to choke back giggles when the lady conducting said "And of course there was beautiful weather for graduation. It is 'God's university.'" And she was serious. Yikes!
I've always been pro-gay and sometimes I think I'm only in the church so the youth will have an adult they can talk to honestly. I'd say your blog was my secret guilty pleasure, but with a feed-reader on my sidebar; it's no secret.
431. Logan said:
I can't state my feelings and opinions on Prop 8 any better than my father did in an email exchange between the two of us. He has given me his permission to copy and paste his comments...
I am a Board-certified Obstetrician-Gynecologist, and I have done considerable research into the topic of homosexuality. I am also a faithful member of the Mormon church and have served as a Bishop. During that service I have dealt with a number of homosexual young people of both sexes. I have loved them dearly. Here are my comments:
It is false to claim that homosexuals are being denied "equal rights." The U.S. - and other governments - have accorded heterosexual marriage official recognition, approval, and legal benefits for one reason and one reason only: Heterosexual marriage has clearly demonstrated over millennia of human experience that it is a very positive institution conferring great advantages to society! Therefore governments enact laws and policies for the purpose of encouraging and supporting an institution that has proven its worth.
Homosexual coupling has in no way demonstrated this benefit to society. Not by a long shot. In other words, heterosexual marriage has earned it's place of prominence and acceptance in society. It has earned its rewards! Those who support homosexual marriage want the same societal recognition and rewards without ever having earned them! This is not equal treatment, this is discriminatory special treatment!
If homosexual couples wish to live together, fine. Let them do so for a few hundred years - a few generations of observation and societal experience and evaluation - and then let's talk about equal treatment! This is not an unrealistic demand. Heterosexual marriage displayed its advantages and benefits far longer than that before it was accorded legal governmental recognition and reward.
Homosexuality as a principle and practice offers absolutely no benefit or value to society. Note, this does not mean that there aren't fine, wonderful homosexual people out there. There most certainly are. But allow me to offer an analogy: I am a diabetic. I think I'm a reasonably good person in many ways. I didn't ask to be diabetic. And there is certainly a genetic component to my diabetes.
But I am honest enough to openly admit that diabetes itself offers nothing of value or benefit to society. It should not be celebrated or blithely accepted.
Likewise, homosexuality offers absolutely no value or benefit to society. It is a reproductive dead end. And there are voluminous studies that clearly demonstrate a large magnitude of societal ills and miseries trailing in the wake of homosexuality.
Major depression and suicide rates are significantly higher in a homosexual population. STD rates are significantly higher in homosexual populations. Reckless and high-risk behaviors of all kinds are significantly more common particularly in male homosexual populations. Sexual promiscuity is significantly more common among male homosexual populations. Drug abuse - especially methamphetamine abuse - is much more common among homosexual populations.
It's simply not a benign practice.
Many homosexuals claim that "God made me this way." If the inference is that homosexuality is genetically determined, my response is that there are NO reliable, quality scientific studies or evidence to support this. There simply isn't. Every claim to that effect is merely anecdotal.
Even if there were such evidence...
We know that alcoholism and diabetes have a strong genetic component - but we don't celebrate or support alcoholism or diabetes!
Plus, I'm old enough to remember the beginnings of the gay and lesbian movement. Initially their contention was, "Homosexuality is my choice. And my choice is just as valid as your choice!" That was their mantra.
But then an inconvenient thing happened: AIDS - which was first discovered in the gay population, and to this day remains much more prevalent in the gay population. Suddenly it was apparent to everyone that "their choice" wasn't all that valid after all.
But then, the mantra suddenly changed. It was only then that homosexual activists began to claim that homosexuality was biologically determined. How convenient.
And here's the other interesting aspect of it all: If homosexuality is biologically determined, then the obvious implication is that we should be able to find a biological or genetic cure! And we should be devoting research to correcting this genetic anomaly - because that's exactly what it would be classified as! We devote considerable resources to correct every other genetic anomaly we know of. But homosexuals are very resistant to any attempts to correct this condition.
So, they don't want it to be a choice anymore. They want it to be a genetic anomaly. But then they don't want society or medical science to make any efforts to correct the anomaly.
Let's apply some logic to this conundrum, again using my diabetes as an example: If I were to resist any and all efforts to find a permanent cure for diabetes, then it would be the equivalent of me choosing to be diabetic - and choosing to increase the risk of my posterity being diabetic.
So, bottom line: I have known and dearly loved a number of homosexual individuals. But I cannot support or champion the cause of accepting homosexuality. It is simply not a good thing.
432. Jer said:
Heather, I love your site and love to read what you write.....but when I read your old journal entries, I was instantly reminded of my ex-best friend, who thinks and writes like that NOW. It's kind of the reverse. She started out pretty normal, not overly religious despite her strict upbringing. Then one day, poof! Just as you called yourself, she's become "the ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent who needed a big one up her pooper."
Except she's 31.
433. Catherine said:
Hey Heather. On the off chance that you read the 400-somethingth comment....
Just so you know, regarding your last graf, if we are being P.C., "homosexual" isn't really a word we're supposed to be using anymore. It's associated with when homosexuality was classified as a psychological disorder, and the appropriate term nowadays is ''gay."
(GLAAD media kit: http://www.glaad.org/media/guide/glossary.php)
*this moment has been brought to you by my PC-ier-than-thou J-school which frequently brings in LGBTQ experts to remind us of these facts.
Also, fabulous Rapunzel hair, and I have to mention, I covet your handwriting like the baddest little sinner around.
434. jessica said:
Actually, Heather, I think you're being a little hard on yourself. Between the 1st and 3rd entries you posted, I see a change -- because by entry #3, you are actually questioning things, not just swallowing it whole. I don't see anything -- ANYTHING -- crazy about a young woman having questions like you had in entry #3. Note that you never really came out and said that the HIV people deserved it -- you simply questioned and reflected on whether or not that rationale was right. And from the way I read it, it sounds like you KNEW that it wasn't.
435. Sheila said:
Hey Heather, We all say pretty dumb things when we are young and ignorant but most of us get there in the end. Not sure about you committing dogamy though!
436. Susan said:
BTW, nice mom jeans!
437. Anonymous said:
Comment #28 Eouio, Your comment should embarrass you. It really reveals your ignorance. And, according to the last line of that comment, if homosexuals should have "equal rights to those suffering from a mental disorder," they would still have the right to marry. So I guess you're voting No on Prop 8, too? How liberal of you.
438. Mignon said:
I like how you made The Crazy sound just like The Reasonable. Reminds me somehow of the scene from the Sweet Emotion video where that huge, nasty lady was ironing clothes and being a phone sex operator at the same time.
439. Katai said:
In defense of teenage you, you stuck by your friend, religious muddleheadedness be damned. If that's not a good person, I don't know what is.
440. Cara said:
http://www.fairnessforallfamilies.org/
If you live in Florida vote NO on #2 so domestic partners both gay and straight don't loose their rights!!
Thank GOD I never kept a diary!!!!! How brave of you to share it with the world. :)
441. Anna in Portland said:
Holy shit. You've changed.
Thanks be to God's university.
442. Susan Scarbrough said:
At least your hair was really pretty.
443. Lisa said:
Number 431 says: "Major depression and suicide rates are significantly higher in a homosexual population. STD rates are significantly higher in homosexual populations. Reckless and high-risk behaviors of all kinds are significantly more common particularly in male homosexual populations..."
Uhhh...gee, it seems reasonable to me that if you belonged to a population that was regularly discrimination against, you'd be more likely to be depressed and suicidal, which often leads to reckless and high-risk behavior. Doesn't take a doctor to figure that out.
SCARY!
P.S. Heather, you rock my world.
444. bonzai said:
Kristin #11 - It's not intolerant of us to want to remove religion from the equation. This country was founded on the separation of church and state. Removing religion from the marriage equation is the same - removing religion from the legal basis of marriage. Your faith is important to you, and many others, but that doesn't mean it can be the basis, in this country, on decisions of who is equal under the law.
445. eddeaux said:
Heather I feel like one of your family members, but I'm not a Mormon, just someone who believes that there is a God and the last thing I want to do is take him out of the equation. I feel like you are one of those people who is about to run into a mine field and despite the fact that everyone is shouting, "Heather, watch out!" You are too busy humming your own tune to listen. You laugh and wave and smile oblivious of the danger around you.
It hurts my heart because I love you and it hurts because I know in your heart of hearts you truly believe you are doing so much good.
I do, however, believe those journal entries are insane.
446. Joey said:
You've given me hope that people, even shout-y angry McCain supporters who are fond of the words "terrorist" and "kill him" can change. Maybe. Anything's possibly. PRAISE THE LORD.
447. Anonymous said:
You seem to me to be just as self-righteous about your "evolved" self as you were as your "mormon" self. Instead of those gay people that you were looking down on, now you are looking down on mormons or other religious folk. It's easy to see that the same person who wrote those diaries at 19 is the same person who writes this blog today. You are someone who wants to excel in whatever you are into at the moment, whether it is in your mormonism or your modernism.
