Healthy sleep habits, grumpy baby
If Jon and I decide to try and have another child there are so many things that I will do differently. At the top of that list is WILL NOT INTRODUCE GUMMY BEARS INTO THE DIET. For the last month we have heard nothing but Leta's plaintive gummy bear song, a mournful yearning for her favorite food that we now deny her because she refuses to eat anything else. "Gubby bers?" she'll ask while nodding her head furiously perhaps thinking that the rhythmic motion of her head will hypnotize me and bend me to her will. And when I say no, not until you eat something else, something containing actual nutritional content, she'll ask again only this time emphasizing each syllable slowly in case I didn't understand. "Guuuub-byyyy berrrrrs?" It always sounds like, "What part of gummy bears don't you understand, Earthling?"
There is one thing, however, that I hope I get right the second time around as well as I did with Leta, and when I talk about this I'm going to be walking barefoot into an area littered with land mines. Leta sleeps 12 hours a night and takes a two hour nap every day. She has been sleeping this well since she was six months old. Occasionally she'll have a bad nap or wake up early (see: tin foil solution) but for the most part her sleeping schedule has been a stabilizing constant in our lives. Whenever anyone accuses Leta of being grumpy because she's tired I want to stand up for her and set them straight: do not give fatigue credit for her grumpiness, she is grumpy despite her well-restedness. That is determination.
It wasn't easy getting her to sleep this well, and what we had to go through to get her to this point is one of the many factors that led me to check myself into a mental hospital. But what we did worked and it was the only thing that would work for her. I never discussed in detail the 15 days of hell that we had to endure to get Leta to sleep more than two hours at a time because at that period in her life I was in a very bad, very dark place and I knew that I would be judged if I talked about it. Since this seems to be the week to answer frequently asked questions I thought I would go ahead and talk about it especially since I now have distance from it and I am no longer emotional about it.
When I sat down to write this, however, I realized that I had forgotten some of the specifics of what we went through. That is part of the self-preservation of parenthood, the fuzziness of memory that makes it possible to move forward. So I went back into my email archives and found an email I had written to a another new mother while we were going through Leta's sleep training. She had written asking for help in getting her six-month-old to sleep at night. This is an excerpt from that email:
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Getting Leta to sleep through the night was what sent me over the edge. I was coping somewhat before we decided to take away her pacifier, but after those two grueling weeks I lost it. My first piece of advice: be prepared for some trauma, on your part.
I have read and re-read all the sleep books. All of them. This book and this book are the ones I finally decided to use. At Leta's four-month check-up her doctor asked me if she was still getting up twice a night, and I was like, OF COURSE she is, doesn't every four-month-old get up twice a night? But in Leta's case it was twice and sometimes three times and sometimes six or seven times because of that damn pacifier. Her pediatrician told me that she was old enough to go a whole 12 hours at night without feeding. I thought he was insane.
Leta could only fall asleep with the pacifier, and if she woke up and it wasn't in her mouth she couldn't go back to sleep, and then sometimes when I put it back into her mouth she was awake enough already that the only way she would go back to sleep was if I breastfed her. And it just got worse and worse and there were a couple weeks there when I was feeding her four and five times a night, and then she wouldn't eat the next day. It was totally fucked up, and I knew I had to do something because I was going crazy.
So I finished reading the Ferber book, and I decided one Sunday afternoon that we were going to start that night. If I even thought about the pain that we were going to go through I knew I wouldn't do it, so I turned to Jon and said THAT'S IT. No more pacifier. Except, it wasn't just the pacifier. We took away her pacifier and we reduced the night feeding and we sleep trained her ALL AT THE SAME TIME. They were all the same problem essentially.
So we took away the pacifier and I gradually reduced the night feedings, letting her eat for only a couple minutes each side when she woke up in the night. Every single time we put her down for a nap or for bedtime she screamed. And screamed. And screamed. The books say that it should all be over with in a few days. But those books? They lie.
