Why any woman who intends to vote for McCain should reconsider

Two of my favorite bloggers in the past couple of days have explained in succinct detail why we (women in particular) should be sickened by John McCain. I implore you to take the time to read these, they’re not just a bunch of liberal propaganda or pro-choice cheerleading. These are stories of people’s lives.

From Alexa at Flotsam:

McCain states that he would deal with the issue of abortion with “courage and compassion.” I quote: “the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby.” As if terminating my pregnancy would be the easy way out, the way not requiring his precious “courage.” As if dictating my medical care based upon his religious beliefs is compassionate. And I find it interesting to note that his “compassion” for this newborn does not extend to guaranteeing it health insurance.

And Julie from a little pregnant:

He means us when he holds up his hands and says with that single scornful gesture that we don’t matter. That we are a figment of the “pro-abortion movement’s” imagination. That — what, we’re making this whole “staying pregnant might kill me” thing up?

… even if you’re implacably, unconditionally opposed to abortion, a matter on which reasonable people disagree, I don’t see any way a thinking person can look at those air quotes and see anything but pandering, contempt, and a dangerous willful ignorance.

  • Miriam

    I am so done with this.

    Can we just vote, already? I’m tired of being called a stupid religious wacko for having an opinion.

    I think it’s a living thing and worth passing laws about. In fact, I’ll even agree with you that those laws by nature are not going to be easy on the women they affect, but there is no way to mediate that result until we can just take out the embryo and let it gestate safely. From there we get into lots of debate and half of you have shut off reading this and hate me already, but I will not assume you are stupid or radical for your beliefs- how about showing the same courtesy to women with whom you all disagree?

    If I don’t agree with medically optional abortions, am I then yours to vilify? Where’s the all-important Tolerance let alone consideration of others? Where’s the earnest debate?

    I can’t believe I even bothered to read the comments or wrote one myself…

  • Anonymous

    It is uneducated liberals like you, dooce, who are bringing our country down. Please go to the constitution and tell me where we need to provide healthcare to everyone. Tell me where we need to provide education to everyone! Tell me where we need to tax people! Tell me where it says you can kill an innocent person and walk around proud be of it!

    Our country is in the situation it is because we have let the liberal base whine to long. If we want to be a true democracy we need to re-read the constitution … oh wait. The liberals dont want that … why? Because if the uneducated idiots of our country find out they have been fooled all these years the liberals in power wouldn’t have any ground to stand on and would loose their jobs.

    So they champion every cause that may gain votes. No matter how horrific it is. It is wrong to have an abortion and it should be considered murdere. Just like it is wrong to kill your parents. TELL ME: Why can we charge a man who kills his wife with double homocide but if she wants to KILL the child she can? This is the liberal mindset that is destroying our world.

    I only hope common sense comes back to our world and all these crazy liberal ideas are held in check.

  • the niffer

    #90 – Laura, very well said.

    I encourage everyone to go back and read this comment.

  • Connie

    These posts are funny. Dems will always vote Dem because they want abortion available. Repubs will always vote Repub because they want to over turn abortion. A post here or there or any where isn’t going to change anything. It just makes the ugly side of people come out

  • Wayne


    Are you running out of things to write about? I love your writing and look forward to reading about you, your family and your life. You don’t write often about your political feelings and I wonder why you are now and why you are leaving the comments open. Are you feeling insecure and need others to agree with you? I don’t come to your site for a political discussion – there are many other sites that are written by more knowledgeable people that I could be reading. I would really like to see you return to what you are good at – original writing, finding fun items to share and leave the “passionate” political items to those who lack your talents.

  • Anonymous

    Oohhhh #620, I think you offended Ivan’s delicate sensibilities. STFU indeed! =]

  • Sweet Herald

    Ugh. Everything I read about that man makes me want to vomit all over my own tits.

  • http://www.dearesthusband.com Katie

    I’m for Obama – but I disagree with these statements. Because I’m pro-life. What makes me disagree with this is because being pro-life isn’t necessarily about religion. It’s about when you believe life begins and whether you believe that baby has rights, too.

