It’s the 1960′s all over again

Of course, it passed. What is wrong with this country?

  • arielle

    i’m almost amused that no one realized it would ban common-law marriages. a lot of people depend on that to reap their civil rewards. but they covered that up, so they could push the “gays are the devil and we must make them unequal” part of the amendment.

    sadly, it passed in michigan too. and michigan went to kerry.

  • Kate

    i am not prepared for another four years of a leader whom the world does not respect; a man whom i do not respect. i am not prepared to have my homosexual friends, who are more in love and who believe in the sanctity of marriage moreso than 50% of our nation’s heterosexual couples, denied the right to both marriage and civil unions. i am not prepared to let someone else dictate to me how i can or cannot make personal decisions: i believe in a woman’s right to choice, especially under the conditions of rape. i not prepared to have med-mal cases capped, because let me tell you: you cannot understand until it happens to you. say you want caps now; but when your mother/father/brother/sister/daughter/son/best friend is killed by a surgeon or other doctor, and your life is changed forever, then YOU remember what administration you’ve supported. i am not prepared to have our country unilaterally controlled: think about it – the presidency, the senate, the house, and soon the supreme court. whatever happened to the balance of power
    are you prepared?

    i am sick to my stomach, and i have never felt so afraid for the future of our country. if i was not a student, i would apply to move out of the country immediately. the united states is in for a long four years, and i can only hope that our president will learn how to compromise and attempt to unify the nation… because currently, we are more polarized than ever.

  • Mark

    This great country of ours has lost its way somewhere. I really wish I could place exactly where. What we stand for and what we lived for has changed from the freedoms this country was founded on back into a monarchy of sorts. It really makes me very sad to see that “Religion” is playing such a crucial role in how our country is being governed. I am all for people believing what they want but what happened to the seperation of church and state? The line seems to be fading fast. History has taught us many times that letting religion interfere with government leads to blood shed and chaos. And now two people who love each other regardless of gender have to hide in the shadows and can’t enjoy simple pleasures of life? What happend to “and the pursuit of happiness”? I really fear for my son, and all children of this once great country. What a mess we are going to leave for them.

  • Karen

    Everyone repeat after me – HILLARY 2008

  • wealhtheow

    You know, I started this as a snarky comment pretending not to miss all the things we’d lose under this administration–environmental protection, women’s reproductive rights, funding for science, marriage rights, an equitable tax burden–but it just got too long and too depressing. I can see the future, and it’s not pretty. My only consolation is that I can stand up and say “When Bush appoints his ultraconservative judges to the Supreme Court, I will stand in the street and burn an American flag” and not fear arrest.

    I’ll follow up on that, too. We burn the flag in this country when it has been dishonored. It is not hating America to say “I would rather burn this flag honorably than have it fly over a travesty of justice.”

  • Michael

    You all at least have the advantage of being far, far from the carnage.

    My office is in the Reagan Building in downtown D.C. and I had to go through two security screens just to get lunch in the food court because President Fraternity Boy was on his way over to gloat.

    I was sickened by all the 20-something bushies (male and female) strutting around with their special access badges.

    Anyone want to help me teach English in tuscany for four years? Lousy pay, great food and wine.

  • chris

    Christine #104:

    I saw that 17% number last night, too, but I thought they were showing us the percentage of votes cast by different age groups: i.e., 17% of the total votes were cast by 18-24 year olds.

  • Kate

    Michael, I’m in -

  • Camille

    Wow. I have to say that I am somewhat surprised by the tone of most of the comments today. The election is over; most of the votes have been counted. Things might not have turned out the way we wanted, but I don’t think we should be moping and whining. I am not going to say, “This country sucks,” or “I’m moving to Canada.” That’s ridiculous. This is a time to remain standing for what we believe in. People can still make a difference. I don’t want anyone’s pity or condolences. I am strong enough to continue fight the good fight and I think a lot more of us are strong enough too. Buck up, people. Let’s not fall away just yet.

    Even if (when?) Bush gets another term, make sure our voices are heard.