We decided that at night she had to sleep at least six hours before I would go in and feed her, and then the feeding would be really short. And then after that feeding she wouldn't get another one for at least four hours. So she would wake up after two hours of being down at night and we let her scream. And she screamed and screamed and screamed and we didn't go back in. And then she would scream two hours after that and I wouldn't go back in because it had only been a total of four hours since her bedtime. That happened probably five days in a row, and then she eventually started sleeping eight and nine hours without waking up, and when she did wake up I would feed her for two minutes and put her right back down. The eight-nine hours slowly became 10-12 hours, and it was finally over.
The only way we could do it was to let her scream. We couldn't go back in. We tried going back in several times to soothe her and it only made things worse. So much worse. So we set goals. First it was six hours, then it was eight hours, and then it was 10. It worked. I wasn't going to cut out all night feedings for Leta until six months, but she started sleeping 12 hours in a row by herself. I think she figured out that she was only going to get two minutes of boob and it wasn't worth it anyway.
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Can you see the land mines?
Here's the thing: it worked for us. It might not work for someone else. I have always been of the opinion that you have to do what works for you in order to survive, that there is no one right way. This is how we survived, and now for twenty months we have had night after night of uninterrupted sleep.
How does your child sleep? What worked for you?
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Heather said:
Thanks for always being so candid with your life. Please don't change that because you're afraid of the land mines.
03.31.06 - 09:36 AM / 1marian said:
We used the Ferber program after seven months of nursing every hour or two all night long. It was AGONY. But, it worked. It took about 5 nights, if I recall, most of which I spent weeping on the living room floor as I listened to my son scream.
Then, when he'd go through a growth spurt, or a teething bout, we'd have to start from scratch it seemed, but it wouldn't take as long. He never was a good sleeper, and truth be told he was up at least once a night til he was two, but that was a VAST improvement. That I could live with...
He's always been a good pooper though, and a good eater. So I figure every kid has something.
03.31.06 - 09:40 AM / 2Vera said:
I overheard a conversation recently where somebody said they knew somebody who just lets their baby scream. Both people involved in the conversation were completely appalled. But I was thinking "What if it works? It might work." Since I don't even have my own children, of course I was too chicken to say anything.
I'm glad you decided to do what works for you AND to not be a chicken and share it with us.
03.31.06 - 09:42 AM / 3Jewels said:
I wish I had done this with my middle child. With my first, I hovered over her constantly. I was only 20 and I was clueless. So I just didn't sleep a lot. But she did. My middle one wanted to visit all night. I really thought I was going to lose my mind. However, when my third child came along, I took to the let him scream theory; primarily because I was just flat worn out by that time. It is SO hard not to get up for a screaming baby. However, between 4-6 months, they don't need to eat that often, especially at night. So yeah, letting them scream totally works. I just wish I had known this with the first two. It took about 2 weeks but then he slept a good 8-9 hours.
03.31.06 - 09:44 AM / 4BigA said:
Bed times always non-negotaible. No drinks of water read me a book etc. Just worked for ours.
03.31.06 - 09:45 AM / 5Mrs. Ricardo said:
We did essentially the same thing with both our kids. It worked for us too. I agree with the not going in an out bit. It does make it worse for everyone. It took a little longer to accomplish with our first, our daughter but with our son it was even easier. Both kiddos went from co-sleeping and eating at the all-night Deli (i.e. Me - Mom) to sleeping peacefully in their crib. Our Daughter is 3.5 and STILL takes a 2-hour nap. How great is that?! Bedtime is 7pm and wakeup is 7am, like clockwork.
Thanks for braving the landmines, yet again. The world needs honest people like you.
03.31.06 - 09:46 AM / 6sleepy said:
Our first is almost 12 months and we're getting up 1-2x/night. I've read, reread the Healthy Sleep Habits book and agree with most everything (except his writing style leaves something to be desired for tired parents). She goes down early and awake, but still wakes up sometimes 11ish and 4ish, sometimes only 2ish. We feel like we've tried everything to lose the middle of night wake up - but we've only lasted 4 nights. So, thanks for your words as it encourages us to keep trying, be patient and wait her out.
