This here bringer of the pooper to the fun party

Oh noes! Here her goes again!

So I’m going to go ahead and risk being beheaded by opening up this wound again, but I want to post this video and encourage you to watch it for a couple of reasons (you’ll have to sit through a 15 second commercial, I have no control over that, but it’s important enough to endure that inconvenience):

First, this one minute and twenty-eight second video perfectly sums up why the selection of Sarah Palin as a vice presidential candidate scares the holy living shit out of me. To me, this is clearly an example of why they are not letting her talk to the press more because it appears as if she has no idea what she’s talking about.

Two, I am genuinely interested in hearing from fans of Palin. I want to know why you think she’s qualified, and why you’d vote for a man who would choose to run with someone like this.

No name calling, no hurling of insults. I’d just really like to hear your side.

  • sara

    No. 63… my only request is that we don’t fight ignorance with more ignorance.

    I’m pretty sure every soldier who has been hit by a roadside bomb and has lost limbs is insulted by your characterization of what makes a “good soldier.” I’m not telling you to vote for him because he had the courage to defend your right to be a smart ass. I’m just asking you to respect the fact that he did.

  • As a Palin/McCain non fan, here’s my theory.

    Republicans are feeling battered. GWB didn’t turn out the way they thought he would. Despite the chest thumping, there are still boys getting killed every day in Iraq and Afghanistan. America has zero goodwill abroad today – this in spite of the fact that after 9/11, the entire world loved America. That goodwill was squandered by this administration. Add to that the financial crises and the fact that the government is going against every right-wing grain in bailing out private business, and you have a pretty down in the dumps bunch in the GOP.

    So McCain, the maverick, comes along and he is the only candidate who can say with any veneer of legitimacy that he’s different than Bush. He is indeed, a maverick. But he’s still a Republican, and the left will not forget that. And he doesn’t appeal to the broad GOP base.

    Enter Sarah Palin, someone from the middle of nowhere, someone who’s not afraid to stand up and utter crowd-pleasing phrases like “lipstick on a pitbull”, and the GOP thinks, hallelujiah. She’s just like us. She’s Christian and Conservative, which is what I want, but she’s also not from the DC old guard. She hasn’t been corrupted by years of the Beltway. She’s a fresh hope, she’s new, and she’s saying all the right things when she’s allowed to speak.

    After this week, though? After yet another interview where Palin scrambles for answers because she feels she has to say *something*, rather than the right answer which would be “I don’t know but I will find out”, after McCain’s hijinks around the bailout and the debate, after all of this reactionary stuff? I suspect even the GOP is starting to wonder. And they will simply just not vote, and go make preparations to hide under the blankets for the next four years.

  • That’s a good question. I don’t know the answer except to say that it seems both she and obama don’t have a lot of experience where it matters. I wish there was a different set of candidates from which to choose, quite honestly.

  • Anonymous

    Men like her because she’s hot and conservative women like her because she’s “pro-life”. And moms like her because she’s a mom. I was unfortunate enough to attend a Republican party party (long story how I ended up there, God forbid), and it was in Arizona, and most of the women there were voting for the McCain ticket not because of McCain, but because of “Sarah”. She’s “such a breath of fresh air” and represents “our values”.
    Personally, I think most conservatives are not really conservative in their everyday life but carry around a bunch of guilt and think by voting conservative they somehow become conservative. It’s a crazy ideal.
    OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!!!!

  • I’m from The Netherlands, so I’m not exactly eligible to vote, but I must say that both candidates – Obama AND McCain – are heaps of leaps forward compared to Bush. I mean, like, OMGPWNIES!!! ahead. I favour the Democrats, but at least McCain isn’t a total brainless moron, so I could live with him being president.

    That being said – Palin scares the living daylights out of me. I believe in a strong separation between church and state, and Palin represents everything that I do NOT believe in in that regard. America was instructed by God to invade Iraq? God promoting war? If I were religious, I’d find that offensive.

    And yes, what if McCain dies? Palin in office? She doesn’t appear to have much of a brain, and having such a religious lunatic with access to The Red Button (nuclear weapons) seems like a ticket to an annoying case of LOTS OF DEAD PEOPLE.

    But I do reiterate – she is physically attractive. Which, coincidentally, might explain people defending her.