    I do believe in exceptions for the usual – rape, incest, life of the mother, yadda yadda… but anyone can cry rape. Trying to man that situation is a logistical nightmare and people who want abortions will get them – legally or otherwise. Wrong or right.

    I think there are a lot more reasons for women, and men, to vote for Obama than this.. a lot of reasons that cross party and gender lines. And I think that with all the problems going on in our country right now, abortion should NOT be on the top of anyone’s list when deciding who should be president.

  • Believer in the USA

    I’d just like our next president to at least be able to present his BIRTH CERTIFICATE as proof that he is a natural born citizen; after all, he’ll be in charge of our armed forces, have control of our nuclear weapons and hold one of the most powerful positions in the world. It’s a small thing to ask, yet Obama can’t seem to “find” it. Can any one of you get your kids into school without a birth certificate???

  • http://www.dearesthusband.com Katie

    Oh and as far as 632 goes – I completely disagree. The emotional and mental trauma a woman has to go through in the aftermath of being assaulted (by a family member or otherwise) IS part of their health. Carrying that child does jeopardize their health. With that being said, if I got raped, I’d be dang sure I went to a clinic and got one of those pills to prevent pregnancy from occurring.

  • Kristy from Texas

    It fascinates me how close minded some people can be. I truly wonder if some of you aren’t simply lurking on blogs to pick a fight with someone because you are so sure YOUR personal opinion is correct and the only “way to get to heaven”.

    I am the mother of a beautiful 6 year old daughter and I have to tell you I would support her decision should she have the misfortune 10 years from now of falling in love and getting pregnant or should something as devastating as rape occur. It would be her decision! It should be her decision!

    For those of you who think women who have abortions take the easy way out… please that is it’s own kind of hell. But again it is their decision!!!!

    I had a political science teacher say once… “you should never try to make a law out of a moral issue”.

    Not going to church every Sunday may end up keeping me out of heaven (who know’s) BUT IT IS MY DECISION!

  • http://vintagethirty.blogspot.com/ Tootsie Farklepants

    John McCain, in addition to using air quotes while defining a woman’s health, also wants to have our medical history online. The same online that allowed Palin’s email to be hacked. No thanks.

  • Ivan

    Please 646, gimme a break. Don’t give yourself that much credit. I’m a fighter pilot. I’ve heard (and seen) things that would make Blackbeard blush.

    Liberals define delicacy. I don’t serve with any…they won’t fight for anything so they tend not to show up where people actually might get hurt. The only time people like you are tough is when they hide behind mobs, keyboards, and lawyers. I’m almost drunk enough right now to tell you to shut the fuck up, but I like to be respectful to women and effeminate men. I can’t tell which you are, but it’s pretty much one and the same where liberals are concerned.

  • katie

    call me crazy, but i’m of the opinion that each and every woman who has had an abortion has her own story, her own reasons, and her own beliefs about their termination of pregnancy. putting all of them in a box labeled ‘young, stupid, & irresponsbile’ is dangerous. just like believing beyond a shadow of a doubt that roe v wade will never be overturned.

  • http://urbanspinster.org Bess

    Note to Heather: please know that for every bizarro right-winger patriarchy snack on here aghast at your oh-so-shocking liberal tendencies, there are about 25 gabillion zillion others bashing their heads against the wall and putting back fifths of gin in hopes of gathering the wherewithal to respond in a more productive fashion than reaching through the computer to SHAKE some of these people.

    Unfortunately I myself haven’t yet made it past the strong urge to shake.

  • Anonymous

    i am just shocked that anyone that HAS children would even be okay with abortion! Getting pregnant is not an ACCIDENT! you chose to have sex, so you are choosing to possibly get pregnant! *gasp* DEAL with your consequences or let someone who can not have kids adopt the baby! If one has been raped, i am sorry and i understand that it would be very hard to birth that child, but its not the babies fault. Adoption is a better choice than abortion! If you are pregnant and are having complications, get a second or third opinion and.. pray! Trust in God!

