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Why any woman who intends to vote for McCain should reconsider

Two of my favorite bloggers in the past couple of days have explained in succinct detail why we (women in particular) should be sickened by John McCain. I implore you to take the time to read these, they’re not just a bunch of liberal propaganda or pro-choice cheerleading. These are stories of people’s lives.

From Alexa at Flotsam:

McCain states that he would deal with the issue of abortion with “courage and compassion.” I quote: “the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby.” As if terminating my pregnancy would be the easy way out, the way not requiring his precious “courage.” As if dictating my medical care based upon his religious beliefs is compassionate. And I find it interesting to note that his “compassion” for this newborn does not extend to guaranteeing it health insurance.

And Julie from a little pregnant:

He means us when he holds up his hands and says with that single scornful gesture that we don’t matter. That we are a figment of the “pro-abortion movement’s” imagination. That — what, we’re making this whole “staying pregnant might kill me” thing up?

… even if you’re implacably, unconditionally opposed to abortion, a matter on which reasonable people disagree, I don’t see any way a thinking person can look at those air quotes and see anything but pandering, contempt, and a dangerous willful ignorance.

  • Jessica

    My only question to everyone here is how do you justify killing someone. In my opinion a baby is a person the SECOND that conception occurs, the SECOND. Things happen and babies die, things happen and mothers die. It is sad either way. But Before I had my children I told my husband that if anything was to happen to me that they were to save my baby, I would lay down my own life for my children and I can’t imagine a mother that wouldn’t.

  • Anon@83: I believe Obama himself noted that nobody is really pro-abortion per se–as abortion is a not-fun, invasive medical procedure. But what pro-choicers are in favour of is access to birth control, unbiased information, and medical options for women that will hopefully prevent the need for abortion in most cases. But every woman should retain the right to make a decision about her body–being pregnant can be a huge bodily change, at best, and a life-threatening situation, at worst–and she should be able to decide for herself. Every time I hear people refer to abortion as a convenience, it makes me see red. There is nothing “convenient” about a costly surgery (although thanks to PP, semi-affordable compared to other surgeries) which you will spend a week or two recovering from. Nobody waves a magic wand and *poof* you aren’t pregnant anymore. It’s a medical choice.

    Also, I’d like to note that while McCain and Palin talk about equal pay for women, McCain couldn’t be bothered to vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, but said he would have opposed it anyway, since he said it opened up the possibility for frivolous lawsuits. Basically when McCain talks women’s rights, he’s insincere. He’s used the word “frivolous” to refer to both abortion and equal pay–I can’t take him seriously as a candidate that would support me.

  • comment #33: “I’m sorry, but NO where in the history of the US does it say, we DESERVE health care. Why do democrats think that everyone is entitled? It’s a judgement call… If you work hard you earn the right, it’s not just to be given to everyone.”

    No, it does not say anything about deserving health care in the written law, but we are talking about people. Maybe it’s just me, but if we are valuing life here I think it is fair to say that human beings do deserve access to affordable care. I am not sure what the solution is but when people, like your mother, are dying becasue they are denied care or cannot afford life saving medication while insure companies are profiting, I think there is a call for reform.

    And the part about if you work hard you earn the right to health care is complete bullshit. Nearly 60% of uninsured adults work full time. So working hard doesn’t ensure you anything.

  • Kris

    I can’t wait for November 5th.

    Sigh.

  • RJ

    I do not “like” the idea of abortion. I am not “pro-abortion” Who is??

    I urge everyone, regardless of their opinions of abortion to read this article
    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2004/01/25/my_late_term_abortion/

    It is a story of a woman who very much loved and wanted her baby who had to make a gut-wrenching decision. A decision that ANY woman could be faced with. I am pregnant and this does scare me.

    To say that it is irresponsible to call John McCain “Scary” is totally wrong. Please read this story and see how easily your rights can be taken away. See how doctors like the one in this story are leaving the practice for fear of possible prosecution.

    I don’t like the idea of abortion, but you cannot legislate morality.

  • Right On

    When anyone reduces an election to a single issue–especially one that involves the right to fill an unborn child–it is sad.