448. Heidi said:
Albino Raindrops are clearly the Mormon equivalent of Chocolate Rain.
449. Anonymous said:
i am totally stealing from gr8prop8deb8.blogspot.com - these words were written by nate:
...just because a law promotes a view that is hostile to a particular point of view of a religion does not mean that it violates the principles of religious freedom. I, for one, freely admit that government tolerance of homosexuality and the sanctioning of same-sex relationships pose problems for the promotion of LDS doctrine. It becomes harder for a church to preach that a certain behavior is a sin when the state endorses that behavior. One can envision all sorts of practical problems from proselytizing to record keeping that the Church suffers because of same-sex marriage. However, these problems do not necessarily mean that religious freedom is implicated.
450. Laura said:
That girl's writing and your writing today...this cannot be the same person. Does not compute.
451. Linda Atkins said:
Yep, people voting on other people's civil rights is creepy (at the very least). Right now it might be those other people's civil rights hanging in the balance, but what if yours are next?
452. Candace said:
I go to the daily chuck every day because I am amazed at what you can make chuck do. I have 2 dogs, my husky/greyhound likes to lay around all day (that took 5 years to accomplish). And I just adopted a german shorthair mix and, oh my god, she cannot sit still for a second. It is nice to know others share my pain.
And I think all college freshman go insane with the power of knowing everything.
453. bohica said:
@127;
I don't believe this has to do with religion ruining her life as much as it does to do with her living this immense universal teenage ANGST ...
Get a grip, would you?
Heather, it's awesome. I love it.
The Crazy is there, no doubt, but so is the desperation to figure out a way to write it all down.
454. susan said:
You made me laugh with this one. I was once ultra-conservative too in high school – actually performed in one of those retarded Christian musicals that my church sent on tour. (shiver) Look at how you've evolved and changed! Did the dogma disappear about the same time the hair did? I've met so many people who think once you've been down that road there's no turning back, but many of us wake up at some point and realize it's okay to be human and vulnerable like everyone else.
I love the way you just don't edit yourself. Too damn funny.
455. amanda said:
brava heather! we will all lose more than we know if this amendment passes.
456. Dork du Soleil said:
I think I have high school photos of myself looking exactly like you. Remember when they made shirts that snapped at the crotch? That style was worthless. They always gave you a huge wedgie and pantie line, but at least your shirt never came untucked!
457. mc said:
Heather I love your blog. I'm a newish reader so perhaps you have already addressed this question but......What made you change so dramatically from the person you were who wrote those diary entries years ago?
Such an about face. ( for the better... Although just as passionate! )
458. Kathy said:
You have exactly the kind of hair I wanted in high school. Mine grew out rather than down.
I hear ya' on the embarrassing journal entries. I've destroyed most of mine, but what's left is frightening.
459. Sylvia said:
I feel that you use your site as a form of therapy. After reading this post, I imagined myself in a chair nodding while you lay on a couch across from me.
460. Catherine said:
Ha-Ha! Nice hair! I love it. I looked the same way. I haven't read your entries yet, I can't get past the HAIR. Speaking for myself, it sure would be nice to be that thin again.
461. Krista said:
Have you seen "Religulous" yet? It's terrifying and brilliant and will hopefully change minds on the importance/relavance/reality of the negative religious impact on our world.
462. Catherine said:
HahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahA-HA! (continued from my previous comment)
HEATHER! Is this FOR REALS? You are killing me. Seriously, I need to laugh and you totally delivered. This can't be real, right?
463. Capree said:
Holy Shit...! I went to BYU (and hated every second of it) and was appalled by most people there. I remember that national anthem thing as being one of the creepiest things on a long list of creepy things about BYU. All the "sheeple" would just freeze in place and put their hands over their hearts, facing whatever direction they happened to stop. Oh man... I think my freshman year I was of a similar mindset, though (only because I had just been freshly released from under the iron thumb of my zealot parents). Since then I've been on my own journey of self discovery and I think you and I have come to some similar conclusions.
And I agree, No on 8!
464. Laura said:
Remind me to never let # 431 anywhere near my poon.
Dude, diabetes is a destructive disease. Homosexuality is the tendency to be sexually attracted towards people of the same gender. They're hardly comparable.
"And there are voluminous studies that clearly demonstrate a large magnitude of societal ills and miseries trailing in the wake of homosexuality."
a - I could quote back to you equally voluminous studies reporting the exact opposite.
b - Because no societal ills and miseries trail in the wake of heterosexuality? Societal ills trail HUMANITY man. They aren't specific to a particular group.
Also, lesbians have the lowest occurance of STDs of any segment of the population. Comment #443 offers another excellent point here.
"Therefore governments enact laws and policies for the purpose of encouraging and supporting an institution that has proven its worth."
Like they did with slavery, right?
And hey, if you're looking for the cure for homosexuality, you should know that there's a biological basis for differing skin tones. You could try to find a cure for being brown-skinned too, especially since you could probably shoe-horn the exact same bigoted arguments you're using against homosexuality into that discourse.
And you're a doctor? My god.
465. CC said:
Heather, you are incredibly brave and deserve unending praise for making that entry public. It's obvious you have evolved (!!) quite a lot since then. I'm not sure I would even have the guts to read over the tomes of embarrassment that must be my diaries from 20 or so years ago. We need more brave chickies like you that really set the bar and the spirit of sharing in our brave new 2.0 world!
466. Brett said:
Heather I love you more each day. As one of your many gay followers I am so happy to see you link to "no on prop 8". My partner and I have been together nearly 10 years, and it would be so amazing to have our relationship recognized by the state (we live in Utah, so I don't see that happening any time soon). Your blog is a daily reminder that love and tolerance are the best attributes to have.
Brett
467. Leah said:
I actually think the third entry is pretty nice. You were using your heart and mind and really *questioning* yourself and your biases and really trying to *understand* and not rely on the knee-jerk beliefs of your past. Dunno, think you're being a little hard on yourself. I like who you were in that one.
468. The Alleged Ringleader said:
Heather,
As much joy I got out of laughing at the Mormon you were, the real issue is Prop 8 here in California. It's such an important issue and we as Californians are such a great free-thinking and mostly liberal bunch of people. I don't understand HOW this race is so close!! The YES on Prop 8 assholes have been FLOODING the radio and tv stations with the most ridiculous ads telling people that they will be persecuted for their views of THINKING if this prop doesn't pass. There are signs on the offramps up and down the 405 freeway. It's unbelievable! The "yes" campaign got a serious push and things are not looking good.
I will be ashamed and embarrassed if this get's passed in California. Everyone deserves these basic HUMAN rights and thank you for drawing attention to it!
469. Jen said:
I (willingly) went to a McCain rally in 2000. It's good to know we are able to overcome our own stupidity.
470. Zenmomma said:
You are VERY brave to print these old journal entries AND to give such honest commentary. I myself was a born-again teenager, going door to door with the "good news of our lord Jesus Christ."
Luckily, I got better.
471. Megan said:
Good for you for evolving as a person. I don't think your diary entries are insane. I think they show the mind of a person who was born and brought up in a restrictive, conservative religion and who was questioning what she had been taught. Your intelligence comes through the conservative blabber.
472. cara said:
I agree with Ibis... I think this shows the good person you WERE not the AWFUL one... you were always a good person- just being made to feel that all that GOOD was WRONG...
You escaped, and I think you should be PROUD that in all that brutal religious crap- you still thought independently, and you questioned what most "followers" dont. For that I commend you.
The god's country/god's university stuff is hilarious though.. really. awesome.
also- did brother henfeneed(or whatever his name was) ever get to the bottom of that warm fuzzy issue? I will strike down, with the great fury and anger that can only come from a short, loud, italian/irish new yorker, anyone that claims feeling HAPPY and GOOD and FULL OF LIFE AND HOPE is the work of Satan. It CLEARLY comes from a greater force in our world- Captain Morgan or champagne. duh.
473. Summer said:
Oh Heather! I too have a journal that mortifies me! I have poems and journals all about God and Satan and how I know I am unworthy and a sinner and will I ever be forgiven in Gods eyes because I dry humped a boy?
Tell you what (and I'm sure you agree), the life of a heathen is so much simpler.
474. Felicia said:
THANK YOU, I've been trying to say that gay rights = human rights forever now. That is one of the reasons I cannot vote for either Obama or McCain.
475. ALiberalConservative said:
Thank you, Heather! You make me laugh and think all at the same time! *What a concept* Keep doing what you do.
So much to say, but we're on comment four-hundred-something already (and I've read them all!).
I must comment @ 431 - What an astonishing example of brainwashing masquerading as logic. Generations of brainwashing.
Frightening.
People. Please do better for your own children.
And bring on the puppy love. What the world needs now is love. And puppy breath.