  • Jean

    I’m a lifelong Democrat and will vote for Obama. That said, my in-laws personify the religious right. My mother-in-law loves the choice of Palin as VP; as she said to my husband recently, “I just like her.” That means that Palin is someone my mother-in-law would like to have over to the house for dinner. Additionally, Palin’s views on abortion are in line with my mother-in-law’s. My mother-in-law represents a big chunk of America. She doesn’t care about foreign policy, has never had enough money to feel like she’s hurt one way or another by an economic crisis, and knows no one who is participating in the war in Iraq. Consequently, what matters to her is having a candidate whose morals seem to line up with her own. Palin’s do. Anything beyond that is completely irrelevant to her.

  • Hence the new comment around our house every time she and/or McCain or one of their campaign lackeys speaks:
    “That is CRAZY! It’s BEYOND THE PALIN.”

  • Sarah Palin is the vice-presidential equivalent of the “Stars! They’re Just Like Us!” section in US Weekly. While it may be comforting and entertaining to know that Jessica Alba buys the same brand of tampons as me, I am perfectly happy to have a vice-president and a president whose intellectual ability are ten times above mine, especially when it comes to things like, oh I don’t know, silly stuff like foreign policy or energy policy or where fossils come from.

  • melissa

    this election is the lesser of two very lame choices.
    By the way Obama has fumbled his way through many an interview.

    You are right though her in-experience is frightening.
    What you need to realize though is that to many of us, so is Obama’s.

    His in-experience combined with his socialist leanings makes him the weaker canidite in my vote.

    Some like, love, crave socialism and it’s ideals.

    Call me old school but I happen to hold dearly what has set us apart from other countries…our freedom. We thrive as a nation because of it.

    Yes, we are FAR from perfect but we have something unique and wonderful that no other country has achieved. As we lose sight of that we inch closer and closer to becoming a socialist country.

    Once that happens I may have to move to Europe where at least the art is better.

    Until then VIVA THE CONSTITUTION! Call me crazy but I’m writing in Ron Paul!

    ps

    I love how each side feels so strongly that the country is doomed if one or the other is elected!
    Our media has succeeded at creating this pointless artificial warfare where we bash one another over the head and fail to actually cover any ground with one another.

    It’s very profitable for them to have us all hating on one another.

    Also I like the Dooce better when it spares us the thinly veiled endorsements via photos of dog with husband in obama shirt.

    I can’t wait for the election to be over already so I can get a break from my favorite blogs trying to take on politics.

    ~melissa

  • Pip

    It scares me that people would vote for them because Governor Palin is” just like you and me”. First of all, I am not qualified to run this country. Let there be no mistake, although I have significantly more education, was a soccer mom for longer, ran the PTA for longer, was involved in local politics for longer, and have never had any ethics investigations against me – I am not qualified to run this country! This woman repeatedly misstates her accomplishments – she went to five institutions before getting a bachelor’s degree! She has active ethics investigations going on…
    Where are the Republican women politicians?! Although, I am a dyed-in- the- wool liberal, I believe that there are plenty of well-spoken, well-educated and highly experienced Republican women potentially qualified for this position. Why are they not speaking up? Where is Christine Todd Whitman? If we, as women, want to be represented, then put forth a brilliant candidate.
    Professional values? Does it only take a low-grade bachelor’s degree and a couple of years experience to run a country? Complexities of economics, science, cultural history demand more – don’t they?
    Moral values? Wouldn’t you expect to have no ethics conflicts if you wanted to be in charge of a prominent nation? Wouldn’t you expect to have spiritual beliefs that are distinctly personal, not professional? We don’t all agree with each other’s spiritual beliefs in this country. Isn’t that the reason this country was founded?
    I hope that this candidate is not a gender representation. What a mistake to have such an under-qualified and illiterate person represent the women of this country.
    Nope, this is representation of the desperate nature of the Republican Party.
    She is not “just like us”.
    And yes, I have a mini Aussie puppy.

  • Liat

    I tried to watch it, but I felt really lightheaded and needed to stop looking at her face in order to feel better. Her presence on television makes me physically ill.

    I can’t believe this has happened.

  • I have heard about this interview, but hadn’t seen it until now. And I couldn’t watch the whole thing. It was way too painful. No wonder McCain wanted to “suspend the campaign” rather than put her on stage with Letterman.

  • 99: I thought Heather was referencing herself, not Palin. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

  • Krista

    If Palin wins and all the smart people move to Canada… well, then what?

  • I’m horrified as well, and very pained every time I hear this woman open her mouth.

    Although, as a former Alaskan myself, I *do* have to point out that it’s very dangerous there. One must constantly be on the watch for Canadian poachers in the woods, Russian smugglers at sea, and for Mexicans who want to steal your weed crop. Sometimes the French were even a threat with their food! Very dangerous.

    Does anyone else feel the MIND CONTROL the media is spinning? Thank you people like Katie Couric and Barbara Walters, and other skeptical mainstreamers.

