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Celebrating Five Years of Public Stupidity, The Post

Today is the fifth birthday of this website. The very first post I wrote which has since been removed along with almost a half a year of posts ended with this poem:

Carnation milk is the best in the land;
Here I sit with a can in my hand.
No tits to pull, no hay to pitch,
You just punch a hole in the son of a bitch.

By everyone's favorite commenter, Anonymous.

I included this poem on that first post because I didn't know yet what I wanted to write about. I started this website as a place to throw around my creative energy, and this poem was one of the only ones I knew from memory (BYU should be proud of its alumni!). In the beginning my logic went like this: who wants to read about the sex I'm having with soap stars when I can recite poetry about milk cartons? The bigger story that never got told was why a soap star was sleeping with someone who was reciting poetry about milk cartons.

All of this is to say that under different circumstances this website could have turned into one dedicated to cows. I could have been a cow-blogger.

To celebrate this anniversary I wanted to open up comments around a discussion that has a lot to do with what has happened here over the last year, a topic I will be discussing on a panel at SxSW in Austin in less than two weeks. Never did I imagine that the website that once got me fired would one day bring in enough money that it would support my family. Never did I imagine that by the age of thirty I would be working my dream job.

At the same time I still consider myself first and foremost a stay-at-home-mom. That probably doesn't compute to some people and I'm sure it doesn't fit some people's definition of what a stay-at-home-mom is supposed to be, and that's fine, whatever. I still spend the majority of my time awake with my daughter, I still take her on long, leisurely walks in the morning and sit down at the table with her for every meal. My life after making this website ad-supported is not much different than my life before except that I now have adult company all day long. And I don't think I would have agreed to do this if changing my life that way had been required.

A couple days ago I got an email from a reader named Sara (hi Sara!) who asked if I'd comment on what law professor Linda Hirshman recently said on "Good Morning America" about how it's a mistake for educated women to stay at home with their kids. It's not a new argument, and my first reaction is: she's trying to sell something. I understand the basis of her argument, that by choosing to stay at home with our kids instead of using our education in a professional environment we are waving our middle fingers at the work feminists have been doing over the last century. But I don't agree with it.

So I went and read some of her work online, and she's always careful to point out that by claiming that we're making a choice to stay at home we are only copping out, that somehow the choice to stay at home is invalid. Wow! As a mother I've never heard that before! My choices are wrong! She should write a book about how she knows which choice is the best one. Oh wait! SHE HAS!

My reaction then, I guess, is that here is my middle finger and here is me waving it at Linda Hirshman. This IS my choice. It is mine. I want to be at home with my child, not because my husband said I had to want it, or because my mom said that I had to want it, or because I am blinded by society's bias toward women and their role in the family. I had the option of going to work outside the home or staying at home with my kid and I made a choice. I don't think I've ever done anything more fundamentally feminist than exercising that choice.

The real crime here is not that educated women are choosing to stay at home with their children, it's that many women who want to stay at home aren't able to because of their circumstances. I know how lucky I am to have options. And it is in those options that I as a woman have power, power to choose the direction of my life, power to wave my middle finger at anyone who thinks it is their right, their moral compulsion, or their obligation to a seemingly fascist ideal to tell me how to live my life.

What I want to know in comments is what did your mother do? Did your mother stay at home? Did she work? And how did you feel about what she did? If you could change anything about what she did what would that be?

Also, what do you hope your daughters grow up to do?

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  • Frema said:

    I started to read all these amazing comments but realized there's only so many hours in the work day....

    During my childhood, my father worked odd sorts of jobs--cab driver, flower guy on the highway--until he became a firefighter for the Chicago Fire Department when I was seven years old. In addition to this, he spent his time away from the fire house doing construction jobs on the side. And for 95 percent of this, my mother stayed home. Just last fall she took a job with my youngest sister's former elementary school as a bus monitor. She works from about ten to four and loves saying that she has somewhere to go during the day and that she can finally contribute to their finances.