476. Women's Fat Loss and Arm Toning said:
It is amazing to see how talented a writer you were back then. Same style. Same expressions. Different beliefs. This was a great thing to publish - thank you!
477. IrishGumbo said:
Holy smokes! Heather, or Madonna?
"Nothing noble is done without risk" - Michel de Montaigne
Many years ago, I had a similar experience upon reading some things I had written as a dumbass redneck cracker. The racist, hateful, IGNORANT things I wrote shame me to this day. In a fit of deep disgust and embarrassment, I soaked all the pages I could find in a tub of water (to blur the ink)and then ripped up the sodden mess before throwing it away. I felt sick.
The upside of it all was the enlightenment I was blessed to receive: For too long, I had let other people do the thinking for me, I was too lazy to challenge them, and I didn't know I needed to challenge what I was told. It was a day that I woke up and started making decisions based on the evidence of my senses. The world was not what I was led to believe.
Once I determined to start thinking for myself, the world was BETTER than I previously believed. And I was no longer beholden to others for my beliefs.
That was some of the bravest writing I have read in a long time! The progression is there and it is a wonderful thing to realize that what you thought may not be true, BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE THOUGHT IT FOR YOU. To examine yourself, to criticize yourself, to not be afraid to acknowledge one's misconceptions, is a priceless part of being human.
Let me be the first to volunteer for Your Majesty's Royal Guards. Salud!
478. margiesbooboo said:
wow. was at a christian scientologist college town this week, thankfully the last time i ever have to go there, and those ppl are just about the same level of fuckupness. it amazes me what ppl are willing to believe.
margiesbooboo
ps, no sighting of l ron hubbard this last visit.
479. Rebecca said:
The worst thing for me about the Yes on Prop. 8 people are the ads that say "If this doesn't pass, YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE FORCED TO LEARN ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE IN SCHOOL." Give me a break. I can't stand it when people use "who will speak for the CHILDREN?" tactics. WTF? Did we ever learn about heterosexual marriage in elementary school? If so I guess I was absent that day. I would be happy if my children learned about all kinds of marriage in school. I live in CA and will vote NO ON PROP 8 all the way.
480. Buy Kittens said:
You gay rant is hilarious. That is some firm beliefs you had there!
481. Blu-Ray DVDs said:
To comment number 431 - why don't you get a hobby?
Stop hating so much.
482. Disposable Wombat said:
My nature leans toward understanding, compassion and empathy. But, just this once - and being the former Zoobie and Recovering Mormon that I am - I am going to say...
Neener, neener!
Great gobs of galloping goose manure! I would be mortified too!
[ok - that is out of my system. I will go back to admiring and empathizing. Promise never to have a peek at my old diaries, especially my mission journal.]
483. RJ said:
I don't look at your diary as embarrasing at all. I see the beginnings of change and reflection. People who didn't grow up the way you did may not realize how powerful the ideas of faith can be and how hard it is to change. You can't throw one idea out without it literally CHANGING YOUR WHOLE WORLD.
I grew up in a very fundamentalist Christian home. I went to college and took a mythology course. The course focused on creation myths of many religions. I remember thinking (of other stories) "How ridiculous! How could anyone actually believe that???" Then we studied the biblical creation story. Seeing it from another point of view, our story sounded pretty unbelievable too! What affected me even more though was that all the stories had SO MUCH in common. It made me re-think everything. How do I know that WE are right? What makes ME more right than THEM?? It blew my mind and changed my whole world. Your diary reminds me of myself.
Thanks!
484. Wendy from NJ said:
O.K., I haven't read all of "THE CRAZY" but I just wanted to say, the first thing I thought when I saw that picture was "Oh! My! God! She looks just like the actress that plays the character Mia in Californication!" Have you seen the show?
485. Mary Beth said:
You grow, girl!
486. humble happenings. said:
i love you! & i almost stopped reading after a few of the insane god parts... but im so glad i kept reading. and im so glad that now i have a new blog to read everyday!
487. Judy said:
Hey - you're wearing Levi button-fly 501's, right? So, it's really not so bad.
488. lisae said:
I think you'll be as embarrassed by many of your current entries as you are your past. You're terribly judgemental.
489. Amy said:
NOW THAT WE HAVE A "BLACK" MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND A woman (yikes I hate to say she represents women) AS A VP CANDIDATE:
NEXT UP HOMOSEXUAL FOR PRES!
CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY OF THIS GREAT LAND.
186 good points. I have a sister who is very religiously conservative and it is uncomfortable when the conversation gets around to how gays are not normal. But those are her feelings, don't step on mine. We agree to disagree and then talk about each other at home :)
Love to Heather, Jon, Leta, C & C
490. Bree said:
Heather,
I've been reading your blog for about 6 months and enjoyed every post until this one. Well I shouldn't say I didn't enjoy it as much as I was immeaditaly transported back to my 16 year old bible thumping self which truly made me "Cringe". (Perfect selections for the book.) As a raging liberal social worker who works at a Teen Health clinic doing contraceptives presentations daily it's almost painful remembering was an asshole I was. (A young and well meaning one I suppose, but asshole all the same.) Anyway I'm totally buying this book. Memories like this keep you humble which I find to be a pretty good thing. Not that you can get too cocky being a social worker...but you know what I mean. Anyway thanks for your work and keep it up. Best wishes.
491. Terroni said:
"real human moms and dads"
best line.
492. Anonymous said:
I like your hair.
It was so weird reading that. In a way I was waiting for you to come back with APRIL FOOL. I mean you were really serious about it. In a weird way. I don't think I have ever written out the word Satan.
My how you have changed since 1994.
493. shauna said:
You've come a long way, baby!! Aren't old journal entries terrifying and delicious, shocking and um, well, shocking?! Your hair looks majestic on your shoulder, like the mane of a my little pony.
494. Sheila said:
Ahhhh, to be young and stupid. One day when we're all dead, we're going to find out that none of the shit we worry about was worth worrying about. These people who put there own religion about everyone elses are just kooks.
Do ya really think that God would shun everyone who dies if they weren't ------ insert religion here.
Insanity. Gays deserve the same rights that straights have. And for all those who take the Bible literally word for word...please explain to me why 'man shall not lie with a man' is taken as gospel....yet....slaying every woman and child in wars, killing your child for swearing, death if you work on the sabbath, slavery....etc etc etc is NOT?
Duh.
Good post.
495. Kirsty said:
Gotta say, I'm a (practicing) Mormon and I would have been freaked out by your intense, judgmental bizarro-ness back then too. Those entries blow my mind just as much as they do you and everyone else here. I hope it goes without saying that those entries don't represent my Mormon view of the world or that of any of the Mormons I hang with.
Along with your handwriting as someone mentioned above. Your hair was indeed beyond. Beyond.
496. Sally in Florida said:
Wow, you've only been "out" for a short time! I had no idea. It's amazing that you've come so far in so little time really. You really sound like you bought into it completely too, what changed you? I never really bought into it as completely as that, so I wonder how you found your way out...
Anyhow, you were not in college but those Mom jeans...God, what were we thinking?
497. L. said:
my country is also working on changing the law so that same-sex couples can have the same rights as opposite-sex ones. it's so silly-- i've lived with my partner for more than two years which makes us de-facto, but if he was another girl we would only be considered roommates. it's not even a case of being able to get married, but just equal rights for everyone, regardless of gender.
religion should have nothing to do with it. i'm sick of the way religious morality gets forced into the government! people should be able to marry who or whatever they want.
498. Susie said:
You know what? You have a very distinctive voice as a writer and that was clear all the way back then. You also have tremendous compassion as a person and that also came through all the indoctrination and brain washing. Yes, these are cringe-worthy entries, but they also kind of restore my faith in human intelligence.
I mean look at you now!
It might have been the crazy that fueled your pithy observations about Satan... but as long as you stay true to you you're golden with or without the approval of your heavenly father (and you know that guy lovs you no matter what you say or do because that's how he rolls.)
499. Anonymous said:
Thanks for leaving the link for prop 8!! I clicked in immediately and bought a bunch of stuff to wear and post! I get sick when I see parents driving their kids to school, my sons school, in cars with stickers saying Yes on Prop 8!
How bad is that??
Just listened to Julia Sweeney's audiobook "Letting go of God", by the way, on my way back from school, check that out! It is hillarious! LOL!
Thanks again Heather!
Now I can finally oppose!!
500. Greg said:
I would like to say that I disagree with your assertion that religion is the only reason with which you can oppose gay marriage. Mostly because I don't have to do anything for the next five minutes.
Let's say you look at things absolutely and completely objectively. By that I mean you have to completely strip away all the bullshit that we think we are, and that we think others are and all that blah blah blah. An easy way to do this, at least for me, is to picture myself sitting on the moon in a lazy-boy looking down at Earth, completely disconnected from it and judging it the same way as when I laugh at my dog when he tries to run through my screen door. If you do this, you would define the human race as a form of being that has two sexes and is built to procreate, and thus evolve and survive, by the joining together of those opposite sexes. Therefore, nobody in a position to make decisions for the greater good of the race should support a practice that takes away from it.
