Utah or Bust
So we're packing up and getting ready to go, and Jon is leaning over the luggage trying to rearrange all of our tall clothing. And my five year old niece is just standing there behind Jon taking everything in and looking a tad confused when she looks at me, looks back at Jon hunched over the mound of clothing, looks back at me and wonders aloud, "Joe Boxer?"
Ealier in the day she pointed out that her dog, Pepper, was "inspecting the bottom system" of our dog Chuck, so I asked her "inspecting the bottom system?" And instead of offering one of her usual logical explanations (like the time she was certain Jesus Christ was walking the earth in the form of Barry Gibb), she just repeated the expression, "exploring the bottom system," about 25 times while twirling around in oblong circles like a crazed Aryan oompa loompa. My brother threatened that if she said it again, "exploring the bottom system," he'd explore a spanking solution. She immediately stopped spinning, looked straight at my brother and said in the most matter-of-fact legal closing argument kind of way, "exploring the bot...um I mean solar system." Then she skipped off to chew gum and put stickers on her little sister's forehead.
We leave here in the morning, bright and early and achingly cold, and should arrive in Zion a few hours after dark, supposing we experience no run-ins between the Idaho State Police and our mobile, roving liquor cabinet. I'm experiencing an overwhelming mixture of emotions, including an extraordinary sadness at leaving such a wonderful community. I really like Seattle -- the coffee everywhere, the indigenous green scenery, the shopping malls erected with materials and designs that mimic lumber warehouses -- despite the fact that everyone here actually drives the speed limit, and that there is an inordinate number of people who wear matching brown belts and little brown shoes.
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dennis said:
Matching shoes and belts? Not natural. I'm a bad man for thinking it, but I wonder what my girlfriend would do if I asked to "inspect the bottom system"...?
12.01.02 - 06:25 PM / 1LandingInTheSummer said:
Yeah, uh, be careful with the mobile liquor cabinet. As a friend's father once pointed out - "Just when I learned to drive drunk, they went and made it illegal."
12.01.02 - 06:36 PM / 2Kris said:
Just think what you'll find in Utah:
People wearing secret funny underwear.
The Wasatch Mountains, which make any others look like poseurs to me.
Achingly beautiful skies (except for inversion days, er weeks, errr months).
CleanFlicks ... which will allow you to see everything good from Hollywood but "without the sex, nudity, profanity or extreme violence."
Tens of thousands of RMs (returned missionaries), primarily at BYU, all on a new mission: To marry and reproduce.
Tens of thousands of fluffy-haired young women attending BYU trying to snag one of those RMs so they can get their MRS degree.
Dick Nourse and his latest half-his-age co-anchor.
Marky Snowbank and his son, Kevin, who competes on the other channel.
Liquor laws relaxed since the last time you lived there, to wit: Mixed drinks and wine may be ordered with food in most restaurants from noon to 1 a.m., and beer may be ordered from 10 a.m. to 1 a.m. Patrons may be served at their tables or in waiting areas. Drink menus and wine lists are provided only upon request, so you must ask your server for such a list. Likewise, servers are prohibited by law to ask patrons if they would like an alcoholic beverage; the request must be made by the patron.
The Kiss: While Rodin's sculpture was banned from public display at BYU in 1997, the newly remodeled Museum of Fine Arts on the U of U campus has given it a place. As one journalist noted: "If someone's morals must be corrupted, better those heathens on the hill than the sensitive souls at God's University.
The Salt Lake Weekly which should become your primary alternate weekly as soon as possible.
Enjoy Zion!
12.01.02 - 06:41 PM / 3couloir said:
for those of us just tuning in lol.... they're FROM UTAH!!! i think they'll know what they'll find there.
12.01.02 - 07:25 PM / 4dennis said:
I require further information on "secret funny underwear"...
12.01.02 - 07:38 PM / 5Em said:
I love how clever little kids are. I love little kids in general. But your niece sounds like a real character.
12.01.02 - 08:08 PM / 6megchem said:
OK! I don't like the spanking reference (barbaric...idiotic....get a grip). My son had issues with a bulldog's ass cuz its hole was black...interestingly enough he couldn't get over it until he was five. A lot of staring ensued.....
12.01.02 - 09:11 PM / 7megchem said:
just a side note....isn't dooce from the south...yeah she went to school in utah, but really she's from the south...jon...he's a mystery.... at least to me(ok searched his site...for um, well, 1 min, nothing)
12.01.02 - 09:17 PM / 8Xanthan said:
Oh, the secret underware! Oh, please reveal the mysteries of this Mormon mystery for us, Dooce. I've wanted to know why the Mormons have special underware ever since I went to Primary at my best friend's ward when I grew up (they didn't like me much: I knew more bible stories than the Mormon kids and I was making 'em look bad, or so my Mom sez).
12.01.02 - 09:29 PM / 9dooce said:
a few notes:
my brother has never once raised his hand against his children. he was joking. it was a joke.
jon is from utah, i am from tennessee, we both lived in utah for a very long time, were both members of that mormon church and know exactly what to expect when we get there.
the secret funny underwear is sacred heavenly underwear that isn't very sexy.
12.01.02 - 09:36 PM / 10Ex-liontamer said:
At least you'll be able to get drunk when you complain, you sexy heathen, you.
12.02.02 - 02:50 AM / 11Kate said:
Bah, there is a difference between spanking and assault.
12.02.02 - 05:50 AM / 12Cindi said:
Welcome to Utah Dooce!
12.02.02 - 06:04 AM / 13Paul Gutman said:
I'm stuck on Kris' description of an anchor old enough to have an anchorman son but is still named "Marky". Didn't Wahlberg even give that up?
