It’s the 1960′s all over again

Of course, it passed. What is wrong with this country?

  • http://www.ourworld.blog-city.com shannon c

    I don’t think eating breakfast was a good idea, I feel it coming back up. Someone said last night that it couldn’t get worse than it has been the past four years. BULLSHIT! However, let’s hope we (the sane) keep this fever up so that we DO keep on top of what the white house is doing and challenge him every step of the way.

    Sadly, Measure 36 (ban on gay marriage) passed here in Oregon as well. I’d had so much hope…

  • http://www.livejournal.com/users/emianne Emily

    Rome wasn’t built in a day. This is a loss, but not a defeat

  • http://www.infinitepink.com Christine

    “What I can’t stand is when people who claim to be so ‘open minded’ (i.e. liberals) are so close minded when it comes to accepting and respecting those that don’t agree with everything they believe.”

    I think that is part of the reason that Bush has won the election so handily. People are sick of the liberal elite telling them what they should think.

  • Raabaliciousness

    Here’s how my glass is half-full:

    John Kerry is still my senator! :)
    Obama! (Not Osama!)
    New Hampshire turned blue!

    I’d be lying if I wasn’t shitting myself about the supreme court appointees over the next four years…but I’m not ready to come to Canada.

    But in case there is a draft, I do know the Canadian national anthem and some French. There are some countries that allow freedom of speech that don’t force you to kill people (in Iraq) that have done nothing to you (9/11).

  • wow

    Legislate morality? How absurd! We’d better throw all the laws out, today! That way it’s OK for anyone to do anything. That’s what America’s all about, isn’t it? Freedom!

  • Mike M

    The one bright side: Some predict the next few years will see an economic crash approaching the depression. That could open up the door for a Democratic victory in 2008.

    Of course, they also said heavy turnout would favor Kerry, that all the newly-registered voters would favor Kerry, yada yada yada…

    How many days until the 2008 election?

  • http://chaostraffic.diaryland.com HRT

    I for one will not miss one person who thinks Canada or UK is a better country than the US. I say good bye, and good riddance.

  • Michelle in Australia

    When our Prime Minister Bonsai (Little Bush) was re-elected, I thought of moving country. Canada perhaps. Or New Zealand. But now your fellow is back in on on the other side of the pond, I’m thinking of moving planet.

    Anyone wanna join me?

  • http://filemagazine.com Beerzie Yoink

    What’s wrong with Utah?

  • Kellie

    “The one bright side: Some predict the next few years will see an economic crash approaching the depression. That could open up the door for a Democratic victory in 2008.”

    Oh that’s nice. Cross your fingers for the demise of the American economy for a Democratic victory. Classy.

  • http://chaostraffic.diaryland.com HRT

    p.s. when the terrorists start attacking the UK and Canada, can we stop defending you? I hope so.

  • http://deann.blogspot.com DeAnn

    They all passed, but I have to believe this is the backlash before the end. And that, in 10 to 20 years, the majority of voters in this country will support same-sex marriage. Most people in their 20s seem to. As do kids. Kids are our future. Let’s please hope they don’t change.

  • http://www.infinitepink.com Christine

    AP:

    John Kerry just called President Bush and conceded the election.

  • Hillary

    Dear Pissed,
    I believe that what was meant by the “inconveniance to our perfect lives” comment is that women VERY rarely choose to have abortions b/c of health threats to the mother or the child. In fact, those types of cases ( along with rape and incest cases) make up about 1% of the abortions performed in our nation each year. I believe Eddo is trying to explain that most (although not all) women who choose to have abortions do so b/c they are ariaid of the repurcussions of delivering the baby full term. These repurcussions may or may not include financial problems, embarassment at being pregnant out of wedlock or being “too” old/young to have a child. But ultimately I agree with Eddo. The reasons for abortions generally do not have anything to do with the child, rather they have to do with the problems the mother may face after giving birth to the child.

    My mantra is and will always be: If you cannot take care of the child that may be produced in the act, then you should not take part in sexual intercourse.

    Yes, I practice this mantra by choosing to not be sexually active b/c I am not married and do not have the financial means to support a child on my own.

  • LadyBug

    Can I just say, I’ll be sooo glad when all this is over and we can get back to talking about cute babies and poop…..or was it babies and cute poop? Nah, couldn’t be.
    Anyway, please, please, please dear God in Heaven, let this political nightmare be over soon!