Obviously this argument makes no account for the ridiculous power of our emotions, and how much of our lives is spent satisfying those emotions, but it is, nonetheless, a non religious reason for opposing gay marriage. My drink is empty.
501. Jenny R said:
Freakin hilarious - why has no one mentioned the Barney valentine - that is so disturbing it hurts.
I have an 11 year old daughter and I want to remember this post for when she is annoying and thinks she knows it all..um yeah, like tonight.
502. Anonymous said:
I "Cringe" when I read old love letters I wrote to my husband... if only he would burn them. Pure proof I should go straight to hell.
503. theotherjennifer said:
Heather - it must have been the weight of the hair making you write that stuff. We all have diaries of boys and "he's the one" and tragic teenage shit.
Thankfully you have grown into a person in a time/space where there is adult shit to deal with.
504. May said:
Please go click on the link dooce provided for her friend, Sarah. Cringe isn't just a book; it happens live! Brave souls read their teenage journals in front of a (hopefully really drunk) audience, and it's awesome. I laugh until I cry; the embarrassment is incredibly intense. I am not one of those brave souls who read, but being in the audience is a very, very fun experience.
505. shaunna said:
heather, i'm sorry (but) i couldn't get through those entries. i skimmed. they made me cringe. for as well as you write now... well, saying what an improvement is an understatement. obviously. then again i'm not in the habit of reading teenage journals anymore. if i dug mine out i'm sure they'd make me cringe, too.
and i mailed my ballot this morning. i voted no on 8.
506. CM said:
Jesus. You were brainwashed. How do you even maintain the rocky relationship you manage with your family? Why bother?
507. Karen said:
holy cow. lol! that was just way too much jesus for someone at that age. you must feel so liberated. my deepest thought in college was whether i could get away one more week without doing laundry.
508. iwantspaghetti said:
oh my gosh. thank you so much for posting this stuff. like you, i went through a dramatic change in way of thinking, etc. a lot of it had to do with the way i was raised (of course). :) anyway, sometimes when i look back at what i was or read what i wrote, i can't shake the shame of it. i question how that person could be the same as i am now. i usually try to laugh about it but sometimes it really bothers me. anyway, thanks for being courageous and sharing this.
509. Soup and Song said:
De-lurking to say: oh my god, you are awesome. Awesome that you'd post your old journals and awesome that you're standing up for gay marriage. I absolutely love your writing. Thanks for putting yourself, and your life, out there. You are a true inspiration. Cheers!
510. Kathleen said:
What 301 said. Even many non-Mormon lesbians-to-be like me were homophobic in the exact way you were at the time that Philadelphia came out. What struck me about this journal entry is the glimmer, the beginning, the start of a larger critique. I teach sociology of sexuality to undergrads and it is cool when these little cracks start because usually it's the beginning of the end. It's neat to see it in retrospect in the case of you. And I totally love you for sharing this shit. Well, more than I did already.
511. elkabong said:
Albino Raindrops = band name.
512. Bret said:
Thank you. I will never be able to look at snow again without thinking of "albino raindrops."
513. KellyO said:
OMG Heather. Seriously, you want to marry your dogs? This reminds me of a time when we were in Utah, and my mother (thoroughly non-religious) was sort of starting to groove on the whole Mormon thing. Then, she read that bit about the eternity-with-your-family thing and was like, HELL no, I don't want to spend eternity with these people. So, consider carefully--do you really want to marry YOUR dogs? Maybe Chuck, but Coco? Surely we can find better dogs for you to marry.
I'm gay, and I was in Hawaii for the first gay marriage debate and defeat, and remember vividly the "marry your dog" commercial they had. People, please, you don't understand the issue. We want to marry the loves of our lives, the same-sex adult human that we love. Then, of course, we merely CHEAT on our same-sex partners by FORNICATING with the dogs.
514. RJ said:
Greg-I see your point- and I realize you're just playing devils advocate, but the idea of marriage being based on pro-creation is sorta silly, right? What about infertile couples? What about couples that are fertile, but have no intention of having children? What about couples who only adopt? It's silly of course . . . just wanted to make that point.
515. thevalerie said:
The way I see it, a large part of the debate around gay marriage stems from a semantic issue. What most people don't realize is that the word "marriage" actually refers to two separate and different things. The first is a legal status that extends various legal and official rights to the people involved (including tax breaks, next-of-kin designation, etc.). The second is a religious status bestowed at the sole discretion of a religious institution. The two often go hand-in-hand, but should not, as a matter of policy, have anything to do with one another - a marriage can have the blessing of a church and not the state, or may be recognized by the state but not a religious community.
Until we have separate terms for these separate things, we will continue to have this problem. Just call ALL legal unions "civil unions," and leave marriage to the churches.
That said, I am firmly anti-Prop 8. As long as "marriage" continues to be a legal term, it should be available equally to all.
516. Amy said:
The thing is...marriage isn't really a "religious" issue...you have to get a liscense, you have to get a blood test - blah blah blah - so all that "God doesn't want you to"...well, where in the bible does it say "god wants you to go the the courthouse M-F between 9 AM and 5 PM and register yourself and someone of the opposite sex? Blah. I'm straight and personally believe everyone should have the opportunity to be miserable and get divorced. It is hard enough to find the person you are supposed to spend the rest of your life with...don't piss in the Cheerio's of those who find it...WHY does it matter to anybody else?? GEEZ?!
517. Erinn Foley said:
Hi Heather!
Glad to hear you're as mortified as I was when I got my publishers copy of "Cringe." The scary thing? I didn't even submit some of my worst stuff, because I figured it would be too horrible for the book... I should have just submitted the stuff. It's kind of freeing seeing the Crazy (yeah...me too) in print.
Erinn
518. Babybloomr said:
What a sultry little Mormon you were!
And what worlds I could have conquered with that hair...
*pauses to flip thin, baby-fine wisp off of shoulder*
My teenage diaries consisted of reeeeally bad emo poetry in which I threw around words like 'metamorphasis' a lot.
Also cryptic references like "Had some SC on Phil Longtin's party barge"--yeah that impossible-to-crack code (SC = Southern Comfort) would have kept any prying eyes from figuring out I got drunk!
My oldest daughter is now 16. She is not the teenager I was, she is her own blessedly individual little weird self, but danged if she doesn't write bad emo poetry too! (I know because I looked. Sue me.)
Thanks for the memories.
519. Sabrina said:
Hey, Heather. 'Just wanted to say thank you for posting a link to the No on 8 website.
As an out lesbian who is working hard for this cause, I can't thank you enough for the support.
520. Anonymous said:
Holy balls, Heather. I love you. And I swear, I'm not a creep.
I'm a registered republican and member of the Lutheran church, but you can bet your ass I'll be voting no on Prop. 8.
521. ej said:
Heather, in case you didn't notice, that journal entry your teenage self wrote about gay folks was all about how GAY FOLKS ARE PEOPLE. Which was something someone needed to tell a whole lot of the Christians my queermo self knew when I was growin' up. Stop beating up teenage Heather and start being proud that she grew into such a kickass woman and hope that you set a good example for some of the more prejudiced people you knew back in the Mormon day. Oh, and the Heather B. Armstrong (err, Hamilton, then) talent with words is apparent even in these old entries--my journals were never so cleverly playful.
522. swimmergirl said:
I married into a family of super ultra conservative Christians (my hubby, being the "black sheep" of the family, is the only one who hasn't "found" the Lord). I was under the impression that Christians were nonjudgemental and accepting of everyone. Isn't that what Jesus would do???
I love my in-laws and the rest of my husband's family but I can't tell you the number of times I've had to leave the room when conversation has turned to politics or social issues. I am baffled at how unaccepting and judgemental they are. Call me a coward but I can't take on arguing with 15 people..........I probably would be banned from holiday dinners from now on. I know the day will come when I've had enough and can't bite my tongue any longer and then I'll be cooking the turkey on my own.