    When I was younger, our house (apartment, actually) was the one where all the neighborhood kids wanted to be because my mom was one of the rare few who stayed home. She made cookies, cooked dinner, knew our friends and our schedules. In high school I was a good kid but got pretty wrapped up in my first real boyfriend, and if it wasn't for her constant nagging on where I was, who I was going to be with, were parents going to be around, etc., there's a good chance I'd be the mother of a 10-year-old child by now, fathered by a man who was umemployed and still living in his mother's basement by the time I finished my bachelor's degree.

    When I was younger, I always thought my mom stayed home because my dad wanted her to. It wasn't until I was older that I realized she was exactly where she wanted to be. However, since they had me so young (19) and struggled for so long, neither of them had the chance to further their educations, which is why they're both so adamant about all of us kids going to college. I wish BOTH of them could've done that.

    My fiance and I are getting married in May and know we want to start our family soon. I have a master's degree and job that has great pay and benefits, but I want to be a SAHM so badly I could cry. However, I'm not willing to sacrifice everything to do that. I want to have the means to be able to help them pay for college so they're not drowning in debt after graduation. I'm paying over five hundred dollars a month to Sallie Mae because my parents had four other mouths to feed in addition to mine and there was no extra money for stuff like that. I'm not angry about it, but that doesn't mean I want my kids to be in the same position. Also, I want Luke and I to have a retirement account. My parents have always lived paycheck to paycheck, no savings, so they don't have anything but my dad's pension to depend on. They're nervous about that. I don't want that to happen to Luke and me.

    Once they actually exist, I hope my children have the means to make the best choices for their families, whatever those choices may be. And I really, REALLY hope they aren't saddled with debt. :)

    02.28.06 - 06:39 AM / 1
  • Adrienne said:

    Now that that's out of the way, my mom was a SAHM, except for when my dad was unemployed for a short while, then she had a part time job. I always thought it was great that she was there when I got home from school - my mom's work never got in the way of me getting to go somewhere or do something with friends, and I'm sure that her being home was a major reason for my doing so well in school. Of course, I also hated her always "nagging me" by asking me so many questions (as intrusive as "how was your day?" in my teenage years). I do wish she would have gotten a job when I got older. Not so she'd leave me alone, but because she had (and still has) self-esteem issues now that stem from not having worked in 20+ years.

    At age 22 and an only child, I feel forced to seek a career rather than staying home. Like I'd be letting down the family if they knew my major dream was really to be a mom, not a corporate superstar. I hope my daughters, if I have some, don't feel the pressure I do to hold up a status quo - I hope they do what is best for them individually, even if I don't like it so much.

    02.27.06 - 03:54 PM / 2
  • The Queen Mama said:

    I was the youngest of three children, and my mom stayed home with us for nearly all of my childhood. I never realized just how hard she worked at it until after my third son was born last year. (thanks, Ma!)

    I could give you so many reasons why I'm glad Mom did what she did, but I have one particular memory that crystallizes the whole thing for me.

    I was 15 and a sophomore in high school. It was a warm, breezy spring day, so I was helping Mom hang some sheets out on our clothesline. And I was feeling mighty restless.

    A few of my friends had been experimenting with sex, and I was starting to feel some pressure. Not to mention, the curiosity over the whole situation was getting to me. I was just on the cusp between "What's the big deal, anyway?" and barely being able to keep from flinging myself at my dance partner in show choir. At that point I hadn't even been properly kissed yet. So the angst over this topic was hitting boiling point.

    Mom knew something was up, and asked me what was on my mind. Now I could've gone all moody teen girl and clammed on her, but maybe because she had been with me all along, as close to 24/7 as a mom can get without making her kid a head case, I chose to talk.

    To this day I don't remember a lot of particulars about the conversation. I remember her listening closely without freaking out on me (must've been tough!), and the even, measured look on her face as she was choosing her words to me. Mostly I remember how much better I felt after we talked.

