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Working our angles

Scene: Lunchtime, Armstrong sitting to my left, Tyrant sitting to my right. Somehow the topic of chickens comes up, maybe because we're eating a chicken salad. Or maybe because I've been talking about nothing else since I found out we could raise our own in the backyard. I would name them after my personal heroes: this hen is Thom Yorke. And this one is Ramona Quimby. And that fancy one over there is The Avon World Sales Leader.

I say to Armstrong, you know, most people support the idea of chickens. I've heard a few horror stories, but the majority of the feedback has been overwhelmingly in favor of the idea. And the Internet always knows what it's talking about. You can trust that the Internet would not lie to us about chickens. If you do a Snopes search on chickens, turns out THEY ARE REAL.

Armstrong doesn't even flinch. He takes another bite of his salad, swallows, and then says, nope. We're not getting chickens. In fact, before we ever get chickens he'd string himself up by his nipples with a set of rusty nails and fishing wire and dangle from a pole over a den of angry Republicans.

Tyrant, having grown up on a farm in Southern California, reaches across me and my plate, waves his arm in front of Armstrong and says, "But I know chickens like the back of my hand. Lovely creatures, they are."

Have I mentioned I recently gave him a raise?

This time Armstrong clenches his jaw. He's not budging. He won't even say anything. At this point Tyrant has gotten up from the table and is throwing something away when he catches my glance and winks at me.

"Jon," he starts, "what if some anonymous person sent Heather some chicks in the mail? What would you do then?"

"EXACTLY!" I scream. "You couldn't just send them back! They'd die! And you couldn't just abandon them! They'd be homeless and alone! We'd HAVE to raise the chickens then!"

"Oh, we'd raise the chickens, alright," Armstrong says. "After I hire a private investigator, find out exactly who sent those chicks, and then show up at their house and punch them in the groin."

Any takers?

06.07.2010 Daily 107 comments

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  • Jeezus Beezus said:

    Soooo tempting...how do I fed ex a chicken? I'm sure the internet will tell me...

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    06.07.10 - 09:56 AM / 1
  • Fifi Coon said:

    Good Luck with that!!

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    06.07.10 - 09:59 AM / 2
  • eastcoaster said:

    We have 4 backyard chickens...they all have names..there were 6 when we started but one became lunch for a hawk, and the other died when I went away for a week...no cause of death determined...however, as much as I love love love the fresh eggs, ours are free range...im mean FREE RANGE....like around our yard...pooping on the deck...yeah, free to do whatever they want..becasue its SO MEAN to make them stay enclosed when we have ACRES for them to roam on...but alas, they still POOP ON THE DECK AND THE LAWN..they beg at the patio door to come in in the rain because they have discovered that we have tasty treats in the house and its definitly way cooler to look pathetic in the rain...IM NOT LETTING THEM IN >>>THEY HAVE A HOUSE>>>a really cool house...so, do I love them? No, do I like them, yes....but winter, when they are not laying and just pooping...ugh...makes me want to wring their necks...literally...;) Good luck!

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    06.07.10 - 10:03 AM / 3
  • CrisLawson said:

    oh my GOD. There is one of those shed companies nearby, and they have a little chicken type coop thing with chicken doors to go into their little sleepy nest space or out into the well fenced free area. It's red with little white touches like a barn. Ramona Quimby would LOVE IT.

    Sooooo what color chicks? I need an address if I'm gonna send 'em UPS. I think they run about 10 bucks a dozen here right now, but they won't guarantee the genders. I've seen 'black, buff and red.' So cute!

    Oh, and you'll need a little guard Llama, too, right? I mean, to keep the foxes away.

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    06.07.10 - 10:08 AM / 4
  • lady m said:

    The overwintering is something you may want to investigate.
    Aside from that -- when the cute itty bitty chicks arrive...they ARE SO CUTE!!!

    My mum suggests letting them listen to classical music to keep them calm and healthy and also that lemongrass essential oil is good for keeping the smell under control.

    Chickens can smell VERY BAD. Consider yourself warned.

    I'm still in the pro backyard (cooped, cooped for sure) chicken camp.

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    06.07.10 - 10:08 AM / 5
  • alittlecoffee said:

    Why's Jon so against the idea anyway?

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    06.07.10 - 10:11 AM / 6
  • Cheshire Kate said:

    ya know if I had the bucks I would so send chickens...if only because your hubby would never find me LOL. And because think of the PHOTO opportunities...Leta avoiding them like the plague, Marlo chasing them..Coco trying to herd them and Chuck balancing one on his head...and that is just off the top of my head...You NEED chickens!!!!