    Your original example from Alexa of Flotsam is a perfect example. She puts words in Sen. McCain’s mouth that he DID NOT SAY. But that’s so typical of the liberal left. He did NOT say having an abortion is the easy way out (that’s Alexa’s own guilt shining through). If she wants to question what is compassionate, she should ask Obama why he voted not to have hospitals provide care for babies that survived botched abortions. Hmmm. Apparently that is the modicum of compassion the majority of posters here subscribe to.

    All of which is why it is harder and harder to justify any meaningful friendships with anyone who is a bleeding heart Liberal. Many of whom value the life of a convicted murder or child molester more than they do that of an unborn child.

    Stances such as this totally ignore the fact that the vast majority of Americans see the abortion issue in shades of gray…not black or white. Very few think no abortions should ever be allowed in any circustances. And very few think abortions should be allowed at any time for any reason even into the third trimester. Well, except for a few here who reduce everything to a up/down litmus test on abortion. Get a life.

  • Tanya

    80. uc freak said: I would like to see every pro-life person adopt an unwanted child, before they can decide they are pro-life

    Bad example, in this case. The McCains did adopt an “unwanted” child. You haven’t noticed that one of their daughters doesn’t look like the rest?

  • ErinM

    Alexa and Julie are very eloquent. I agree with them wholeheartedly. I am also VERY glad that I have already voted by absentee ballot and you can bet it wasn’t for McCain and that backwards woman Palin. I’m curious how many others out there have already voted by absentee.

  • I am very pro-choice, but I respect and understand the position of those that are pro-life AND support the government investing in children and mothers at risk financially. Life is magnificent and worthy of being saved and cherished. If you believe that and are willing to follow up, I understand.

    However, I seem to have encountered far more pro-lifers who seem to only really care while battling about the well-being of a baby in someone else’s uterus.

    Personally, I think that every woman needs to be able to make the choices best for her own life, and that especially includes protecting her own health.

    How can you be pro-life, but not pro-the life of the mother?

  • Corinna

    I love everyone saying that women should just make sure to use contraceptives and they won’t get pregnant, so abortion shouldn’t be an issue. Guess what? I was an unplanned child, courtesy of condom failure. My brother was a failure of both condoms AND birth control pills. Sometimes you find yourself in that tiny percentage, despite being careful, and having the option to terminate should always be there.

  • I am not a fan of abortion. The thing is I don’t think anyone else is either. I think that everyone’s goal is for there to be fewer abortions instead of more. The difference is how you go about reaching that goal. Do you outlaw and criminalize it or do you educate and encourage the use of contraceptives?

  • megan

    i think the term “anti-choice” should be used with more regularity. it is much more accurately descriptive of the associated sentiments than the outdated “pro-life.”

  • #33, jill – I am banging my head against my desk right now.

    #37, almostvegetarian – Right? The fact that the thought even crossed her mind terrifies me more than just about any issue, including people talking about what should or should not be going on in my uterus.

  • robin

    Heather, I am so grateful that you are writing about politics, although I know you can’t influence everyone, you can present the facts. McCain and Palin scare me, they really do. She is a complete narcissist. To be one heartbeat away from the presidency after being a mayor of a small town and governor of Alaska is beyond frightening. It’s true that Obama hasn’t been tested, but he is extremely brilliant, his leadership skills are superb and he has the best minds in the country supporting him. And he inspires young people – which is great.

    McCain’s tax plans will send this country further into the toilet. How could anyone in their right mind who is not a member of the top five percent in this country even consider voting for them?

    And abortion? That was decided forty years ago. Leave it alone. Women – do we really want the government telling us what we can and cannot do when it comes to bringing a life into this world. I have a twenty year-old daughter and raising her has been the toughest job I’ve ever done

    As a former writer of “Guiding Light” – which I guess you used to watch – I am thrilled that we women have the chance to really affect the outcome of this election and throw the Republicans out of the White House and Congress. Thanks for taking a leadership role in the discussion.

  • Anonymous

    Heather, honestly, Obama with his support of a bill that does not allow babies born alive in abortions the right to medical access scares me MUCH, MUCH more than McCain. See link below on Obama’s stances on abortion. Also, if Leta (God forbid) ends up pregnant at 15, do you think she should be allowed to have an abortion without telling you? When she’s still required to have you sign field trip permission slips, should any child be allowed to undergo an invasive surgery without notifying her parents?

    http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/viewarticle.php?selectedarticle=2008.10.14_George_Robert_Obama's%20Abortion%20Extremism_.xml

    The questions about the political stances of presidential candidates about abortion go both ways, IMHO.

