For those who live with those like me
Yesterday Jon posted what I think is one of the best things he's ever written on his website about what it's like this second time around. A snippet:
My therapist told me a couple of years ago that she thought I suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) around pregnancy because of what we went through as a couple in 2004. I tend to believe her...
In 2007 we tried and were successful in getting Heather pregnant. She miscarried at 10 weeks and suffered some postpartum depression, which was totally understandable, but made me question if I had the reserves to handle severe postpartum depression again. I wanted to gear up for when we tried again. Once Heather’s system regulated and we decided we wanted a summer baby we went for it again and now we have our beautiful, sweet Marlo. Who deserves all the love and generosity we’ve shared with Leta.
If you haven't read the piece he wrote a couple of months after that miscarriage about what it's like to live with someone who suffers from chronic depression, you should definitely give it a look:
As a heterosexual man attracted to a woman, I have a range of emotions and ways of dealing with whatever life throws my way. One of those things is to look at a problem and want to fix it. Men like to be fixers, for the most part, and this is great for things like a clogged drain or dead car battery. Also great if the satellite dish isn’t picking up the latest “Nature is Sad” show on the educational channel because it’s buried in snow. It is not so great if your partner needs for you to help her by listening...
I’ve really had to stop myself and let it go. I have to tell myself that I need to LISTEN and to tell myself to SHUT UP. It’s doubly important when somebody is anxious or depressed and needs to get it out. I have only met a few men who are great listeners, and those were professionals I was paying to listen.
So. Listen.
I was interviewed a couple of days ago for a small piece about the Forbes thing for a local news station, and during the interview one of the questions triggered a response I haven't been able to articulate yet, that this pregnancy and delivery and now living with two kids... there are days when my love for Jon is almost unbearable, and I am so lucky and thankful to have him in my life. And I have glimpses and memories of those heady, crazy times when we first got together in the sweltering Los Angeles summer of 2001 when we were having sex all day every day YES I JUST WENT THERE and sometimes I look at my two little girls and I can't believe that here I am eight years later and I'm sitting next to Jon Armstrong.
Jon, I love you so much.
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Erica said:
That's beautiful, and I can only imagine. Thank you for sharing.
07.22.09 - 11:25 AM / 1Rena said:
This is such a sweet post!
07.22.09 - 11:25 AM / 2Milla said:
i love Jon, too! (does he have a brother?)
07.22.09 - 11:27 AM / 3Valerie W said:
Such a romantic, lovely post. I know exactly what you mean. Yay for amazing men.
07.22.09 - 11:29 AM / 4Erin said:
Maybe your next book can be about how love works.
07.22.09 - 11:29 AM / 5Megan said:
You are a blessed mama and wife!!
07.22.09 - 11:29 AM / 6Richelle said:
You are both amazing people! Thank you for sharing your lives with us!
07.22.09 - 11:30 AM / 7Anonymous said:
Eighth!
07.22.09 - 11:30 AM / 8Maeve said:
Love this post Heather! You both are so well-articulated!
07.22.09 - 11:30 AM / 9Erin said:
Chills!! Such a sense of appreciation and respect you two share for one another. You guys are gonna make it!
07.22.09 - 11:31 AM / 10becky said:
The love that you two share gives a hopelessly single gal like myself hope...
07.22.09 - 11:31 AM / 11Anne said:
I read his post yesterday and was once again blown away at how perfect you guys are together and being able to show that relationships take hard work with the love. Thanks for sharing, both of you. :) You guys are an amazing couple.
07.22.09 - 11:31 AM / 12jive turkey said:
Sometimes just listening is the hardest "simple" thing you've ever had to do.
And I feel the same way about my husband (it's our anniversary today). I can't believe I'm lucky enough to still be sharing my life with him.
07.22.09 - 11:31 AM / 13Cat said:
You guys are so lucky to have each other. I'm all choked up!