    Trust me, it was a conversation that, had she not been there to participate in it mindfully, could have deeply altered the course of my life.

    I'm so glad she was there for me. Even though it meant us giving up a lot of material things as individuals and as a family. When I was a teenager I sometimes wished Mom worked so we could have more of the stuff other people seemed to have. But looking back? I honestly can't think of anything I would change. I hope my boys have the same perspective when they grow up.

    02.27.06 - 06:34 PM / 3
  • Charles Hawtrey said:

    Wow, comments! Go figure.

    My mother works as a daycare provider, so staying at home *was* working. Someday when I have daughters, I hope they grow up to do whatever they want. Hopefully not something soul-sucking.

    02.27.06 - 03:56 PM / 4
  • Tracey said:

    My mom worked. She had to...but she wasn't really the stay at home type (whatever THAT is, right?) She worked in a factory, and I knew that I never wanted that for MY life. But I think she enjoyed it, so who am I to say what I wish she would have done? I can't really speculate on how it would have been had she stayed home, because it just wasn't her.

    I stay home with my kids too. And I totally agree with you that the whole feminist movement was to give women CHOICES, and this is a perfectly valid choice. I don't think it's the universal best choice, but it's what works for me and my family right now. I am going to school part time so that when my kids are in school I am doing something. But again, that's my choice and I don't think that every woman better get back to work when her kids are in school.

    I hope my daughter grows up to do whatever the hell she wants, as long as it makes her happy. And it doesn't involve selling her body.

    02.27.06 - 03:59 PM / 5
  • Dilbert said:

    My mom was a stay at home mom and although I didn't realize it then, it was great. My wife is extremely well educated (can you say 16 years!) and since we had our kids she has changed professions and now works part time so that she can be at home with our kids. This was her decision, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for it. She definitely has the harder job.

    02.27.06 - 03:59 PM / 6
  • Judy said:

    I'm close to first. My mom was a teacher for 2 years until my older sister was born, then she stayed home with us. She started substitute teaching when I was in junior high, but even then she was home with my sister and I 90% of the time. I'm glad she was home with us, but then I don't know any different. All I know is my friends whose moms worked, they said they wished their moms stayed home like mine did.

    I don't have daughters yet, but if I ever do, I hope they grow up to do whatever they want. I would hope that they get a good education, but whether they choose career or staying home with my grandchildren, I hope that they are able to make the choice that makes them happy.

    02.27.06 - 03:59 PM / 7
  • meninaprons said:

    My mom was a stay at home mom, due to her Lupus and arthritis when I was in grade school. Being a kid, you don't understand that stuff, but looking back, I realize how comforting it was to have her ... or someone at home when I came home from school.

    I hope that my daughter (if I ever get one) will do what she feels is right. Sorry to be non-committal on that, but it's how I feel.

    02.27.06 - 04:00 PM / 8
  • mom on a wire said:

    You know, I just hope my daughters grow up to love and appreciate who they are. It sounds completely sappy, but I've spent so much of my life wishing I was someone else and I don't want them to go through that. They could work at McDonalds, but if they were happy and fulfilled I would call that a success. :)

    02.27.06 - 04:00 PM / 9
  • Kate said:

    Happy Fifth Anniversary of the blog. I discovered you through my sister and I am glad I did.

    In answer to your question...my mom took six years off to raise my sister and I. When she went back to work, it was part time, then full time. It also helped that she was a teacher - in the same Catholic school we were attending. It was not until I was 11 years old (I am 27 now) that I was a real latchkey kid.

    I liked having Mom home for those early years. And as I got older, it was great during the summer cause we had mom home all the time. :)

    02.27.06 - 04:01 PM / 10
  • Lola said:

    I first decided that I wanted to be a SAHM when I realized that raising my children and "raising them well" would be my legacy.

    I realized this after meeting my friend Erica's mother. Erica was smart, funny and incredibly gifted. Her mother was brilliant and on her way to becoming an incredible Doctor and Scientist when she decided to stay home with her three daughters. All of them are amazing women.