  • agree to disagree….

    Abortion really isn’t a religious issue, it is a legal issue…taking a life is taking a life…murder isn’t a religious issue…I am a pretty liberal feminist…but this issue doesn’t belong in that context

  • Both Alexa and Julie wrote so, so, SO eloquently on this issue, from their own experiences which, yes, are outside the norm but also in some ways put you SO MUCH CLOSER to the issue.

    As the parent of an extremely premature child myself, I can say that having birthed a child on the “cusp of viability” (in my case, 25-and-change weeks – a bit past the true cusp, but still way, way, WAY too early) having that experience muddies your opinion on the abortion issue so, so much. There is a clinic that performs abortions not too far from our house, and there are always one or two protesters out there. I drove by there this week and, I kid you not, one of their posters could have been a picture of my child on the day she was born. It was like a punch in the gut.

    Many people come out of an experience like mine, or like Alexa’s, adamantly pro-life. (I avoid the abortion issue like the plague at March of Dimes functions, lemmetellya.) Many others, myself included, come out of it still strongly pro-choice but also very conflicted. In some places it would still have been legal to terminate my pregnancy. Was my child viable? I don’t know, I supposed it depends on how you define “viability”. Is a child who requires surfactant and mechanical ventilation to survive “viable”? What if the child is going to have zero quality of life? (I’m thinking things like Tay Sachs here.) And, as Alexa and others have addressed much more eloquently than I will ever be able to, at what point do you make the decision that the mother’s life is in too much jeopardy? And yet, my possibly-legal-to-terminate kid is now an obnoxiously precocious, charming, beautiful four year old. How do I square THAT with being pro-choice?

    It makes me almost blindingly angry to think that I once uttered the words, “I’d consider voting for John McCain.” A lot has changed in the last eight years, that’s for sure, and it’s not just about the war in Iraq.

  • CTM

    I agree that abortion is a sticky subject and that in reality, it should be someone’s choice to live with what can reasonably construed as murder.

    However, none of this makes me reconsider voting for McCain. Abortion is always a “non-issue” that is construed to be so very important. Honestly, it’s the last thing on my mind this election.

  • Um, voting for McCain is one thing. Voting for Palin–whole new ballpark, baby!

    Just sent my ballot. I’m going to be like Joe the plumber and pretend to be secretive about my vote. Also, like him, I will continue to not have a plumbing license.

    hahahahahhahh

  • Michelle – Tx

    I am a yellow dog democrat living in Tx, xCatholic, xMormon, Chritian and married – I am not a fan of bush or what has happened in the last 8 yrs. I am also a women who can not get/stay pregnant. I have tried to adopt special needs chidren (siblings) through tx child protective services and terminated the adoption (a whole other topic of discussion). The issue of abortion is much bigger then abortion. If the government can control what I as a women does w/my body – its a short jump for the govt controlling all our bodies – including our children. Keep in mind how we vote today effects us years from now and sets precendences that can be fought in the courts. Who is to say if they overturn roe v. wade that in 10 yrs they (govt) wont mandate we all give up a kidney whether we like it or not – or force people to have children and give them away. God bless us all… and god help us if mccain/palin win the election. I will be one of the hundreds/thousands heading north toward canada.

  • BigSkyMum

    Amen, Nelson.

  • Erin

    To anyone who doubts the president will have any impact on abortion policy in the U.S., let me remind you that the next president will most likely appoint one or two new justices to the U.S. Supreme Court. This could most definitely affect the outcome of an abortion case, including the possible overturning of Roe v. Wade.

  • Anonymous

    I have been reading through the comments and seeing decisions based in fear. We are all forgetting that health care reform and abortion rights have been hashed back and forth for years now. I don’t think in my lifetime that Roe v. Wade will ever be overturned. And as for the platform planks on healthcare… they are just that… planks, and don’t mean that they will come into law just by our mere votes. They still have to go before the congress… and we need to be digigent with our elected officials and letting them know how we want them to vote in our interests. The older I get, the more I see that I needed to be more diligent in my younger years. I am a republican, but I don’t vote party lines… I vote with as much education and information that I can glean from both sides. It’s been a rough few weeks for me to sleep as I seek to find information that will guide me in making an informed choice when I do vote. I am a 2 time cancer survivor and also a woman who lost her uterus because of poor military medicine while trying to conceive. I have a lot to lose with both sides… but I know that I have to stay on task with my elected officials too.