  • Kimberly

    No, I’m not satisfied now. For one thing, that is the passive aggressive tactic of someone too chickenshit to have their ideas and opinions subjected to close scrutiny.

    So, God decided homosexuality was bad? Please tell me chapter and verse so I can look it up. Would it be the passage wherein the godly man sends his own wife out to be raped to death rather than relinquish the visiting “angels” to the mob? Or the one where he offers his daughters instead? Because those are more about host duties than homosexuality–if the angels had been women, same thing would’ve happened. And Sodom? What verse exactly says “I am destroying this city because there are gay men here”?

    Oh and as a Canadian, I can safely say to your statement ” when the terrorists bomb you, can we be free not to defend you?” Absofuckinloutely. We do not want to be tainted with your brush in any shape or form. If your government hadn’t been making threats to our security should we not fall in line with your defense priorities, it wouldn’t even been an issue.

    It’s people like you who make it all too easy to utter the phrase, “I hate Americans” in moments of frustration like this.

    PS: To all the sane, rational members of the Blurbodoocery, I do *not* hate *you* (Although I’m deeply frightened by your Republican cohort).

  • wow

    To those worried about a draft:
    Our husbands, sons, brothers, friends, etc. are safe. Bush *will* veto any draft legislation crossing his desk, which btw was proposed by a couple of rogue Democrats (who wanted to scare people who failed to discern that they were messing with them).

  • Mike M


    Must be tough in DC. Wasn’t the popular vote close to 90% for Kerry?

  • Karen

    I woke up this morning with a real sense of foreboding – I couldn’t believe the country had collectively decided to re-elect Bush – but it seems that is exactly what has happened. I have to admit, that there was a fleeting moment in the booth that I almost voted for him too – not because I support anything he has ever done – but simply because Kerry would have been stuck with trying to clean up this un-godly mess he is making of our county, our world, our planet and in the end, would have taken the blame.

    In the Buddhist faith, suffering is a natural part of life along with the inevitability of change. Our country is changing – we must accept that; I only hope the suffering is not too prolonged.

  • popsicle


    umm…there is some seriousness to some peep comment’s about leaving, so my comment was to those people where it is more than just a passing fancy to even consider an exodus…SCRAM!

    nick, i like the amen popsicle. as a matter of fact, how bout a bizness venture? AMEN!POPSICLE! and just have the most delicious, scrumptous, delectable popsicles on earth. some that even have sugar, not the fake stuff..

  • robyn

    I’ve woken up with easier hangovers to stomach… At least they ended that same afternoon after a few Motrin.

    Happy nine months to Leta, btw!

  • jenn

    michael-where do we sign up!

  • Jamie

    I hope your poop wasnt riding on this election!

  • Eddo

    Isma and others that responded to me, I respect your comments and more than that I appreciate the mature responses that I receieved.

    It saddens me Isma to think that you don’t believe that there is a God. Perhaps I am a weaker person, but when I look into the eyes of the people that I love, when I feel scraped out and hollow inside because I have lost someone that I love, when I look at the beautiful eyes of a new born baby, when I see a sunset, I can’t help but know in my heart that something out there greater than me, greater than this world created the universe. I can’t sit back and think that just by chance that we have so much variety and diversity on this Earth. I can’t look at the sun and just be amazed that somehow it is just far enough away from the Earth that we aren’t all cooked alive.

    Why is it that we all have unique DNA? Why do we have different fingerprints? Why do we have unique voice tones? The list goes on and on, I believe it is because God made us special and unique. Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being;
    you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
    14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    your works are wonderful,
    I know that full well.
    15 My frame was not hidden from you
    when I was made in the secret place.
    When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,
    16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
    All the days ordained for me
    were written in your book
    before one of them came to be.


    To JustMe- Your argument is a good one, and in that case I believe that you should do what you feel is best. I don’t stand here and think that I have all the answers, I don’t. But I hate to see that we kill unborn children because it is an inconvenience to our perfect lives.

    Much Love.