12.02.02 - 06:08 AM / 14Stephanie from Seattle said:
I am so glad you enjoyed Seattle! It's nice to hear other people say nice things about the city where you grew up.
As to all the people out there wondering about secret underwear: I grew up Mormon, but am no longer, so I can spill the beans about the undies. Basically, after you visit the Mormon Temple, you wear special white undergarments. For women (I haven't seen the men's), they look similar to a tshirt with cap sleeves, and a pair of fitted shorts that extend to the top of the knees. You would wear your normal underwear, such as a bra, on top of these garments. They are supposed symbolize purity, and remind you of the promises you made to God while in the temple. In addition, they supposedly help protect you from evil. In the Mormon community, lots of stories are told about how Suzy Mormon was in a car accident and how she received injuries to every part of her body except where her garments covered, or how John Mormon was chased by a bear and bitten on the leg, but the garment prevented the bite from piercing the skin. The garments also remind you of your modesty. You cannot wear clothing that would show the garments - which means no tank tops or short shorts. You can read the official explaination of these underwear
12.02.02 - 06:55 AM / 15Glen said:
No, there's a difference between a "pop", where I smack your hand because you keep reaching for the stove, and a "spanking" where I take you to the couch, put you over my knee, and whack your bottom (with our without belt) numerous times until you are bawling. The latter is assault and has no business being part of the parenting repertoire.
12.02.02 - 06:57 AM / 16Stephanie from Seattle said:
Gah! What happened! I apologize for the long, one paragraph thought, as well as the link not showing up. Apparently I don't know how this comment thingie works. This is the link: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/emmain.asp?number=88
12.02.02 - 06:57 AM / 17PJ said:
Thanks for the info on the underwear, Steph. I had no idea there was such a thing. Does one of the Mormon persuasion have to wear this all the time? Sister Mary Ruth, my 6th grade teacher, is looking postively risque in comparison!
12.02.02 - 07:23 AM / 18Naaman said:
Did I miss something? Is there anything wrong with matching one's belt with one's shoes? Particularly brown? Maybe I've been living in SF too long...
12.02.02 - 07:39 AM / 19kane said:
Nice to see that your niece has signs of the dooce gene. There is hope for the future afterall. =)
12.02.02 - 07:42 AM / 20Dave Thomas said:
From a garment-sportiní Mormon: The idea is that you wear it all the time, except when a specific activity such as swimming or balling or yak grooming, makes it unreasonable. Also, I offer the following as supplement to Steph's info-rich link: (1) While there are established guidelines for garment wearing, it's ultimately left up to the individual (as "an outward expression of an inward covenant") to determine how rigorously one will adhere. Which means there are no snap skivvy inspections or nothing. (2) The list sanctioned garment-free pursuits includes loviní and touchiní, as well as squeeziní--which, considering the garmentís widely-acknowledged lack of ha cha cha, is nice. (3) I don't know about the protection-from-physical-harm business. Mormon culture is replete with "faith-promoting" urban legend-type malarkey, which this type of thing tends to be. I wear garments and I still suffer the occasional boo-boo on my thighs and upper body. Maybe I should use more starch... (4) Finally, if most Mormons seem uncomfortable with speaking about the garment in detail, it's because it's a highly-symbolic (and sacred) practice which many Mormons themselves don't feel they fully understand, and also because, well hell, it's their underwear.
12.02.02 - 07:56 AM / 21Stephanie in Seattle said:
Dave, you crack me up. :) Maybe you should use more starch, lol. Great additional info!
12.02.02 - 08:07 AM / 22SnarkyPup said:
You know, Utah has a porn czar. This could go either way, of course, but unfortunately (and perhaps unsurprisingly) it goes the unfun way.
12.02.02 - 08:50 AM / 23Funtime Ben said:
I was not aware of any religion using undergarments to promote faith, but I love the concept. I know I sometimes find undergarments do inspire prayer... especially on the right Bottom System.
12.02.02 - 09:42 AM / 24jacksongrey said:
brown shoes are overrated, just as brown belts are. You think it's all neo-wookie wonderland, but then you realise it's just pompous nouveu riche trying to dress down in some sort of apology because they drive a $50,000 volvo.
and the wasatch mountains? heh-- i used to think they were cool, but now i live in the alps-- that esplains all the laughing germans i used to meet in park city.
12.02.02 - 09:58 AM / 25ericalynn said:
I lived in Utah for about eight months and sadly, I never got anyone to strip down to their garments :) I couldn't corrupt any Mormons so I took my naughty self back to New York.
12.02.02 - 10:01 AM / 26rosebaby said:
spank me on my bottom system baby! oh, ok. all that talk about mormon underwear positively makes me want to react. hearing that described is really truly like an army of thousands doing nails on the chalkboard all at one time. i don't know why. certain religious affiliations raise my blood pressure more than others. heather, i'm sure you'll spice it up out there. :)
12.02.02 - 10:41 AM / 27Dave Thomas said:
Sorry, rosebaby. I only shared because Some folks seemed curious. Didn't mean to give you a reaction. Oh, by the way, you might want to stay away from nuns. They wear their funny religious clothing on the outside.
12.02.02 - 10:50 AM / 28Funtime Ben said:
Hey, do we know for sure that nuns don't wear funny religious clothing underneath and is there a website for it?
12.02.02 - 10:58 AM / 29Totah DinÈ said:
Utah culture cannot be truly appreciated unless you have lived there. Being a former Provo resident I can say that it consists of three basic types: Mormons, Jack Mormons and Mormon haters. All three are the main industries of Utah. You can actually make a living off of hating Mormons in Utah.
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