03.31.06 - 09:48 AM / 7BigA said:
Oh yeah - and we never gave either of them pacifiers ever. Not sure why we were lucky enough to get away with it but we did. We paid for it in other ways but I think in the long run it avoided all kinds of other battles.
03.31.06 - 09:49 AM / 8Thérèse said:
You know... you do what you have to do.
I don't see anything wrong with what you did. Stressful for you, yes, but wrong? Not even a little.
Thanks for being so candid, Heather. It helps others in similar situations when you are, especially given that you have such a widespread audience.
03.31.06 - 09:50 AM / 9Teachbroeck said:
My daughter was sleeping all night by 4 weeks. (ALL LUCK no parenting skill involved) Then she lapsed at about 6 months. I did something similar, but I started sitting on the floor...then by the doorway...the out of sight. I wanted her to know I was there, but it was not time to get up. Seems so easy looking back, but I remember silently sobbing with my hand through the crib spindles rubbing her back... sobbing on the floor outside her room fighting the urge to scoop her up. Within a week the pattern seemed to work. As she got older if she did cry in the night I would rub her back but not pick her up. So many of my friends have "family beds" ...it just didn't work for me. Even now she is 6 and the few times I have let her in my bed (sick, bad dreams) she always finds her way back to her bed. The downside of this is she NEVER falls asleep unless in a bed. Not in the car ((even when I got her up at 4:30 am to go to travel 10 hours to St. Louis...even in front of a movie if I am sick or she has a sleep over) Rereading this post I feel like I sound COLD...I feel like I have to prove how much I love my daughter and nurture her on many levels....and give in to her other ways ...but it's what worked...and I am sure my next baby won't sleep for years and everything I said will backfire!
03.31.06 - 09:50 AM / 10Teachbroeck said:
My daughter was sleeping all night by 4 weeks. (ALL LUCK no parenting skill involved) Then she lapsed at about 6 months. I did something similar, but I started sitting on the floor...then by the doorway...the out of sight. I wanted her to know I was there, but it was not time to get up. Seems so easy looking back, but I remember silently sobbing with my hand through the crib spindles rubbing her back... sobbing on the floor outside her room fighting the urge to scoop her up. Within a week the pattern seemed to work. As she got older if she did cry in the night I would rub her back but not pick her up. So many of my friends have "family beds" ...it just didn't work for me. Even now she is 6 and the few times I have let her in my bed (sick, bad dreams) she always finds her way back to her bed. The downside of this is she NEVER falls asleep unless in a bed. Not in the car ((even when I got her up at 4:30 am to go to travel 10 hours to St. Louis...even in front of a movie if I am sick or she has a sleep over) Rereading this post I feel like I sound COLD...I feel like I have to prove how much I love my daughter and nurture her on many levels....and give in to her other ways ...but it's what worked...and I am sure my next baby won't sleep for years and everything I said will backfire!
03.31.06 - 09:51 AM / 11Tara said:
Heather, so glad you wrote this. We just recently resorted to a version of "cry it out" with our 11-month-old son, with good results. He wasn't getting up more than once or twice a night, but when he did wake up, even nursing him wasn't enough to get him back to sleep (this used to be my failsafe method!). After a few weeks of dealing with him waking for an hour or two at a time, a couple of times a night, a few days a week, we were desperate. Clearly our son is old enough to sleep through the night without nursing or any other intervention from us. I thought about trying the "No Cry Sleep Solution," but when I read that the NCSS fall-back plan is whatever you used to do to put your child to sleep (you know, my failsafe that wasn't working anymore??), I knew we had to go another route.