523. John in Phoenix said:
Wow Heather - do you actually read all of the comments for your journal entries? You have TONS ! Anyway, I was a Mormon convert at the age of 19 years old, finding myself sucked in to the teachings of the church as a chance to 'mend' my ways as a Gay teenage boy. Talk about someone that really burned with a belly full of supposed testimony for the prophet (read: profit) Joseph Smith and all of the bullshit that he made up for his followers. WOW. I went on a church-sponsered mission over to Spain for 18 months ( I escaped the two year stint as they had modifed how long the mishies had to stay out in the field for a few years down to 18 months instead of a full 2 years for some unknown reason thank god...) and as a good little missionary I faithfully kept a journal for that entire mission from hell. Talk about one screwed up Gay boy trying to escape my sordid Homo past by trying to be a good Mormon soldier of God. Oy-freakin' vey. I wish I could share some of my own journal entries with you because they are filled with my longing to squash my homosexual feelings and constantly writing about how I was certain that God would/could/should be able to change the way that I thought and felt about another man emotionally and physically. Dear God, the bitter angst of having to spend 24 hours a day in the company of another young 18-19 year old virile, hormone bursting man just had me tied up in knots ! It is interesting to watch the progression in my thinking as the mission wore on and how my first entries had me all fired up to do the Lards work and save all of those Spaniard Catholic heathens and convert them over to the Lards one and only true church, and then in the last 50 or so pages my entries began to show that I was so OVER the lying and self hatred that I had for myself because I was beginning to understand that I was not broken or wrong for the Gay thoughts and feelings that I was experiencing and that by God I was ready to break down the closet door and come out in a big way as soon as I got home from my mission. Which I did do thank you very much. My Young adult ward Bishop called me one of the son's of perdition when I told him that I am Gay and want to be ex'd out of the church. It's really too bad that the Mormons and a lot of other religions on this planet go out of their way to make Gay men and women (or Transgendered, etc, etc) feel such self hatred and shame just for being who we are. So very sad really.
I have been reading your journal for a few years now and have never commented before, but I thought that it was time to come out of lurk mode and actually add my own two cents worth in your comments section for once. Keep up the great writing sweetie - you have a wonderful gift and it's just great that you so openly share your life with all of us out here in internet land.
Cheers my lovely Lady !
- John in Phoenix
524. Jane said:
Actually Heather, it doesn't seem to me that you've changed all that much. You were intolerant back in college and you are intolerant now. The only thing that has changed seems to be what you are intolerant about. It's kind of like how a lot of people who are commenting here are bragging about how tolerant they are, but in the same sentence they say how much they hate people who are religious. Hmmm.
525. Greg said:
Hey RJ - thanks for the rebound :). I was hoping someone would respond but with 99% of the posts being (deserved) worship of heather's awesomeness it's kind of hard to have discourse.
Good point... It is silly to say that marriage is simply based on procreation. It's funny because my own beliefs on marriage wouldn't support my point at all! It's a completely different discussion though, which i'd love to have by the way. My point, i think, was just from the perspective of a disconnected observer trying to weigh the option of whether or not to allow same sex marriage. Obviously there will be same sex unions regardless of "authority's" position, however to legally allow marriages would, i assume, increase the number of same sex partnerships and therefore decrease the rate of evolution and procreation.
It's a ridiculous argument and i'm seriously laughing as i follow it through because there's so many points that can be discussed. I just threw it out there because i can almost never let it go when someone says -this is the way it is, PERIOD.- Nothing save gravity is absolute, and we'll see what the hadron collider has to say about that shit.
526. flakeyblakee said:
I like Heather 2.0 much better then Heather 1.0
527. Erin said:
You totally looked like the chick from Nick and Nora!! Very pretty!
528. Logan said:
I just had a huge paragraph written out, arguing the facts of my initial comment, when I realized that ya know what? The people who argue with me on my points of view aren't going to change my mind, just like I'm not going to change theirs with whatever I say. So all I'm going to say is this: (like I said in one of my comments on the "hypothetical question" post) to those of you liberals who think we conservatives are crazy, or "brainwashed" (in the case of being a Mormon, which I am), we think and feel the exact same way about you! Good riddance.
529. Badsanta said:
I'm so happy you've changed over the years. It takes balls to post old diary entries like that. What a beautiful head of hair you had.
530. Marya said:
I am so tired of the injured-sounding conservatives going on about how they're entitled to have an opinion and how the mean liberals aren't tolerating them. Hey, conservatives: no one's trying to stop you from having an opinion. They're just telling you that YOUR OPINIONS ARE WRONG. And yes, opinions can be wrong. There's a difference between the sort of opinion that's really a statement of personal taste and an opinion about what's best for society. For example, if I say, "I like eating fish," or "I didn't like that movie," that's a statement of taste, and taste isn't logical, and it can't be wrong. But if I say, "All conservative Christians should be sterilized," then that's a political position, and other people should feel free to explain why my logic is screwed up. If I have nothing logical to base my political views on, then guess what? MAYBE MY VIEWS ARE WRONG.
Furthermore, this whole "you're being intolerant of my intolerance!" argument is absolutely idiotic. When liberals talk about tolerance, what they mean is that everyone should give everyone else space to do their own thing without interference, as long as they're not hurting other people. For example, liberals want to make gay marriage legal, not mandatory. If you don't like the idea of gay marriage, then don't marry someone of the same sex! It's that easy.
However, when liberals tell you that you're an idiot, it may hurt your feelings, but, sadly, it doesn't prevent you from continuing to be an idiot. It doesn't infringe on your rights, or your ability to continue spouting homophobic garbage, at all. If someone was trying to pass a law that prevented people from expressing their homophobic opinions, I would oppose that law, because free speech is crucial. But when you express your holy, God-dictated opinions? OTHER PEOPLE GET TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS IN RETURN. That's not intolerance, that's free and open debate.
Lastly: #128, you are loathsome. And Heather, you are awesome and hilarious and have gorgeous hair that I envy. That is all.
531. janet jackson said:
friggin' high-lar-i-us.
you rock, heather.
can't wait to read your writing in 30 years..
532. Rachel said:
Thank you Heather. I don't know how you can not blog about politics everyday with all that's going on. I had to start a blog just because when my toddler went to sleep I had to organize my thoughts on politics somewhere. There's just too much information to let it fester in my head.
Anyway, my point is that I recently wrote a post about Being a Christian and a Democrat because for some, these two things can't coexist. That's so weird. Here's that post if anyone is interested:
http://www.naptimepolitico.com/?p=291
Love you Heather!
533. Anonymous said:
Dear Heather,
I too, would like to marry both of your dogs.
Love,
A loyal reader
534. Anonymous said:
huh? I'm not religious and I don't think homosexual marriage should be legal.
535. janet jackson said:
omgmarya i wanna marry ya.
536. Lisa said:
EXACTLY.
All of the arguments for Proposition 8 are flawed. Every single stupid one of them.
And people, churches, those of authority, continue to perpetuate half truths and lies as a means to a supposed righteous end.
I've been sorting out my feelings on this issue on my blog (click on my name) and...I am still a member of the church, perhaps more fringe than not these days, but DAMN.
It's ridiculous.
And uh, Heather, I could totally beat you at the embarrasing journal entry thing.
"Sunday is my favorite day of the week."
And I had non-member family's souls to worry over, too. As a "golden convert" I had all the vocab down pat, and I used it like a weapon.
Trust me, you're not alone here. Thanks for sharing, though.
537. Scott said:
Heather,
I remember these same thoughts in my own past-adolescent-evangelical-BYU life. The only reason I don't have to endure my own words is my laziness on the whole "write stuff down" dimension.
Thanks for your courage to post these excerpts. While I can't agree with the past me on these same issues, I can accept the past me a bit more with your example.
Thanks
538. Lauren said:
I want to slap you in that picture: it just screams hoity-toity bitch.
And I say that with full love and appreciation for who you are now. Proof that a logical, intelligent mind can overcome anything. The meds probably helped too.
539. BettyCrockerAss said:
I'm not sure if I would call what you wrote crazy..or rather what your state of mind was.
I would call it more brain washing.
From someone who knows.
540. Shannon said:
As a Californian, I have to say thank you.
No on Prop. 8
541. Natasha said:
Hi Heather,
I wanted to take a quick moment to thank you for your writings. I began reading 3 years ago purely for entertainment, and boy oh boy did you deliver! But I have come to appreciate your site for more than your crafty writing style.
My back ground is in Political Science and something wonderful happens on your site when you touch on certain topics. Discourse. One of the fundamentals of a functioning democracy that has a population that is evolving and growing is discourse.
I am not commenting in order to jump into the debate, rather to congratulate you on your ability to bring people together and afford them the opportunity to disagree.
It is not easy to do. Comments and attacks areoften hard on you personally as you have shared in the past. So I offer Kudos to you the 'Utah Princess', and please know some of us really value the forum you have provided.
542. Beth said:
I'm a Christian, and I'm against gay marriage - primarily because of the definition of marriage (one man, one woman). But I'm not necessarily against gay parternships, unions, whatever. I know most of you can't understand my reasoning, and that's ok. I think #157 is right: the problem began when the government obtained jurisdiction over marriage (a God-ordained institution) instead of the church. But of course that won't change now. I don't know... it's tough.
Heather, I love your blog, even though our ideologies are very different. But even though I disagree with you on many things, I don't feel the need to attack your character. It's just depressing to read blog after blog, comment after comment that attacks the very core of who I am just because I believe in God.
My best friend is a bisexual agnostic - needless to say, we disagree about most things. But our relationship is important to me because we've worked so hard to maintain a mutual admiration and respect for each other. It hasn't always been easy; there have been times when we've been really ugly to one another. But I love her with all of my heart, and I value her friendship more than anyone else's in my life. I guess I just wish I saw more of that here - mutual respect, despite differing viewpoints.