  • Lauren Strange

    Do you ever get tired of ignorant people?
    I attempted to read all of the comments but I gave up.
    I understand being for McCain/Palin, that’s cool and all, but to come on here and bitch about how they don’t want to hear your political views blows my mind. I mean, this is YOUR site, YOU write what YOU want, and no one forced them to come here and read your “liberal” musings.
    I am definitely Obama/Biden. I wish it was Hillary, but alas, I have to go for the next best choice. I just think their policies are more suited to my tastes.

    I enjoy your work, no matter what it’s about. Hell, I’d still read you even if you started kissing McCain’s ass via the use of your words.

  • http://faydean.typepad.com Amy J.

    I must interject one more thing.

    My husband is a doctor and from my experience and knowledge of medicine, even if abortion was “illegal” in this country, a doctor would have the right to terminate a pregnancy in order to save a mother’s life. In fact, he would be required to under his Hippocratic Oath. This was the case before Roe v. Wade, and it would be after.

    Abortions are not performed routinely, for religious and ethical reasons, all over this country by the medical community by the way. A doctor can refuse to peform them based on personal religious views. Religious hospitals nationwide do not allow them to be performed. Even pharmacists can refuse to give the day after pill or birth control in general.

    Just as with right to die issues, the public is often misinformed about what actually happens in medicine. I love how one of the bloggers referred to the show House. Good gravy. Medical televsion shows are NOT medicine. And neither is most of people’s assumptions about how abortions are performed and under what cirumstances.

  • Anonymous

    650, You have obviously never been raped. Dealing with my rape was hard enough without having a daily, moving, vomit-inducing reminder of that torturous experience for 9 months, made more difficult only by the trauma of giving birth to that child. That is something I would never wish on anyone, and had you experienced the same, you wouldn’t either.

  • http://www.trommetter.com/log/ Jason Trommetter

    Reading through this comment thread reinforces my view that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided.  Not because I think abortion should be illegal, but because it’s not a federal issue. SCOTUS should never have take the case in the first place.  The decision to abort is way too personal and it’s impossible for any law written at a national level to apply in every situation.

    Do I think taxpayers should pay for abortions? Hello No! But then I’m a Libertarian and I don’t think the government should be in the health care business at all.

  • Lori

    You think “I SHOULD be sickened” by John McCain? Who are you to tell me what to think? That I “should” feel any thing in particular? What if I happen to agree with him – which is my right – just as you have the right to disagree with him? Here’s the crux of why our voter base is so freakin’ ignorant. They’re too busy listening to everybody else tell them how they should vote rather than taking the time/energy/brain cells to figure out for themselves what they believe and then voting their own convictions.

    If you listened closely to McCain during the debate you would have heard that he believes Roe v. Wade (a right to privacy ruling, not a pro abortion ruling) should not have been a Supreme Court decision but, rather, should be left for the states to decide. He didn’t say DO AWAY WITH IT, he said the Supreme Court was not the appropriate venue for it to be decided in. Let the people vote on it. That’s the way this country works, theoretically.

    So, with that said, here’s my opinion on abortion. And it has everything to do with personal responsibility. Just as we are never guaranteed a safe arrival anywhere when we get in our cars, having sex is not a risk-free proposition either. Short of sterilization, there is NO 100% effective method of birth control. Therefore, every single time a woman chooses to have sex, she KNOWINGLY is taking on the possibility that a fertilized egg will result. So, the bottom line is this: ANY woman engaging in sexual activity should be prepared to deal with a pregnancy.

    And because of the very personal and highly charged debate as to when life begins, every legitimately registered voter in the United States should have the right to vote their own conscience as to whether or not abortion should remain legal or if the right of the unborn child supersedes the mother’s right to terminate the pregnancy.