  • patricia

    I’ve never really considered myself to be very patriotic, but I gotta say, I have never been more proud (and greatly relieved) that today to be a Canadian. So sorry for you guys. Toronto is a great city, too. We have the best Gay Pride parade in the world, I think.

  • Erin

    Kimberly – the whole ‘Canadian gov making threats to our security’, thing, What do you mean? I’m seriously, not trying to be snotty here.

  • anna

    I was (tentatively, non-commitally) talking about the gay marriage bans with a large, grimy cab driver, when he just summed it right up:

    “What the fuck do I care if a couple of fuckin’ fags wanna get married?”

    Exactly, sir, exactly.

  • Erin

    I Do seem to have a stutter.

  • patricia hannigan

    Help!!!!!!!!!!This is all wrong!

  • debutaunt


    Can we talk about poop yet people?

    - debu_snot

  • wow


    What’s wrong with having a judge who stands up for the rights of women? Even if they are preborn?

  • JustMe

    Eddo – unfortunately, once you begin to erode the rights for some, you erode them for all. If you make it illegal unless someone’s life is in danger, then you have to deal with who has the right to decide how endangered you are. Women who choose natural birth already are faced with hospitals attempting to get court orders to force caesarians. Is it not my choice whether to undergo life-threatening major abdominal surgery? It may be commonplace now, but there is always a risk of complications like reaction to anesthesia, bleeding to death, sepsis in the wounds… Should I not be able to judge the risk to my own health and safety? If my unborn child had more rights than I do, then I choose never to be in that situation. And there are those trying to take that decision away from me, too – under the current atmosphere, some pharmacists are nowing deciding it’s against their morals to fill birth control prescriptions, and in one specific case, even refused to transfer the prescription to another pharmacy. So it’s stacking up that 1) access to birth control is being limited, 2) access to abortion is being limited, and 3) women can be forced to be gutted against their will in favor of the unborn.

    This scares the living hell out of me.

  • Beth Ringsmuth

    I dunno about y’all but I am super pumped that George W. Bush probably won this election! My god, the damage we can do the world! Think of the economic ramifications, the social activists having heart attacks and aneurisms! And please don’t forget all the additional sanctity added to the half of marriages that work in out in some states. Go sanctity of straight marriage, I always say. Also, Iraq! We can continue ramming democracy down the throats of those who like to kill us! It’s excellent. Forget a change or a fresh start, let’s all go buy Highlanders and Explorers and work on a constitutional amendment so Bush can be re-elected in ’08!!

    p.s. this was my try at sarcasm. Kerry won MN! I did my best…

  • Irena


    I truly hope that you don’t think that we who believe in evolution and don’t believe in God, or are willing to admit we’re not so dang sure about the whole thing, think that life is a moral free-for-all. This is not so. Personally, I can accept that this entire universe might be the result of a long string of coincidences. This doesn’t make me despair. If anything, the thought that life, the universe, and everything may not have ever happened, makes me appreciate life in its beautiful fragility all that much more.

  • shelli

    i’m scared. really and truly scared

  • tonya

    I’d say the silver lining is that Leta will be able to wear her “Mommy Wants a New President” t-shirt for a couple more years (or as long as it fits!)

  • Kim in Texas

    Wow, I was sure hoping to wake up to Kerry but instead woke up to a pretty resounding popular vote for Bush and a “wait and see” on Ohio.

    I’m most worried about the Supreme Court over the next 4 years. That will be a pretty tough thing to overcome in the next TWENTY years. So the “only four more years” mantra won’t work.

    I have one consolation – I started my own business this year and hope to have a combined family income over $200k in the next two years. So, I won’t pay more in taxes (which I think I SHOULD if I make more money!) so I’ll be thinking about what worthy charities will get that money I’ll be keeping because of a screwed up taxation system that isn’t at all equal.

    Kano – Give us a day to get used to this. Geesh, why don’t you go to a Red website somewhere and spew your cheer?

    And Suki? Fluff and sh*t don’t make good filler in concrete. I should know – I’m an engineer.