  • We need to keep this woman far, far away from the White House.

  • Danny

    I think it is sad that everyone is on here bashing her. Dooce asked for supporters to tell her why. Is there no one that reads this blog that can articulate their reasons for support. So far, no supporters. We all understand, very clearly, why we should not vote for her, but, why do others see her as a future world leader. Why do some people see her as one that inspires them to go to the polls and tell the world that this is the person that we want to represent our nation the the global community?

    Why, why, why?

  • LisaV

    Sooooo….correct me if I’m not understanding her….but if a qualification for being VP is living close to Russia, wouldn’t that make EVERY citizen of Alaska qualified to be the VP??

  • Beth

    One of two things is absolutely clear at this point: she is either (a) completely ignorant about the most basic political issues — a vacant, ill-informed, incurious know-nothing, or (b) aggressively concealing her actual beliefs about these matters because she’s petrified of deviating from the simple-minded campaign talking points she’s been fed and/or because her actual beliefs are so politically unpalatable, even when taking into account the right-wing extremism that is permitted, even rewarded, in our mainstream. I’m not really sure which is worse, but it doesn’t really matter, because with 40 days left before the election, both options are heinous.

  • FirstTimeVoter

    I’m twenty and this will be the first presidential election I get to vote in and frankly, I haven’t been impressed with any of the choices… I am a Republican but a moderate one and I was hoping and praying McCain would pick Lieberman. Suffice to say, I too am scared shitless of Sarah Palin. I don’t have children nor do I have any desire to have any, but the thought of her mandating that we teach creationism in our classrooms terrifies me. I never really thought of the Bible as a pillar of scientific thought… But the creationism thing is just the tip of the mighty iceberg of problems with Sarah Palin, like her foreign policy as documented in the video. I also find it insulting that the GOP thinks that women voters (myself included) are so shallow as to be swayed to vote for her just because of her gender and you KNOW that was the only reason she was chosen. I just hope to god McCain doesn’t kick the bucket in office (not that he has a shot in hell of winning the election anyway) because the mess of crazy that is Sarah Palin is the last thing we need in the highest office in the land… Maybe I’ll just vote for Ron Paul to take votes away from McCain/Palin. Better yet, I’ll vote for Nader just to screw Obama (what do people see in Obama? I get that he is personable but come on! I swear, he is going to become president simply because of his charisma and rhetoric. Then again, I like Reagan so don’t listen to me). God help us all!

    -Lonely Republican in California

  • when it comes time to vote it will mean voting for the lesser of two evils, just like it always does.

    frankly, i don’t trust any politicians. they all eventually screw up one way or another. never fails. as my grandpa liked to say “dems get in trouble over women and republicans get in trouble over money.”

    in this case though, even if i wasn’t a dem she’d scare the living crap out of me. the country has come too far to risk the chance that mc cain will die and she’d be in charge.

  • Anonymous

    That video wouldn’t work for me, but found the link:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n

    I live in Ireland, so I don’t have a vote. However, many of my friends are actually travelling to the states to campaign against McCain and Palin. I haven’t met one person in this country who would back the republican vote. I can only assume much of the rest of the world similarly looks on in fear.

  • Anonymous

    betsy – to defend dooce, she insults everybody, she’s pretty even handed and if you read her stuff you gotta be willing to take a little flack.

  • robyn

    Does anyone notice that Katie also sounds like a total idiot in this interview and is forcefully painting Palin into a corner of explaining something obvious?

    People make comments like, “Well, I live in Texas but that doesn’t give me any foreign policy experience with Mexico.” Is it south Texas? Do you go outside? Do you read the news about the interactions between the Texas Governor and Mexico? Why would you assume that Alaska doesn’t have any issues that arise from their border, too?

    Just because you say something stupid on Dooce’s website doesn’t make it truth. There is no way that Sarah Palin has zero dealings with anything having to do with Russia when their borders are a few hundered miles apart.

    Is that the equivilent of brokering an arms truce? No. But is it the same experience as being the governor of Nebraska? Definitely not.

    The reason Sarah is talking like she’s explaning something to a three-year-old is because Katie is asking for a kindergarten geography lesson.

    I notice there’s no comments to how much Obama stutters and stammers when he’s not reading from a teleprompter pretending to be MLK.

    Heather, I like you a whole lot, but you say some very one-sided things when it comes to politics and it makes me wonder if we’re living in the same world.

    What about Biden? The man went up in flames last week. He doesn’t know that we didn’t have television in the 1920s. He doesn’t know his platform’s stance on coal. He doesn’t know who the president was during the stock market crash. Could you not just as easily type the words, “Why would anyone vote for Obama when he’d choose to run with a man like Biden?”