543. Nancy said:
SWEET JESUS!
But your hair looks great.
Nancy
(formerly of Idaho, now the free state of IOWA)
544. Kathleen said:
My mother is a very Christian woman, but she fully supports gay marriage. She really doesn't believe that it is a choice that people make, but more than that it's an equal rights issue for her. During the last presidential election they put banning gay marriage on the ballot where she lives, arguing that gay people were afforded the same rights but that they just didn't call it marriage. As soon the gay marriage ban passed, the state began stripping away all the rights it had previously afforded to gay couples.
Personally, I don't know why anyone gets worked up about gay marriage. If you don't like it, don't marry a gay person.
545. Giyen said:
that is so brave. i love the crystal gayle hair.
546. PJ said:
I'm quietly proud to live in a country that has legalized gay marriage. The world didn't end; people didn't marry their mules; long-term committed couples finally went ahead and tied the knot. Ho hum.
So rock your vote! I just voted in the Canadian federal election; only 58% of the voters turned out. Appallingly low. Let's see Americans do way better than that.
547. Anonymous said:
Being gay isn't a choice. People are born gay or straight, as they're born with blue or brown eyes. It's not a "lifestyle choice" any more than heterosexuality is. I'm just sayin'.
548. Heidi said:
You had me at the hair. And then again at "Satan's tools". Thanks for posting these here Heather, it's so interesting to have a glimpse into the person you used to be, given how different (and more awesome) you are now.
549. Stephanie said:
In response to Logan and Logan's dad: (Assuming they weren't simply being sarcastic. Can someone with a PhD really be this ignorant?)
"Heterosexual marriage has clearly demonstrated over millennia of human experience that it is a very positive institution conferring great advantages to society!" Really? So heterosexual marriages are nothing but wonderful? With 55-hour long marriages, the sky-high divorce rate, infidelity, and spousal abuse? Those are some damn fine contributions! (Notice I didn't say that none of these things can happen in homosexual relationships. I'm sure that they do. But that's exactly my point: neither type of relationship is superior to the other.)
"Likewise, homosexuality offers absolutely no value or benefit to society." Gee, and here I thought that two people loving and caring for each other was invaluable. Oh wait, that's just another way of saying that people who can't reproduce shouldn't be allowed to get married. Very clever.
"Those who support homosexual marriage want the same societal recognition and rewards without ever having earned them!" So did people that supported African-American rights. Black people were brought into this country as slaves. They did not have time to "earn their place" in this society. But they didn't need to! They were human beings, and that was enough. Do you think *they* should have taken the time to earn their rights, too?
"Therefore governments enact laws and policies for the purpose of encouraging and supporting an institution that has proven its worth." As I stated above, the institution of heterosexual marriage is in shambles. So does that mean the government is going to stop making laws and policies (or revoke them altogether)that support heterosexual marriage?
"It is a reproductive dead end." Guess what? So am I. I *may* be able to have children with the help of extensive reproductive treatments. Yet my marriage license is proudly displayed on my wall and I am fully covered under my spouse's health insurance.
"Major depression and suicide rates are significantly higher in a homosexual population." I don't even have my Associate's Degree yet and even I can figure this one out. Homosexuals are tired of all the bullshit that they have to put up with while living in a society full of people like Logan and Logan's dad.
"If I were to resist any and all efforts to find a permanent cure for diabetes, then it would be the equivalent of me choosing to be diabetic - and choosing to increase the risk of my posterity being diabetic." Your point is...? Believe it or not, some people in this world do have diseases and, for whatever reason, choose not to treat them. Others may think this choice is foolish, but the people are not discriminated against in any way. By itself your analogy makes sense, but not in this context.
"I have known and dearly loved a number of homosexual individuals. But I cannot support or champion the cause of accepting homosexuality. It is simply not a good thing." I think that statements like this irritate me even more than the outright anti-gay statements. I believe that this statement is a lie: a futile attempt to somewhat pacify gay supporters. (A little guilt creeping in maybe?) Either that, or people who say this must hide their true feelings while in front of these gay friends.
I am simply blown away. And that doesn't happen often.
550. Laura said:
Amazing. You're a much braver soul than I. I found my old journals from high school, the rambling bullshit that spewed forth from my pot-addled teenaged self smacking me in the face like, well, steaming shit.
Yours....good stuff.
551. Sistah from anotha Mistah said:
Ya done gone and growed up, well... good on you! I can't tell you how much I look forward to the glimpsy into The Crazy, it's hysterical. We're all so damn full of ourselves aren't we? Thanks for sharing you, your pictures, your dog, yo flavah. Hey, you pretty much pimp yourself out don't ya, Ok, you're a ho. ;)
552. Rich said:
Ha Ha, you are like most every girl I dated at BYU.
You were a compete loon! A total freak!
Then again, so was I.
And the sad part of it is, there are thousands of these loons out there right now, roaming the halls of the library wreathing in their righteous indignation of gays and lesbians.
That school is one fucked up place.
A true breeding ground for hate and ignorance.
Isn't it strange, you go there to learn, but the only answers you find are the ones they give you or ones that you come up with that just happen to agree with your belief system? How fucking convenient.
Brain washing? Yeah, Every day and 3 hours on Sunday.
Of course you hear the stories of all those that left the church and were so unhappy. Of course they were unhappy, after 20 years of telling them somethings are wrong, they have no other way to feel but guilty for all the 'sins' they are committing.
I agree with you Heather,
It is the most horrible place on earth.
553. jb said:
I don't know if it's as black and white as religion being the only thing that condemns gay marriage. My parents are atheists--always were, growing up without a religion--but they're homophobic. I personally can't understand their point of view because it lacks an argument, and because i'm a vocal ally. They just say it's "unnatural" and "abnormal." And i just yell back that there is no such thing as "normal." Yep, we don't get too far.
554. Bells said:
i just read this and thought, oh thank God I wasn't the only crazy one in my 20s. Thank God we grow up.
555. Rozie said:
There is no need for face punching. You reflect very much how I was raised, how many of my closest friends were raised, and yet we have crossed over to the realm where we're explaining to our parents that electing Obama will NOT incur God's wrath.
Lets both wish each other patience.
556. Eve Grey said:
I don't think I've ever seen the word homosexual written so often in any one piece of writing. I must say you were very consistent.
Don't be so hard on yourself. We were all know-it-all dweebs with super long hair and tight ankle jeans.
Props to you for putting this stuff out there. I know I wouldn't have the tolerence for some of the comments.
557. Bethany said:
Dude. Your hair lives on in legend. It's like a living breathing creature there. BEHOLD IT. It looks in to my very soul.
Also... I have a diary from around the 5th grade that is priceless. One entry basically says "Well, it's been nice knowing you all. I am pretty sure I have leukemia and probably will not live through the night." Then on the very next page it says something like "Bobby likes me. I am really really glad!" And the next page? Something like... "I wonder what would happen if I shoved a peanut all the way up my nose and left it there for a few months?" So yeah.... it's a wonder I did not drown in the shower before I hit the 7th grade. I will have to dig that thing out of my parents basement the next time we visit and post a few of the more choice entries on my blog. Thanks for the inspiration.
558. Anonymous said:
This reminds me of a Dar Williams song called Teen For God.
The girls have looks and the girls have rules
They came here from their Bible schools
They can make you pay attention
To the way you dress and eat
Make you trip over your own two feet and they
Kneel down on their towels at night
Their nightgowns glow with a Holy light
And we pray for the sinners
And their drunken car wrecks
And vow that I'll never get high
And have sex
I'm a teen for God
...
Help me know, four years from now
I won't believe in you anyhow
And I'll mope around the campus
And I'll feel betrayed
All those guilty summers I stayed
But then I'll laugh
That I fell for the lure
Of the pain of desire to feel so pure
And I'll bear all the burdens
Of my little daily crimes
Wish I had a God for such cynical times
Far from today
559. Nhiro said:
My god, your neat ass handwriting. Are you the valedictorian of everything?
560. Ophelia said:
Oh man, I totally know where you were coming from. When I was twelve I was extremely rebellious, and my parents couldn't handle me. When my doctor told her I needed to see a therapist, my mom decided to instead send me to live with a missionary family that she knew through her Church. She shipped me off to Africa when I was twelve years old, to be thoroughly brainwashed by a bunch of religious nuts who would rather buy Bibles then vaccinations.
That was a dark period for me. I was basically told that God had sent me there because I was the child of a divorced couple, and the heads of the family regularly tried pressuring me into calling them Mom and Dad. It really didn't take that long until I started becoming creepy and super religious. I started interpreting everything as being part of some higher purpose, God's plan. I'd have a bowel movement and would be so totally sure that that particular defecation was inspired by Providence. I started growing my hair out when they suggested it, and stopped questioning the blatant sexism that ran rampant in the house. The males were actually forbidden from helping the females do the laundry.