    Personally, I believe gay rights and the question of abortion are merely distractions to keep us ignorant of the real underlying issues of economic stability and national security. We lose those battles and we won’t have the right to even engage in an intelligent debate on such “light-hearted” topics. We’ll be too busy finding a ride to the grocery store when our right to drive has been stripped away like the women in Saudi Arabia and sweating our asses off in big black burqas every time we want to walk to the mailbox.

    And THAT is why I am voting for John McCain.

  • Caitlin

    Ivan, my husband, a registered Democrat who will be voting for Obama, is a Second Lieutenant in the Air Force. My uncle, a registered Democrat, also voting for Obama, served in the Vietnam War. My husband’s grandfather, you guessed it, a registered Democrat, voting for Obama, served in both World War II and Korea. Shame on you for generalizing.

  • http://www.prolifephysicians.org/ Natalie

    Like everyone who was for slavery was free, everyone who is pro-abortion/pro-choice is born.

    This is NOT about woman’s rights. This is about the rights of an unborn child. That baby doesn’t get to say a single word about what happens to ITS body (which is distinct and separate from its mother’s). And what about the man’s rights in this situation? The baby has half of his DNA too, so don’t kid yourself that this is nothing more than a woman’s issue. It doesn’t matter how you slice it, the baby is a human being (its unique DNA is determined immediately at conception) and it IS alive, as it meets the 5 qualifications for life (motion, reproduction, metabolism, growth, and stimulus response).
    So human life + abortion = murder.

    I disagree with you on a lot of things, dooce, and I let most of it roll off my back because I really appreciate your humorous insights into motherhood and life on this blog of yours; but this is ONE thing that I cannot keep silent about, and it sickens me to the core that people can genuinely believe that abortion is an okay “choice.”

    There’s nothing for me to reconsider here, dooce. Obama would never get the vote of a pro-life woman. Or any woman with morals, for that matter.

  • gayle

    I read this and my thoughts exactly:

    I am voting for McCain for many reasons, one of which is that he is pro life. I know I am an odd girl out around here, but that is fine. I still like the blog even though we couldn’t be more opposite if we tried.
    Disagree, without being disagreeable.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Alexa at Flotsam: Yes it takes courage to terminate a pregnancy.It takes a lot of courage to go against the grain of conscience which will never lie about abortion being wrong.It takes courage to live with inner condemnation, to shut the door to one’s inner voice and create silence in the place where the truth can be heard.It is a known psychological,experiential,human fact that we can lie to ourselves and that we can close such doors,even if ultimately that lie within will not rest quiet though dormant a whole lifetime perhaps.It is a known fact that human beings do such things and justify to themselves and others such things. One only has to know themself to know this to true.

  • Stacy

    I find it humorous that anyone things that there is that much difference in the candidates. Neither will do anything they said to get elected. They are all about personal power. Vote for whomever helps you sleep at night. Nothing will change one way or the other.

  • http://www.ovolina.com Anita the Ovolina

    I am from Rome, Italy, (not Georgia or New York as I am often asked) and I am a pro-lifer in the sense that I believe that abortion is killing an innocent life but I disagree with many pro-lifers here in the US.
    In Italy a country that is 97% Catholic (even if often only nominally) the abortion debate is a non issue. Italians are just not interested in using this issue for political debates/gains. Since abortion became legal in 1978 there has been a slight increase within the first few years and a steady decrease ever since (far greater than in the United States where the debate over abortion blinds’ people’s thinking) The decrease goes hand in hand with health care plans for mothers and babies, for single parents, pre-natal care and all of those evil ‘socialist’ programs that help women and children.
    Instead of fighting to repeal a law that will never ever be changed why don’t we focus on health care and initiatives that can make keeping a baby a real choice not an impossibility!

  • Michele

    No, my 2 year old does not read this blog. Clearly, you chose one part of my post to jump on to attack. The entire point that I attempted to make was to as: why would you say something to someone else, just to hurt them? I guess your response proved my point.

    Maybe, I should let my 2 year old respond…she has been taught that it is not nice to hurt people or their feelings.

    Best of luck to you.