  • Melissa

    #113
    is a perfect example of what I mean…when someone does not agree with you they are thought to be an idiot!?!

  • It took me five tries of pausing and hitting play again to finish that clip. It was almost too painful to bear, kind of like watching two trains heading for each other on the same track.

    I’m not pro-Obama or pro-McCain (nor could I even vote if I wanted to; I’m Canadian), but at this rate, please let someone other than McCain win, because Palin is just SCARY. Srsly.

  • Diana

    Oh Heather. Don’t you know by now your funny little website is a humorous retreat for most of your fans!!!

    Keep the politics out of your site…please.

    I think of you as an intelligent and funny woman. Not so much when you post your political view. Do you really think Palin supporters will honestly put their own take/view so that you can just re-hash it again?

    Please go back to talking about hitting snooze and how fucking wonderfully irritating your family is…if I need political insight, I’ll just turn to the eighty channels that broadcast their own bias opinions.

  • #58 grudge girl: Lol. She IS a lot like Peggy Hill! I wish I had come up with that comparison myself. Funny, Peggy is my least favorite character on the show, too.

  • While I do think it is “good” to see a woman succeeding in politics and it is nice to see more women involved in this election, I find it offensive as a woman that this is the best that the Republican party could do.

    I am mostly a liberal with a few things falling into the more moderate range and the occasional right-wing leaning, but there is just too much at stake to gamble with this election.

    I am more concerned about the potential changes to the Supreme Court and that is why I am voting Barack Obama.

    While I mostly agreed with your previous post, I think that it is very commendable of you to open things up in a civil manner for debate. The only way an intelligent conversation can ever be had is if both sides are calm and agree to keep things calm. So kudos to opening things back up in a way that fosters intelligent debate, particularly after the myriad comments that cannot have been easy to read. I’ll say that I was most offended by people that supposedly support this country and want “what’s best for this country” while simultaneously telling you to write about your dog and your kid and nothing else. As if this isn’t your website to do what you wish with… it’s your site, you pay for it, they don’t have to visit it and if you want to say something, well, then… you can damn well say it.

    So thank you for saying what you mean, meaning what you say, but also having the courage to say “Well, what do you have to say?” to the other side of the debate.

  • dooce

    #99 Betsy – The title of this post was chosen to poke fun at myself and the idea that I was again going to go against what is normally written here. Many commenters on my last political post told me to shut up and go back to the kid stories, and here I am unable to resist it again, and I chose those words to represent the obvious crack in my brain for doing so.

  • Watching that made me feel the same level of awkwardness as when I watch Michael Scott from The Office try to have a staff meeting. The only difference is: Thats! Not! Real!

    My only wish is that Tim Russert would have gotten his way with her. That episode of MTP would have been one for the ages. I miss him.

  • There seems to be a lot of talk that “she’s just like us”, similar to George Bush who is also “just like us. He seems like the type of guy I could sit around watching football and drinking beer with.” I don’t know about you, but I can’t think of two people I want to be less like than the President and Vice President. They’re running the damn country and if I can sit down and just be regular people with them then I don’t want them to be in control.

  • Patrick

    So she isn’t the brilliant generalist like Obama, how refreshing. Obama is the same way except he just makes it sound better – there is no content, just words. That’s what scares me about him – and all democratic presidents in the recent past. They over promise with triumphant speeches and underdeliver.

    The last thing we need right now is more government and that is why Obama CANNOT be president.

  • Betsy

    119: but she usually doesn’t solicit.

  • melissa

    whoops! I didn’t mean to re-post my comment!

  • I love the way people tell you what to post on your blog. “I just come here for the purdy puppy pictures. Not politics!” God forbid you express your own opinion on your *gasp* OWN BLOG.

    Sarah Palin has boobs. This is why people like her, I think. Goooo boobs!

  • Alie

    OH MY GOD THE HELL!

    enough said.

  • Anonymous

    This really isn’t complicated, so let’s just tell the truth, shall we? Palin’s support only exists because she:
    1. Wants to make abortion illegal.
    2. Wants to prevent gay people from getting married.
    3. Thinks we should teach religious dogma (creationism) in taxpayer-funded schools.

    The people who support her have a worldview that goes exactly as far as those three issues and no further. Every other justification you hear for supporting Palin is a cover for one of those three things.

  • Julia

    Has anyone heard this quote?