  • catherine

    Let’s all move to America Coastopia! >>

  • Tim


    Three words:
    Sean Hannity Weblog.

    Go there and give us a break from your righteous indignation.

  • pissed

    we kill unborn children because it is an inconvenience to our perfect lives. <— this is pro-life rhetoric bullshit. Do you really think that? “…an inconvenience to our perfect lives”

    everyone that has a perfect life please raise your hand…

    yea, that’s EXACTLY the thought every woman has when she walks through the door of the abortion clinic, “..gosh, this is just so darn inconvenient in my perfect life”

    her body is her business, cuz, get this…YOUR body is YOUR business. Amazing how that works.

  • Patrick

    The only good thing to come out of this election: maybe Americans will start to give a shit about this country’s operations more than once every four years.

    I’m also confident that Bush’s legacy will be similar to his father’s — that of a likable, but bumbling charlatan who set this country back more than he guided it. W’s inability to play nice in the global sandbox and penchant for legislating morality will, in time, prove themselves to be his undoing.

    In the meantime, we have to get ready for Frist or Cheney (ha!), or whomever will atempt to carry W’s scepter in four years.

    Who’s it going to be up for the challenge?
    Obama ’08
    Hillary ’08

  • Sue From Ohio


    My ‘god bless america’ comment was taken out of context but by calling it propaganda-induced, you may be right. hmmm, propaganda=opinion…induced=influence

    so basically, I was reading the forum and was ‘induced’ to share my ‘propaganda’ because of my strong feelings about people wanting to leave. hmmm, I guess that means every post here is propaganda-induced, right?! It makes sense to me but maybe that’s because I’m an idiot.

    So since I’m American AND from Ohio does that make me a ‘double-idiot’? I don’t know, I’m an idiot….

    Have a good night all, I’m spent…….

  • jmf

    I love reading Dooce and I love that we live in a country where we can publicly disagree on politics, religion, etc. What I can’t stand is when people who claim to be so ‘open minded’ (i.e. liberals) are so close minded when it comes to accepting and respecting those that don’t agree with everything they believe.

    Trust me when I say that I am not a far right conservative…I am simply a rational, respectful American that believes we all have a right to believe what we want to believe, vote how we want to vote, and ACCEPT the outcome of an election….because that is what democracy is all about.

    Kerry needs to concede already–I live in Ohio and I can tell you that with Bush’s lead of 135,000 votes and only 140,000 provisional votes remaining (which typically only yields less than 50% legitimate votes) it is NOT mathematically possible for Kerry to win this state.

    Let’s not even get to the discussion that there was a $4 million difference with Bush winning the popular vote for all of the U.S. Facts are facts here–while you may not agree with the outcome you must concede that Americans have voted and this is where the majority lies and you must respect that.

  • ben

    It’s valid and understandable to anyone with a bit of empathy for a position other than your own that people are experiencing feelings of disappointment, anger, alienation, etc. caused by what is widely perceived by a good many Americans (and others around the world) as mass approval of an incompetent, uncompassionate, and criminal president.

    For many like myself, this election was a litmus test to see how ignorant, hateful, spiteful, misguided, and plain dumb Americans can be. To want to disassociate ourselves with these people is understandable. However, I agree. We should stay. The rest of the idiots need to go somewhere facism is universally fashionable.

    Unfortunately, we’re all stuck here together. We’re a deeply divided country. We aren’t all going to hold hands and heal. We’re going to figure out a way to regroup and eventually take back this country for decency, humanity, and intelligence. We’re underdogs right now, but the ones with justice on our side usually are.

    No matter. We’re patient.

  • melissa

    well said, jmf. I also live in Ohio and I am SOOOO glad I got out there and voted for Bush!

  • e

    we provide the right of choice not because we are in favor of the careless termination of fetal life, but because the alternative is much, much worse. To wrench that decision, (which you must realize, if you are honest, is not generally a careless one), from those whose bodies are in question, and hand it to an external party, is more dangerous than the alternative is distasteful. If you are so goddamed concerned with the right to life, I assure you that the collective death toll from AIDS far exceeds prevented fetal termination produced by your efforts.
    If you mean to save lives and not merely to advance your own social preferences, consider that.