  • Laura

    For pete’s sake, as if Roe Vs. Wade will be overturned just because the evil John McCain gets elected. It takes a Senate a Congress and the Supreme Court to make a decision it is not based soley on the President. Once again, it is liberal propaganda trying to push their radical view points with scare tactics.

  • http://www.madeforrosa.blogspot.com Michelle

    Now I’m going to go post a link to one of link to one of my favorite bloggers, posting links to two more of my favorite bloggers…

  • Kristina

    And……yet….here’s why Obama is EQUALLY as extreme and why someone should think of the other side. How about “Abortion will kill me?”


    Seriously folks? Is it that hard to understand why people stand against abortion?

  • http://marvelousmisadventuresofonesahm.blogspot.com/ Krissi thank you very much

    Far be it from any woman who calls themself a Christian to vote for John McCain who actually stands up for his beliefs. That would be wrong how Heather? Just because you have turned your back on the way in which you were raised, doesn’t mean that those of us in middle, main stream American don’t vote based on our convictions as well as our research. Killing innocent babies is WRONG!

    MCCAIN/PAILN will be getting my vote! You bet I will do my part to make sure Obama and his sorry politics won’t be running this country for the next 4 years!

    Go ahead let the attacks fly, you guys can call me what you want all I am saying is that what ever you call me will NEVER make me change my mind on this election so you will be wasting your time and mine!!

  • http://www.holdingthespace.blogspot.com amber

    of course that wasn’t the point–what good would that do me? i don’t make my living online so “tooting my own horn” would be useless. i was trying to point out that my use of profanity was for a reason and not just as a result of flying off the handle. my thought was that if i pointed out my “qualifications” (purely for lack of a better term) it would be clear that i do in fact have at least a passable command of the language and was swearing purposefully for a reason. anyway, i can’t believe i’m taking an anon blog commenter seriously so i’ll stop fueling the troll fire. heather i’m not sure if you manage to read through all your comments, i can’t imagine how long it would take, but i appologize for making you read this.

  • Ivan


    I said “liberals,” not “Democrats.”

    2nd Lt’s don’t know shit.

    Your uncle and husband’s grandfather may be Democrats, but I don’t think they’re “liberals” as far as today’s terms go. JFK, FDR, and Andrew Jackson were Democrats, and I’m pretty sure THOSE are the kind of Democrats your Uncle and husband’s G’father voted for. Hell, Bill Clinton wasn’t even a “liberal” by today’s standards.

    It’s pathetic that people are voting for Obama because they were raised Democrats, or their fathers or Grandfathers were Democrats. Yesterday’s Democrats are nothing like the Obama-ites. Four years of the Obama administration will clearly demonstrate to the Democrat faithful that they were sold a bill o’ goods. JKF and FDR would be ostracized by the Dems of today…kinda like Bill C was thrown under the bus.

    Shame on you for not realizing what Obama and 8 years of Bush Derangement Syndrome has done to the Democratic Party.

    By the way, good luck to you and your husband. I was active duty for 10 years and full time Air National Guard for the last 4. I love the Air Force, and it’s a great way of life. Obama won’t be great for the Air Force budget and that will consequently directly affect your way of life, but good luck all the same! McCain is no fan of the USAF, either.

  • Anonymous

    Sandra @ 157 Wow. Did it make you feel better to say you hoped someone would get hit by a bus?

  • anna

    I haven’t read all the comments, so if someone has already said this, let me say it again:

    It is not just any woman who intends to vote for McCain who should reconsider – it is anyone who *likes* women, anyone who suspects they are human, anyone who thinks it’s utterly unacceptable to sentence them to die for the crime of being impregnated.

  • Diana


    I just want you to know that I absolutely agree with everything you say and I am glad that you are giving us your view because it makes me like you even more.

    I wonder if the religious right know that the only reason the “church” is against abortion is because then you aren’t making anymore future church members that they can then get their tithing from?

    Look at the history of any church, whatever religion, and you will find that is the reason.