    “IF ‘REPUBLICAN’ WAS A BRAND OF DOG FOOD, IT WOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE SHELVES BY NOW”.

    bwahhhaahhhaaa

  • LR

    Well… I agree with you, so cannot tell you why I support her. But, I can tell you why many of the religion right and even religious middle people support her… because she goes to church… this is the only litmus test she had to pass.

  • Anonymous

    While Anon #93 makes some excellent points — I have to add that there are many people who just want to see Obama fail. The Media has basically crowned him king. They have not taken the time to look at him objectively, and have acted as if this election process is merely a formality.

    And then, to be honest, there’s the fact that Obama is a black man. Which no one seems to want to address except for that fact it makes this an historic event. Racism runs deep, whether you or I or the polls want to admit it.

    I am interested to see how this turns out. And I am afraid for the health of our country under an Obama presidency — worried for the sake of our democracy. No good can come of socialism, which has been proven time and time (and time) again.

  • Heather, I have no words. After seeing this I’m back to my original impression that she was chosen strictly for shock value and to try to procure the female vote.

    This election scares me…..beyond words!

  • Athena714

    To Melissa #108:

    You stated: “Also I like the Dooce better when it spares us the thinly veiled endorsements via photos of dog with husband in obama shirt.”

    This is Heather’s blog and she can support any candidate she wants to. I don’t think she’s ever hidden the fact she’s an Obama supporter, so your “thinly veiled endorsements” line makes no sense.

  • Julie

    The New York Times reported that Palin had to get a passport (her first ever) in July 2007 in order to visit troops in Kuwait. And though it’s right next door, as she repeatedly reminds us, she’s never actually been to Russia. My fourteen-year-old has more foreign policy experience than she does. It would be funny if it weren’t so horrifying.

    I can’t get out of my head the nastiness displayed in the RNC speeches, particularly when Giuliani snarled in reference to Obama’s perceived lack of experience, “this is no time time for on the job training!” He stood there gloating with that Satan’s bagboy smile of his as the audience went wild with approval. Hello…

    Here’s a little video that illustrates beautifully:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmbaDu7cPT0

  • #93- Thank you. I, like Heather, was really interested in an intelligent explanation of what the other side thinks. That was perfect.

    I hope others follow your example, because I’m still curious.

  • Oh man. That. Was. Bad. Neither women did us any favors if you ask me. I can’t believe after all of this build up to the election that I am this disgusted, fed up, and just plain over it. I don’t want to vote for either of them but I don’t want to vote for McCain more than Obama so I guess Obama gets my vote. Nice.

  • Diggs

    First off, #53 – the bailout is not socialism. This isn’t a long term ownership of banking. Its not for the benefit of all citizens, we don’t all get an ownership piece of these banks. This is straight capitalisim, these banks are going to be underwritten by the gov’t, just like the communications, pharmecuetical and energy industries. Its a pillar of free market capitalism.

    As a 29 yr old republican male, I’m voting based on the things that affect me, mainly anything driven by economics. Taxes, gov’t spending, healthcare by way of taxation and housing. How amazingly vapid that clip makes Palin look, or how ridiculous Biden comes off when referencing one of our greatest presidents in a completely inaccurate time period – that doesn’t impact my voting at all. There’s a slim chance she’ll be running our country and God forbid, if she ever has to, she’ll be so insulated and consulted that any decision she makes will have been fed to her. Part of my vote is placing trust in McCain that his appointed aides are more than competent to “assist” her.

    So you are all looking for someone to defend Sarah Palin, but you can’t defend that video, its impossible. Just like you can’t defend Biden for effectively dating FDR in 1992(exaggerating, relax) – its pointless.

    I realize I am behind enemy lines here, but i love reading this thing daily and I dont want to piss off the apparent majority that makes up the ranks, so I’ll end this long winded post here.

  • DBN

    Bless her heart, she is such a moron.

  • Dear goddess, that has GOT to be Bush in drag.
    Her public speaking skills are nonexistent. Is she going to be debating with Biden? I think that may be one debate I will actually watch if only for humor content.

    She is an idiot. A pawn.

    God help us all if she and McCain make it to the White House.

  • I read through all the comments to see why folks support her and have only seen a few. It’s a bit disappointing because I am curious too!

    My only insight is that I have a very good friend who does like her and I’ve ask her why. Essentially she said that she likes her convictions and was impressed with her RNC speech. Later she added that she is appreciates that Palin is the only candidate who had children going to public school. Since the interviews and gaffs, I haven’t asked my friend if she feels the same way and wonder if she supports her as strongly.

    And @ #64 who Beatrice said: I’d rather wake up on fire than have that woman in office.

    I totally snorted when I read that. I tend to agree!