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There is an ongoing argument in this house concerning the correct pronunciation of certain words, and it has only become more heated now that we are helping our child shape her vocabulary. One of my worst fears about living in Utah has always been that Leta would develop a Mormon accent, that there would be nothing I could do to stop her from dropping the T's in the middle of her words -- mountain sounds like mao-in -- or constantly speaking at a deafening volume so that she can be heard over her 14 brothers and sisters.

Jon was raised in northern Utah and is descended from polygamists. Consequently, he can rarely speak a whole sentence without butchering the English language. I just recently noticed that he drops the L's in the middle of his words so that walk becomes wok, talk becomes tak, and chalk becomes a furball caught in the back of his throat. When I pointed out his mistake he claimed that the L is supposed to be silent, and to prove it to me he looked up each word in two separate dictionaries. Both references backed up his claim, but this doesn't surprise me. Dictionaries have always been written by Yankees, and have you ever heard one of them talk?

The one debate that will not die is the one over whether crayon is pronounced cray-on or crown. Jon maintains that crayon is a two-syllable word, CRAY ON, but he also listens to jazz. Both are forgivable but indicative of soft spots in the brain. My sister and I have always pronounced it CROWN. Why use the energy on two syllables when you can get it done with one? Save that second syllable for the precious list of demands you're going to bark at your husband later.

Here is an audio clip of the correct pronunciation of crayon. Also, if you are one of those people who pronounce it CRAN, my hope is that the next time you allow yourselves to release such an obnoxious sound into the world you temporarily go deaf so that your ears don't rot off from the pain.

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  • 1. Trish said:

    we say cray-on but then I also sound like I'm on Coffee talk with the ladies when I say dawg and tawlk. I'll have to ask my best friend in SC (born and raised there) how she says it.

    05.15.06 - 01:48 PM
  • 2. R said:

    CRAY-on!!

    I've said my peace.

    05.15.06 - 01:49 PM
  • 3. blurb said:

    It's a non-stop Block Party Jam™ of Steely Dan for the next three weeks, baby.

    05.15.06 - 01:51 PM
  • 4. Erin said:

    www.mirriamwebster.com has a handy little audio tool that pronounces all the words for you.

    I'm sorry to say that crayon has two syllables, and the Ls in walk, talk, and chalk are silent.

    I would, however, love to hear how one would actually pronounce those words with a spoken L. Another audio clip, please? I love them!

    05.15.06 - 01:52 PM
  • 5. Askew Adventures said:

    I'm with you Heather, totally crown. I am exceptionally picky when it comes to pronunciations. I'm sure many of my friends and coworkers over the years have wanted to hit me for correcting their pronunciation on a totally meaningless word. I had a coworker at my last position that was from Northeast Philly, which is positively THE WORST accent and pronunciation problem prone area I've ever heard. I cringed listening to her talk, which was often since I sat in the cube directly in front of her.

    I haven't noticed the "mormon" accent, but now I'm going to be on the listen for it.

    05.15.06 - 01:53 PM
  • 6. Tara Whitney said:

    crown is what sits atop a king or queen.
    CRAY-on is what my kids color with.

    sorry h. siding with the other half on this one.

    05.15.06 - 01:56 PM
  • 7. jennifer curry said:

    i definitely do not have a mormon accent -- but i still think it is cray-on.

    05.15.06 - 01:56 PM
  • 8. Dayna Lee said:

    Daaaaaang! I thought my Arkansas/Oklahoma accent was bad. =)

    05.15.06 - 01:56 PM
  • 9. Tara Whitney said:

    atop the HEAD of a king or queen. sorry.

    one more thing-if you asked me for the magenta crown i would say wtf are you talking about? lol

    05.15.06 - 01:57 PM
  • 10. Babs said:

    Hmm.

    Can't go with you on this one. I have always pronounced it cray-on.

    But then again, I have always listened to jazz.

    05.15.06 - 01:58 PM
  • 11. Diana Schnuth said:

    My Mom grew up in southern Ohio, for the most part, and her mother was raised in Florida, just for reference. I grew up in NE Ohio, with their influence.

    I pronounce the word CRAY-on. However, I also used to pronounce the word "coupon" as Q-pon, until my husband trained me to say it KOO-pon. I also grew up thinking we put our clothes in a chester drawers (rather than a chest of drawers), and attached a hose to a spicket (instead of a spigot).

    Here's one for you: does the word "tour" have two syllables or one? That argument between my high school band director and the rest of the band was never satisfactorily settled.

    05.15.06 - 01:59 PM
  • 12. fabulousgirl7 said:

    I absolutely agree with Jon on this one. Up here in Canada, I've never heard it pronounced CROWN. Besides, if it was CROWN, it wouldn't sound like CRAYOLA, and why else would one name a CRAY-ON brand CRAYOLA? Yup, definitely CRAY-ON.

    05.15.06 - 02:02 PM
  • 13. Very Mom said:

    It's CREN, people. CRENS.

    05.15.06 - 02:02 PM
  • 14. Babs said:

    Crens?

    ...

    05.15.06 - 02:04 PM
  • 15. junkyardlove said:

    Try being from Upstate NY (we're talking up by Canada)where "crayon," is pronounced "cran." One syllable, and make it kinda nasal-sounding.

    05.15.06 - 02:04 PM
  • 16. Hope said:

    when I saw this post I HAD to comment, (I LOVE your site by he way; my husband always knows i'm reading dooce when I laugh so hard I fall off the couch!)

    We have this argument all the time in our house, but my husband is from Boston so he says Cray-ON with a boston accent while I say Crain, with my horrible New England accent.

    I will say nothing is as bad as my grandmother that say Ohio as Oh-he-o

    05.15.06 - 02:04 PM
  • 17. Babs said:

    Oh my God.

    05.15.06 - 02:04 PM
  • 18. Megan said:

    One vote for CRAY-on. At least that's how we pronouce it here in the Northeast. Love the accent, by the way.

    05.15.06 - 02:05 PM
  • 19. floydwood said:

    it's cray-on in australia

    05.15.06 - 02:05 PM
  • 20. iwouldlovetohearfromyou said:

    My Yankee blood says it Cran, like gram, bam, slam, jam...crayon. I never understood how people can say, Cray-on and be ok with it. That sounds like some disease, or maybe an undiscovered fish at the bottom of the Yellow Sea.

    05.15.06 - 02:05 PM
  • 21. yogurtweaver said:

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    CRAY-ON.

    CRAY-ON.

    CRAY-ON.

    [deep breath]

    Sorry Dooce, but I'm with Jon on this one.

    05.15.06 - 02:06 PM
  • 22. Mark B. said:

    I am neither a Yankee nor a Mormon and I have neither of the respective accents.

    I say: Cray-on
    I say: Tak
    I say: Wok

    And so on.

    I'm actually curious Heather, if a dictionary didn't convince you (at least) that Tak and Wok, what on earth could convince you? I.e. what would it take for you to say: "Ok John you are right."?

    05.15.06 - 02:07 PM
  • 23. Carli said:

    As much as I love ya Heather, Jon is correct. Your dialect is just a bit too Southern. Cray-on. And yes, lots of silent "L's." But hey, you're much better looking, so maybe you could do a puppet show and he could do the talking and you could mouth the words. My mental picture is getting a little x-rated, so maybe share that when Leta's asleep.

    05.15.06 - 02:07 PM
  • 24. jes said:

    Oh, wow. Until you actually spelled "cee-arrr-aee-yiiy-ohh-iiin" I never realized just how deeply the South affected your accent. No wonder you pronounce it "crown."

    I'm with Jon on this one.

    05.15.06 - 02:07 PM
  • 25. Paul Bailey said:

    Pronunciation variation is a delightful source of disagreement in my household, northern Englishman versus occasional Californian valley girl.

    Of particular teeth-grinding heinousness to me are 'months', pronounced as 'munce', and 'clothes', pronounced as 'cloze'. And it seems to be that the standard US pronunciation of 'mirror' is heading very quickly to 'meer', if it hasn't got there already.

    (Oh, and it's cray-on, by the way.)

    05.15.06 - 02:07 PM
  • 26. kelley said:

    I hail from California, so I have no accent AT ALL.

    CRAY-ON.

    And, wok, tak, chok. All correct. Sorry, Heather.

    05.15.06 - 02:08 PM
  • 27. Tracey said:

    As an Aussie, I've never _heard_ of crayon being pronounced "crown" !!! (I mustn't watch enough American shows on TV!!) A crayon is a cray-on - and it's got nothing to do one's personal music preferences!!! If you pronounce crayon as 'crown'... how do you pronounce 'crown' ???!!!

    I am however enjoying this within-US debate on pronunciation.

    05.15.06 - 02:09 PM
  • 28. langus said:

    I am from Seattle. I talk (with a silent L) like people on TV. It is cray-on. A crown is what you get on your teeth or you put on your head.

    05.15.06 - 02:10 PM
  • 29. Catrain said:

    Cheese and crackers will ya? What's this "crown" buzinazz? I grew up in the Nasally Northwest not really coloring with crowns. But now I'm confused in how I myself pronounce it. Stage fright is gripping my ankles. I think I almost mush the two syllables of "cray-on" into a "crane"...

    05.15.06 - 02:11 PM
  • 30. Erin said:

    Ohh, the point about Cray-ola and cray-on is spot on!

    05.15.06 - 02:11 PM
  • 31. emily michelle said:

    CRAY-on

    none of this "crown" foolishness, they're coloring implements, not headwear

    05.15.06 - 02:11 PM
  • 32. salmonday said:

    I'm sure that on "Hard L Sound Island" where you come from, the indiginous peoples say "crown," but the overwhelming majority identifies it as a CRAY-on. No amount of screaming into the wind is going to change that. Just like, as a Minnesotan, I know that the correct name of the game is "Duck, Duck, Grey Duck" and that somehow the entirety of the planet Earth manages to get it wrong by calling it "Duck, Duck, Goose," but I have learned to live with it.

    05.15.06 - 02:14 PM
  • 33. Notorious M.I.L.F. said:

    "Elmo loves his goldfish.....
    His CRAY-on too"

    I know you know this song.

    Sorry Heather. Elmo says. Case closed.

    05.15.06 - 02:15 PM
  • 34. Bird Lover said:

    I'm just going to beat a dead horse and repeat what others have written: it is Cray-On not CROWN or any other variation thereof. How would you pronounce Crayola? CROLA? No, it is Cray-Ola. It is Cray-on.

    I've got a word for you - Iron. Being from the north I pronounce both syllables like "I-ern". My baby daddy, who is from Alabama, says "ern". I'm guessing it's short for Earnhardt, but I'm putting it out there for you to tell me. Who's right, me or him?

    05.15.06 - 02:15 PM
  • 35. Kate G. said:

    It's pronounced "cran", thankyouverymuch. No two syllables. No O. Cran.

    05.15.06 - 02:17 PM
  • 36. GingerLane said:

    Ok, I'm from Southern California (and no, I'm not in the Gen Y group that makes everything sound like a damn question). I am not from the valley; I am just an ordinary girl speaking like they do on the news.

    CROWN is crazy talk. How can it possibly be "crown"? I can't even wrap my brain around that one, hon and let me tell you, I'm willing to follow many the places you go. But this, dear Heather? I cannot agree.

    While I'll accept that two syllables is more than required, I am a CRAN gal. So as far as I'm concerned, you're both wrong.

    That's all I'm gonna say 'bout that.