    LadyBug

  • Erin

    Kellie – it was a joke. Lighten up!

  • Jen

    Here in Florida it wasn’t that bad, but Amendment 1 passed, which was parental notification of abortions in minors. It’s a great thought that all girls who accidentally get pregnant could go to their families for help, but it just isn’t that way. Oh, and, gee, if we want less abortions, HOW ABOUT SOME SEX ED??? Just a thought for Bush & Bush. (We have one as governer, too. I’m moving, I swear to god.)

  • Mike M

    It was sarcasm…didn’t you see the part where I pointed out all the other things they said that didn’t turn out quite as predicted?

    Sorry…forgot to put the ASCII-art in my post.

  • Cristina

    KIM IN texas ” I won’t pay more in taxes (which I think I SHOULD if I make more money!) so I’ll be thinking about what worthy charities will get that money I’ll be keeping because of a screwed up taxation system that isn’t at all equal.”

    STANDING OVATION. WELL DONE.

    As for moving to another country, its nice to talk about, but think about the “blue votes” that you will forfeit at the next election.

  • Mike M

    One of the things that is striking in this country is the difference between the urban areas and the suburban and rural areas. You could pull up nearly any state electoral map on CNN.com and locate the large cities—they were nearly all blue. The rest is red.

    I grew up in a small town but always felt like a fish out of water. Once I got a chance to experience city living and diversity, I felt more at home.

    Happy to live in a very blue part of a blue state…

  • http://www.dooce.com/archives/daily_photo/ WT

    :)

  • CDNRXBY

    I just have to say as a Canadian (who’s also gay) I’ve never understood the state of things in America. It’s a beautiful country with some very ugly people. I’m not talking in a physical sense either! Many GOP supporters are “Born-Again” Christians… why then do they not practice the teachings of the book they so ademantly force on the 60% of Americans who DON’T profess to be “Saved”? And why don’t more “unsaved” Americans stand up and be counted? I work for a Christian radio station (not a great idea when you’re GAY! :-D ) and most of the shows we play are from the USA. They ALL perceive that the Liberals run EVERYTHING… HOW THE HELL (sorry for the pun) DID BUSH GET BACK IN OFFICE IF EVERYTHING HAS BEEN “HI-JACKED” BY LIBERALS? Maybe it SHOULD be. I profess to Christianity (God doesn’t hate gays but his PEOPLE seem to!) however, I do NOT force it on people who don’t want it!

    I understand why something like Prop 3 could pass in a State like Utah. However, it should never pass in more DEM-strong states like California provided the people speak-up. I know what it’s like to be told you’re going to hell for standing up for what you believe in but AMERICA IS YOUR COUNTRY TOO! All I can do as a resident of your Northern Neighbour is invite you to come live here. Maybe if there were more people here in Canada it wouldn’t be as cold! :-D

    God help America, she needs it right now.
    J in TO

  • Mary D

    First time poster. I love dooce.com by the way and I just adore Leta!

    I’m Canadian and I’m scared. We have to back the US if not we might be bombed by the US for some crazy reason. It makes no sense. I don’t what is going on with people. Yes, you have the right to choose but if people are making bad decisions then someone should step in. It’s no wonder the US gets attacked. There is a president who is fighting his Daddy’s war and who is sending out people from his own country to be beheaded and millions and millions of people are supporting him. Isn’t that what Sadam was doing?

    God help us all, not just the US but Canada too because we all live in America.

  • GMM

    I am Canadian, and I watched this election closer than I watch ours. I am so, so disappointed. Everyone I know wanted anyone but Bush and his “terror” speeches and propaganda for another 4 years. And gay people SHOULD fully be allowed to get married. Close-minded people disgust me.

  • http://www.rollingdoughnut.com/ Tony

    I would rant about some of these comments, but there’s no point. Thank you for voicing your opposition to these discriminatory amendments. We’ll have to wait for it, but history will not judge these 8 years kindly. I just hope I don’t have to wait for my grandkids to be the ones to see that day.

  • Mike M

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    California adopted prop 22 several years ago. ALthough it was not a consitutional amendment, it added text to the Family Code which states that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.

    So yes, it can happen even in a Democratic leaning state. Only San Francisco and five nearby counties voted against this law.