  • Government has no place in the issue of abortion- unless it is to regulate the sanitary conditions of the facilities or the necessary qualifications of the doctors. McCain is confused, dilusional, and frankly needs to bow down……Men have no concept of the emotional and physical trauma of abortion- the issue needs to be mute when it comes to presidentail debates and governmental discussions.

  • Tanya

    102. Pixelfish said: while McCain and Palin talk about equal pay for women, McCain couldn’t be bothered to vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

    Obama pays his female staff 83 cents compared to each dollar the men make. McCain pays women $1.04 to the men’s dollar. (Source)

    Which one just talks about equal pay, and which one actually pays women more?

  • Melinda

    But what about small business owners? I think YOU might be considered a small business owner with your little online empire here…or the REAL small business owners with overhead and employees and the like. Abortion and war aside, we have all learned in recent weeks that it’s the economy that makes the country run, so by voting for your liberal values alone will KILL this country when small businesses begin closing left and right due to their struggle with obama’s tax increases.

    it’s easy to become utopian in an election year and forget the REALITY of how the world works…

    Just a thought…

  • Cari O.

    Amen, Amen, Amen.

    I’ll be interested in John McCain’s opinion on abortion when he can have one.

  • michelle

    I am glad to have stumbled upon this post today. Somehow, I missed the AIR QUOTES when I watched the debate yesterday on my DVR while running around after my two kids.
    What I’d heard was McCain throwing around the term “pro- abortion” which as I’ve felt for a long time is the ignorant umbrella that pro-lifers hold over pro-choicers. No one, let me reapeat, NO ONE is pro- abortion. Those of us who believe in Choice want women to have access to safe and legal procedures. Period.

    Before this debate, I was not planning on voting for McCain. Now, after seeing his performance, I am sickened by his total disregard for women’s health and his belief that women and their doctors and families can’t make up their own minds about this issue. He and Palin DO want to put women back in the dark ages and quite frankly, I’ve gone from simply not wanting to vote for him, to being quite afraid of him. It seems obvious that in his panic over poll numbers, he is showing his true colors…

    Thanks, Heather.

  • andrea

    I for one am Pro-Choice. Would I ever get an abortion? No, probably not. But who the hell am I to tell someone else that they can’t do so? Why should someone else’s religious beliefs dictate what someone does with her body? What if the woman getting an abortion doesn’t believe in the Christian God? I almost died giving birth because I had undetected eclampsia. I started seizing in the hospital and the doctor said had I not come to the ER when I did, both my baby and I would have certainly died. I wouldn’t wish that upon my worst enemy. If early enough in the pregnancy, someone learns that it’s their life or their baby’s life, I wouldn’t judge their decision to abort. I’d probably do the same thing.

    What ever happened to separation of church and state?

  • Tanya

    122. Erin said: the next president will most likely appoint one or two new justices to the U.S. Supreme Court. This could most definitely affect the outcome of an abortion case, including the possible overturning of Roe v. Wade.

    You think a pro-life Justice is going to be appointed, with a Democrat-majority congress. You’re kidding, right?

  • Does anyone who breaks out the “Would you want your child to get an abortion without telling you?” argument think that holds water?

    If you don’t want your pregnant daughter getting an abortion without telling you, don’t treat women who get abortions like they did some thing wrong, and maybe your daughter would trust you if she got into that situation. Then you can discuss ALL the options together and let her make her decision knowing that she’s had access to as much information as you can give her.

    But what the people who pose that question really mean is “Would you want your daughter to get an abortion?” Well, no, nobody should have to make that decision….but sometimes we do have to make that decision. And for those people, they would make that decision for their daughter.

    For those people I want to know, “Would you force your daughter to stay pregnant even though she doesn’t want to be? Would you force your daughter to stay pregnant even though she is sick and terrified and oh, incidentally, having all kinds of social pressure because our society teaches us that girls who get pregnant need to be punished for their actions?”

    If your answer is “If I knew my daughter was pregnant, I would prevent her from getting an abortion if I could,” there is no wonder that your daughters would fear telling you.

