Oh noes! Here her goes again!

So I’m going to go ahead and risk being beheaded by opening up this wound again, but I want to post this video and encourage you to watch it for a couple of reasons (you’ll have to sit through a 15 second commercial, I have no control over that, but it’s important enough to endure that inconvenience):


First, this one minute and twenty-eight second video perfectly sums up why the selection of Sarah Palin as a vice presidential candidate scares the holy living shit out of me. To me, this is clearly an example of why they are not letting her talk to the press more because it appears as if she has no idea what she’s talking about.

Two, I am genuinely interested in hearing from fans of Palin. I want to know why you think she’s qualified, and why you’d vote for a man who would choose to run with someone like this.

No name calling, no hurling of insults. I’d just really like to hear your side.

  • Steve-o

    In regards to comment 53…

    If you think that we’re in a free market economy right now, your mistaken. Some of the businesses that have been crashing as of late (Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, etc) aren’t independent businesses. They are government sponsored entities under plenty of different laws governing what they can and can’t do. Not to mention, that if they don’t loan to sub-prime candidates, they risk losing their lucrative backing by the federal government.

    A particular reason of why we are in the position we are in right now is because of government intervention.

    Which is precisely why I hope that by some miracle McCain can’t make it to the election and Ron Paul decides to step in.

    PS. While it would be easy to put the blame on the president for our current financial situation, constitutionally speaking, we should be blaming Congress for what’s going on. They are the one’s who passed the laws that got us here in the first place.

    Steve
    – A Conservative Free-Market-Facist not supporting either party.

  • janster

    To #301, Krissi:

    You say you agree with the Palin position on abortion. Would you be willing to give birth to the child of your rapist if you found yourself in that situation? Becuase that’s what Palin would do to women who become impregnated due to rape, if she had her way.

    She opposes abortion even in the cases of rape and incest. As mayor, she went so far as to charge women who were raped in Wasilla for the cost of rape kits (they contain emergency contraception).

    I’d really like to hear your answer on this, Krissi.

  • Kori

    I just cast my absentee ballot for Obama/Biden!! Down with the Republican jokesters!

  • Hollis

    I’ve never written in to your blog before, but this conversation has compelled me to respond. The idea of Sarah Palin as VP makes me queasy. I don’t understand how anyone can think she’s qualified. The best reasoning I’ve seen recently was in an essay in Newsweek by Sam Harris. Here’s what he says about all the people who love her because she’s “regular.”

    The problem, as far as our political process is concerned, is that half the electorate revels in Palin’s lack of intellectual qualifications. When it comes to politics, there is a mad love of mediocrity in this country. “They think they’re better than you!” is the refrain that (highly competent and cynical) Republican strategists have set loose among the crowd, and the crowd has grown drunk on it once again. “Sarah Palin is an ordinary person!” Yes, all too ordinary.

    We have all now witnessed apparently sentient human beings, once provoked by a reporter’s microphone, saying things like, “I’m voting for Sarah because she’s a mom. She knows what it’s like to be a mom.” Such sentiments suggest an uncanny (and, one fears, especially American) detachment from the real problems of today. The next administration must immediately confront issues like nuclear proliferation, ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and covert wars elsewhere), global climate change, a convulsing economy, Russian belligerence, the rise of China, emerging epidemics, Islamism on a hundred fronts, a defunct United Nations, the deterioration of American schools, failures of energy, infrastructure and Internet security … the list is long, and Sarah Palin does not seem competent even to rank these items in order of importance, much less address any one of them.

    Mr. Harris goes on to say that he wonders why all of a sudden being intelligent and well-educated is a BAD thing. I just don’t get it…

  • Lolly Pea

    #1102 – You are absolutely right, the question should have read VICE PRESIDENT. I was thinking ahead of the much larger issue, which is the experience of the two candidates running for the more important office. My mistake, please accept my humble apologies.