    I’ve heard this before: If men could get pregnant, you could buy abortions at the grocery store!

    And Heather, I will click on you way more times a day, so you will continue to get whatever you would get from the prolifers who say they are leaving!!

    Rock on sista!!

  • megan

    #153: of course i can. a woman can be pro-choice without ever choosing to have an abortion, but you can’t be pro-life without disagreeing with that woman’s right to make that choice.

  • AB

    Thank you, Heather. Keep writing. Don’t let the assholes get you down.

  • Sandy

    It never ceases to amaze me that so many people think it is a woman’s right to end her baby’s life.

    All the arguments about why the baby isn’t really a baby would be amusing if so many babies weren’t losing their lives daily.

    I am a woman and I am definitely pro-life. Wow, that is just so frightening, huh?

  • Amy

    Call me a pessimist, but I don’t see either political party ever making this issue any better. I appreciate compelling arguments from both sides and come to only one conclusion: we need to take better care of each other on an individual level. If you are worried about teenage pregnancies, why not volunteer or financially invest yourself in local youth? If you find it shocking that a dying woman would terminate her pregnancy, go hold her hand and watch as her body goes into multi-organ failure. I believe every choice a person makes affects someone else and no government will ever fully monitor them, for better or worse. This might not be near the issue it is if we simply cared about the people we see every day. The solution is individual, so before you rank or categorize the pain of nameless masses, for pete’s sake, do one thing constructive in addition to voting.

    And to Heather, while I don’t always share your views, I certainly appreciate your passion for a better world. Thanks for challenging me to do the same.

  • Anonymous

    Unless John McCain kills someone live on television, I cannot vote for Obama. Nothing else is a deal breaker compared with the ultra liberal agenda and shameful record of poor judgement by Obama. Nothing.

  • http://www.abdpbt.com abdpbt

    The posts you cited are fantastic. Thanks for spreading the word on them.

    Uggh, though, I don’t know how you read some of this crap sometimes. I felt like strangling McCain the other day with his patronizing, smug, misogynistic frankenstein sneer, and my blood pressure is rising again after reading some of these people here, too.

    And as far as Palin goes, there is nothing that demonstrates McCain’s misogyny MORE than his choice of her as running mate. Women should be embarrassed and insulted. You know, the thing is, we do need stupid people. They are super useful to society in a variety of ways. But one of their uses is not being a Vice President. Or talking about politics.

  • http://commonplacetheory.com Lauren

    Politics aside, because we all have our opinions, I want to address the issue of your blog with your readers.

    1. This blog is called Dooce.com. Heather features daily pictures of her life, her family, her dogs, and products that she likes. This is her gig, people. It’s HER blog about HER life.

    2. Isn’t asking her to refrain from discussing her views on politics a form of censorship?

    3. A reader commented about Heather not being funny because of the political aspect of her blog. Life is not always funny, people. It wasn’t funny when Heather lost her baby and all of us offered love and support, but sure as hell, we didn’t tell her not to blog about it because it wasn’t funny. Heather is naturally a funny person who experiences life…and sometimes, life just isn’t funny. Sometimes, funny takes a back seat to reality.

    4. You CHOSE to come here and then shake your finger at her about what you read is moronic. OXYMORON is the word of the day, folks.

    I admire those of you who express a difference of opinion, but do so with tact. Those of you who accused Heather of alienating you…well, see #4.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who has ever purchased a condom knows when life begins.

  • Jackie

    Of course, sure, you can vote for Obama… when he and his lunatic wife not only support live-birth abortions, but petition for them. It’s so much better for women to vote for him, and support his maniacal support of leaving living “aborted” children to die or actively slicing their jugulars so they bleed to death.