So we let him cry. An hour and a half the first night, an hour the second night, maybe half an hour the third night, and nothing more than occasional whimpers since then when he awakens briefly before falling back to sleep. It was a brief hell, thankfully, but it is still hell to listen to your child screaming at the top of their lungs for that long. I dreaded going into his room that first morning, until I saw that my son was none the worse for wear--in fact, he'd gotten more sleep than on the nights we went to him and tried to soothe him down, so he was happier and more rested than usual. And he certainly doesn't seem to be any less attached to us, or less trustful.
I swore, before I had a kid, I'd never try the "cry it out" method. I also said I'd never have my baby in my bed, but we ended up cosleeping the first 2 months because my son was dead-set against the bassinette. The biggest thing that parenting has taught me is that no one approach has all the answers, and you have to do what works for you, regardless of what others might think.
Now that my son's sleeping consistently through the night, I need to work on naps. (as in, getting him to nap on the weekends without me sleeping right next to him) Wish me luck!
03.31.06 - 09:52 AM / 12simon said:
you shouldn't be worried. like you said, whatever works. mine is 16 months now and has been sleeping the night since one month. we were really fortunate that she just did it on her own. occasionally she does get fussy and wakes up in the middle of the night or just won't go down. in those cases we do the very same thing and just let her cry it out. rarely does it go past 5 minutes before she gives up and goes to sleep. be tough! don't let them take advantage of you! :)
03.31.06 - 09:53 AM / 13mm said:
I have a four year old little girl. For the first few months of her life she refused to eat more than 1 ounce every hour. I remember vividly sitting on the edge of the bed, having not slept for weeks, crying "Please....let's just sleep for four hours!" Thankfully it didn't last very long. We still struggle getting her to go to bed at bedtime (I guess we need to be more of a hard-ass). It's slowly getting better. I think being strict about it is the key....now if I could just follow through....
03.31.06 - 09:53 AM / 14Brandon said:
Our almost 13 month old sleeps at most about 3 hours at a time right now. A month ago she barely slept 1 or 2 and my wife would essentially nurse her all night long. In a lot of ways this is a result of how we chose to parent ("attachment" parenting as they say). We nursed our first two daughter until they we 18 and 24 months respectively. About 3 weeks ago we decided it was time for a change with our current little one. Now, it is soley my job to put her to sleep at night, first by walking around holding her until she fell asleep, then trying to lay her down without waking her up. Just in the last few days, I have been able to put her in her crib awake, and she flops and crawls around for about a half hour or so, then falls asleep. At first, I would go get her if she woke if it was before midnight. Now that she is sleeping a little longer, I get her if she wakes up before about 2 or 3 a.m. It's working. Slow progress, but progress, and there has been no crying involved. Thanks for letting me share our story, and thanks for sharing yours.
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03.31.06 - 09:53 AM / 15libby said:
We practiced cospleeping with my daughter, now 18 months.
(talk about a landmine)
When she would stir I'd nurse her back to sleep. So many people were unsupportive, would say "you'll never get her out of your bed", etc. Well, she eventually did get out of our bed, and she is able to get to sleep without nursing. I have no regrets. I actually quite enjoyed having her nestled next to me. And she slept like a champ from the very beginning. More importantly, it let ME sleep. I really believe that those first few months post-partum are traumatic enough for a new mother, certainly for me. I did see any reason to compound that with sleep deprivation and a pissed-off baby. When the time finally came to wean and sleep train her, of course there were tears. But by then, I was emotionally prepared for them.
Anytime the topic of a second child comes up, I think "I have to, for no other reason than to put to use everything I learned from our first child."
Congratulations on following your heart on what's best for your child. That is one of the hardest parts of parenthood.
03.31.06 - 09:54 AM / 16annabanana said:
Wow. Little people are scary - mine arrives in less than two months and kicks me every two minutes to remind me of this. Hopefully he picks up a sleep schedule quickly (and stops kicking me) because I doubt I could be as proactive about regulating his schedule as you and Jon were with Leta. Thanks for sharing.
03.31.06 - 09:55 AM / 17salee said:
Oh so good Heather - a lovely post. Dr. Wisebottom became our favorite as well. So much of what he writes was, for us, counter-intuitive.