    05.15.06 - 02:17 PM
  • 37. sonjaag said:

    Born and bred in Alabama, albeit north Alabama, but even I say Cray-on. However, I can't even fathom how one could say walk, talk, and chalk without pronouncing the L. It's right there in the middle of the word, people. You can't miss it. Begging to be spoken!

    05.15.06 - 02:18 PM
  • 38. stephanie said:

    i'm just confused. i thought the audio clip would totally clear it up for me and i too would be going "crown! i get it!" except what happened was totally the opposite. i admit, i say cran, because if said "cray-on" it would sound like i was leta's age trying to sound out a word for the first time.

    seriously, i don't get the crown thing, at all. like, to the point of, if i was in your house and you said "can you hand me the red crown?" i would have no idea what you meant, unless the king's royal headpiece was laying around, which is what i would hand to you.

    part of the reason that i say "cran" may also be that i am from the northeast, and not only the northeast but rhode island, where we certainly have our own dialect too as i'm sure you know, the least of which is never using the letter R. thankfully, i have outgrown my hideous r.i. accent [although it still haunts me in the form of old home movies] but i guess some things just stick with you.

    in conclusion, i vote you both lose :D

    05.15.06 - 02:18 PM
  • 39. sravana said:

    cray-on.

    05.15.06 - 02:20 PM
  • 40. disneymike said:

    Jon is right. It is pronounced cray-on.

    See? Two syllables. Count them. One. Two. ;D

    05.15.06 - 02:20 PM
  • 41. GEORGE! said:

    CROWN BITCHES!

    05.15.06 - 02:22 PM
  • 42. gorgeoux said:

    Textbooks and audiobooks and TV courses for (even American!) English as a second language have CRAYON and nothing else. If you call it a CROWN, then what do you call a CROWN?!

    I'm amazed by the many interpretations "you" people can put out, use, and discuss freely. The Romanian community at Microsoft would have dropped the language skills tests for trying something this funny. And Bill Gates would be really angry today without 300+ developers.

    I find it entertaining enough to try out Russian, French, Greek, or Italian accents when I feel like scarying an American counterpart (leave aside British!). Your game sounds dangerous; I must be with the Lil League.

    05.15.06 - 02:22 PM
  • 43. Lisa said:

    Cray-On!!!!

    My husband and I argue over wolf, he says "woof" and iron, he says "i-ren". My mother habitually embarasses me by saying Alvis Presley is her favorite singer and she banged her "albow" on the table.....

    05.15.06 - 02:22 PM
  • 44. sasha said:

    This makes me wonder if you (and Leta and Jon) say pillow or pellow, milk or melk?

    05.15.06 - 02:23 PM
  • 45. shanparker said:

    I'm with Jon.

    05.15.06 - 02:25 PM
  • 46. ash said:

    I live in Arizona where, yes, they also drop the T in everything, but they say cray-on.

    I'm from Wisconsin though, and I say bag and magazine funny, but still say cray-on.

    05.15.06 - 02:25 PM
  • 47. ashley said:

    you don't tak to someone, you don't wak to the store, and you do not draw with chak.

    also wondering if my family is alone in this: does anyone add an 'l' to the word 'both'? all of my brothers and sisters say 'bolth' and now that we're in pennsylvania many a person has tried to correct us. if this is a familial oddity i'd appreciate knowing before i go to defend myself against these mobs of yankees and their 'dictionaries' once again.

    05.15.06 - 02:25 PM
  • 48. smoochdog said:

    I think Jon wins this one. Someone else already referenced Mirriam_Webster. Now a dooce dictionary might be something worth considering.

    Cray-ON. Have a great one however you say it!

    05.15.06 - 02:26 PM
  • 49. Beverlee said:

    In Canada, Jon would be right on all counts.

    05.15.06 - 02:26 PM
  • 50. dancingnancy said:

    I also have issues with pronunciation. I told my husband just yesterday that he CANNOT teach our future children to say "woof" for "WOLF". Woof is what dogs say, "WOLF" is, in fact, a wolf. Drives me nuts, along with "battries" (batt-er-ies) and "warshing machine" (washing machine. I won't even get into my pet peeve of the infamous "libarry" and "eh-zackly" (exactly). Makes me dry heave........

    05.15.06 - 02:26 PM
  • 51. typegirl said:

    New to dooce. Introduced via Squeaks site. I'll vote for two syllables also. I'd have to say, however, that it isn't only the Mormons who have problems pronoucing things. I think it a sad state-wide problem which I avoid like the plague.

    05.15.06 - 02:27 PM
  • 52. Tanya said:

    Listen to any Crayola commercial and they clearly say, CRAY-ON. :-)

    05.15.06 - 02:29 PM
  • 53. Sheri Guyse said:

    Actually, in our house we call it colors.

    "Honey, get your colors and your Elmo colorin' book."

    05.15.06 - 02:29 PM
  • 54. Alison said:

    It's a cross between cray-on and cran. Really.

    05.15.06 - 02:29 PM
  • 55. GC said:

    Jon is descended from polygamists? How many generations ago?

    05.15.06 - 02:35 PM
  • 56. agnieszka said:

    It's totally cray-on, but your accent is super hot.

    My husband Ben says "pin" and "pen" like they're the same thing. He pronounces both of them "pin". So then I have to ask him why he doesn't call himself "Bin".

    05.15.06 - 02:37 PM
  • 57. Vika Zafrin said:

    More! More sound clips! This is excellent fun.

    Even if you do mispronounce cray-on. :)

    05.15.06 - 02:38 PM
  • 58. Amy said:

    Funnily enough, I was having a conversation about pronunciation and how it relates to different regions with my coworkers today. I'm from Baltimore, so perhaps my input isn't the most reliable (we insert random R's in places where they just do not belong!), but... "cray-on." It's right there in the spelling! And in the Crayola commercials!

    For the record, though, I do say "walk" with the L in full effect. I never even knew that it wasn't supposed to be pronouned. Weird.

    05.15.06 - 02:39 PM
  • 59. Wicked H said:

    How can Elmo and Jon both be wrong?? Sorry Dooce.

    05.15.06 - 02:39 PM
  • 60. alicia lynn said:

    wtf dude, it's obviously cray-on. i don't understand how you get 'crown' from crayon, and i'm sitting in a cafe right now, otherwise i would listen to the audio clip. crown? that's fucking crazy!

    the one that always drives me crazy is when people say 'bretts' when they mean barettes. I'm always like, "hey, can i have one of those bar-ettes?" and my friends will say, "don't you mean bretts?" it's insane. look at how it is spelled! BAR-ETTES. now i just say 'hair clip' to avoid any confusion.

    also one time i read in one of those like, 'mythbusting' or whatever type of books- the kind that 'debunk' things that are generally considered common knowledge, there was a whole chapter on how people THINK they can hear the difference between stuff like "walk" and "wok" because they are picturing how it is spelled when they say it, but really they don't actually HEAR the difference. unless you actually say "WALK" like, 'walllllk' which would be weird.

    05.15.06 - 02:40 PM
  • 61. leahkay said:

    As a descendant of polygamists myself, I grew up saying "cren." But then I turned three and learned to read and have said "cray-on" ever since.

    My best story about pronunciation was in an English class at the U. Some girl raised her hand and asked the prof about the correct "pro-NOUNCE-iation" of a word. The poor professor tried hard to keep a straight face, but I--and many of my classmates--laughed openly because it was just too perfect.

    05.15.06 - 02:41 PM
  • 62. ItsMe said:

    It's totally cran. I live near the Crayola factory, how can I be wrong?! CRAN!

    05.15.06 - 02:43 PM
  • 63. tksinclair said:

    I've lived in many cities from Charleston, W.Va to Boston to Chicago to Malibu and from the mountains to the prairie to the ocean white with foam, God bless America it's my Cray-ay-on.

    05.15.06 - 02:43 PM
  • 64. Renae said:

    Notorious ... "Elmo says" oh my goodness, well that just settles it. Reminds me of one time in college talking to a friend who said "It's true! I saw it on Sally Jessie Raffel!"

    And Ashley, here in California my family says "bolth" but the "l" sound is very soft, bolth, not bowl-th.

    It's definately cray-on though.

    05.15.06 - 02:43 PM
  • 65. Kren said:

    Born in Australia, teen years in Florida, now in the Northeast. It's CRAY-on. But from my years in the South I also know for a fact that shit is a two-syllable word. I'm sure Heather would agree.

    Now, my DH, a Jersey boy, says ROON instead of ruin. He says WIT instead of with. I'm in a daily battle with him for the pronunciation soul of our daughter.

    Stone the flamin' crows. (That's FLAY-min)

    05.15.06 - 02:45 PM
  • 66. clarkolicious said:

    How can you hate CRAN? Do you not love gin&CRAN? or vodka&CRAN? It's practically the same thing, only less delicious.

    05.15.06 - 02:46 PM
  • 67. DinerGirl said:

    Are you kidding? Crayon pronounced "crown"? That's how the white-trash trailer park kids in PA pronounced it when I was growing up. Do you pronounce the word "mayonnaise" [mow-NAISE]? What about "saying"? Is that [SOW-ing]?

    05.15.06 - 02:48 PM
  • 68. Sanya said:

    I say cray-on, kind of like how it's spelled. ;) I'm from Canada, by the way, and I don't say aboot.

    05.15.06 - 02:50 PM
  • 69. Kay said:

    I think Crown is really gross, though not nearly as gross as "melk". That one's the worst. So I'll have to vote with the Cray-on side. However, when it comes to walk, talk, and chalk I agree with you, Heather. Walk, for example is totally pronounced like the word "wall" but add a k at the end. Wall-k. I'm from south of the Mason-Dixon line (Baltimore) but totally do NOT have a southern accent.

    05.15.06 - 02:50 PM
  • 70. adelheide said:

    Have you considered that both pronunciations may be correct? I know that I have at different times used Crown and Cray-on and found both of them to be effective.

    05.15.06 - 02:50 PM
  • 71. Madame M. said:

    You are a clever debater, but you Southerners are a generally obnoxious sort who have a sweet fixation -- sweet tea and calling people "Sugar" and "Hon" for no reason being good examples. You also like to add extra syllables to things that do not ever need them --such as "no"-- (Cray-on excepted, it seems) and you would like the world to believe that "y'all" is singular when it very clearly is plural.

    Anyhoo.. I agree with one of the comments above: more audio clips!! Do you also pronounce the L in "salmon"?

    05.15.06 - 02:50 PM
  • 72. Allie said:

    Oddly enough, my husband and I are both native Alabamians, so we rarely have pronunciation spats. But, I have to disagree with you, Heather--the true southern pronunciation is definitely CRAY-YON. CROWN sounds suspiciously like you've done turned into a Yankee. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, hon.

    05.15.06 - 02:53 PM
  • 73. Brian said:

    A "wok" is something you cook in. To take a wok would be stealing.

    05.15.06 - 02:54 PM
  • 74. MeAhna said:

    Uh, I'm a "yankee"

    It is Cray-on. It is soo weird, because I hear a lot of people say we (Yankees) talk with an accent.....hahahaha!

    05.15.06 - 02:55 PM
  • 75. scotchandgin said:

    CRAY-on. Sorry. For the record my state's name is pronounced Orygun, not OR-A-GONE. Listen for Bush's butchering if the English language in tonight's address, if anyone can stand it.

    05.15.06 - 02:55 PM
  • 76. cassie_paige said:

    I must agree with Jon and say CRAY-ON. I usually don't say it though and it's more like "Hand me the pink before I break your fingers please."