    Also, to paraphrase somebody else (I can recall who) just because you are somebody’s parent doesn’t give you the right to force your child to bear your grandchild.

  • alikatze

    Hey, Dooce, I realize that certain Republican options aren’t so hot this year, but, erm, I don’t find Mr. Obama to be so hot, either. Honestly? The man’s too new and has no “network” in Washington to shore him up; he’s going to have to rob Peter to pay Paul just to get his nearest and dearest pet projects through Congress – even a Democratic one. As with Clinton, the GOP will dog Obama his entire presidency — to appease them (because Barack is an appeaser, not a stand-your-ground type), he will easily give in and, like the current crop of Democrats in Congress, send important issues down the tubes. I don’t have much faith in Mr. Obama to keep the GOP hands off things like Roe v. Wade.

    Thankfully, I live in Illinois (Chicago, to be exact), my vote is utterly useless thanks to the Obamabots here — this means I can vote for exactly the party I want (no Al Gore or John Kerry because “the party needs me to” crap this time!). I will be voting Green all the way. If I’m feeling even more emboldened, I will write in Hillary Clinton. Yes, I’m a Hillary fan — she, at least, has balls (or, should I say ovaries?…)

  • katie

    a few quick things:

    partial birth abortion isn’t even a medical term. it’s a political one.

    and patrick, birth control fails. shit happens. get over it.

    jessica – if you developed pre-eclampsia at 20 weeks that would kill you AND your baby, you’d rather you BOTH die? i’m sorry, but that’s insane.

  • I don’t understand. Is everyone seriously THAT retarded??? I don’t think one person who commented so far actually a.) READ the blog entries that were posted or b.) COMPREHENDED what the discussion is actually about. America seriously lacks comprehension. So much so that it is fucking scary as shit. If you can’t read an article and even grasp a minute concept from the piece, then are you REALLY an educated person? I don’t care who you are, what you do, what kind of education and training you have. You are dumb as fuck if you seriously think that this whole conversation is about abortion. DUMB. AS. FUCK.

    This isn’t about abortion. It isn’t about pro-life or pro-choice. It isn’t about anti-abortion or anti-choice. It’s about McCain’s idiotic representation of a WOMAN. His IDEAS of a WOMAN. And what he thinks about the well-being of a woman.
    Using the oh-so-popular “air quotes” to classify the HEALTH OF A WOMAN. So to say that the health of a woman is something to be rationalized. The well-being of a woman is something that should fall within certain boundaries. The LIFE of a WOMAN is something that needs to have rigid definition and should NOT be stretched to consider all situations.
    Are you a woman? Do you KNOW any women? Even just one woman, who you might remotely care about and might be willing to save her life? If so, THAT is why you should not vote for McCain. Not because he’s going to make abortions illegal (it ain’t gonna happen, it’s just not). Not because he’s pro-life (there’s nothing wrong with being pro-life). But because, as a leader of this ENTIRE COUNTRY, he thinks that the HEALTH OF A WOMAN is something secondary.

    If after all of this, you’re still going to vote for McCain, my heart weeps for you and any women in your life. I truly, deeply, feel very VERY sorry for you.

  • Katie

    McCain never had my vote, but if he did, he would’ve surely lost it last night when he uttered the words; Pro-abortion. A man running for the President of this country should surely know the difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion. NO ONE is ever FOR abortion. EVER! It’s a heart-wrenching decision that should be left up to the woman and her partner/family. Government should never, ever be involved.

  • leftofemma

    I think that better access to contraceptives and education would help reduce the number of abortions in the country, but McCain would never go for that. Nor would his party.

    While I was bothered by the air quotes, I was also frustrated by the way he framed the issue. Obama talked about a woman talking to her family, physician, and those close to her to make an informed decision. McCain talked about some young woman who makes up some reason, presumably on a whim because that’s how he thinks young women make decisions, to terminate a pregnancy.

    What McCain is forgetting is that some women who seek abortions are older, married women who already have children.

    The GOP regularly treats women as irrational, child-like beings who can’t make decisions for themselves. It’s insulting.

  • Anonymous

    Regarding #19 Ann’s statement:

    “When McCain gives birth through his penis, I will then be willing to listen to him about legislating MY UTERUS.”

    Ann ~ it is not about your uterus, it is about the LIFE growing inside of it.