    I respected her choice because I witnessed her amazing legacy and in that moment -- I knew that this was the legacy I wanted to leave.

    I wasn't going to be a great lawyer. I knew I didn't have it in me. I do know that I have potential to be an incredible mother and I can't wait to have that opportunity.

    02.27.06 - 04:01 PM / 11
  • hopefulloser said:

    My parents are both educators and it afforded them to work and have a lot of time to be at home with us, so it was really a good combination. I felt like I had more time with my parents than most of my friends. We traveled a lot and did so much together as a family and I hope to provide the same for my daughter (who's only a day older than Leta! Hi Leta!).

    I work a lot now but wish that I could be home with my daughter, but at least we can afford to have my husband home with her. He's a stay at home dad 100% of the time because I can make more money than him. :-)

    I want my daughter to be able to do whatever she wants. I agree with your sentiment completely that circumstances prevent us from being able to have that choice most of the time.

    02.27.06 - 04:01 PM / 12
  • sita said:

    My mother stayed home with my sister and I until we were in 1st grade. IF I get around to having children of my own (I'm 30 and working on my PhD so I can hopefully do the academic schedule which is relatively conducive to having kids, I think) I want to be around, especially for the early years - although I don't know how good I'd be at it.

    I couldn't agree more with your comments, Heather. I thought this whole feminism business was so that we could HAVE choices.

    02.27.06 - 04:01 PM / 13
  • Madonnalisa Chan said:

    What I want to know in comments is what did your mother do? My mother worked until the day I was born and then had 3 kids in a row. She didn't go back until the youngest was in Kindergarten. And she continued working as a school librarian for about 20 years. She just retired a couple years ago. It was awesome to have mom available to us. It was great over the summer to do things in and around town with all our cousins(since their parents worked). Sometimes I wished she opted for a law library with better pay and more prestige and something really cool to talk about. We had a very modest upbringing but I'm glad my parents made the sacrifices since we never were never home alone. My mom had some cool options and us three kids were the deciding factor.

    If I had daughters, I think I would encourage them to do what their heart tells them and that choices always have both good and bad consequences. When that time comes for them I hope I can help them step through the possible consequences and the impact of their emotions and the family's well-being.

    Thanks for sharing how you feel about the topic. My husband and I have been also debating this topic since we both had different upbringings.

    02.27.06 - 04:02 PM / 14
  • Carolina Blue said:

    My mom worked two jobs, one of which was an in-home day care until my sister (the youngest of three) was born, at which point she made the day care full time. She wanted to stay at home with us, and she's still glad she made the decision. At the same time I think it gave her too little financial freedom, and it was one reason she didn't leave my horrid father until I was 16. But my mom was my best friend and I thought she was the most beautiful, amazing person in the world until other things came between us. When I got home from school, she was the first person I wanted to see.

    I hope I have the opportunity to stay home with my kids. I'd like, more than that, to have the opportunity to volunteer in the community, doing the things I want to do as a career (junior in college here) for free, etc.

    I think if there was anything I could change about the way I was raised it would be to give my mom the emotional, financial and mental freedom to get away from my dad earlier, when I wasn't old enough to resent her for the problems that came from it. I would make my mom stronger.

    But we're best friends today, and I wouldn't go back for any amount of money if it would change that fact.

    Leta is lucky. The most important thing is that you and Jon love each other and that you love HER. Everything else will come out in the wash. Regardless of what the militants say (and I AM a militant feminist) that is the most important thing. That is what will make you a role-model for Leta. You go.

    02.27.06 - 04:02 PM / 15
  • victoria said:

    My mom stayed at home & took care of us. I think that not having any socially recognized work outside the home ate away her self-esteem, made her prone to depression, left her isolated and relatively friendless, and, honestly, weakened her faith in herself to such an extent that really wasn't as capable as she should have been, even in terms of being a mother and a housekeeper. Our house was a mess (it was so bad that we couldn't have friends over), her moods were unpredictable and sometimes scary, there was never a sit-down meal of any kind, ever (and when I say "never" a sit-down meal, I'm including holidays), I went to school hungry and in dirty clothes (and my family was affluent), all because my mother had so little faith in herself she couldn't get organized to do simple domestic tasks.