    Just kidding.

    Kind of.

    05.15.06 - 02:56 PM
  • 77. buttered & fried said:

    there is this writer clown
    who pronounces crayon, "CROWN"
    she also means to type "dude"
    but instead pecks out "dooce"
    at least she always turns my frowns upside-down

    05.15.06 - 02:57 PM
  • 78. iheartben said:

    Okay um... I have to admit I say "CRAN." and if you look it up on merriam webster.com..... it says the two pronunciations are Cray-on and Cran. No mention of "crown" anywhere in the definition. Cran!

    05.15.06 - 02:57 PM
  • 79. kathrynaz said:

    egads. I think my upstate albany, ny accent is suspiciously mormon now. I too have pronounced glottal stops, mou''in being one of the worst offenders.

    But I have to weigh-in on this crown business. Jon is 100% right. (sorry....)

    05.15.06 - 02:57 PM
  • 80. Hazel Hazlett said:

    Colors or (phonetically spelled: kellers) to end the debate.

    CRAY-ON to keep the debate going.

    05.15.06 - 02:59 PM
  • 81. Melanie said:

    Yankees are masterful at pronunciation. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

    05.15.06 - 03:00 PM
  • 82. Doppelganger said:

    I love listening to people debate accents. It's so cute how everyone always thinks they're right.

    05.15.06 - 03:03 PM
  • 83. Lane Meyer said:

    CRAY-YAWN

    I don't disagree with you very often, Heather...in fact, this is the only time I can come up with that I don't see your point of view...so I must be right...right?

    05.15.06 - 03:05 PM
  • 84. Allison said:

    Sorry Heather, but you are utterly hopelessly embarassingly wrong. If you asked me for a crayon I would have no idea what to do, and would probably stare blankly at you. A crown? Like, from Burger King?

    Otherwise youre fabulous.

    05.15.06 - 03:05 PM
  • 85. VegasPete said:

    Yowzah! That's hawt!

    Dooce, you should start a "southern-accent" fetish site, where you spell out the "Hot Word of the Day (TM)" for fun and profit.

    Each day, you pick a word, spell it, and (mis)-pronounce it. Big money! No whammies!

    05.15.06 - 03:05 PM
  • 86. TiffanyAron said:

    I'm loving the fact that it took 55 posts for someone to ask about Jon's polygamist ancestors.

    Heather, you've got a great husband, a fantastic little girl, and lovely pink shoes, but you and George! are wrong on this one. I'm a Kentucky girl, born and bred, and the word is "cray-on."

    05.15.06 - 03:08 PM
  • 87. jagosaurus said:

    "And here comes another southern vote for CRAY-on. If I could manage to insert a third strong syllable in there I would.

    Hmmmm ... cuh-RAY-on? Nah. Nevermind.

    05.15.06 - 03:08 PM
  • 88. carissa said:

    Heather, I think you're super cool, and I say this with all due respect, do you REALLY think you have room to talk about other people and their accents???

    CRAY-on.

    05.15.06 - 03:09 PM
  • 89. eledhwenn said:

    Go there.

    http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php

    Helps to figure out how things are pronnounced. :)

    05.15.06 - 03:11 PM
  • 90. hules said:

    Opinion time from Canada, eh??? And, Heather.....it's CRAY-ON!! Gotta go with Jon on this one.

    Let's hear Leta say it now!

    05.15.06 - 03:15 PM
  • 91. MichelleM said:

    Ok, Twangy Twangerson. My hetero girly crush on you just increased tenfold (yes, tenfold) because of that audio clip. I may even start pronouncing it "crown" in your honor.

    05.15.06 - 03:16 PM
  • 92. Dinamyte said:

    As a responsible Dooce fan, I've read every daily entry (and most nubbins) from the archives since I discovered your site, but this is my first time commenting... that is how much this post has moved me!

    My first-grade teacher TRAUMATIZED me by pronouncing crayon "crown." I am from the east coast, so there was no excuse for it, no excuse at all. She told us to take out our "crowns" one day and my 5-year-old OCD self thought I had Alzheimers because I could not for the life of me remember when we were told to bring crowns to class, or when we had made paper crowns, or how I could have missed a day of school without remembering I had missed a day of school. Someone sitting next to me had to explain that the teacher meant CRAY-ONS to get me to stop hyperventilating.

    05.15.06 - 03:20 PM
  • 93. nicoledale said:

    do people honestly say walk, talk, & chalk like they would say 'balk'? that's so messed up. when you say 'walking' does it sound like 'wall-king'?

    some other clarifications:
    OR-i-gun, not or-i-GONE
    ne-VAH-duh, not ni-VAW-duh
    gon-zay-guh, not gone-zag-uh
    walla WALLA, not WALLA walla
    yak-i-MA, not YAK-i-muh

    05.15.06 - 03:21 PM
  • 94. lucysliver said:

    my entire life, until i went to college, i said "crown" not realizing everyone else thought it was wrong. my college boyfriend pointed it out the very first time he heard me say it and suddenly i spiralled into a lonely state-- me versus the world. after interviewing everyone i knew, asking how they pronounced "crayon," i finally decided i must at fault and converted to saying "cray-on," but not before practicing quietly for a few days alone in my room.

    thanks to the internet, i now know that there are plenty of crown-sayers out there. though i've switched sides, i will never forget my roots and never ever make fun of someone who says "crown." you rock.

    05.15.06 - 03:23 PM
  • 95. PinkPoppies said:

    Cray-on!

    Of course, pronounciation is the new verboten topic, like religion and politics used to be.

    I'm in Canada from the far East, and we don't say "aboot" or even "eh", but I'll cop to hearing differences between "Merry Christmas Mary, when will you marry?"

    Nor should you be confused with the three known tones used for those round rings of baked and boiled dough: bay-gel, bah-gel, and baa-gel.

    And I love your accent! There's something so creamy about it; just like white sugar icing (or do you call it frosting, fraw-sting, fruh-sting?) on cinnamon rolls.
    Pinky

    05.15.06 - 03:24 PM
  • 96. kidsmom said:

    In Milwaukee, you have Crik instead of Creek. Ruff instead of ROof and, the all time favorite: MEER instead of mirror.

    What d ya'll use to flatten your shirt collars: urns or irons?

    I'm from the east coast, too.

    05.15.06 - 03:24 PM
  • 97. Jeff, the film prof said:

    Instead of kindly insisting like everyone else that Jon is correct (but I'm a guy, and study movies, so what do I know?), let me offer up a couple pronunication problems in our East Coast household that stem primarily from my wife being from Cape Cod. No joke, she claims that after hearing her mother yell, "Anjeler, Hethah, get in the cah, it's time for orkester practice!" she vowed she would never learn a Cape Codder accent. She was nevertheless surprised in 8th grade when, asked to identify on a spelling list the object you pull out from a bureau, she wrote "draw" and got it wrong. Even now, she still occasionally pronounces "drawer" as one syllable, which makes me giggle.

    The neverending battle in our house, however, revolves around shellfish. For me, a particular bivalve is pronounced "SKAH-lop"; for her, it is a "SKAW-lop." For a long time, she got me by saying, "How do you pronounce 'all'? Well, 'all' is in 'scallop.'" About four years ago, I finally retorted with "How do you pronounce 'gallop'?"

    Luckily for us, she doesn't really care for them anyway. This is perhaps one reason why we are still married.

    05.15.06 - 03:29 PM
  • 98. Cheryl said:

    It it so totally cray-on, not crown. And for the life of me I can't figure out how one would actually pronounce the L in walk, talk, etc. As someone else said, I'd love to hear some audio clips of you saying those words.

    Your accent really caught me by surprise. I didn't expect you to be so twangy. ;)

    05.15.06 - 03:31 PM
  • 99. LadySincere said:

    Yea it's CRAY-on. And yes I hail from Alabama, and NO I do NOT have the obnoxious southern TWANG :)

    now, can you kindly teach telemarketers to pronounce my last name? SINCERE...NOT Sinclair, Sincer-AY, Sincer-REE-REE, or SPENCER(got this today at the hospital)S I N C E R E spelled just like sincerely...MINUS the LY

    05.15.06 - 03:33 PM
  • 100. Kate said:

    Oh you, sillies.
    It's CRAN.
    CRAN!
    CRANS!
    Where are my CRANS?
    craaaaaaaaaaaaan.
    cran.

    05.15.06 - 03:37 PM
  • 101. Erin said:

    I apologize from the depths of my loins (loy-ins?), but I've never heard crayon pronounced "crown."

    05.15.06 - 03:38 PM
  • 102. Jill said:

    I'm from TN, as well. But I pronounce crayon as a two syllable word. CRAYon.
    But talk and walk and chalk, all have the L obvious in it.

    05.15.06 - 03:38 PM
  • 103. Delusive said:

    Cray-on all the way!

    05.15.06 - 03:39 PM
  • 104. jomama said:

    I have what can be considered no accent sprinkled with southern here and there. I agree that it is CRAY-YON but the l's in walk, talk and chalk are all pronounced. They are soft, but they are there. But how in the world is iron supposed to be pronounced? I still can't figure it out. I say i-ern and my husband makes fun of me for this. But he's from Philly and says wooder (water), so I can't really take him seriously.

    And Jon should do an audio post for mao-in, cause I can't wrap my head around that one.

    05.15.06 - 03:44 PM
  • 105. Ambrosia said:

    Crayon is spelled like another stickey wicket: Mayonnaise. What's your take? Man-nays, may-nays, My-Oh-nays..?.. surely not Mao-nays? I'm a west coaster, so it's cray-un and mayun-nays, though sometimes it verges on cry-on.

    05.15.06 - 03:44 PM
  • 106. Galatae said:

    And then the alternate pronunciation via merriam-webster:

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/crayon

    05.15.06 - 03:44 PM
  • 107. Dana said:

    Oh my lord Heather. CROWN??????
    Living my whole life in California I had no idea that the pronunciation "crown" even existed. Until now.
    But then again I come from a land where people ridicule you if you pronounce "kitten" kit-ten rather than kit-n. It's all the tv we watch - we must conform!

    05.15.06 - 03:45 PM
  • 108. Arty Steph said:

    I completely heart the fact that someone actually spelled Merriam-Webster and Mirriam Webster instead :) The funny thing is, it still takes you to the freaking dictionary site anyway! Which i guess makes sense, cause it is a site for peeps who can't spell :)

    05.15.06 - 03:45 PM
  • 109. belleofmadison said:

    I was raised in Mississippi, by a Mississippi mother and Indiana father, went to college in Alabama, and currently reside in Wisconsin, and I never knew there was more than one way to pronounce Cray-on!!! But I'm such a huge Dooce fan that I might try calling them crowns.

    05.15.06 - 03:46 PM
  • 110. Luka said:

    I've never heard Crown for Crayon but I'm from LA so maybe it's a regional thing. I've also never heard "L" pronounced when saying walk or talk. I think we might even say, dare I say it, "cran" out here?

    05.15.06 - 03:47 PM
  • 111. Trackellalouise said:

    Ooooh, girl, you are letting your West Tennessee show. I bet you went to school with people who said "Do you have a prencil I could borrow?"

    I'm from Middle Tennessee, and I pronounce it "cray-on".

    P.S. Love your blog, and I want to sop Leta up with a biscuit!

    05.15.06 - 03:49 PM
  • 112. Nifle said:

    Heather, I love you, I really do! But, PLEASE, PLEASE only record Jon speaking the word crayon. It's two syllables. It's going to take me a while to recover from that auditory hit and run.