  • nick

    it’s over. bush won (thankfully). but we give kerry credit for conceding and not dragging it out.

    please, no talk of not really winning or any of that crap. bush won by the greatest majority of popular vote. ever.

    i for one am going to start working to make this country more moderate.

  • Sheryl

    Mike M,
    (I posted this last night but thought it was an appropriate response to your post about rural vs. urban).

    One thing about the Electoral College that I think hasn’t been mentioned here is that individuals in the states with lower populations have more voting power. In some states it takes 9 votes to win one electoral college vote, in others it takes 900,000 votes to equal one electoral college vote.

    The system tries to make sure representation is not skewed in favor of what the city populations want, but ends up skewing toward what the rural populations want.

  • http://bornfamous.com/blogs/ lavonne

    what’s really scary is that this administration has been deliberately bankrupting the country, and now will be able to finish the job, so that they’ll be able to finish off all entitlement programs–like social security, disability, unemployment, etc. better start saving every dime for your retirement–and kiss your health insurance, if you still have any, goodbye.

  • http://home.earthlink.net/~hfjackson/ Heather Jackson

    kak·is·toc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kk-stkr-s, käk-)
    n. pl. kak·is·toc·ra·cies
    Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.

    this is a real world and we are really living it.

    for a good laugh rent the “best of will ferrell” it has the cowbell sketch.

  • wow

    KIM IN texas ” I won’t pay more in taxes (which I think I SHOULD if I make more money!) so I’ll be thinking about what worthy charities will get that money I’ll be keeping because of a screwed up taxation system that isn’t at all equal.”

    What’s equal about paying more than your fair share? I applaud you, too. I wouldn’t be able to if the government took it away from you and you couldn’t choose to give it to the causes you cherish. Would you rather the government chose for you?

  • CDNRXBY

    I just have to say as a Canadian (who’s also gay) I’ve never understood the state of things in America. It’s a beautiful country with some very ugly people. I’m not talking in a physical sense either! Many GOP supporters are “Born-Again” Christians… why then do they not practice the teachings of the book they so ademantly force on the 60% of Americans who DON’T profess to be “Saved”? And why don’t more “unsaved” Americans stand up and be counted? I work for a Christian radio station (not a great idea when you’re GAY! :-D ) and most of the shows we play are from the USA. They ALL perceive that the Liberals run EVERYTHING… HOW THE HELL (sorry for the pun) DID BUSH GET BACK IN OFFICE IF EVERYTHING HAS BEEN “HI-JACKED” BY LIBERALS? Maybe it SHOULD be. I profess to Christianity (God doesn’t hate gays but his PEOPLE seem to!) however, I do NOT force it on people who don’t want it!

    I understand why something like Prop 3 could pass in a State like Utah. However, it should never pass in more DEM-strong states like California provided the people speak-up. I know what it’s like to be told you’re going to hell for standing up for what you believe in but AMERICA IS YOUR COUNTRY TOO! All I can do as a resident of your Northern neighbour is invite you to come live here. Maybe if there were more people here in Canada it wouldn’t be as cold!

    God help America, she needs it right now! :-(
    J in TO

  • Megan

    I am bitter and upset. I am upset that all the “new” voters apparently voted for the jackass. I too feel sick today and I probably smell sick too cause I couldn’t even muster the will to shower this morning. I am horrified and I live in GA and I am really starting to hate this state. But at least Atlanta went to Kerry, I’m glad to have been a part of that. WAIT!! CHECK OUT THE BREAKING NEWS ON CNN.COM!!!

  • Sheryl

    Eddo,
    I don’t have a problem with us reaching out a helping hand to other countries.

    But I don’t think it is right to pick and choose the way we do. Saddam Hussein wasn’t necessarily worse than other rulers who have raped, tortured and imprisoned their own for many years. For example, Hussein’s actions did not affect the lives of the people in the US more than the Colombian rulers’ did and still do (number one export: cocaine). There was a lot more money to be made in Iraq as we’ve already maximized the exports from Colombia anyway.

    The Republican Party seems to flip-flop or hold contradictory views.

    Regarding governmental control vs. individual freedoms. They say as you did that liberals and Democrats want the government to sweep in and fix things. At the same time, Republicans seem to want the government to maintain control of the things that the government is already controlling in ways they like (abortion, marriage). But they want the government to stay out of the things they want to control themselves (guns).