  • http://blog.pixelmedius.com Jason

    I think it’s ok to like Sarah Palin, she’s one heck of an interesting story. I think that if your political views are so centered on being pro-life or other religious issues, I can totally see why you would vote for her. And if there wasn’t the oldest candidate for President in history running with her, I would just go ahead and say that this is a move by McCain to pander to the religious right and laugh it off and probably not care too much one way or the other.

    The problem is that McCain isn’t particularly healthy, has outlived the entire male lineage of his family already, has cancer, and (lest we forget) suffered 5 years of torture. And he wants to have the most stressful job in the world. This is a woman who isn’t just a “heartbeat away from the presidency”, but she will LIKELY need to assume executive power at some point during his term. And for some Americans, that would be a literal Godsend, because a Palin presidency is a Christian conservative presidency with the same agenda and outlook.

    Anyway, that was all a long-winded way of saying, “yeah, I get why some people like her, but holy shit wtf?”

  • Cameron

    So if you haven’t already, please watch this brilliant portrayal of our future if the election goes badly:

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

  • Anonymous

    If clarity and eloquence (and for that matter experience) were a prerequisite we would not have had to endure the past 8 years. So sad. Calgon, take me away. I am praying that the Dems overcome this nightmare.

  • http://queencallipygos.livejournal.com Kim W.

    “She does have executive experience. She’s the ONLY one who has it. Go be mayor of a small town…not to mention Governor of a state…then come tell me she’s not experienced “to be a heartbeat away” from the presidency. Uhhh….YES SHE IS. She’s the only one who is! Executive power is a TOTALLY different beast than legisilative.”

    But by that logic, that means someone who was president of their high school GLEE CLUB has executive experience.

    It’s a question of scale. She was mayor of a town with only 6,000 people in it. I grew up in a town that size, and I knew three of the people who were mayor — and the only one of them I consider being fit to run for a national office doesn’t want the job. The other two simply wouldn’t have been up to the task.

    Incidentally, thank you for actually making a reasoned argument, though.

  • keith

    “1099. Janet” WTF?

  • http://www.threeseven.ca zchamu

    Honestly, I am starting to wonder if we’re all in this great big reality TV show and someone is playing a huge joke on everyone with this McCain/Palin ticket. Either that or someone has paid a massive sum of money to get the most ludicrous people on the GOP bill possible, just to see if people would vote for them anyway.

    Are people voting for them because they truly believe they will do a good job, or because of blind partisanism? (If that’s a word. Ha.)

  • http://www.longwindedandproud.com Adriana

    While she was mayor of Wasilla, she also asked how one would go about banning books from the library.

    She terrifies me. Aside from having completely opposite belifs as I do, she just doesn’t see that intelligent. And, I don’t know about others (I didn’t get a chance to read all of the comments), but I don’t want someone “normal” in office. I want someone exemplary! I want a President (and Vice President) who are smarter than me. Who know more, who have experience, who are articulate under pressure. Palin does not fit that bill in any way, shape, or form.

  • Lori

    I can’t wait to vote a JUNIOR Senator into office. GO TEAM. There’s some skills. Maybe if I spend 173 days in the senate I can become President. I can see the billboards now……..

  • Lisa

    I work for a company that does a lot of business in Alaska with Native Alaskan firms. I have spent a fair amount of time there and I will tell you that most Alaskans love Palin. She has a 80% approval rate.

    I do not agree with the conservative stance on abortion…I feel that I have never had to make that decision and I have no right to tell someone else what they should do. That being said, I don’t believe that a 13 year old should be allowed to have abortion with her parents knowledge. I try to vote my values and go with whoever can mirror those values the best, however in this election I can’t seem to find anyone who I feel is for my best interest.

    It’s a sad, sad day when you realize that the people who are in charge of this country no longer care what we want. What has happened to us as a country when we all follow like sheep. Whispering our displeasure for fear of offending someone rather than shouting from the rooftops our displeasure with the way this country is going. Personally, I think we (no matter what your affiliation is)should all ban together and let them know we aren’t happy.

    Whew…sorry got off the subject a bit. Started typing and just couldn’t control myself.