    P.S.
    I grew up in Utah (Okay, peep's my closet is now open and the skeleton is coming out) and I have been able to perfect my newscaster accent so that people would not be able to detect that part of my origin - I'm hiding the rest.

    05.15.06 - 03:51 PM
  • 113. Erin said:

    Oops, that would be me with the misspelling of merriam-webster. My bookmark spelled it that way (and was made by someone else). I'm so ashamed.

    And still waiting to hear how one would pronounce walk with the L.

    05.15.06 - 04:00 PM
  • 114. Jeni said:

    Even though I share Memphis as home, and Bartlett High as well, I fear the pronunciation of "crayon," was somehow taught to me as just "crown." But I get ridiculed everywhere that I go. It's just too much effort to say cray-on.

    So, I am in total "agreeance" with you, Heather.

    05.15.06 - 04:01 PM
  • 115. keagansmom said:

    Dooce, baby, so totally funny and so totally WRONG. "crown" is pronounced "crown". "crayon" is pronounced "cray-on". Hot hubbie is totally right! I'm from Massachusetts where we KNOW how to pronounce words correctly: "drawer" is "draw" "car" is "cah" (my husband from Missouri completely disagrees, of course!)
    Now I'm gonna go have some friggin chowda.

    05.15.06 - 04:01 PM
  • 116. theresa said:

    I'm sorry, but crayon is clearly pronounced "cran."
    Per St. Louis.

    05.15.06 - 04:02 PM
  • 117. jomama said:

    I would bet that a lot of southerners who claim they say cray-on are really saying crown but don't realize it.

    05.15.06 - 04:02 PM
  • 118. north said:

    CRAY-YON.

    When I lived in Philadelphia, my boss kept referring to the drawers full of drawings in our office as "draws." That very quickly got on my freaking nerves.

    My wife has a nasty habit of leaving the L out of Volvo. I have lots of fun asking her "what kind of car is that" and hearing "Vo-vo." So there is a word where the L should NOT be silent. However, your hubby is right - Wok, Tok, Chok, etc. No L.

    We have a friend from Rhode Island who constantly gets asked by my wife to pronounce the word "cheddar." Cheddah. Love it. Out here in Seattle people have no accents whatsoever, so anyone with the smallest bit of individuality, voice-wise, is that much more memorable and precious. I say, while you are indeed wrong, keep the accent - it makes you, YOU!

    05.15.06 - 04:03 PM
  • 119. goddesschristine said:

    Cray-on. Not crown, not cran, not crahn, cray-on.

    05.15.06 - 04:04 PM
  • 120. Carrie Johnston said:

    Heather, in my part of Louisiana we say CRAY-on.

    05.15.06 - 04:06 PM
  • 121. katzchen75 said:

    girl, you crazy - who calls them CROWNS? I was surprised to hear your accent is as thick as it is.

    This Connecticut girl thinks that they're CRANS.

    05.15.06 - 04:10 PM
  • 122. deannie said:

    I laughed and laughed when reading this blog entry. My Mom's first language was Spanish and my Dad is a Canadian, so I grew up hearing them debate the correct ponunciation of every imaginable word. Remarkably, the word crayon never entered the annals of correctness.

    I only know this word to be Cray-on, mfg'd by Cray-ola.

    05.15.06 - 04:10 PM
  • 123. BREM experience said:

    Well, I have to side with Jon on this Heather. Sorry.
    Crayon is a french word, which means pencil. As usual, when they transposed it to english, it changed meaning.

    Anyway. We, of french descent pronounce it cray-on. two sillables.

    That's the way it is.

    05.15.06 - 04:10 PM
  • 124. JustLinda said:

    Well, you're both wrong.

    It's CRAY-ahn.

    But I'm from St. Louis and people here say "Highway Farty-Far" instead of Highway Forty-four, and therefore if I were you, I wouldn't listen to a word I say.

    However, I would say the L in talk and walk is not completely silent, and as Miracle Max would tell you MOSTLY silent is not the same as ALL silent.

    05.15.06 - 04:11 PM
  • 125. chelle said:

    Long ago and far away, when I was at USU we mimicked the folks of the Wellsville area with this sentence: GaRsh, DaRthy, that's a gaRges aRange faRmal, are you gonna waR it to th'waRd? (Gosh, Dorothy, that's a gorgeous orange formal, are you going to wear it to the ward?)

    I have to admit, Dooce-girl, you have got QUITE a Utah accent, and having grown up in SLC, I was tickled to hear it. That Y you pronounced was a hoot.

    I think you are fuckin' swell.

    05.15.06 - 04:11 PM
  • 126. deannie said:

    I laughed and laughed when reading this blog entry. My Mom's first language was Spanish and my Dad is a Canadian, so I grew up hearing them debate the correct pronunciation of every imaginable word. Remarkably, the word crayon never entered the annals of correctness.

    I only know this word to be Cray-on, mfg'd by Cray-ola.

    05.15.06 - 04:11 PM
  • 127. JenButNeverJenn said:

    Another vote (are we voting?) for CRAY-on.

    05.15.06 - 04:16 PM
  • 128. uno cinco siete™ said:

    long-time reader, first-time commenter.

    lol, born and raised in los angeles. and it's totally cray-on.

    05.15.06 - 04:17 PM
  • 129. little veg said:

    People from Canada are often hired to read the news in different countries. Why is this? Because we are considered to have one of the most neutral english speaking accents. Thus, what we say (literally) I think goes (maybe I'm biased because I'm Canadian and no, I'm not descended from polygamists or mormons) and we say cray-on. Two syllables, and yes, the 'l' in all of those words is silent. Even my british boyfriend agrees and he's got a "high class" accent.

    As an aside, whenever I read your entries I never imagined you had such a thick southern accent. Now my inner reading voice is totally going to have to change.

    05.15.06 - 04:22 PM
  • 130. BREM experience said:

    On a side note, I would totally love to hear that mormon accent of that Jon of yours who's a descendent of POLYGAMISTS....

    was his grandpa the great prophet? heh

    05.15.06 - 04:22 PM
  • 131. Maya said:

    Here in CA we say "cray-on."

    We also pronounce "walk," "talk," "chalk" etc without the L's. If that helps any.

    05.15.06 - 04:23 PM
  • 132. sherships said:

    The delegate from New York votes for Jon.

    05.15.06 - 04:27 PM
  • 133. lynnhowell said:

    Very rarely do I hear anyone pronounce crayon, "crown." I'm in Houston, TX...we pronounce it CRAY-on. A crown is a crown. (So if you're on the phone and you're telling someone you're picking up crayons off the floor, do you have to follow that with, 'you know...the kind you color with')? But then again, did I mention I'm in Houston? I may not be the best candidate for commenting on pronunciation here.

    Aside from this dreaded affliction, I love you. :P

    05.15.06 - 04:27 PM
  • 134. Devlyn said:

    crae-ahn
    That's how I grew up saying it, and I'm sticking to it.
    And I pronounce the "l" in walk, talk, etc., but it's a soft "l".
    And if you really want to get into pronunciations, howzabout how someone can stick an "r" in the middle of "wash" and "Washington"???

    05.15.06 - 04:34 PM
  • 135. pupkick said:

    "crown"? What incredible debauchery. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

    05.15.06 - 04:35 PM
  • 136. AndreaBT said:

    Heather, it looks like you're outnumbered. Was GEORGE! the only one to agree with you? All I can say is that if it was meant to be pronounced "crown" it would be spelled that way (or at least crawon).

    CRAY-on.

    That is all.

    05.15.06 - 04:35 PM
  • 137. trevordlb said:

    I'm from Texas, but I'm from Austin, Texas, so it doesn't really count... Austinites don't have an accent... In fact, I spent so much of my childhood watching television, that if anything, I have a California accent from all the 90210 and Saved By The Bell...

    You both seem to be at a tie... Heather's Win: The Ts and the Ls are not silent, but they are not hard either... They are soft Ts and Ls... Jon's Win: Crayon is in fact two syllables... It just is; I think that your southern, albeit beautiful, accent is to blame for that one...

    05.15.06 - 04:39 PM
  • 138. kcheva said:

    I've never heard crayon pronounced "crown" nor "cran" but your audio clip totally rocked. For me (and everyone I know) it's cray-on all the way. But then, I live in New York City. We don't use crayons. Just spraypaint.

    Do you say orange with the "or" or the "are" in the beginning? I've had lots of arguments over this one. Same for the o in Florida. Flohrida or Flarrida?

    05.15.06 - 04:39 PM
  • 139. Nat W. said:

    It's crown, plain and simple.

    Walk, talk, and chalk are sometimes pronounced with a silent L, depending on my mood.

    I just recently had it pointed out to me that I say UM-brel-la and ON-line, as opposed to um-BREL-la and on-LINE. My friends swear up and down they're correct. I think they're just damn Yankees who never learned how to talk right.

    Oh, and I wanted to say how much Sigur Ros rocks my world and would kill to see them live one day.

    05.15.06 - 04:41 PM
  • 140. CartwheelsAtMidnight said:

    I'm an Indiana Girl. I say CRAY-ON.

    My Texas friend once said CROWN. I had No Idea what she was saying.

    And once, I was in Alabama while a native friend was asking for a BOBBLE. I made her repeat it 4 times, finally spelling it out: B-I-B-L-E.

    05.15.06 - 04:42 PM
  • 141. c333davis said:

    I'm casting my vote in favor of the periodic pronunciation audio posts.

    For your consideration, I submit a frequent topic of debate between my Floridian self and my New Yorker husband: syrup.

    Is it "sur-up" or "see-rup"...?

    (I suspect you'll side with me, and that would just rule.)

    05.15.06 - 04:42 PM
  • 142. Zee said:

    Sorry to say, I have to side with the two-syllable folks. I've always pronounced it cray-on and so has everyone else I know.

    05.15.06 - 04:46 PM
  • 143. CaseyB said:

    I say CRAY-on, but I have to admit it's very close to CRAN. Most Californians say CRAN.

    05.15.06 - 04:48 PM
  • 144. Seajay said:

    cray-on
    I do pronounce the l's in walk, talk, and chalk.

    05.15.06 - 04:49 PM
  • 145. sarahekite said:

    COLORS. simple. pronouncable (now there's a toughy).

    05.15.06 - 04:52 PM
  • 146. DanielN said:

    Who was that person way back there who said they are from Seattle and pronounce it Cray - on? You must be one of those newcomers. I was born and raised on the Eastside and the correct pronuciation is clearly CRAN. Maybe strectched into 1.5 syllables to Cra'n.

    The real question is did you play Soakum in school, or did you play Dodge-ball? If you didn't play soakum then you ain't from around here.

    Also Wok Tok Chok Samon offen veeicle
    and buoy is pronounced boy as in buoyant and buoyancy, and lifebuoy soap.

    I could go on...

    05.15.06 - 04:53 PM
  • 147. abc said:

    Wow. That is the worst butchering of the English accent I have ever heard... :)

    05.15.06 - 04:54 PM
  • 148. Amanda B. said:

    Noooo, Crown is the word that comes before Royal.

    Cray-On. It's pronounced Cray-On.

    I am SO sending Jon Steely Dan's Greatest Hits. I and II.

    05.15.06 - 04:56 PM
  • 149. abc said:

    ...and, ironically enough, I used mixed metaphors to criticize someone else's English!