Luckily, when I returned home at thirteen it didn't take long for their influence to wear off. On the bright side, the experience helped squash out my ridiculous notions of religion and helped me to realize that Christianity has basically no credibility. It's fine if people want to be religious, but they shouldn't pressure twelve year old kids into converting and they certainly shouldn't brainwash them.
561. David said:
Heather,
Beyond the crazy diary entries circa 1994 there is something else about you I find terribly interesting. I am dying to know what the trigger was that made you re-evaluate all of your fundamental beliefs. These two people are extremely different and that process of "unlearning" must have been intense.
I am a gay male (20 from Mass) who was raised in a southern baptist family. The pastor of our church was there when I was born. As a kid I stamped tracks (sp?) to be delivered to peoples front doors. When I was 14 my parents found out that I was gay. They, as a last resort, sat me down with pastor. In the front pew of our church he told me I was going through a terrible phase that all men go through (really?) and that I had to make the right decision or burn in hell.
That was when my unlearning began.
Thanks for the post.
562. cattitude said:
The difference between your teenaged rantings and the rantings of prejudiced homophobes being that YOU grew up.
:)
563. Melissa said:
because, oh, I WAS INSANE?
hahahhaa I completely LOLed and I'm not much of an LOLer. Good stuff.
564. Emilie said:
"with real human moms and dads" ....that was my favorite part : )
565. Just Plain Queer said:
Thank you so much for linking to No on 8. Many right-wing religious organizations (including the Mormon Church) are pouring tons of money into California to air ads of outright LIES: 1. "They'll be teaching sex to kindergarteners" (--just plain gross,) 2. "Churches will lose their non-profit status" - Churches don't have to perform gay marriages--that is protected by Freedom of Religion. (If one could recall the separation of Church & State, that would be obvious.)
If you're torn on this issue, consider what exactly you think marriage is about. If "Marriage is about money," then should Brittney Spears' ex- get half for the drive-thru wedding she had in Vegas, when they were married for a couple of days? If "Marriage is about reproducing", then should sterile heterosexual couples be permitted to marry? How about older straight couples? How about, "Marriage is about social stability." If you deny gays & lesbians the right to marry the loves of their lives, should they each be able to marry a person of the opposite sex just for health insurance, etc? (I.e., a gay man marries a lesbian woman?) Isn't marriage about two people who love each other, respect each other, and will cherish each other, so long as they both shall live?
They are outspending 10-to-1 on these ads to deny people a right already granted by the Courts. And in 1967, 80% of the population were opposed to interracial marriage, when the Supreme Court handed down their decision making "mixed marriage" legal. It's as simple as that. "You can ride on the bus, you just have to sit in the back" just doesn't cut it anymore.
Love will find a way.
566. Ericka said:
Dear Heather,
I wanted to leave a comment because I was moved by what you said. Firstly, I think you are awesome. I don't like when people flame you for not being mormon anymore, or for having the audacity to talk about your feelings when you have a nice life. I have a nice life too (I'm a college student and I'm broke but the hours are good) and I hold very dear my right to complain. I think many people wish they had your job. I wish I had your job. But, you're an awesome person. And the flamers seem so bitter.
Anyway, I am a "homosexual" (I thought the repetition of that word was funny). I've also felt that leaving a church that you grew up in can be a bit like coming out of the gay closet. I have friend who eventually left the Jehovah's witnesses. I related to him. I kind of felt that holding a secret that you don't agree with the stuff you've been told to believe your entire life, is a little like holding the secret of your sexual attraction. Also, revealing both secrets has ramifications for how you are going to conduct the rest of your life, so they are both pretty powerful. Aaand, from what I read your dad's reaction to your liberalism was worse than my dad's reaction to my sexuality. Perhaps worse than my mom's reaction to my sexuality as well... (I haven't decided). Anyways, I'm sure the experiences are also very different. I'm sure I'm not supposed to equate the two coming out experiences. I'm sure gay people say that our experience is harder, but, even though my parents aren't fiery conservatives, I still have a hard time being honest about my world view. (I am still too liberal for them.)
However, I think that I admire the intelligence and bravery of people who decide to leave the religion they grew up in. I think that to go through the hardship of disappointing your family for INTELLECTUAL reasons. You know sex is a stronger motivator than intellect.
Also, I could see the tolerance simmering underneath your obviously very sheltered view of "the homosexuals"
Okay, long time reader. (Almost) first time poster. Gotta go plot how to help the NO on 8, campaign. No time to proof read. I hope they aren't too many typos.
-Ericka
PS- You rock!
567. Shakes said:
Yeah, taking a moment to feel moved by God and Country - HOW HUMILIATING! Good thing you're over all that nonsense and SO much smarter now.
But the real question is: Why am I still reading your blog??
568. bonzai said:
Oh my - did Catlover really throw out Adam and Eve as an example?????? As if they were real people? Oy.
569. Anonymous said:
It's been done : getmortified.com. Try to see a show some time. You will laugh until you cry.
570. Liz said:
First off, the hair was a special kind of awesome.
But don't dislike the old Heather too much. At least she was willing to re-evaluate her life and beliefs. She was not utterly close-minded. Also, her honest, sincere, do-gooder enthusiasm is refreshing.
Reading old diaries is a terrific way to explore how many ways one has grown.
571. Shakes said:
And as for the gay issue, prop 8, their rights... I'm not against gay's having their rights--I'm against them taking away mine. Once gay marriage is accepted, then guess what? My kindergartner will be read books promoting homosexual unions (it's already happening). And when he comes home and asks me about it, what am I supposed to do? Have the sex talk with a five year old?
And then the gays will demand that any religion that preaches against their lifestyle lose their tax exempt status (again already happening). So basically, I don't get to respectfully disagree with their life choices. I DON'T have a choice or chance to make up my own mind.
And the next step? Gender neutrality? No boy/girl bathrooms and locker rooms because it's discriminatory to make someone identify with one gender or the other?
It's not about a person making a choice, on their own, to pursue a certain lifestyle. It's about them forcing that lifestyle onto me and my family. And it's about everyone who agrees with the movement automatically discounting any other opinion as completely backward and insane without considering it. Without looking at the last 2,500 years of civilization.
So be it. The movement may have gone too far to be stopped anyway. But the problem is this generation is not going to suffer for these decisions. It's our children taht will pay for it. But what do I know? I still believe in insane things like the constitution and God and backward ideas like that.
572. Anonymous said:
Heather,
you are an attention grubbing whore, a complete narcissist.
573. bonzai said:
Logan - we don't think you are brainwashed. We feel that your data is insufficient to reach the conclusion put forth.
Heterosexualtiy, especially MALE heterosexuals, have done SO much for society - war, rape, slavery, shall I go on? Both sides have their share of issues. But we are all equal in God's eyes are we not? In MY God's eyes, we are all welcome here.
574. Morgaine said:
So neither I nor my family is Mormon, but I was raised in a predominantly-Mormon town called Moapa Valley, about an hour in between both Las Vegas, NV, and St. George, UT. I have to say that I am so completely NOT LDS-church worthy. Lol. No missionaries try to convert me, because they no that there's no way that they can save me. I am very liberal. I like Obama, I FULLY believe in gay marriage, and I think that sex before marriage, while it's something one needs to be careful and thoughtful about, is not hell-damning. So, very clearly, I am not Mormon. If all that wasn't enough, I wear very short shorts. Damn me. Damn me straight to a short short Hell.
Ok. That being said, I like the family structure that the Mormon religion seems to build. I certainly know that it's not that way with all Mormon families, but I'm going to generalize this for the positive. While I'm glad that I personally don't have a big family, I can see the upside to it, and it's a close-knit unit of support and love and sharing of burdens that I really respect.
There's actually a South Park episode about that. Stan meets the new Mormon kid in town, and points out all the ridiculous beliefs of Mormons. (I'm not necessarily saying they're ridiculous. Just because I don't believe in them doesn't mean that they aren't true. Just means I don't get it.) So Stan points out all these clearly faulty things. And then the kid meets Stan at the bus stop and says, listen. You're right. This is some crazy shit. But my family is close because of it, and we're happy. So screw off.
So no matter what your religion is, no matter if I believe in it or I think it's ridiculous; if your religion makes you happy, makes your family happy, then I have a massive amount of respect for you.
575. Cobbler said:
Okay - radical change in attitude, how did that come about - what "opened your eyes" so to speak. But more importantly, WHOA you could write. My diaries were crazy jumbling thoughts that mostly read like a kids story book (yes, even in my early teens) - "Today we went shopping. I bought a new skirt and a story book." *shudders*
576. etta said:
How did you manage such a big turn-around? You have all my respect for having the independence and strength to break from all that. It's hard enough to change your mind on, say, your favorite brand of cereal. What you've done is slightly fucking miraculous.