  • Anonymous

    All this talk about experience…To what degree does it make a difference? When I look at history’s examples, I conclude that more than experience matters.

    Abraham Lincoln- Illinois state legislator (sound familiar?) and House of Rep. for 2 years

    John F. Kennedy- one term as Senator before he won the presidential primary

    The debate over experience in regards to Obama and Palin matters less to me than their education and intellectual ability. We can all largely agree that neither Obama nor Palin have much foreign policy experience, but shouldn’t they at the very least be educated on the issues? I don’t want a VP who needs a crash course from McCain’s advisers and tutoring sessions from Henry Kissenger. I’d like the candidates to have some pre-existing knowlege of NATO, Israel, Iran, etc. Our leaders will be called on to make decisions that require historical knowledge and analytical insight; they should be able talk about such global policy issues with the necessary nuance. Yes, this is a form of elitism- I want my President and Vice President to be more intellectually astute, better educated, and more skilled than the average American in order to handle the complex problems of our country and world.

    I do judge candidates by their ablity to handle questions from the press. Biased journalists are small potatoes compared to what they will face as world leaders.

  • http://www.thebiggertheyget.com Tina

    Honestly, McCain wasn’t much more articulate than this in his Couric interview but I think the difference is that he was struggling to articulate what he thinks everyone wants to hear without backing himself into a corner, while Palin’s struggling simply because she’s clueless and hasn’t learned how to respond to questions she doesn’t know the answers to or ones she has no answers for as artfully as more practiced politicians do.

    Please tell me there’s no way they’re going to win this thing. Please?

  • http://authenticthreads.org/blog Braidwood

    Palin is not the type of person I would like to have represent the US as vice-president, but, whatever, doesn’t scare me. As PRESIDENT, on the other hand, which really could happen, I think she could do a lot of damage, her views are extremist and she seems inept- in the same ball park as George Bush.

    As far as McCain choosing Palin to run with: political decision designed to get him in office. All the major candidates are doing it. He and Palin are NOT natural allies. But, if he chose someone like Lieberman who is a natural ally and it didn’t mobilize his base and he DIDN’T get in office, it would be a moot point. He had to go with the choice he thinks would be most likely to get him elected. He obviously wasn’t courting the likes of me.

    I like McCain. I think he’s a good person and has done a lot of good during his political career. During this election, I was cheering for Hillary and think she would be a great president. BUT, now that she isn’t in the running, and McCain has moved his policy statements to the right and has selected a conservative, seemingly simple minded person, as his running mate, I’m taking it back with Barack! Oh, and I love Michelle Obama. She will be an awesome first lady.

    Oh and if you want to see a swing song about Barack, check out my blog: http://authenticthreads.org/blog/2008/09/22/takin-it-back-with-barack-jack-for-swing-voters/

  • Eileen

    #537 THANK YOU!

  • Courtney V.

    Part of the problem is that the average Republican won’t vote for anyone they see as too intellectual.

    Last night Keith Olbermann floated the idea that the Sarah Palin pick is a Hail Mary pass, and that the Republicans will continue to make these crazy decisions every couple of weeks until the election, forcing the media to forget the last crazy decision while they put the new crazy decision through a vetting process until the next crazy decision. Rinse. Repeat. Until Nov. 4th.

    Republican voters are being played. The people who run these campaigns are infinitely craftier than voters.

  • Jennifer

    Apparently, even famous conservatives who supported Palin in the beginning are realizing now that she is ‘out of her league’. For a honest comment from an conservative that is refreshing to this Democrat see this link….

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com:80/

  • Lisa

    If Americans are dumb enough to elect McSame and Moose-i-lini, we’ll deserve the buttfucking we’ll get from them. Have we not learned anything in the last 8 years?