We had been keeping the baby up in the hopes that she would get really tired and sleep longer - all wrong, wrong, wrong. We now put her to bed at the same time each night and before she is exhausted. This resulted in some screaming episodes, but now she curls up and looks forwrd to the restful time in her cozy nest. She sleeps 10.5 hours per night and has 2 naps per day. Her parents are so very happy and well-rested.
03.31.06 - 09:55 AM / 18Jon Z. said:
I got four hours of broken sleep last night. My eight-month-old daughter was up at 4 a.m., and we left her in her crib till 5:30 a.m. She didn't stop crying, whining and hollering for more than .3 seconds. Her almost-three-year-old brother rises daily at about 5 a.m.
They go to bed between 7 p.m. and 8 p.m.
We tried the "Let them cry it out" thing, but we apparently didn't have the wherewithal to follow through to a successful conclusion.
Twelve hours of consecutive sleep every night?
I imagine the sensation I feel while envisioning such a thing is similar to the craving a reformed heroin addict feels when thinking about smack.
03.31.06 - 09:55 AM / 19Amy said:
My first baby slept all the time with no help from me. I really congratulated myself on that one. Then came my second. I tried everything with her, including that healthy sleep habits book, which traumatized me since it basically said if your baby doesn't sleep enough her brain cells will rot and she will become a diabetic emotionally scarred adult--and NOTHING I DID would get my daughter to sleep. As she got older she gradually got better and better and yet still at 11 months old she was waking up once or twice a night to nurse. Eventually one morning when she woke up at 4 am per usual, I had hate it and just let her scream. Which she did for 2.5 hours. SCREAMED! I thought the neighbors were going to call the cops, and they are friends of ours. Anyway, the next morning she screamed for 45 minutes. The next morning it was 20 minutes, and that was basically it. Now she sleeps about 11 hours per night (depending on when her brother wakes her up) and takes a 2-3 hour nap every afternoon.
I do think the sleep discussion is so charged because every baby is different and responds to different strategies differently.
03.31.06 - 09:56 AM / 20lawyerish said:
That this would be considered Land Mine Territory is equal parts fascinating and disturbing to me.
I don't have kids, but when friends and family members started having them in the last couple of years (I'm at That Age), I was surprised to learn that there was all this controversy over How to Get the Baby to Sleep Through the Night. The Ferber method vs. the Co-Sleeping vs. the Loud Shushing. And of course each camp is appalled by the other camp's approach and takes every opportunity to note how harmful the other thing is to the kid and how THOSE kids will suffer grave psychological damage due to their parents' misguided tactics.
When I used to babysit, 15ish years ago (DEAR GOD, has it really been that long??), making $3 an hour to get clobbered in the head with Tonka trucks all day and then watch MTV after the kids went to bed, the default procedure at bedtime or naptime for every family I worked with (and endorsed by my mom, the Child Development World Leader) was to stick the baby into its crib, do something soothing for a few minutes (like rub its back), and then leave. And never come back, no matter the screams or the violent crib-shaking that might ensue.
So I've always thought this was The Thing to Do, just what people did. It's cool that people have come up with other theories or methods, but there is no question that you HAVE to do what works for you. The baby is a baby and will adapt; you are a grown human being who has to function and Get Shit Done in the world.
But my main question is, given the landmine remark and your hesitation in discussion this when it happened, how can people judge each other over stuff like this? Especially moms vs. other moms - I don't get it...women need to support each other in this crazy world - why we gotta be such bitches to each other?
03.31.06 - 09:56 AM / 21Varla said:
It really bothers me that people would tell you how to parent your child, or that you would feel nervous about posting what's going on in your life because of internet trolls. I'll kick their ass. ;)
I adore your blog, and your photos. Thanks for making me laugh almost every day.
03.31.06 - 09:57 AM / 22libby said:
Anytime the topic of a second child comes up, I think "I have to have another, for no other reason than to put to use everything I learned from our first child."