  • Aimée

    (Photo of clothing label should be right here)

    “This is a clothing label from a small American company that sells their product in the US, France & Canada.

    The inside label carries instructions on washing and caring for the bags. Because the bags are sold in France & Canada, the instructions are also printed in French. The French version, however, contains an additional phrase: “NOUS SOMMES DESOLES QUE NOTRE PRESIDENT SOIT UN IDIOT. NOUS N’AVONS PAS VOTE POUR LUI.”

    Here’s the translation of the French part of the label.

    Wash with warm water.
    Use mild soap.
    Dry flat.
    Do not use bleach.
    Do not dry in the dryer.
    Do not iron.
    We are sorry that Our President is an idiot.
    We did not vote for him.”

  • artgirl

    So I’m going to complain, whine and bitch my two cents for a moment. I’m not as mad as I am frightened that this has happened.

    When I woke up this morning and saw all the red, I was blown away. He got the popular vote?! Does no one care that we have so much unemployment? Does no one see the terror that he puts into everyone? Stem cell? Anyone? Anyone?
    I am freaked out. I’m not a vomiter, I’m more of a pooper. I heard on the radio…NPR that he is more relatable. He’s for the blue collar…blah…blah…blah..

    I work in the public, let me tell you I have heard everything from … “If you vote for Kerry- you better get your guns” to “I’m voting for Bush because he is Christian” to my coworker actually dancing around all 19 years of her exclaiming that she voted for Bush, “like because… um… like.. he’s like against abortion and Kerry is like for it… and like…. he’s not for Gays getting married and like… neither am I… cuz like… I’m super religious.”

  • Amy

    oh PLEASE. the republicans survived bill clinton, and the democrats will survive w. suck it up and get on with your lives. it’s NOT the end of the world as you make it sound.

  • laura

    From an Irish perspective:

    I have cousins who live in New Mexico, every time I meet them, they apologise for their president. The tell me they didn’t vote for him. (him being Bush)

    59,017,382 voted for Bush.

    But I take heart that 55,435,808 people voted for Kerry. He only lost by one state. (current counts)

    I think now is the time to begin the battle for 2008. Get those votes back.

    I wish you luck. You should join the democrats and campaign for them!! Leta will be old enough to be your mascot by then. :-)

    The way I see it, 55,435,808 intelligent people voted for Kerry.

    There’s hope in that!

    John Kerry is a nice man. Too nice to have to clean up Bush’s shit!

  • nick

    Camille (#109)
    I think that’s about the most intelligent thing I’ve read on this site. Good for you.

    Yes, let’s pull together. Our voices will be heard in the Senate and House. Find sites on the internet. Get involved. Stand up for what you believe in. You can still make a difference. Write your local officials with your opinion. You will be heard.

    Just because Bush is in office again, doesn’t mean we are going to hell in a handbasket. Especially if we don’t let ourselves.

    Just today someone forwarded me an email asking me to sign a petition for a new breast cancer law. This is how we’ll do it. Grass roots style.

  • Beth

    Pass the Maker’s Mark, please. I need some!

  • Aimée

    Yeah, Amy but what about the catchy phrase “Clinton lied & no one died”? That can’t be said about Bush.

  • Jeff

    Osama bin Laden would be proud.

  • jlh

    I, for one, am very glad that this ban passed in all 11 states. Maybe this country is salvagable afterall?

  • Shannon

    If you are bummed because Bush won, try living in Utah and being bummed that Bush won. It’s like living in a sea of red (70% for Bush) and not knowing why the hell you stick around if no one likes your kind here anyway.

    And the whole Amendment 3 thing–the most monstrous single piece of legislation I have ever voted against–is now going to be a part of our state constitution. I am having a hard time seeing what is worth sticking around and fighting for.

    But, maybe that’s because I live in Utah.