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    06.07.10 - 10:13 AM / 7
  • gbennett said:

    http://www.starvingofftheland.com/2010/06/06/motor...

    Yeah, I sent this to you in a email too. But check out this true life experience of chickens. Oh YUCK, I am so with Armstrong on this!

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    06.07.10 - 10:16 AM / 8
  • kristanhoffman said:

    Chicks might be great, but... do you really need more shit in your life? :P

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    06.07.10 - 10:19 AM / 9
  • apostate said:

    My brother bought a house next door to people who own chickens. Don't get chickens.

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    06.07.10 - 10:20 AM / 10
  • g.fox said:

    This has to be one of those "it's better to ask forgiveness than permission" scenarios. Get yoself some chickens, lady!

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    06.07.10 - 10:21 AM / 11
  • OrangeLily said:

    Keeping chickens in the yard smells very bad. We visited some neighbours of my husband's family who kept chickens in the yard. It stunk. And for all the neighbours around them too. As well as pissing off your neighbours, you may have by-law issues to deal with.

    You won't be able to let your children play in they backyard either, too unsanitary. Really.

    As nice an idea as it is, in practice, it's not.

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    06.07.10 - 10:22 AM / 12
  • QueenSarah said:

    Dear Jon,

    Please hold your ground. Chickens are malicious. Your wife will bitterly regret having any in her care. It bears repeating: Chickens are malicious. You can see it in their eyes.

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    06.07.10 - 10:25 AM / 13
  • sarahdoow said:

    It's true, I'm not speaking from experience, but I get the feeling that it's most fun just to like the idea of getting chickens.

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    06.07.10 - 10:26 AM / 14
  • missusclark said:

    um, Heather? Chickens have their good points, but there is something to think about before getting any: all sorts of animals like to eat them. You may wish to consider what you would say to Leta when you discover the bloody remains of Ramona Quimby or The Avon World Sales Leader after a raccoon eats their heads off. I've seen it up close and it ain't pretty. And we know you have raccoons around, now don't we?

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    06.07.10 - 10:26 AM / 15
  • omichaelmooreo said:

    I'd take one to the balls for the content a chicken farm would provide. Plus side? It would mean the Armstrongs in Boston. I can only imagine...

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    06.07.10 - 10:26 AM / 16
  • OldGrayMare said:

    Just order yourself some chicks, use Jon's credit card and order under his name. Then he can punch *himself* in the groin.

    (Sorry, Jon, I'm a chicken fan. They're a hell of a lot easier than dogs, honestly. And they give you presents. Most days of the week my breakfast is two fresh eggs from my own little banty hens, over easy on a piece of whole wheat toast. Yum.)

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    06.07.10 - 10:27 AM / 17
  • freckleface said:

    With all the crap going on your life with two kids, two dogs, a husband and a very demanding job, do you really need to add something else into the mix to make you crazy?? Chickens are dirty, smelly and gross, and don't you remember the study you posted yourself saying that free range eggs and chicken meat are less healthy than the alternative? Save yourself the trouble and just keep Ramona Quimby and friends in your thoughts, not in your backyard :)

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    06.07.10 - 10:46 AM / 18
  • Agent Scully said:

    I’m not sure why I care so much, but I’m really upset Jon won’t let you have a little chicken coop in the backyard. Think of the learning experience your children could have! Farm animals are completely different from pets, and would open up a whole new world to your kids. Sure, Leta probably wouldn’t go near the chickens, but she’d still learn a great deal.

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    06.07.10 - 10:48 AM / 19
  • kravos said:

    careful, buddy...some guys might take you up on that 'offer' erm, threat.

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    06.07.10 - 10:49 AM / 20
  • The Dalai Mama said:

    Chickens can't be worse than ducks. We had those growing up in the suburbs (I'm sure our neighbors loved us). At least chickens can give you eggs. They'll be pets that the girls will never forget and Coco could heard them. Win Win for everyone.

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    06.07.10 - 10:57 AM / 21
  • Nhiro said:

    On the one hand...
    Delicious eggs all the time.

    On the other hand...
    OHMYGOD THE SMELL.

    Tough decisions.

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    06.07.10 - 11:00 AM / 22
  • jwalk said:

    I would worry more about how Coco would take to the chickens rather than Jon...