  • RJ

    Right On-You are WRONG! Obama does support care of infants in failed abortions. If you watched the debate, he explained that he didn’t not vote because their is ALREADY a law in the books that supports care of infants in failed abortion. There was no need for another LAW. This was a manipulation of the facts by MCCain

  • April

    I am pro-life but I believe that overturning Roe v. Wade would be a disaster. I am aware that most will see that as a contradiction but it isn’t. It’s my belief that women have a responsibility to bring their child into the world and that abortion should never be used as birth control but I also strongly believe that the government should not dictate her choice especially using religion as the reasoning. I’m a fairly conservative Christian woman that will be voting for Obama because I don’t believe that religious beliefs should affect our laws. I also think that anyone who is basing their vote on a single issue when our country is in ruins because of the policies of the last 8 years is dangerously ignorant.

    For those of you telling Heather to stop blogging politics please go look yourself in the mirror and repeat after me: The world does not revolve around me.

    This is her blog, her voice, her expression and she can say whatever she wants and if you enjoy it, then you can read it and if you don’t then you have a choice to leave the page and yes, I’d be saying that even if I didn’t agree with her opinions.

    Freedom is a beautiful thing that way.

  • Anonymous

    Cari O–#127…So you only care about Palin’s view? She is the only candidate of the 4 that can have an abortion. Good to know.

  • Elisha

    I will absolutely be voting for John McCain. I am neither a republican nor a democrat, so I vote for who I think will do the best job and the person whose values and ideas I agree with. I do not like Barak Obama. I like John McCain. I like Joe Biden. I do not like Sarah Palin. I think John McCain would be doing much better in the polls if he had chosen a different running mate, but I will indeed vote for him and hope that Sarah Palin is as involved as Dick Cheney has been 😉

    Though your ranting and raving about politics bores me to death, I do still come here to see pictures of your dogs. I love them!

  • Katie

    I love reading your blog Heather, and I will continue to read and enjoy it, but I definitely disagree on this issue.

    I got pregnant when I was 20 and chose not to abort my daughter, even though her birth would change my life irrevocably. I didn’t have the money at the time to pay out of pocket my healthcare, so I went on medicaid. I stayed on medicaid for approximately two years, until I had a job and then did what was intended – I took myself, and my daughter…off medicaid. Actually, it was harder to get OFF medicaid than get on.

    So, yes, “a compassionate civil society” met mine and my daughters needs, and then when I was self-sufficent, I met those needs myself.

    Republicans do not believe that ALL welfare should be abandoned. What we DO believe in is individual responsibility and a “hand up” when needed.

    For myself, I’m voting for Mickey Mouse.

  • Briana

    US politics are crazy. I’m in Canada and we’ve unfortunately gained another minority government with the Conservative party (what a waste of tax dollars – calling an early election to get practically the same results as before!). I had an argument with my mother over the phone about how I did not vote for the Conservatives, who do not support anything in my young, student life right now. I don’t support any particular party – I think the most important thing to do is always look at the platforms and vote for what supports what you believe the best.

    PS – At least your controversies are exciting; do you know how boring it is to hear about how the prime minister is now wearing sweater vests to appeal to families? Blech!

  • Sterling

    A legal expert I know has assured me that the idea of Roe v. Wade being overturned is preposterous, given the fact that our legal system relies on precedent. The idea generates lots of emotion, but it’s a moot point. No voter needs to fear that.

    That said, I don’t subscribe to the “abortion is OK no matter what” stance. Because in many instances there is NO DOUBT that what we are doing is killing babies. I’m not talking about cases where the mother’s health is in danger. In such cases clearly a choice must be made, and it is a painful, difficult process for the mother involved. I’m talking about something else. In many states late-term, partial-birth abortions are legal. These kids – and they are kids – are the same congenital age I was when I was born two months prematurely, weighing only 3 pounds. Should another “fetus,” at the same age and state of development that I was when I was born, be denied a chance to live? It isn’t just about “legislating my own womb.” The issue is much murkier than that. Apparently Obama believes this, too.

    It’s a bit two-faced of us, as a society, to declare that these aren’t children we’re killing, when, should a pregnant woman be murdered, we charge the killer with TWO counts of murder, not one. Is a fetus a child only if the mother decides to keep it?