We practiced cospleeping with my daughter, now 18 months.
(talk about a landmine)
When she would stir I'd nurse her back to sleep. So many people were unsupportive, would say "you'll never get her out of your bed", etc. Well, she eventually did get out of our bed, and she is able to get to sleep without nursing. I have no regrets. I actually quite enjoyed having her nestled next to me. And she slept like a champ from the very beginning. More importantly, it let ME sleep. I really believe that those first few months post-partum are traumatic enough for a new mother, certainly for me. I didn't see any reason to compound that with sleep deprivation and a pissed-off baby. When the time finally came to wean and sleep train her, of course there were tears. But by then, I was emotionally prepared for them.
Congratulations on following your heart on what's best for your child. That is one of the hardest parts of parenthood.
03.31.06 - 09:57 AM / 23Ashley said:
My kids started off sleeping fine, but when my son moved to a "big kid" bed he had a relapse. He started coming in to our room and either wanted to get in bed with us or wanted me to take him back to bed. It could happen up to 4 or 5 times per night! In a desperate attempt to break the bad habit, I made him walk back to his bed - by himself. He screamed the whole way, screamed himself back to sleep. It was a rough 2 weeks, but he did it! We did it!
03.31.06 - 09:58 AM / 24rdhdprincess said:
Oh the screaming! I almost couldn't stand the screaming. But it is so much worth it now to have a child that sleeps so well so that I can sleep so well. I am a much better mother when I have sleep. My question is, do you have to go back to step one with Leta (the screaming!) every time something out of the ordinary screws things up like a fever or thunder storm? Or does she *know* that things go back to normal the next night? I seem to have to go thru the screaming stage and start over again at least every couple of months. My ears hurt as much as my heart.
03.31.06 - 09:58 AM / 25Hindowashi said:
I don't have children but I used to nanny and I have tons of nieces and nephews. I believe the parent has to take control by not thinking they need to attend to every cry of their baby. My sister had a hard time with her son, she had to go to bed at 8:00 or 9:00 pm at night just to get her son to go to bed too. I told her that was "utterly ridiculous". I had to watch him for a week while she was on a vacation and I had him going to bed on his own in two days by letting him cry. It was painful to not go in and comfort him, but it worked and now my sister can go to bed a a normal adult time.
Let em' cry I say.
03.31.06 - 09:58 AM / 26Amanda Paige said:
You are a brave, brave woman for telling your tale. I'm going to be releasing my first spawn in three months and am scared that I am going to have NO CLUE. Thanks for the candid insight. :)
03.31.06 - 09:58 AM / 27Angela said:
Wonderful information, Dooce. I am printing this out and I am going to save it for when I have children.
I hope you and Jon have a fantastic weekend. :o)
03.31.06 - 09:59 AM / 28Kathy B. said:
Kudos to your for sharing this story! I hope it gives others the courage to do the same (if necessary.) I did pretty much the same thing when my daughter was 6 months. Like you, my ped told me that at this age she no longer needed to eat at night -- she was just waking due to habit.
03.31.06 - 09:59 AM / 29MommyofOne said:
Heather,
I appreciate your honesty so much. Thank you for being so real.
My dd is 3 1/2. We never had sleep issues like you described, so I can't sympathize with you on that level.
You have to do what works for you, as you've already realized. To hell with the experts and the books that tell you not to do this, or to do that. I went back to work at 6 weeks and our dd slept in our bed. We were breastfeeding so it just made the most sense for us. We were able to sleep well together, and she made the transition to her crib smoothly. I never felt like a zombie. Many people will regale moms with the horrors of having kids sleep in beds. We said "screw them all" and did our own thing. And it worked for us.
It seems raising Leta has been a bit of a challenge. I know people who had challenging first children, then the most easy, laid back second babies. One friend's second (breastfed) son was sleeping 12 hours per night at 2 months. If you and Jon have another baby, I'll hope that's what happens for you!
Jess
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