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    06.07.10 - 11:01 AM / 23
  • Mini Purl said:

    ummm, what happens when it's time to roast a chicken? Could you really eat Thom York!?!?!?

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    06.07.10 - 11:02 AM / 24
  • Salt Salty Saltersen said:

    I grew up in So Cal on what was once (and no longer) the worlds largest farm (so the owners claimed). Though they were not the primary livestock, there were tens of thousands of chickens. Chickens were also pets for me until such time as my sister was pecked in the eye by a territorial and frightened hen. (My sister is okay now, but 9 year old girls weep an awful lot when they have to wear an eye patch.) The chicken disappeared and was a ranch hands dinner the very same night with my father's blessing

    Pro: Eggs, Con: Poop on eggs, Pro: insects in garden eaten, Con: plants in garden eaten, Pro: free high nitrogen manure, Con: free high nitrogen manure where you had intended to walk, sit, dine, and would not ever want to have high nitrogen manure, Pro: They eat grain, Con: They eat grain like miniature hogs spilling it everywhere and the grain comes in 40-50 sacks that must be lugged from feed store to car to house and stored where the mice and rats and moisture will not get at them, Pro: Children learn about another type of animals besides dogs, Con: Read about sister getting eye pecked, Pro: raising your own chicken meat, Con: Killing your own chicken meat, Con: did I mention the stink and the rats and the mice and poop and the pecking and the plant eating?

    They cluck and crow and fight and stink. They are funnier than all get out. They die for seemingly no apparent reason. They draw raccoons, foxes, and sometimes dogs. They carry any number of bacterial and fungal yuckness and are known to have both fleas and lice. They require special housing if you want them to survive the night and to lay eggs and a person to clean out the chicken poop covered everything within the housing. They single the weak out in their midst and peck and claw and eventually kill that member of the flock for sport.

    Sorry Heather, I have to go with Jon on this. Chickens suck.

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    06.07.10 - 11:05 AM / 25
  • CrystalB said:

    Do not waste your time/energy/money on baby chicks! Most places that sell chicks will also sell ready to lay hens! I've done both and its much cheaper to go with the ready to lay. I will admit that the chicks we raised produced better eggs but that could have been because we had a rooster at the time or it could have been all that chick starter feed we fed them before we realized we needed to switch feed or they'd never start laying! Man those were some fat hens.

    My daughter (22 months) loves our layers and routinely picks them up and hugs as many as she can find (we have 12). They are so easy to keep and quite tame actually (we have rode island reds).

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    06.07.10 - 11:05 AM / 26
  • TxSuzyQ said:

    Get ready. A dozen yellow baby chicks are en route to you as we speak! You're welcome.

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    06.07.10 - 11:12 AM / 27
  • workroom said:

    I side with Jon.

    I grew up with 3 horses, 6 chickens, 12 ducks and 2 goats... You are romanticizing chickens and need a reality check on what you're getting into...

    they will smell, coco will chase them or sit barking at them nonstop, Leta will have nightmares about them (especially after a local fox, owl, or bear or various other prowlers comes in and kills some... because, IT WILL HAPPEN-I came out to feed my ducks one time and 6 of them had their heads ripped off and were bloody carcasses thanks to an owl), you will need to clean their cages (or, I bet Jon will end up doing it because you'll be too busy)... you will need to buy feed, hay or shavings, keep their water filled (they will dump it)... you will need heating for the coop over winter, you will need somewhere to dump all of the pooped on bedding (and it better not be near the house because it attracts beaucoup flies, is unsanitary and, oh, did I mention the smell?)

    Actually, I changed my mind... you should get some... and for Jon's sake you make a rule that Tyrant will be 100% responsible for them and any problems that arise from them (and he cannot quit his job)... this should be an interesting venture...

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    06.07.10 - 11:24 AM / 28
  • Charmings Mama said:

    I'm with Jon. Our neighbors had chickens last summer, what a mess. He only put up a fence on the north side of his yard and left the south open, like he thought the chickens couldn't get out. Besides the chicken shit all over my walk and driveway and yard, we would occasionally find an abandoned egg and we were constantly chasing them out of our yard. Hubs says if the get more this summer he is going to get a bee-bee gun.

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    06.07.10 - 11:25 AM / 29
  • tracy said:

    I love the idea of having chickens. In theory. But the noise, stink, extra poop, stink, extra mouths to feed, stink, and the risk of bears being attracted to our yard & eating them? No thanks. I'll stick to my grocery bought, organic cage-free eggs.

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    06.07.10 - 11:27 AM / 30
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