  • http://canadiangosling.wordpress.com T-Bird

    My mother switched from Obama to Palin. We are from San Francisco, and definitely do not relate to her in a “she’s just like me!” way. So here’s why she switched:

    1. She finds Palin’s ambition and rise to the top inspiring; she’s a woman and didn’t let anyone stop her!

    2. Palin is female but unlike Hilary, is not playing the “victim” card. People apparently Love this.

    3. My mother thinks the only reason people are tearing Palin down is because they don’t like to see strong, Republican women. Apparently, people [liberal media] want strong women to only be liberal, and they can’t stand the fact that she rose to the top believing what she did. <– this one’s a key factor for her

    4. She fought corruption, even within her own party, and is therefore pure of heart.

    5. She is Very popular in Alaska. [i pointed out that most of alaksa is comprised of people who hold her ideals so no shit she's popular, but that argument didn't seem to work]

    Conclusion seems to be that because Palin has always stuck to her guns [ha!] she is an admirable candidate who knows how to take care of her territory.

    Oh well, CA is voting for Obama anyway, so you’re out of luck mama!

  • Karen

    Honestly? She’s about as experienced and qualified as Obama, and at least there’s a more experienced person who’d actually have to die before she became president. Plus I agree with the Republican platform far more than the Democratic platform.

    Is it an ideal ticket? Not necessarily. But given the choice between McCain-Palin and Obama-Biden, I’ll take M-P every day and twice on Sundays.

  • Steve-o

    Dear #847…

    If the only qualification for VP is being qualified for Pres, constitutionally speaking, she is qualified…

    Here’s a quote from Article 2 Section 1 of the constitution…

    “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

    Stop talking about qualifications etc. She IS qualified. If the founding fathers had wanted it any other way, they would have had something else in there.

    Everyone, do yourselves a favor and read through the constitution, then look over the proposed policies/promises that ALL of the candidates are putting out there and see if they can even legally meet those. http://www.usconstitution.net

    We are getting tons of promises from both sides that neither candidate can deliver on.

    For a list of what the President can do, please check out Article 2 section 2 of the constitution.

    Steve-o
    The bastard who quotes the constitution

  • Anonymous

    “why do I think she is qualified (6) Skins her own moose.”

    THAT’S a qualification? LMFAO…. oh lordy! Please tell me you’re kidding about that one.

  • kourtney

    I’m equally as terrified.

    If you live next to a hospital does that mean you can practice medicine? That’s basically what she’s saying.

  • Elizabeth

    Heather, I can’t tell you why anyone is so excited by Palin, but I’m surrounded by her supporters. I live in Wasilla and am a huge Obama supporter. The folks out here that support her just aren’t looking too closely, methinks. I should add that I saw maybe 2-3 McCain bumper stickers on cars out here (he lost the rep. primary here in February to Romney). After the announcement of Palin as his running mate, this place exploded with Palin/McCain paraphernalia.

    Obama supporters are having another rally in Wasilla tonight, wish us luck! It might get ugly out here.

  • http://held-prisoner-in-hampton-roads.blogspot.com/ bulldog

    Random thoughts:

    At least she wasn’t on TV describing Roosevelt’s appearance on television after the ’29 market crash.

    I am amazed that the most offensive vitriol about Palin is spewing from women.

    McCain was a sailor, not a soldier. He was flying a jet aircraft when he was shot down in Viet Nam. Infinitely harder to use than a computer, I might add.

    You can cover everything Obama has accomplished in the Illinois senate (I vote Present!) and the U. S. Senate (member for almost four years, running for president for three) with your hat, and still have room for his two books, a missal from his church, and his campaign contributions from Fannie and Feddie) However, he did go bi-partisan to endorse a joint resolution honoring Rosa Parks. Groundbreaking, eh?

    He’s pointing his finger at the GOP for the mortgage meltdown, but anyone who can read knows who signed the deregulation bill (although he wasn’t wearing a blue dress with a spot on it at the time), and who opposed it (some Navy jet-jockey, y’all). The same folks should also know who predicted (in 2005) exactly what happened to the mortgage market (damn, that jet keeps circling back).

    Finally, anyone who can read also should know that Charlie Gibson’s understanding of the Bush Doctrine was off by at least 3/4ths. There is NO official Bush Doctrine. The term was coined by Charles Krauthammer, and eventually consisted of four parts: Pre-emption, treating terrorist-harboring nations as terrorists, support of democracy around the world, and the right to unilateral action in the war on terrorism. Granted, she probably should have known that, and didn’t. But, did any of the 400+ commentors dissing her know that either?