    I voted for Kerry because I felt that he represented the values I feel strongly about – cooperative/responsible foreign policy, freedom for people to make their own choices about their bodies and how they live their lives with their families, rights of workers, fair policies for the greater group. I voted for Kerry because he is able to see and admit there is complexity in the issues.

    Will Bush encourage his own daughters to join the military and fight in Iraq? If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, will Bush support the prosecution of rich white people who can have abortions because they have enough money to bribe doctors to do so?

  • Colleen

    Did Kerry concede?

  • Washingtonienne

    “Why is it that we all have unique DNA? Why do we have different fingerprints? Why do we have unique voice tones? The list goes on and on, I believe it is because God made us special and unique”

    Pathetic. Trees also have unique DNA. Do we love each and every one of them or do we kill them without a thought? What makes people different from trees? God? Nope. God would have equal reverence for the trees. Gonna have to come up with a better argument than that before I support anti-abortion laws.

  • http://morici.typepad.com/bag_n_trash maryse

    george bush would make a good president of france, except the french would have the good sense not to elect him.

    again, i have underestimated the stupidity of the american people.

  • Cristina

    How does Jon feel about you pursuing Dick Cheney?

  • Jacob

    All of you that are “so depressed” and “vomitting” and think a fellow human being would make “good filler” for your concrete. Open your eyes – the *majority* of this country knows the definition of marriage.

    My heart aches for those African-Americans that suffered such great hardships in this country’s past. What an insult it is to them to compare the “plight” of the selfish homosexual community to what these men and women went through because of RACE.

    Go ahead and make good on your threats and please, please head on up to Canada.

  • Mike M

    Sheryl,

    That is a good point. There is a mistake in your figures: the smallest state by population is Wyoming, where Bush got 167,000 votes to Kerry’s 70,000. So it works out that it takes about 40,000 votes per electoral vote (40,000 times 3 = 120,000 out of 237,000 votes cast, enough to win the state).

    Compare that to California, where it takes about 90,000 votes per electoral vote.

    There were just under 10 million votes cast for President in California, which had an estimated population of 33.8 million in the 2000 census.

  • Colleen

    wow, holy smokes…just turned up the radio…he did.

  • http://www.evilsciencechick.blogspot.com Regan

    yeah. Georgia did the same thing. I hate living here sometimes.

    And thank you. THANK YOU for the mental image of DICK CHENEY POOPING!!!!!

    I need to rinse my brain out with tequila for that one…

  • http://almost30.blogspot.com ab

    What a fabulous idea…let’s put discrimination into the constitution!

  • Manuel

    Drinking all the time is good. Gay marriage is fine. Whining works.

    I love this site. It’s cool.

  • Mary D

    I am Christian and I got to church each Sunday. I believe in God and say my prayers. I do not believe that God wants us to judge others so I don’t. Therefore, I don’t think gay marriages should be banned. I’m the miniority. I’m white, I’m married to a man, I’m female by the way. I think people should have the right to choose. If you are gay and love someone and both of you respect and cherish each other then that is all that matters. It’s the same ideal for straight marriages. As long as you love one another that is all tha matters. Family values my ass. Sure Bush might be a good father, sure he might not cheat on his wife but he is crazy and those who support him are too. I think that all those who voted for Bush and Bush along with his family, should don army gear and be sent to Iraq to fend for themselves. Let’s see who’d come crying back home with their tale between their legs. Let them fight their own war. Let them be held for ransom and lets not pay it. We’ll see who changes their vote then.

  • JustMe

    In honor of Bush’s win, after I got home from work, I made a donation to Planned Parenthood. Care to join me?

  • Heather 2

    I think I’m gonna be sick…

  • Kate

    How do you get a nation of people who can afford no better than Walmart to empathize and even fight to the death for the concerns of the rich? Enquiring minds wanna know — if people here are so television-rapt and non-critical, than I am next to try rule their little worlds bwa hahahahahha

  • wow

    Thank you, Kerry for being a gentleman.

  • http://www.vaguelyspecific.com faith

    Lets just add it up now: Bush won, Howard (in Australia) won, van Gogh (an asshole but one whose right to be an outspoeken asshole I will defend to my dying day) was shot dead while cycling though the streets of Amsterdam, everyone is scared, and acting scared and reacting to being scared…….and I was just looking forward to having fun with my brand new baby boy! Damn!
    (OK, he’s a year now but the novelty hasn’t worn off!)