    05.15.06 - 04:56 PM
  • 150. The Bold Soul said:

    Sorry babe - Jon wins on cray-on. I live not far from the official Crayola factory and it's definitely two syllables. But I will give you "walk", "talk", etc. While the "L" is officially silent it is there to add DEPTH to the words and to distinguish them from the flat "A" sound as in "whack" and "tack". Let's use that in a sentence, shall we?

    If you don't learn to TALK properly I will WALK across that floor and WHACK you on the side of the head with a sharp, pointy TACK.

    When all else fails, think of how the Brits pronounce the English language -- after all, they invented it -- and then tone it down so it doesn't sound affected, like Madonna does now that she's been living in England.

    05.15.06 - 05:03 PM
  • 151. fred said:

    it is the differences in the language that make us unique... but i have NEVER heard it pronounced CROWN... not even at the point when you go far south enough to start to see the Waffle Houses and Stuckeys... even there.. it has had 2 sylables.

    05.15.06 - 05:06 PM
  • 152. the poet said:

    Heather, I love you and think you are an absolute riot! You can have me in absolute stiches at times. BUT! I have to say that 'crayon' has two syllabuls. (or however you spell it)

    two. and you don't pronoune it like "crown". that just hurts my ears and eats my soul.

    05.15.06 - 05:13 PM
  • 153. Nat W. said:

    Okay, after having read all of the comments, I have some more corrections. And I would also like to point out that I'm a highly educated person and know how to speak "properly," but I'm going to type this exactly as it sounds...

    I ain't NEVER heard ANYone use "YA'LL" as a seengular pronoun. It's ALways plural. It can be "ya'll" or "all ya'll," but they have different meanings. Like, if you see a group of people and you know them as a whole, like you've seen them in this group before, you would say, "Oh, I know ya'll," but if you know each and every one of them individually, you'd say, "I know all ya'll." And I hate it when Yankees try to use "all ya'll" for "ya'll."

    Also, pen and pin sound the same, as do Ben and bin.

    How about pinch? Peench. Orange? Oreenge.

    05.15.06 - 05:18 PM
  • 154. KayTay said:

    I love you Heather, but I too agree with Jon on this one. I grew up in North Carolina and Virgina for some of my childhood and again-love you-but hate the way you southerners butcher words like that.

    05.15.06 - 05:24 PM
  • 155. AnnieM said:

    Um, is anyone else having fun making the AT&T Labs site posted at #89 say dirty sentences? Just asking.

    05.15.06 - 05:25 PM
  • 156. Sunshine said:

    Donch'all know nuthin'?

    A little further south, here in Florda, we call 'em crayawns. Make it about three syllables, 'kay?

    It's a wawk and you tawk with other people...and you're not gettin' ready to do sumthin', you're FIXIN' to do it.

    Would you believe I was born Yankee, and have a college education? It just sorta creeps into you.

    05.15.06 - 05:26 PM
  • 157. pupkick said:

    It's just like "mirror" really, I've never known a single American to pronounce that properly. No, it is NOT "mirr" or "mear"

    05.15.06 - 05:28 PM
  • 158. Claudia said:

    I've lived in NJ my entire life, that may be used against me but I say cray-on.

    05.15.06 - 05:32 PM
  • 159. bluemorpho said:

    Girlfriend, I'm from the wild, untamed coalfields of Southwest Virginia and even my accent isn't THAT strong. Crown? I didn't realize accents were that thick in that corner of Tennessee, and I grew up 45 minutes away from Bristol!

    I pity poor Leta. She's going to have a wild amalgam of hick/Mormon for an accent, and no one will be able to understand the poor child. I believe she will be fine though. She'll subdue any naysayers with the laser beams she'll be able to shoot from her eyes when she gets older, just because she is so awesome.

    Cray-on, crown, it's all dooce to me!
    :)
    Miranda

    05.15.06 - 05:34 PM
  • 160. Gianna said:

    Born and raised in So. Cal, and then married a good ol' Southern boy and moved to GA and hubby and I both weigh in with CRAN. He always gets on my case about "repeat" though- I'm a RE-peat person and he's rep-EET. He kills me with "deserd" instead of desert, and "greezy" instead of greasy. And I vote for soft Ls in walk, talk, chalk. ;-)

    05.15.06 - 05:35 PM
  • 161. Beth said:

    I've also noticed that, around these parts (New England), the L is missing in Cold (CODE) and Hold (HODE). Having been raised here, I think this is only proper.

    05.15.06 - 05:36 PM
  • 162. Jill Murray said:

    Accents are awesome. All of them. You just add and drop as many things from your words as feels right to you.

    Try and control it... well... look what happened to Madonna.

    05.15.06 - 05:41 PM
  • 163. Sandra Heikkinen said:

    "pillow" or "pellow"? "artichoke" or "arty-choke"?

    05.15.06 - 05:44 PM
  • 164. Smacky said:

    Don't kill me but I've pronounced it "Cran" all my life up until now.

    It's now "Cray-on" for me.

    05.15.06 - 05:51 PM
  • 165. Msyvone said:

    Oh my god, Crown? wow.

    I'm a western PA'er (near Pittsburgh) living in Georgia. I get my Yinz' and Y'alls mixed up all the time. When you take something out of the freezer, you "dethaw" it. You don't drink water out of a "pitcher" you take one with a camera. Oh hell, I'm gonna quit jaggin' abaht an jist give you the website, n'at.
    Pittsburghese

    The weirdest accent I've heard is a guy from Scotland, moved to Birmingham, AL at the age of 15. He had this bizzare Scots-baman mix, which would turn dramatically more scottish the more he drank.

    And lastly...Allie, the alabamaian from quote 72 has never seen/heard a Northerner... we all say CRAY-on.

    05.15.06 - 05:55 PM
  • 166. mommiemel said:

    ROTFLOL! I'm having so much fun reading everyone's various pronunciations of all sorts of words! And the text-to-speech link! It's a riot!

    Maybe someone from Canada could please post an audio clip of "aboot". I love that one. There's a design show on one of the TLC type channels with a gal from Canada and I watch it just to hear her say "aboot".

    As for crayons - when I was little, we always called them "colors". But if I read the word "crayon" out loud, it would sound like "cray-on".

    I don't know about those l's though.... That's just too hard for my mind to work on right now.

    05.15.06 - 05:55 PM
  • 167. vicki said:

    Ok solve it the good ole American way...call Crayola the king of crayons.

    www.crayola.com

    "If you have a question or comment regarding Binney & Smith, Crayola.com, or specific products, please visit our Support Center or call 1-800-CRAYOLA weekdays 9am to 4pm EST."

    See they offer to answer any questions with a FREE way to do it.

    «BTW: central Ohio: Cray-on (me) southern Ohio: Crannnnnnnnnnn (redneck hubby)

    05.15.06 - 06:00 PM
  • 168. Nessaness said:

    How do you pronounce Crayola? CROWOLA ????

    05.15.06 - 06:01 PM
  • 169. Stephanie B said:

    I can back you up on the "talk," "walk," etc. pronunciations, but Dooce, dude, it's CRAY-ON. "Mirror" is also two syllables and "orange" is not pronounced "arnge." There. I've said it. To EVERYONE.

    05.15.06 - 06:01 PM
  • 170. RebekaR said:

    Are you guys serious. I have never heard anyone pronounce Walk, Talk or Chalk with the L. Wahlk? That's just plain wrong! It's unAmerican! It must be stopped!!

    ;)

    05.15.06 - 06:02 PM
  • 171. kwan said:

    Sorry Heather, but you're wrong this go-round. Jon 1, Heather 0.

    05.15.06 - 06:03 PM
  • 172. andibon said:

    Pronunciation is an issue in our house too. I grew up in NC, my husband in Boston and we now live north of Boston. Our son is 7 months, and the discussions about the proper way to say things has begun.
    That being said, it's CRAY-ON. I've never heard anyone say crown.
    Wow.

    05.15.06 - 06:03 PM
  • 173. Msyvone said:

    Oh Crap, how could I forget my fathers silent L in Colorado? "Cadarado!" and "Prue-ins" (Pruins) Not that Pruins has a silent L.

    05.15.06 - 06:05 PM
  • 174. sp said:

    i'm an LA girl [and we all know that the standard American accent is defined by Hollywood and the movies/television that it exports to the rest of the US], and we say CRAY-ON.

    05.15.06 - 06:06 PM
  • 175. April-Lyn Caouette said:

    I say CRAY-on. But I love the southern accent, so it's CROWN if you say it is :) Me and my Yankee accent will keep saying cray-on and wok and chok and tok, though.

    05.15.06 - 06:08 PM
  • 176. redheadwriter said:

    Being from the land of "Fargo," I can safely say it's pronounced "cray-on" with two syllables, doncha know.

    Now "axe" me another one.

    05.15.06 - 06:10 PM
  • 177. cfasano said:

    Dude... like your stuff, but you are CRA-ZEE... I got cray on or even cran, but CROWN?? what is that? If that's how you pronounce Crayon, then what's that on the kings head???? (no it ain't "hair" either)

    Cmon now, make some sense, even Mr. Rogers pronounces it CRAN.

    05.15.06 - 06:11 PM
  • 178. jlf said:

    What the fuck was that? Heather, you sound like a hillbilly. Please have Jon, and Leta, say crayon, also. No wonder you write...
    And, Heather, I think you are master...thanks, keep going. Hollywood will be calling you once again, offering you your own show. And, you should, but have you and the family in animation, or something- not live humans. Hey, folks- you read it here first because, I guarentee I am not the first to think of it...God, it would be fucking hilarious...and please keep giving sound bytes. Great stuff...
    Thanks-
    jlf

    05.15.06 - 06:12 PM
  • 179. sassy7cassy said:

    Wow. I have NEVER heard the CROWN version. Here in Ohio some people say CRAN, some say "cray-on". I go back and forth. I usually say crayon but when I babysit 2 little girls with New Zealander parents (and accents), I find myself busting out the two syllables.

    05.15.06 - 06:14 PM
  • 180. Torrie said:

    WOW.

    How do you pronounce LAUNDRY?
    Lawn-dree or Lon-dree?

    05.15.06 - 06:15 PM
  • 181. Beth in Michigan said:

    Crown? Now that's a new one!

    Please pass the crans...so, what color are recovering mormons? Would that be ap-ri-cot or ape-ree-cot?

    05.15.06 - 06:15 PM
  • 182. Sheana said:

    Hmm... I've never even heard of "CROWN" until now. I imagine Cray-on is the most common, though I'm one of the pitiful few who pronounces it "CRAN" - I'm from Arizona, where we have (almost) no accent.

    05.15.06 - 06:18 PM
  • 183. Sandy said:

    I've lived all 35 years of my life in Canada, and I've only ever heard it pronounced as "cray-on". Then again, what is this fuss about "aboot"? I have never heard it pronounced it like this in my life!? And by the way, foyer is pronounced "foy-eh" and roof is "roof" not "ruff"... I believe it is Eastern Canadians that give the rest of us a bad rap. I also once met a girl from "Terrana" (?). It took me three hours to realize that she was from "To-ron-to".

    05.15.06 - 06:19 PM
  • 184. Newly Commentous said:

    Girl, please--if you're from the South, and I know you are, we all heard you (and I recognize my own kind instantly) you use aw-ull the syllables you can; it's CRAY-YAWN.