    I don't think that every mother should work outside the home. But for some mothers, the isolation and lack of social recognition that sometimes happens when they stay at home to raise kids can be soul-killing.

    02.27.06 - 04:02 PM / 16
  • LauraSt said:

    My mother worked her butt off at several different jobs (including odd ones that required work at home). I think I appreciated it at the time. I certainly realized how hard she worked, especially since most of the other tasks (cooking, cleaning, etc.) fell to me.

    Once she found out that I was making more than her per hour at a summer job than she was at her full-time job.

    And now I'm about to be graduated from medical school (I'm about to become one of those non-human women surgeons ;)) and I owe it to my mother's shining work ethic. Sure, she never did any "normal" mother stuff, but she kept us clothed, fed and happy.

    In my life, I'll have to schedule a family. My career choice will never let me be a stay at home mom, much less a very involved one (at least five years of 80+ hour work weeks ahead of me). Which is why having a family will be a hard choice for me. But I certainly will *never* disdain or look down upon those who choose to stay at home with their children. You have my pride and my jealousy.

    And my daughters will do whatever makes them happy. Unless of course that involves hitting the crack pipe and attempting to be the first person to reach the South Pole in the nude...

    02.27.06 - 04:03 PM / 17
  • Starla Dear said:

    Heather,

    Love your site. Congratulations on your choice of being a SAHM. All the controversy around this subject frustrates me -- women should just support each other in their life choices and not write books giving some women grief over the choice they made. I am a CPA and have a great career, but can't wait to give it all up to be a SAHM in a year or two.

    My mom was a SAHM as well -- I felt that we were especially close as a family and had many other benefits because of it. My mom is one of my best friends. I think the only regret she had was that she didn't have a college degree or a career that she could go back to, at least part-time, once we were in school. She feels bad sometimes now that we're grown that she can't contribute the same way financially that my dad can.

    02.27.06 - 04:03 PM / 18
  • mousey said:

    My mom wanted desperately to be a stay at home mom, but things didn't work out for her to be able to do that, so she's always had to work as long as I've been alive. For the most part, I really wish she could have stayed home, because it's what she wanted for herself. There's nothing to teach you independence and self-reliance like having a single mother, but I've hated seeing her have to work such hard, labor-intensive jobs, and she would have been a kick-ass SAHM (just like she is, but maybe with a little less stress and fatique.) If I could change anything, I would hope that the circumstances would have worked out so that she could do what she wanted to do, not what she had to do.

    I would hope my daughters would grow up to do whatever made them happy and fulfilled, whether it's SAHM or leader of the free world.

    02.27.06 - 04:04 PM / 19
  • dotti said:

    My mom was a SAHM in a way.. she owned and ran 2 adult foster care homes for the mentally ill and an elderly care facility.. We lived in the basement of one of the AFC homes and had 6 residents that lived upstairs.. My mom basically ran the homes from home.. except when she wanted to leave or we went on vacation, then we had workers. I am really glad this was how my life was.. i am an only child and got tons of attention along with many great memories of my mom always being around. I wouldnt change it if i could. I hope to some day be able to stay at home with my children and hopefully if my kids want that when they have children of their own... they are able to make it happen.

    02.27.06 - 04:04 PM / 20
  • Ang said:

    My mother stayed home about a year after I was born, because my brother was only 11 months old when I arrived, so she had two non-walking kids in diapers. But after a year, she said she was just going batty. She needed a separate place to go everyday with a different structure or whatnot, I don't know. She's always worked as far as I could remember, and I don't recall ever resenting it or wishing she were around more. She was home after I got home from school. My family couldn't afford not to have both adults working.