Albino raindrops was really bad. Your letters to Leta often make me cry.
Thanks for a really great blog!
577. Ingela said:
Whooo! Do I recognize these diary entries! It's time to go home to do some burnin'... You're a braver woman than I will ever be. Great to know I am not the only one with a stash of these kinds of entries lying in the back of some forgotten closet. "God's University" LOL!
578. JJ said:
Just in case no one has sent this to you yet.....
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
so funny yet so frightening at the same time!!
579. sachita said:
When you guys say marriage is a religious institution which religion are you talking about?
I do hope people realize that there are other religions apart from Christianity.
580. kate said:
I didn't read the other comments; wasn't looking forward to the inevitable creakings of self important people who like to bash you, feeling that this somehow proved their point.
I want you to know that posting this was incredibly brave. To show who you were, at that precarious age...especially given the absolute transformation afterwords, well, that takes guts. I have so much more respect for you after seeing the type of mindset you once held, and had to overcome, and then now, dialectic, sharp, intelligent.
Thank you for sharing this.
581. Jennifer said:
I know you were making a point, but you took it too far. Marrying Chuck, fine, but there's no way to make me believe you'd marry Coco too.
582. Adrienne said:
Even with The Crazy, you had lovely handwriting.
583. Hfx said:
Heather
I appreciate your ability to change your thinking since you made those entries. I am a gay man, who just came out, after being married. I recently spoke with a friend who is Mormon who asked me why I made the choice to be gay. I was floored. I cannot believe that someone would believe that someone would make this choice to be judged for wanting to love someone. It's not about the sex. Promiscuity is not solely related to homosexuals or heterosexuals.
Unfortunately, religious beliefs like that are what is pushing my generation away from being loyal to churches. When you are brain-washing your followers (or teaching the wrong thing) you are only hurting the society you are hoping to improve.
Thanks for sharing... very brave!
584. K said:
Just have to mention that 1994 Heather was much crazier than any of the roommates or friends that I had at BYU. My associations there were much more open-minded and healthy individuals. Heather and I were at BYU at the same time, but would have never been friends, even with her pretty handwriting. I definitely prefer 2008 Heather and I am active LDS. I would love to have 2008 Heather over for dinner.
585. Ken G. said:
There has to be bad poetry, please tell me you wrote bad poetry too! I wonder if you are going to look over your blog 20 years from now and be mortified also at what you wrote.
586. mss @ Zanthan Gardens said:
I was also raised in a devout family (Catholic) and when I was in high school and my first year of college blithely spouted the same kind of unquestioned beliefs.
I consider myself luckier than many women in this world. I was allowed an education. I was allowed to decide for myself. Once I was outside of the enclave of family and church and began to examine my beliefs, I found that they did not hold up for me.
But many women remain cloistered--not only as we think of traditionally, in some foreign countries where women are forbidden any freedom of movement outside the protection of their male family members--but cloistered mentally: passing from father to husband in a small town, never having the opportunity to be exposed to any set of ideas outside their provincial lives.
Always be suspicious of any philosophy, religion, or creed which relies on the ignorance of its followers to flourish.
587. Katie Kat said:
First of all Heather, I WOULD FRENCH KISS SATAN HIMSELF FOR YOUR HAIR IN THAT PICTURE. Seriously.
Secondly, what I HONESTLY got from this post was a sense of relief (?)... no, maybe hope. I mean, you were truly brainwashed, in much the same way people in cults are brainwashed. You were not given the chance to think independently or formulate your own ideas, you were just force-fed a religious mantra from the day you were born. I personally think that is bordering on criminal. But there, in your teenage angst, was the REAL you. The one questioning, wondering, wanting to have an alternative answer to the things you were experiencing.
If someone THAT indoctrinated into a religion could turn out to be someone like you are today, then I have real hope that maybe others will break out of that trap as well!
God, that sounded sanctimonious! Here's the gist of it: YOU RAWK, and you were THE CRAZY, but your super cool inner beyotch won the war. Makes me love ya even more.
588. Anonymous said:
Heathen. And, I thought the picture was of Jerry Hall. Love the hair.
589. beatrix, former Catholic said:
I dunno, you sounded then like an interesting, growing person burdened by your upbringing's prejudices but coping. Wonderful that you managed to finally break free but it was inevitable, strong and honest as you are. Awesome hair too.
Love Dooce, and you can't marry Chuck because he's promised to ME!
590. Ames said:
I can't believe how much you've changed in your beliefs. What would you say was the turning point for you? Did it happen all at once or a little at a time?
591. xixita said:
Well, I was going to post something about the illiteracy of the ones who talked about Islamism growing on Europe (as a straight catholic European I have to say, "please commenter nº224 and 356, read something other than American newspapers before making idiotic comments about something you clearly don't know anything about”, gosh, ignorance is clearly the worst evil...), but then I read comment nº 571 and was completely WOW! WTF?!?!?!?!? (Excessive use of signals needed)
My God, are you for real? Do you honestly believe that homosexuality is something "invented" in the 60's? For God sake, America didn't exist and already the gays and straights lived together! In the Roman and Greek empires there was no distinction between gays and straights and their rights.
And you are condemning the equality of civil rights because of the possibility of loss of Tax exemption? Seriously! Or because, God forbid, your kid is exposed to different views than yours? So what if he comes home and asks about sex? Do like all the other parents, give him a cookie and stall the conversation until never.
You scare me! You being a generalization of those who hide behind religion, governments and common phrases to masquerade your lack of knowledge, and support whatever side you think is going to be the least disruptive of your narrow-minded lives. Then, when things go wrong you can say things like, "it wasn't my fault! I was just following orders!”, and go forward living self-righteously.
Man, I needed to get this out of my heart. That post was the worst... SCARY
592. Caitlin said:
Dear Logan (#431),
You and your "doctor" father are both blathering idiots.
Have a great day!
593. hybrid said:
Thanks Heather!
I think #112 sums it up nicely:
I don't think the world's biggest problem is two people who love each other so much that they want to spend the rest of their lives together.
Amen and Amen.
594. Stacey said:
I actually LOVE the girl who wrote the last one! She was trying to see things from another angle with a more generous heart. Oh, sure, she was still crazy (and I can say that because I was, too) but she was discovering!
595. Anonymous said:
Oh, my. I am so thankful, over and over again, that my parents were who they were. They drove me every Sunday to the church of my choice. Babtist, Catholic, Morman, Jewish, Unitarian, etc. etc. A friend would invite me and my fantastic parents would drop me off and pick me up when it was over. They never attempted to decide for me what I should believe. They were so open and encouraging to let me decide. They never went to church themselves. I cannot tell you how my life is so "stress" free of any of the satan and sin bull of most others. I decide for myself to beleive that there is a higher conciesness, not in the normal religious forms of the formed religions. God........I was a lucky child.
596. laura said:
First of all, you have hints of a very good writer in those 'crazy' ones...and some of the stuff you said was kinda really good.
For the last one - i didn't think that was embarassing - it seems as though you were, as many young adults do-questioning through the issue of AIDS and homesexual lifestyle. We all go through that kind of questioning...trying to reason what we feel, believe and want to understand. It's part of growing up.
Thanks for sharing that!
laura
597. Dewshane said:
Heather, thanks for sharing such cringe-worthy matieral. I've got my own collection of crazy writing and nothing short of torture would get me to post it on the internet.
I'd love it if you would delve more into how that girl became the person you are today. How on earth did you abandon such a strong belief system entirely? What drove you to do it? I'm very curious how someone does such a 180 when it comes to their religion. I know you've posted bits and pieces about in the past, but a post devoted to the transformation would be fascinating.
598. Myg said:
You know, after reading you for a few years I did cringe at this glimpse of your 19 year old (I'm guessing) self. Thanks for the car wreck moment.
But that said, even in this last, most psinful entry, it's obvious to see the grains of sanity and compassion that ultimately led you out of whatever crazy haze you were enveloped by in your youth. That part of you is evident here and I can see it in your writing today too.
You're proof that sometimes, the good, grounded side of people wins.
599. Amelia said:
Can I just say that some Christians do support the rights of homosexuals. In fact, some Christians believe that because God created all humanity, we have a duty to respect and love them, even if we don't agree with their actions. Some Christians even do acknowledge that some people are born homesexuals, and cannot help that, and that God's okay with that.
The fundamentalism of the Bible Belt does NOT represent worldwide Christian beliefs. Christians are supposed to love, respect, and seek justice for all human beings.
Please forgive us for our mistakes.
600. Julia said:
Somehow, I know I would have liked you better back then.
601. Dawn said:
haha. I have a bunch of old journals from high school I'd be mortified to read. After being done with the notebook ones, I used to use my geocities site as a sort of blog back in the day. I tried to find it recently, but apparently they got rid of it; it's probably just as well.
The notebook journals are in storage and have been for years--I haven't even looked at them since probably graduation 6 years ago, and I'm sort of scared to do so again.