    I’ll take a plain-speaking everywoman any day over an orator with a good teleprompter, questionable associates, and a way to divert every question he’s asked.

    Palin scares you? Obama frightenes me to death. I won’t vote for a cult of personality.

  • Heather

    Ok I will admit first of all I am rushing kids out the door so I haven’t had a chance to read through all of the comments but I am a Palin supporter so let me try to briefly say why:
    - Is the whole we border Canada and we can see Russia thing ridiculous? Yes of course but to be fair how many Governors have foreign experience? Very few. But let’s face it Russia is resurfacing as a threat and she has had to deal with them somewhat. And Biden’s foreign experience? He admits he has very little.
    - I think she is tough and well-spoken. I feel that being criticized does not change her statements and opinions and I like the fact she doesn’t give a different answer depending on who is doing the interview.
    - I like the fact that she isn’t a Washington go-to-girl. Does she have some things to learn? Of course. But I truly think she’s capable of it.
    - If we’re going to compare VP picks and their speaking gaffes well Biden has had his share – just the other day he spoke of Roosevelt jumping on the TV stations to comfort people after the 1929 stock market crash. First of all Roosevelt wasn’t the president during that time and the only TVs in existence were in labs. He also gave a long drawn out speech on the evils of coal use until the Obama staff had to tap him to remind him that Obama’s official stance was pro coal and anti big oil. Or the fact that Biden admitted that he was probably not the best VP pick. He is also “Just a heartbeat away” from the presidency.

    OK I will be back to read the other comments and huge kudos to Heather for opening up an intelligend discussion

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I only got through about 300 of the comments and I’m sure I missed something…

    To the conservative Lesbian, I am a Lesbian too, and I can see myself vosting for a ticket that does afford me that same rights of any other tax payer somply becasue of who I love. I can’t support a ticket that want’s their morality become legistlation.

    As for Palin being stupid, I don’t think so. But she IS not prepared and her flack should have done a better job before unleashing the media hounds on her.

  • http://ferociousalyce.blogspot.com/ Alyce

    Heather, thanks for posting this. I know you were anticipating a potential for more backlash, but you did it anyway.
    I was really interested to hear what Palin supporters have to say. I just learned yesterday that my granmother “really likes” her, but I’ve been too scared to talk to her about it – I don’t know if I can handle the damage it’s doing to the respect I feel for her.
    If the only thing is her “real-ness”…. that is a terrifying way to choose a VP… I have many wonderful and intelligent friends that are “just like me” that I would not choose to be our VP.
    I am sick with worry that we will find ourselves with her as President.
    VOTE OBAMA ’08!

  • http://politicalfriends.blogspot.com Andy

    I have my own blog where I write about politics and ask readers to comment. Like you said in your post, my only rule is that you don’t insult other people who visit the site. My wife reads your blog and thought I might want to comment, so here goes:

    I am a conservative Republican. McCain was not my first choice in the primaries. To be fair, Obama wasn’t the first choice of a number of Democrats. However, when Sarah Palin was announced as the VP candidate, I got energized about this election.

    Palin is the only Governor still in the race. The other three are all Senators. This country hasn’t elected a Senator as President in a number of years. Governors have executive experience. Governors have to deal with problems and make “yes” or “no” decisions. They don’t have the luxury of voting “Present”.

    Palin is pro-life. So am I. Palin supports our military, so do I. Palin has done what most Democrats claim to want to do: she took on the Republican establishment and won. Palin wants to reform our government and reduce earmarks, I support that as well.

    Palin ran against a Republican governor to win her parties nomination in Alaska. She then defeated a previous Democratic Governor to become Governor.

    Don’t think Palin is stupid simply because you see a clip like this. Each of the candidates have had their gaffes. Palin had an 80% approval rating in Alaska. Most politicians would kill for that.