    I hope not to have kids, but I hope other people are able to do what they can and what is right for them. Ideally, we all would like the opportunity to truly be able to choose how we want to live, but the reality doesn't always allow that.

    I really have no idea what I would do if I ended up spawning.

    02.27.06 - 04:04 PM / 21
  • greenshagfloor said:

    Hey Heather.... First off, welcome home. Looks like you guys had a blast.

    My mom stayed home and raised five kids. When she eventually chose to go to work, the sneaky old bird got a job at the school we all attended so she could stay close to us (read: watch our every move and make sure we didn't commit any felonies). It was her choice and hers alone. It was of course, a different era and my dad made enough money to comfortably support us but she has insisted over and over that she would have made the same decision even if we were dirt poor. As a stay-at-home dad, I can tell you I feel the same way. My wife simply made more and had better health benefits than me so the choice was simple. With 3 years in the rear view, I wouldn't change a thing. We have made numerous sacrifices which I am sure you can relate to. We could have a lot more material things right now but watching my son grow on a daily basis is fair trade. I do, on occasion, burn a bra or two but it is wholly unrelated.

    02.27.06 - 04:04 PM / 22
  • erika said:

    My mom stayed at home with us. I really, really wish I could stay home with my 4-month old daughter but we just can't afford it at the moment. Luckily, my husband is between semesters at school and he can stay home with her. It's much better than day care and I dread the day we have to send her to one. And unless I win the lottery, that day will come sooner than my heart will take.

    02.27.06 - 04:05 PM / 23
  • Jackie said:

    My mother was a stay at home mom mostly. That is to say, whenever my father's company went on strike, she was right out there, supporting all 5 of us - doing what had to be done. As soon as that strike was over, she was right back at home with us kids. Not because she had to, wasn't educated enough, or was lazy - but because she couldn't imagine a better use of her time than being there for us every waking moment. She was an inspiration to me, and now that I have my own child, I have done everything in my power to build a business that allows me to stay home.

    Why should I miss a single moment in my daughter's life if I don't have to? They are only children once. No, I'm not lazy or under-educated either. I am a college graduate, and a single mother. I own my own business and it isn't making me millions, but it's enough.

    It made me happy as a child to come home everyday knowing my mom was there with cookies waiting to ask me how my day went. There were times as a teen that I didn't take certain risks or get into trouble with my friends because I knew my mom always greeted me at the door and talked to me about how my friends were doing. It kept me on the straight and narrow.

    For my daughter, when she gets to be my age, I only want her to be one thing - happy. And if happy means she is going to stay at home with 5 kids while her husband works 100 hours a week, then so be it.

    Good for you Heather for doing what you are. You and Jon are doing what is best for YOUR family - don't try to let anyone tell you any different.

    02.27.06 - 04:06 PM / 24
  • Michelle said:

    My mother worked. My parents were also divorced when I was 5. I never gave it much thought until I lived with my grandparents for a few years after the divorce. My grandmother was always home, and took me to junior theater and ballet and swimming and a wide variety of other things. Things kids in day care after school didn't ever get to do. If I could choose now I would want my mom home when I got home from school. _If_ I have kids I want to be in a job that has a flexible enough schedule to allow me to at least be there when they come home. Prior to the divorce I went to day care or preschool. I liked school and I liked day care. it was pretty much all I had known. If I had to put my kids in preschool or day care I would, but hopefully only for half a day.

    02.27.06 - 04:06 PM / 25
  • Jen S said:

    I have a master's degree in English and I'm a stay-at-home mom and freelance graphic designer. After the birth of my first child, I remained working, though I was able to go to part time. Last year I had my daughter and I made the decision to stay home with my kids after having her.

    I've thought a lot about this very topic. Do I feel it's a waste of a good education to stay at home with my kids? Abso-fucking-lutely not. Do I feel like I have SO much to share with my kids, to educate them and let them have the influence of a mother who is not only intelligent but creative and fun and willing to spend time with them (rather than shuttle them off to be cared for by someone else)? Yes, of course.