07.22.09 - 11:32 AM / 14Anonymous said:
I love the energy of people in love. Really in love. Through all the crap that you have to constantly wipe off your shoes, you two are doing it right. Thank you for showing us the good, bad and the ugly. It's all lovely.
07.22.09 - 11:33 AM / 15Elizabeth_K said:
It was a wonderful post by Jon, and a wonderful response by you. Truly a blessed marriage.
07.22.09 - 11:34 AM / 16Carly said:
Not only are you lucky to have each other, you're lucky to both have the ability to express those thoughts to each other so beautifully.
07.22.09 - 11:34 AM / 17lauren said:
i love how he loves you and you love him. i pointed my husband to his blog after i read that yesterday. he and jon are so similar and although we dont have children yet, he has been stuggling with my manic depression lately.
the two of you are a light in our tunnel.
07.22.09 - 11:34 AM / 18Alex Awesome said:
I love reading Jon's blog. It always reminds me how important men are - as partners and fathers - in our lives. His thoughtfulness and overwhelming love come through loud and clear. You're a wonderfully lucky person and so is he. Thanks for sharing all of this.
07.22.09 - 11:35 AM / 19Emily said:
Heather,
When I read Jon's post yesterday, I felt so much love coming from him. I commented about my feelings for the post, but I just wanted to tell you thank you for opening yourself up to the internet. You and Jon. No one has to do that, and for me, it's incredibly touching to read about this. It's also a learning tool for the day (if it comes) that I have children. If I ever had parents half as cool as y'all, I'd be a very happy spawn. (Hah, although I love my parents.)
Your July banner is beautiful and truly speaks the comfort and love seriously emanating from your home. (I know, I sound hippy-dippy but seriously, your posts speak a lot of happiness after Marlo's birth.) Congratulations and thank you.
07.22.09 - 11:35 AM / 20SwedishPankakes said:
So great! I really love how you two are going strong. Keep it up!
07.22.09 - 11:35 AM / 21Anonymous said:
I thought it was an awesome article too, I don't have kids but I read it yesterday and thought it was so well said.
07.22.09 - 11:36 AM / 22SEL said:
You just made me cry in my lunch...
07.22.09 - 11:37 AM / 23Tasha said:
I got tears in my eyes. That was very sweet.
07.22.09 - 11:37 AM / 24Becky..Absent Minded Housewife said:
In these days of Fireproof, Love Dare, Mars vs Venus, Five Love Languages and other silliness, it just goes to show that when love gets simple it gets great.
07.22.09 - 11:37 AM / 25Sheila said:
Beautiful!
You are all very lucky to have each other.
07.22.09 - 11:40 AM / 26Zoe said:
Guh!!! A married couple who actually express their love for one another. There is hope. I don't mean for that to sound nihilistic or anything; it's just that it seems so much more common to hear about the shortcomings, the difficulty, the imperfections of a relationship (especially a marriage), and it is really freaking refreshing to hear from the other side. It sort of renews my faith in love and makes me think, okay, neat, I won't have to be an old, lonely cat lady (though I can if I want to). I will find someone (I am only twenty, so I've got a while I guess). And it will be awesome. Epic-ly awesome. Like you guys.
07.22.09 - 11:40 AM / 27Tina Babb said:
You are very lucky to have a husband who is willing to listen and help you out. Some of us have the "It's all in your head and you can get over it" husbands.
07.22.09 - 11:41 AM / 28Serial said:
I wish I was having a better day, so I could just be happy for you guys rather than get all angry about not being able to find MY John.
Effing PMS.
07.22.09 - 11:41 AM / 29Julie said:
Jon's post yesterday seemed like an amazing observation resulting from years spent working on an already great relationship. You two have different ways of processing and seeing things, but it is so clear you both work so hard on this. Thanks to each of you for sharing such an honest journey. Yeah - I used the word "journey" without any irony or vomit in the back of my mouth.
07.22.09 - 11:43 AM / 30