  • Kelly

    Yeah, it’s a tough decision for sure.
    McCain wants to put abortion control back in the State (and, by degree, the people’s) hands and Obama is so pro-abortion that if those unwanted babies have the nerve to live through an abortion, the hospital will have to try kill it again. (regardless of his flat-out lies on this, there’s documented proof that Obama voted this way).
    As a pro-lifer, I’m one of those backward Christian types who value a child’s life as much as the mother’s and think that we have enough preventative measures (birth control, morning after pill, abstinence) that abortions are only necessary in cases of the mother’s life being in jeopardy (less than 2% of all abortions), a postion McCain also takes.
    So tough to decide…

    (and that’s not even taking on the “spread the wealth” argument)

  • Bev

    When I was pregnant (29 years ago) my doctor (and my ex-husband) encouraged me quite often to abort my fetus.

    Why because I had a very difficult pregnancy. If was very inconvenient for me (and the ex!) to spend almost everyday in bed…in the hospital twice and sick everyday. My baby sister has cerebral palsy (a birth defect and not inherited) and that was a nervous consideration.

    I decide to follow my heart, instinct as a mother and convictions. I went through with my pregnancy.

    Eight months later my son was born. Since he was early, his fetal breathing system did not shut down and was in NICU. We traded a very small savings account for a child (via paying doctor and hospital bills.) It just made us want to try hard to provide for him and excel as a family.

    About two weeks later, I took home a very healthy, bright, smart and thriving baby boy. He was on the honor roll as a child and recently made the President’s List in college. My point…nothing was wrong with him.

    Today he is 28 years old, married and leading a full, productive life with hope, dreams and aspirations. How may babies time was cut short because of inconvenience?

    It’s a really good thing I did what I did. Later, after being a two time non-smoking lung cancer survivor and developing autoimmune disorders I lost my ability to bear children in my early 30′s. He was my only child. Had I aborted him, I would have been childless today.

    Heather, I love you blog. I just don’t vote on one issue…my life and experience has taught me better.

  • http://www.survivallady.com Betsy

    It does take a lot of courage to keep an unwanted baby – just as it takes a lot of courage to make the hard decision to terminate. The crux of the matter is it’s a personal decision and should continue to be. If we as women stood up and forced these candidates to stop blathering about things that shouldn’t be an issue and actually address a few things that are REALLY wrong with this country, it wouldn’t be such a hot button issue. They make this an issue and we let them. How do you plan on feeding hungry children? How do you plan on fixing our economic problems without bankrupting the middle class? How do you plan on giving us back our right to not be held without bail, and without representation? These are issues that don’t get addressed because they’re so busy diverting our attention with issues that should be between a woman, her partner and her doctor.


  • Aaron

    Right on Heather! I completely agree.

    Comment #33 from jill made my head explode.

    Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the United Nations in 1948, states that “everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of oneself and one’s family, including food, clothing, housing, and medical care.” (source: UN.org)

    I’m a Canadian and I realize I don’t have a say in this election. But I’m also a person whose mother spent 2 months in hospital this year undergoing countless medical tests and open heart surgery. All due to genetic – not lifestyle – reasons. If she lived in the US she would never have qualified for health care coverage and the hospital bills would have been at least $250K. Actual health-care premiums and hospital bills incurred: $0.

    In McCain’s own words from Wednesday night, “If you like that, you’ll love Canada and England.” That is the only area where he and I agree.

    Using jill #33′s argument, the appropriate response would have been: “Sorry, you’ve had a pretty good run but the only thing you deserve is a slow, agonizing death as breath by breath, you drown in your own fluids.”

    That is some Seriously Crazy And Disturbing Shit! I guess in this day and age where the Bush administration condones torture and detains supposed terrorists indefinitely without bringing forth charges, it shouldn’t surprise me this much to see this ignorance of basic human rights within the general population. But it does.

    And while I’m commenting here I can’t resist mentioning this other Canada-related take-away from the debate:
    Muslim oil: bad!
    Wonder-bread eatin’ Canadian oil: good!

    That wasn’t exactly McCain’s point (and Obama partially agreed with him) but that’s how it came across. If that’s how McCain’s going to approach international diplomacy the whole world should be very worried.

    Vote Obama, vote No on Prop 8! (even if I can’t)