    My own mother worked pretty much my entire life; my brother and I were latch-key kids, and I hated it and always wished I'd had more time with my mom. I think it would have perhaps made me closer to her than I am today. (Not necessarily, but I like to think it might have helped.)

    Happy 5th anniversary, Heather. You have inspired me more than you will ever know. Congratulations on finding your dream job.

    02.27.06 - 04:07 PM / 26
  • Ariel said:

    My mother worked her ass off as a licenced midwife for most of my childhood. My father loves to tell the story of finding me one morning on the phone at age 7, and asking me what I was doing. "I'm arranging my childcare," I answered. That was how it worked when mom had to rush off to deliver someone's baby at 6am on a school day.

    Granted, I hated it the whole time. Other people's mom's made them cookies! I was a lonely latchkey kid.

    Now, however, I appreciate it immeasurably. I'm endlessly inspired by all that my mother managed to do while raising me (nursing school! midwifery school! starting a business! founding a national organization!), and I have to go back every once and a while and pat the younger me on the head and say "buck up, kid: she loves you and this is part of how she's showing it ... by being an inspiration to you, even if you don't know it now."

    As we hurdle towards having a kid of our own, I wrestle with the issues. I think I'd go crazy staying at home (my periods of freelancing from home have been ... unhealthy for me), but I don't like the alternatives. I have no answers. But I'm happy to see comments back!

    02.27.06 - 04:07 PM / 27
  • ash said:

    My mom went to work and I don't think it bothered her. She was always able to get off when anything big was happening with either my brother or I. I don't think she would do it differently either. I mean if she could have stayed home I know she would have because she has never really liked her job. But she was always lucky enough to get off when it was needed. I also wouldn't have it anyother way. I love my mother, but I know now that she had to go to work and she loved me and that is why she went to work.

    I home my daughter does whatever she thinks is best. As long as she loves her children the way my mom does me, I know things will be ok.

    02.27.06 - 04:07 PM / 28
  • Karen said:

    My mom did a little of both during my growing up years depending on our ages and our family's financial situation. While I'm sure that she probably hoped that her daughters would stay home with their children she has always encouraged us to do what is best for ourselves and families.

    I have a degree in social work and practiced for three years before having my first child. Staying at home was a welcome relief from the job stress and I've had no desire to go back. I feel like I've enjoyed the best of both worlds in the timing that was right for me.

    Holy freaking wow! I'm commenting on Dooce! Hi mom!

    02.27.06 - 04:07 PM / 29
  • kimmie said:

    Hi Heather! My mom worked outside the home the entire time I was growing up. She either worked for other companies or for my dad's company. Then they divorced and she has worked as an AR accountant pretty much ever since.

    Praise God my mom did not do the stay-at-home thing with me. I'm 39 and I guess it was on the new side to have a mom that worked completely fulltime. But I'd be much more neurotic if she'd been in my life more. If I hadn't had an escape from her. She might actually have succeeded in killing herself from the stress of being a mom more than she was.

    I have made the choice, like you, to work at home to be a pseudo SAHM. I have an office that I can go to - I own my own company with a partner. He works in the office and I work at home. I have an MS in engineering. The difference between us is that I send my children away during the day. My son is in kindergarten and my daughter just turned 3. She goes to mothers day out at two different churches and a friend also keeps her two afternoons a week. If I had to be with my children more I'd lose it. I'm just not good at it.

    But working at home gives me freedom to choose when I do have the emotional energy to be around them and not ruin them. I'm glad I have this option. I would not have had children had I thought I'd have to work 8-5 and have my kids in care from 7-6. I need the choice of when to be with them. BOY am I SPOILED!

    Thank goodness for my degrees, for my employment, for my partner, for my husband, for my antidepressants, and for my children. and for dooce.

    02.27.06 - 04:08 PM / 30
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