    05.15.06 - 06:19 PM
  • 185. thecapebuffalo said:

    sweet mother of god, i feel lile I'm taking crazy pills. Do you ask Leta to plow in traffic? No. you ask her to play in traffic.
    the letters a+y make a long A sound. Cray-on
    There is not an ou/ ow combination in that word. I teach reading and I know these things.

    Therefore your husband is correct.

    Honestly, woman you call yourself a valedictorian.

    05.15.06 - 06:28 PM
  • 186. The Mighty Jimbo said:

    you know i love your website and stuff, but really, this crown stuff, it makes me wonder what language they speak in TN. crayon. CRAY-ON. kids in cambodia get this one right.

    05.15.06 - 06:29 PM
  • 187. Lisa Ferris said:

    I'm from the midwest (where all newscasters are recruited from) and I say Cray-ON. Sorry. Here in the Pacific NW, it's Cray-on, too.

    And, my, my. I never knew you had such a southern accent! What got me more than you saying crown was you spelling c-r-a-y-o-n! It was the 'Y' that did it!
    You say Waa instead of Why.

    I think I drop my L's in Walk and Talk as well, though...so what do I know??

    05.15.06 - 06:31 PM
  • 188. Liss said:

    Not too long ago, on Oprah, she had the makers of crayons on the show and it was pronounced CRAY-ON. But living in Utah you have other wordisms to fear like crick (creek)and tolit (toilet).

    05.15.06 - 06:31 PM
  • 189. di said:

    Crown?!?! I've lived in the south my whole life and have never heard anyone call a crayon a crown. CRAY-ON! However, now that I've spent the last few minutes repeating the word out loud, it sounds ridiculous no matter which way it is pronounced.

    05.15.06 - 06:34 PM
  • 190. sarah said:

    Crayon has 2 syllables. However, my southern Memaw always called me her Lil' yankee.

    05.15.06 - 06:37 PM
  • 191. jes lamb said:

    I grew up in Lakeland, FL, which very well may be as bad as Tennessee. I was told at the age of 5, when I originally pronounced cray-on "crown" that it was wrong. I changed my bad grammar ways. My fiance, however, says crown. Oh, and I definitely pronounce the L in walk, talk, and chalk. I'm with you on 3 of four.

    05.15.06 - 06:48 PM
  • 192. kookaloo said:

    Okay, so I grew up in Mid-Michigan (fairly normal-like TV, not the UP which sounds like MN or Fargo) and have bounced around to KY, TX, and MA with return pitstops in MI in between. I've also spent some time in VT, NH, and ME and everywhere I've been, there seems to be concurrence regarding CRAY-ON. However- there have been many a discrepancy, nay, I say BATTLE over pop/soda (sod-er, or the even stranger- TONIC in the NE), pupcorn/popcorn (again, NE), IN-shurence or in-SHUR-ence, SEE-ment/suh-MENT, UM-brella/um-BRELLA, ROOf/ruhff, wash/warsh, pillow/pellow, milk/maaalk, water/wuh-ter...I could go on, and on, and on...It seems that every time you're new to some of these places the way to check out your cool kid vibe is to test out how you say these words. Then there's the whole issue of different words for the same object- drinking fountain=bubbler (pronounced bubb-lah), Chesterfield=couch=sofa, basement=cellar, bureau=dresser. I'm telling you- meet a guy who can't (cahn't) say your name right and it's probably gonna be a deal break-ah. I'm Courtney, Buddy- Court-Knee, not Kaaht-knee, Quart-knee, or some such other nonsense. I use crayons, drink milk and pop (unless it's a real Coke), eat popcorn, lay my head on a pillow on the couch while I do wash. When it rains I use an um-BRELLA; my ruhff doesn't leak but I'm covered by in-SHURence in case it does, and I've also got a solid suh-MENT floor in the basement. My pet peeve is when someone hocks a loogie in the drinking fountain at the gym and the water pressure is low so you practically get your nose in it. OK, I'm done.

    05.15.06 - 06:49 PM
  • 193. literatigirl said:

    Heather, I don't know what the H you're talking about. I lived in Georgia for years, and my sister-in-law who is from Tennessee via Mississipppi, agrees with me. "Crown" is something you wear on your head. In fact, most southerners I polled prefer the disyallabic CRAY-on with the accent on the first syllable. I say "cran" but almost with two syllables.

    And I don't know what you all are talking about with no l's in these words. We definitely say the L's in walk, talk, balk, at least slightly. We certainly do not say Wahk or tahk, who does that? Bostonians?

    05.15.06 - 06:53 PM
  • 194. Marella said:

    I have always pronounced crayon as cray-on. I currently live in the Pacific NW, but I have lived in Guam beforehand and lived with parents who have originated from the Philippines. Crown and crayon have two distinct pronounciations in my mind. Then again, I'm one of few who are able to pronounce cot and caught differently amongst my peers. ;)

    05.15.06 - 06:55 PM
  • 195. Lackey said:

    FFS. I had to go recover my password to do this but...

    http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?crayon01.wav=crayon

    IN YOUR FACE!

    05.15.06 - 06:56 PM
  • 196. Anu said:

    I've always pronounced it as Cray-on, but then I'm from India, so does my vote still count:-)

    Also, since you opened this up for debate will you be tallying the results? Going by the flow of comments, Jon might get you to agree with him after all.

    05.15.06 - 06:57 PM
  • 197. Jonniker said:

    I can't. I CAN'T. I want to, but I can't.

    And you totally know you can't, otherwise why bring it up? WE CAN'T. THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.

    Crayon. Like it's spelled. I can't. I CAN'T.

    05.15.06 - 07:03 PM
  • 198. Rebecca said:

    I've always pronounced it CRAY-ON. Then again, I'm from Canada, where we call winter hats "tukes".

    05.15.06 - 07:03 PM
  • 199. katem9579 said:

    Nope sorry it has always been cray on in my life and everyone I have ever known here pronounces it that way. I do live in the south so it could make a difference but I have to admit I laughed a good 5 mintues after hearing you pronounce it crown. I have never heard that.

    05.15.06 - 07:04 PM
  • 200. betina said:

    I had never heard crayon pronounced "CROWN" until I went to BYU. I had no idea what my roommate was talking about, where on earth would I find a crown for her? What did she think she was, a princess or something!?

    Oh oh.

    There may be more Mormon in you than you think ;)

    05.15.06 - 07:04 PM
  • 201. maryhead said:

    That's interesting, I can honestly say I've never heard anyone pronounce crayon that way. I know some people who say cran, and I myself say cray-on, but crown's a new one.

    What are your feelings on the t in often? I say offen, my boyfriend says off-ten, and it causes much strife whenever one of us has to use a synonym for "frequently."

    05.15.06 - 07:09 PM
  • 202. Jennifer in Ohio said:

    Sorry, I'm with Jon on this one.

    The "L" really is silent in walk, talk, etc.
    And I pronouce it cray-on.

    You do have a heavy duty southern accent. I have never ever heard anyone say it like "crown" in my life. If you teach Leta to say it like that, you better teach her to hold her own on the playground.

    05.15.06 - 07:10 PM
  • 203. lildb snack said:

    1) George! is killin' me. "CROWN, BITCHES!"

    2) you have gotten some people into some serious knots over this topic. it's delicious.

    3) tomato, tomotto. who gives a Stephen Colbert who's right? I certainly don't. although, yes, it is going to be one of the more interesting skirmishes you face with your fella in the future. aren't those fun?!

    4) GEORGE!

    05.15.06 - 09:02 PM
  • 204. lildb snack said:

    1) George! is killin' me. "CROWN, BITCHES!"

    2) you have gotten some people into some serious knots over this topic. it's delicious.

    3) tomato, tomotto. who gives a Stephen Colbert who's right? I certainly don't. although, yes, it is going to be one of the more interesting skirmishes you're facing with your fella in the future. aren't those fun?!

    4) GEORGE!

    05.15.06 - 09:02 PM
  • 205. Tabbie said:

    I say cray-on but then again I have had the fortunate/unfortunate experience of being told I had an "Al Gore" Nashville accent as opposed to the country music Tennessee accent.

    Just make sure Leta drinks cokes and not sodas.

    05.15.06 - 09:03 PM
  • 206. Cindi in Illinois said:

    Whoa! I have never heard anyone pronounce it crown until I heard you do it here. I am with Jon on this one. I would love to hear an audio clip of you saying, "Leta here is a brown crayon to color the queen's crown".

    I have discovered in the last five years or so that my mother (she is 65 years old)pronounces words differently than she ever did before. When she says wreath, it sounds like "reef" and when she says broth it sounds like "broff". What's up with that I wonder? She never used to do that. Just tonight she said the word dyslexia like "dillexia" and when I corrected her she was very offended. She told me I knew what she meant and should just accept it. I felt bad about hurting her feelings.

    I say something that drives my friends here crazy. I know they are correct in their opinion but I think it must be how my northern relatives say it....if someone asks me to go somewhere with them, I might say "Oh yeah I would love to go with". They look at me oddly and say "go with what?" Then I have to correct myself for their benefit and say, "I would love to go with YOU!" Does anyone else say it like I do?

    05.15.06 - 07:15 PM
  • 207. maryhead said:

    Sorry, one more question. Do awesome and possum rhyme? In my opinion, they TOTALLY do! A friend of mine insists that they do not, but she has such a heavy Jersey accent that I fear for her soul.

    05.15.06 - 07:16 PM
  • 208. Mary Jo said:

    Okay... it's SO NOT CROWN! UGH! haha... Jon is right. It's Cray-On.

    05.15.06 - 07:22 PM
  • 209. leftygrrrl said:

    Here in Missouri (mizz-ur-ee, there is a sharp division among our populus. Some pronounce Missouri the correct way (see above) and some say "mizz-ur-ah". So is it the Mississippa Riva?

    What about caramel? Is it care-ah-mel or car-mel?

    My boyfriend used to say "correck" instead of "correct." Oh the irony.

    Anyway, I think you're all wrong. The real pronunciation of crayon is like a cross between cray-on and cran. So there. But it is definitely NOT pronounced CROWN. But I admire you for sticking to your guns, Heather.

    05.15.06 - 07:32 PM
  • 210. Erin said:

    I guess it is merely a Californian thing, this "cran" business. Then again, I pronounce "both" as "bowlth" so consequently I sound as if I've never discovered Dayquil.

    We're all at a loss!

    05.15.06 - 07:33 PM
  • 211. golexx said:

    Heather, are you on crack?? ;) CRACK, that's pronounced CRAKK, not CRAY-ACK hehe

    05.15.06 - 07:37 PM
  • 212. Jenna said:

    Crayon = Cran. With an extremely awesome nasal 'an' sound.

    I'm from Michigan.

    05.15.06 - 07:52 PM
  • 213. little veg said:

    To the person who said you should follow what the Brits do:

    There is one VERY important exception. If they're from Yorkshire you shouldn't. I have a friend who's a yorkie and she pronounces the words: source, sauce, sores, and sorts all the same. And pussy as in a wound and pussy as in a kitten are both said the same. Teaching Leta to speak like that would just lead to mass confusion.

    05.15.06 - 07:54 PM
  • 214. dre said:

    Oh fuck - I'm a CRAN!

    05.15.06 - 07:56 PM
  • 215. Chelley said:

    Sorry, Heather, but I'm absolutely with John on this one. I grew up in South Texas and now live in Nashville -- so it doesn't get much more southern than that. It's Cray-on. :)

    05.15.06 - 08:15 PM
  • 216. BarbaraM said:

    All those California guys and gals who said "cray-on? Well, you may think that's what, like, should come out of our mouths... but like, it's CRAN--totally, come on!!