    Women today have many choices. Some would say the “right to choose” comes at the time of having sex: whether to have sex, whether to have it responsibly, and what form of birth control one prefers. As a society, if we emphasized those choices and did a better job of educating our young women and men about them, there might be less need for abortions, which, while necessary in some circumstances, are being increasingly used as a form of birth control.

  • Hi.

    Funny that the stupidest people usually leave their comments anonymously.

    The “I don’t need your political views, just your photos of your dogs”-comments seem to be posted by people who just don’t have a clue to what you and Jon essentially are about.

    I think I get a much fuller perspective of you from taking in all things and have them draw a much more detailed picture of you and your family. Old weird-ass-crazy-stuff mormon teenage diary included. It sets things in perspective, and tells a story of a human being who has done an uncanny good job of evolving, growing into a critical, humorous, loving person.

    From an international point of view, I cannot for the life of me comprehend that Republicans don’t get how much damage they have done (largely through GWB in person) over the last 8 years, to destroy the mental image of USA as “the good guys”. The scary thing is that USA has such a huge impact on the rest of the world that it really means the world -litterally- to us how you vote.

    Not just from a discussional perspective, but from a point of worrying about when WWIII will be kickstarted by some gun toading “either you’re with us or against us” black/white world-thinking republican moron, voted into office, either by religious rightwinged rednecks or merely through the system of electoral college, which -surprise, surprise- IS NOT DEMOCRATIC. I am not sure how many americans know this. This fact also makes it even more ironic to listen to rightwinged Americans rave about how USA can tech democracy. You can’t until you are truly living in a democracy yourselves.

    Don’t be afraid of a President who is smarter than you. THAT IS A GOOD THING! Vote Obama.

    (And for those of you thinking “Mind your own business”: Think about how you would feel if something I voted had a genuine impact on your life)

  • I couldn’t agree with those two women more.

    John McCain disgusts me with his ivory tower perspectives on the state of our country and what needs to be done to fix its problems, and I find his condescending smirks and remarks during every single debate infuriating enough to want to reach through my t.v. screen and slap him. His attitudes on abortion and his attacks on Obama for his votes on late-term abortion matters sent me into a fury. He’s a raging idiot!

    McCain has NO CLUE what the average person in America is going through right now. He has NO CLUE what it’s like to have ANY of his own rights taken away. And he has NO CLUE how to bring about the CHANGE that is desperately needed in this country. The idea of him in the Oval Office scares the living daylights out of me.

    Praying for a HUGE Obama win on election night,
    Super Woman in WI

  • Anonymous

    Pro-choice = pro-abortion = pro killing babies. Deal with it

  • SarahJ

    Absolutely agree with the post and with you posting it.

    I don’t really understand why people get up in arms when you post something with regards to your political views.. this is a BLOG. Regardless of what readers think, blogs are about the individual views of the blogger. If they disagree they can either: a) not read it, b) read it and choose to learn something about people with differing views, or b) write their own blog.

  • One more reason I’m not voting for McCain. I already knew his stance on abortion was the opposite of mine, but reading both of those snippets from other blogs made me shudder. Like another commenter wrote, he’s seemingly a good enough MAN, but not the man I’d like to see as our president.
    Jules

  • First off, I’m NOT voting for McCain because I DO support traditional family values – like not having affairs and leaving your wife and kids for a hot young heiress, and having a parent home to raise and supervise the kids. Doing what is best for the FAMILY.

    However, I do not agree that abortion is a right. It should always be an option when a woman’s life is at risk or if her right to choose was denied at conception, but I will never understand why a woman can or should be able to choose to end a life she chose to start. The choosing time comes before the baby is made – this is NOT the 50’s; women and men have unlimited access to contraception. We treat life and sex much too frivolously.

    Having watched the adoption process take place, I think every child is entitled to have a mom and dad who WANT to be a mom and dad and going through the pain and inconvenience of child birth beats the pants off ending a perfect potential person. Don’t be a mom if you’re not ready, but aborting for reasons of inconvenience or embarrassment are not sufficient.

    Sincerely,

    a blue dot in a red state.

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Hi. I’m Heather B. Armstrong, and this used to be called mommy blogging. But then they started calling it Influencer Marketing: hashtag ad, hashtag sponsored, hashtag you know you want me to slap your product on my kid and exploit her for millions and millions of dollars. That’s how this shit works. Now? Well… sit back, buckle up, and enjoy the ride.

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