    05.15.06 - 08:16 PM
  • 217. GEORGE! said:

    F ALL Y'ALL

    CROWNS FOR LIFE HEATHER!

    Just like it's "I'm going to the grocery" not "I'm going to the grocery store"

    05.15.06 - 08:17 PM
  • 218. Karl Erikson said:

    Crown? CROWN? I've never heard such a pronunciation of crayon before. So what does a queen wear on top of her head? A crayon? Nope. Crayon is definitely two syllables and it's pronounced like it looks. Cray On. It'll be interesting to see how that gorgeous little girl of yours pronounces the word in 20 years, though, that's for sure.

    05.15.06 - 08:20 PM
  • 219. GEORGE! said:

    Everyone has the same argument.

    "WHAT WOULD YOU CALL WHAT A QUEEN WEARS ON HER HEAD THEN?????????? OMGGGGGGG"

    Originality people...

    05.15.06 - 08:22 PM
  • 220. barbie2be said:

    here in california we pronounce it CRAY-ON, just like it's spelled.

    05.15.06 - 08:39 PM
  • 221. Catherine said:

    Heather, I love your site dearly, but CROWN? Seriously, crown? Could you explain to me, exactly which letters in the word ''crayon" correspond to the sound that CROWN makes? I thought you were kidding. My dear heavens. It's like rayon, the fabric. But with a C. Do you pronounce the fabric "rown." If you do, well, I just won't know what to say.

    05.15.06 - 08:40 PM
  • 222. shopgirl75 said:

    Ummmm... CROWN!??!?!

    WTF?!?!?!!

    Love everything about Dooce and am completely addicted. Also obsessed with Chuck.

    But CROWN!???!?!

    05.15.06 - 09:03 PM
  • 223. Pierre Andersson said:

    In Swedish Cray-On is "krita". And we ALWAYS pronounce L:s. Just thought you would like to know.

    05.15.06 - 09:04 PM
  • 224. lildb snack said:

    er, oops. sorry for the duo-post.

    05.15.06 - 09:04 PM
  • 225. Denise Y. said:

    I'm from Toronto, and up here, we pronounce crayon as CRAY-ON. We also pronounce walk as "wock" and talk as "tock."

    I've never heard crayon being pronounced as CROWN or CRAN. America is a weird, weird place. :P

    05.15.06 - 09:04 PM
  • 226. shopgirl75 said:

    Ummmm... CROWN!??!?!

    WTF?!?!?!!

    Love everything about Dooce and am completely addicted. Also obsessed with Chuck.

    But CROWN!???!?!

    05.15.06 - 09:04 PM
  • 227. Donny said:

    Crown? WTF? Where did THAT come from?

    Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on. Cray-on.

    :)

    05.15.06 - 09:07 PM
  • 228. Hillary said:

    I've got to go with Jon on this one, too. CRAY-ON. And wok and tok. You really pronounce the L's?

    Oh, and moun'n. No t. But that's just cause I'm lazy.

    05.15.06 - 09:15 PM
  • 229. mandee said:

    well i'm not a new yorker, but a bostonian and we pronounce it as cran aswell. although once while working in a restaurant, an out-of-towner came in and i asked if she would like some "crans" for her kids. she couldnt understand me so i tried repeating myself in different ways. "crans. craaaaannnnnns, craNs, cra'ns" finally she said "oooohhhh CRAY-ONS." and even though the pronounciation of crans make your ears bleed, i listened to your audio clip a couple of times trying to figure out how you got crown out of c-r-a-y-o-n. and i don't understand that one.

    05.15.06 - 09:17 PM
  • 230. Tabbie said:

    I can't listen to the clip because everyone is ASLEEP! Arghh!

    Anyway, you and Jon should pull an Eliza Doolittle/ West Side story and sing angry pronounciation songs at each other while snapping your fingers.

    05.15.06 - 09:32 PM
  • 231. KevinCharnas said:

    I think that only dumbshits from Michigan say "CRAN", like rather than saying, "Oh my god...", they say, "Oh my gad." I say we douse 'em with pepper spray and kick them in their crotches.

    05.15.06 - 09:37 PM
  • 232. TxSuzyQ said:

    How do you get the "ow" sound out of "Cray"? It's definitely Cray-On.

    Do you also Warsh your hands or do you Wash them? lol

    05.15.06 - 10:11 PM
  • 233. Jackie said:

    I always thought that I didn't talk like a southerner until I took a linguistics class and realized that I did all the horrible things southerners do... like drop t's. It must be a regional thing. What about syrup?-- that word is a lightning rod of controversy.

    05.15.06 - 10:30 PM
  • 234. Fuzzy said:

    Heather
    I'm Irish and the world knows (or should know) that the Irish speak the best English in the world. Jon is correct the word is CRAY-ON.

    05.15.06 - 10:35 PM
  • 235. meganlc said:

    cray-ON. totally.

    05.15.06 - 10:43 PM
  • 236. Jane said:

    Cindi in Illinois - I'm with you there. Also, I've picked up from somewhere replacing "though" with "but" in certain sentences.

    i.e. instead of "That rose is pretty; the thorns are spiky though." it comes out as "That rose is pretty; the thorns are spiky, but."

    I think that could just be a NZ/Aus thing though?

    05.15.06 - 11:09 PM
  • 237. creed_nm said:

    Hi Heather.

    As an Englishman and advocate of the Queen's English, I take some amount of pride in the language you Yanks must insist on mangling on a daily basis; therefore I have to break it to you that you are flat out wrong here, and Jon is right: it's cray-on. Two very distinct and obvious syllables, now matter how your southern drawl batters the language and hammers them together beyond obvious reason.

    I suggest the best thing all round would be to expose Leta to some fine British TV films of the 40s and 50s to mitigate some of the obvious oral and aural damage your attempts at pronounciation are inflicting in her formative years.

    And don't get me started on how you lot pronounce 'aluminium'...

    :)

    05.15.06 - 11:33 PM
  • 238. Kate said:

    cray-on.

    is that really how thick your accent is? that's fabulous.

    05.15.06 - 11:35 PM
  • 239. Kristine said:

    Jon's right. It's Cray-on.
    I'm pretty sure Uppercase God would agree.

    05.16.06 - 12:05 AM
  • 240. Martin said:

    So how do you pronounce CROWN? CRAY-ON? "The king put a CRAY-ON on his head".? ;) Sorry, but I'm siding with the Blurb too..!

    05.16.06 - 12:09 AM
  • 241. englishman said:

    Take it from an englishman - it's cray-on not crown. :)

    05.16.06 - 12:15 AM
  • 242. Janet said:

    I don't have an American accent because I'm English. Here in England, crayon has two syllables. So.. really.. he is right as far and how you pronounce crayon in English.

    But then, you are right as far as how you pronounce crayon in your accent.. it's just not the 'official' pronounciation I guess (although I still really don't understand how you got crown out of crayon - but then you do live in a country that calls a fringe bangs.. what's that about?)

    P.S. I really don't listen to jazz.

    05.16.06 - 12:35 AM
  • 243. Verity W said:

    The whole of England (and as far as I know the rest of the United Kingdom) say Cray-on. Sorry Heather! I can only assume that the American nation have done some weird things to the English language over the years to get to "crown" for crayon. I know you all hate us, but still!

    And whoever mentioned Aluminium, don't even get me started...

    05.16.06 - 12:39 AM
  • 244. Amy said:

    I grew up pronouncing it crown. Of course, I was raised in a family that pronounced Bower as Bar.

    05.16.06 - 12:40 AM
  • 245. Scheherazade said:

    So how do you pronounce "crown" then?

    I'm with John on the pronunciation.

    05.16.06 - 01:20 AM
  • 246. Mari said:

    In Connecticut, it's CRAN. I've actually never heard anyone pronouncing it 'crown' before in my life. It's quite pleasant.

    05.16.06 - 01:35 AM
  • 247. SueFromOhio said:

    Are you sure Jon isn't from Ohio? We Yanks here pronounce it with 2 syllables also...however, we have been known to say WARSH instead of WASH, AMBLIANCE instead of AMBULANCE and NUCULAR instead of NUCLEAR--hehehe

    05.16.06 - 02:01 AM
  • 248. SueFromOhio said:

    OOH OOH (and for the sake of phonetics, I'll spell the words the way I pronounce them) WHEEL-BAR-O not WHEEL-BARREL...GROSS-ER-EE not GROSH-ER-EE...hmmmm, SHER-BIT not SHER-BERT

    HEY, this is fun :)

    05.16.06 - 02:09 AM
  • 249. Kelly said:

    Crown? Noooo.

    Love your site, been reading it for well over a year now (believe I stumbled upon it after reading the definition of being "dooced" at urbandictionary.com and was hooked ever since), but it is so NOT crown. Cray-on.

    05.16.06 - 02:51 AM
  • 250. Magellan said:

    I like the brown crown.

    05.16.06 - 02:54 AM
  • 251. Kathleen said:

    I say Cray-on.
    And I think I drop my L's too (please audio clip the non-dropprd L's!)
    My mother's family is from Tennessee, and they all say Cray-on, but they DO say it fast and southern-like, so I guess they COULD be saying CROWN.

    I know how you feel about pronounciation, though. My husband's family is from just outside of Boston, and they speak pure Good Will Hunting. Most R's are dropped (Get in the CAH, You'ah Wicked Smaht!) and certain one syllable words have two syllables (This is My-un, Stand ovah They-ah.) I make my kids watch TV so that they are exposed to what I consider correct pronounciation.

    05.16.06 - 03:18 AM
  • 252. minxlj said:

    It's definitely CRAY-ON. I say that as an actual English person, speaking English, not American :-) But pronouncing it CRAWN with a cute southern accent is just WAY funnier!!!

    05.16.06 - 03:18 AM
  • 253. noodlebugs said:

    sooo.....how does everyone pronounce "caramel"?

    05.16.06 - 03:19 AM
  • 254. ErinG said:

    Cran. We color with crans!

    And I completley understand where Heather is coming from on the walk/talk/chalk thing. The "L" may be silent, but it is inherent in the actual pronunciation and sounds odd when left out. This is best learned by obtaining a foreign husband, who adds and subtracts all sorts of different letters and sounds from words that are best left alone!

    05.16.06 - 03:22 AM
  • 255. ErinG said:

    Care-a-mel! It's just funner that way!

    05.16.06 - 03:23 AM
  • 256. Lucie said:

    Now, come on. I know you Americans like to cut 2/3 of the syllables in most words (while inexplicably making the remaining syllables really, really drawn out) but this is getting a bit silly.

    MY dictionary wasn't written by Yankee or any American, and it says 'crayon' is two syllables. :)

    And while we're on the subject, please re-insert the I in 'aluminIum'.

    Regards,

    The Pedant.

    05.16.06 - 03:25 AM
  • 257. ErinG said:

    Lucie- on the same token words that end in "a" do not have an "r" sound attached. *wink*

    05.16.06 - 03:34 AM
  • 258. munchlove said:

    Ah! It hurts!!

    05.16.06 - 03:42 AM
  • 259. bexcetera said:

    I can't come with you on this. A CRAYon is something you colour with, a crown is something the Queen wears/avery expensive dental experience.

    *sips tea*

    *jams u's into words that don't need them*

    05.16.06 - 03:42 AM
  • 260. Kelli said:

    OH MY GAWD!
    This is such a sore subject in my house. My husband and I are both native Texans, but he has MUCH more of a drawl than I do. And he says 'crown'. It makes me crazy. It's CRAY-ON. CRAY-ON.

    Of course, I think I have issues with the whole mispronunciation thing. My grandmother used to pronounce Colorado as Call-uh-RAID-uh and Hawaii and HUH-WHY-YUH. ACK. When we visited her, you could often find me huddled in the corner of the back room, fingers in my ears, rocking back and forth to comfort myself.

    05.16.06 - 03:45 AM
  • 261. KookieDangerous said:

    Ok, this is the definitive answer. It comes from an English teacher who is twice descended from English teachers. The fluent use of three other languages helps, too, so there's a good point of reference.
    PLUS it comes from a dictionary studier who was raised in Central Western Pennsylvania-long known as the research-supported region that speaks the purest un-accented form of American Standard English.
    walk talk and chalk all have an ever so slightly glottal recognition of the l and crayon is indeed cray-on, and it's cah-rah-mel.
    Now you know why my nickname is what it is. =-)

    05.16.06 - 03:47 AM
  • 262. Teeny225 said:

    Sorry Dooce, love the site, but how in the name of all that is good and holy does cray-on become crown??!! It's just wrong, people. CRAY-ON.

    'kay?!!

    05.16.06 - 03:47 AM
  • 263. Sara said:

    You 2 can argue all you want over pronunciation. But in a few years Leta is going to have the same accent her friends do.

    05.16.06 - 03:48 AM
  • 264. tinam said:

    It's cray-on. And I'm as southern as they come (Tennessee). I've never heard it pronounced *crown*!!! LOL Nor can I imagine walk, talk, chalk without the *L*.

    My first time commenting here - love your site and love the pictures of that cutie patootie - Leta.

    tina

    05.16.06 - 03:49 AM
  • 265. iggygrl76 said:

    Its Cray-on always been Cray-on thats kinda why its spelled crayon Crayon not CROWN thats you know kinda hillbilly.

    05.16.06 - 03:50 AM
  • 266. janeH said:

    As an English type person I say CRAY-ON

    05.16.06 - 03:54 AM
  • 267. ksdavies said:

    OK...seriously, people. If you don't have one handy, try dictionary.com. Cray-on. Two syllables. Tour...one syllable.

    I'm in the South...born and raised here and haven't managed to escape, yet. But even *I* can prounounce crayon correctly. Let your fingers do the walkin'.

    Thank you Kookie! I hadn't checked caramel and I really perfer the 3 syllable pronounciation!

    And while we're on the topic...was my Dad pulling my leg about the pronounciation of flutist?! He insisted on saying flout-ist...

    05.16.06 - 03:55 AM
  • 268. thleen said:

    Hey Heather...
    We say cran in our family...but I say go for it. Start a revolution. Crowns Bitches!
    And I am with cassie_paige...gimme the purple one and stopping eating the blue one. and color outside the lines!

    05.16.06 - 03:56 AM
  • 269. Amber said:

    Amber of Norfolk, Va., via Valdosta, Ga., backs you. It's CROWN.

    Also I'd love to hear you pronounce "pecan" and "aunt." Where I come from it's PEE-can and ANT. In Virginia now it's puh-CAHN and ONT. Ugh, not even.

    05.16.06 - 03:56 AM
  • 270. anotherjenny said:

    I will never read a post again without hearing your accent. Don't worry, it just increases your snark factor. There is nothing more snarky than a smart ass woman with a southern accent. Nothing. In college, since there were folks from places like NJ, Minnesota, and South Carolina together in one place, there were many entertaining conversations regarding the pronounciation of various words. I used to get slack for the way I pronounce antenna, but have never gotten anyone to explain exactly what was so gd funny.

    05.16.06 - 04:02 AM
  • 271. creed_nm said:

    Absolute, utter proof it is cray-on from those nice people on Seseme Street:

    http://www.sesameworkshop.org/sesamestreet/games/flash.php?contentId=7209016&

    How many times do they have to say it before you get it right Heather, and do the decent thing and apologise to Jon?

    :)

    05.16.06 - 04:04 AM
  • 272. Herb Fairy said:

    I am from Pittsburgh. We say Cray-on. But of course I also call pepsi and coke pop and not soda.

    05.16.06 - 04:04 AM
  • 273. MeLKist said:

    AAAHHHH!!! Most of my relatives speak with that Utah mountain accent. It drives me insane. My husband (a lapsed presbyterian) doesn't understand Mormon Utah and its specific idiosyncracies.

    Until I made him watch the new episode of "what not to wear" with the chick from SLC. The verbal equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard for me. He finally went "Ohhhhhh... so THAT is what you are talking about. Yeah. Pure Mountain Evil."

    Crowns. Definitely. Having nothing to do with the fact that I spent most of my formative years in the south. I swear.

    05.16.06 - 04:06 AM
  • 274. kenniecat said:

    CRAY-on.

    I grew up in Salt Lake City and lived there 30 of my 35 years.

    People that said "crown" were definitely from somewhere else. :)

    05.16.06 - 04:10 AM
  • 275. saralyn said:

    I feel like I need to come to your defense! I say "CROWN" and always have, so does my sister. We both spent our formative years (she until 11, myself until 8) in little pockets of Mid and Mid-to-South Virginia. I've been in the DC Metro area since I was 8, and I've lost almost all of my accent, but I still say "CROWN". So there.

    05.16.06 - 04:11 AM
  • 276. clhannah said:

    If you really want to start a firestorm - debate the pronunciation of BAYOU.

    05.16.06 - 04:14 AM
  • 277. biodtl said:

    Another Yankee (Pittsburgh) weighing in with CRAY-on.

    05.16.06 - 04:16 AM
  • 278. blogthemagnificentferret said:

    A solid vote for the Midwestern CRAN. I think in the years that I've lived in Tennessee, it's degenerated into CRAY-un, but just about every word in Tennessee has one more syllable than it did in Illinois. Except for "fire," which has been shrunk to FAHR, instead of FY-yer.

    In seven years of living in Tennessee, I've never heard anybody say "crown." What backward, pestilent, sibling-marrying part of the state are you from?

    BTW, it's fascinating to me that you say Mormons drop the "T" in "Mountain." I've never lived in Utah, but I noticed people doing that when I lived in New York: they didn't pronounce the t in "bottle"--there'd be this little stop in the middle of the word: "bo--ul." Are you sure they're Mormons and not old Jewish people from Brooklyn?

    05.16.06 - 04:19 AM
  • 279. Ms. Pants said:

    California native, currently living in Texas. I'm a "cray-on" gal. But here, I've also heard "cray'n" which doesn't bug me too much.

    05.16.06 - 04:19 AM
  • 280. kendall said:

    I'm from Baltimore and say CROWN with pride.

    I'm with you Heather and GEORGE! Screw everyone else.

    05.16.06 - 04:20 AM
  • 281. jacks said:

    A midwesterner weighing in - CRAY-ON.

    05.16.06 - 04:22 AM
  • 282. Mine said:

    I say CRAY-ON (say what you see)

    so how do you say Crown then H??

    05.16.06 - 04:24 AM
  • 283. Brad Martin said:

    My best-friend/hetero-lifemate pronounces the word pillow as PELLow, and it drives me nuts. I always ask him, "what do you snort a lot of?" To which he replies, "Pills." And then I ask him what he rests his head on at night and he says, "My pellow, dude."

    05.16.06 - 04:26 AM
  • 284. Jaida said:

    Arkansan here and there are people who pronounce "water" or "Washington" with an "R". WaRter or WaRshington!!!

    Go ahead and color with a CROWN! I'll be using MARKERS! hehehe!

    05.16.06 - 04:26 AM
  • 285. kalisah said:

    I was raised in Northern Virginia and have always subscribed to the two-syllable version. I'm raising My Kid in Memphis and now I understand why he says "crown." Here I thought maybe he had a speech impediment.

    05.16.06 - 04:32 AM
  • 286. SMD said:

    Having spent time in Easton, PA, home of Crayola, it's two syllables - cray-on. Sorry Heather!

    I love all the accents in this country! I've rotated through the Jersey, Boston, Texas and NYC accents - maybe I'll move to Utah and try the Morman one next!

    05.16.06 - 04:34 AM
  • 287. geeky said:

    cray-on. but then again, you'd call me a "yankee" :)

    05.16.06 - 04:35 AM
  • 288. Amy said:

    Hate to say it, Heather, but I'm with Jon in the great crayon debate. I battle with my family in south Louisiana over the correct pronunciation of mayonnaise. These people think MY-nez is the way to go, but it really doesn't sound like anything I'd want near my sandwich.

    05.16.06 - 04:37 AM
  • 289. paper said:

    it should be obvious, "colored pencil" is both the prefered writing/coloring instrument, and the preferred pronunciation!

    05.16.06 - 04:44 AM
  • 290. wealhtheow said:

    CRAY-ON!! But thanks to my Bostonian mother, I was propbably 20 before I realized that everyone around me pronounced "loafers" as "Loaf-errrrrs" instead of the far more civilized "loaf-ahs." Barbarians.

    05.16.06 - 04:44 AM
  • 291. flytrixie said:

    Sorry, Heather...I work for that big greeting card company (yeah, you know the one) that owns Crayola, and trust me, Crayola makes 'kray-ons'. A 'crown' is what appears above the company name in our logo.

    05.16.06 - 04:47 AM
  • 292. Teresa said:

    In our household both my husband and I pronouce it Cray-on, but our oldest child says Crown. Now you choose the smarter grouping, child or adult.

    05.16.06 - 04:47 AM
  • 293. mkdaugherty said:

    Wow. This may be the first time I've read your site and disagreed with you :) You don't have to tell Jon he's right, though - husbands do not need that sort of leverage.

    05.16.06 - 04:48 AM
  • 294. guinnevere said:

    oh lord heather you dont really talk like that. honestly. i can tell youre one of those people who spent their entire young adult life training the hick right out of yourself with foreign films and too much booze. which was counterproductive, by the way.

    05.16.06 - 04:49 AM
  • 295. Byron said:

    Hi Heather, first time to comment - but just had to :)

    Cray-on - definitely :)

    Tauk
    Wauk
    Chauk

    etc.

    :)

    05.16.06 - 04:54 AM
  • 296. Territorial said:

    This Canadian pronounces it Cray-on eh!

    05.16.06 - 04:59 AM
  • 297. riot_siren said:

    I say CRAN, but I'm from Western New York (Rochester/Buffalo) and we extend our vowels until they sound like nasal, abstract sounds that stand apart from the word they belong to. A third of the state talks that way. Don't hate the player, hate the game. ;-)

    05.16.06 - 04:59 AM
  • 298. thejoyof said:

    I'm with Jon - cray-on. But I have to say your version fascinates me....

    05.16.06 - 05:04 AM
  • 299. Hali said:

    I'm one of the mentioned Yankees who says "cran". I've never heard it pronounced "crown"...

    And Public Enemy says "cray-on" in the song "Crayola", so I think "cran" or "cray-on" is what's right...

    and that's coming from another English major...:)

    05.16.06 - 05:04 AM
  • 300. Mack'sMom said:

    I'm sitting at my desk saying these words out loud! People have got to think I'm nuts!

    Sorry H. but I have to go with Jon here too...Cray-on. BUT...I think my Minnesoooota accent also gets in the way and I hear CRAY-ON in my head, but say CRAN.

    05.16.06 - 05:08 AM
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