    I am excited because I agree with her on most of the issues. Isn’t that what voting for a candidate is suppose to be about?

  • Sue

    She can’t be that much of an idiot because she WAS elected governor of Alaska. Our last 2 presidents were governors as well if I remember correctly. I think Obama has just as little experience as her and HE is the PRESIDENTIAL candidate.

  • http://ilovemrpibb.blogspot.com Greta

    She’s not slick. You are correct there.
    I’m not a huge fan of McCain but honestly, even before Palin, I was on board to vote for him as a vote against Obama.

    For many reasons, I do not want him as our president. Pertaining to this thread, particularly because he won’t answer a question straight and has a vastly different set of morals than I do.

    Yes, I’m one of those wacko conservatists. BUT, I respect your right to have a different opinion as I believe you do mine.

    Bear with me as I try to choose the right words here.
    For me, the appeal of Sarah Palin is that she appears to “foundationally” be solid. No, she doesn’t have years and years of experience (nor does Obama) like some of our previous presidents. But as a person, I relate to her most closely and feel that when faced with difficult choices, I will be able to trust that she would (most likely) make a decision I am comfortable with.
    I can’t say that about Obama. In fact, I can say he will (most likely) make a decision I strongly disagree with.

    Thanks for opening this up for comments. I too enjoy reading your blog despite obviously differing opinions ;) .

    (And on a sidenote, Leta is beautiful and I love your Etsy references!)

  • jessica

    Just for the record when a “child” is concieved it is called a zygote. Cells my friend cells. The heartbeat does not appear until 7 weeks into the pregnancy. (That is almost 2 months.) Most of the women that I have known that have had abortions have had them before this time. As far as I am concerned if it doesn’t have a heartbeat it isn’t a life. Pro-lifers want to argue murder? Argue it to the people that support partial birth abortions. Don’t argue it to me because I don’t by it. I am done with this argument.

  • Madison

    Seems to me she would have looked less short bus if she just fessed up and said “I don’t have a lot of foreign policy experience but I’m fast learner” I would respect her more. Now she just looks like a moron. I can just imagine the Russian Government giggling like school girls that she is a vice president candidate. Nothing worse than a know it all who knows nothing.

  • #99

    It took me the longest time to figure out who she reminds me of…Is it Rosanna Rosanna Danna? Or is it Lily Tomlin’s crazy secretary character in I-don’t-remember-what-that-show-was…? Nope!

    By George, I’ve got it! She reminds me of Mrs. Wiggins (spelling?), who was in fact, Tim Conway’s secretary in those hysterical skits on the Carol Burnett show. (I know, showing my age!)

    “Oh, my God, the Hell!” is absolutely right.
    This almost-40-year-old is scared.
    Really scared. But, Barack doesn’t make me feel safe either.

  • American Jane

    AMEN to comment #537!!!! Thank you for taking the time to post those important URLS..

    And Aimee, whoever you are (interspersed in comments here)…. you go girl. I love you.

    So Heather, is this what you wanted? Wonder what your sponsors are thinking right about now….. hmmmmmmmmm….

    Like I said, stick with kids, dogs, photog and design….

  • casafroggy

    I was able to stomach exactly 43 seconds of the interview before having to shut it off. I am embarassed for this woman, and I am insulted that politicians would expect me to vote for their party because their VP candidate and I both happen to be X-X chromosome buddies. I was on the fence before but appointing Palin has put the last nail in the coffin as to whom will receive my vote.

  • Lisa918

    I am so embarrassed to admit that I live minutes away from where this thing resides…

    http://news.aol.com/article/palin-maze-carved-in-cornfield/189052

    I’m speechless and horrified right now–and absolutely scared for the future of this country.

  • SaraK

    Thanks for asking this question in a public forum. It’s one I keep going back to over and over again. I was actually going to email David Brooks of NYT fame and ask him the same.

    BTW, I’m in Utah, and I’m pro-Obama, so at least you’re not alone in the bastion of democrats that is Salt Lake City. I’m even way up in Davis County! :)

  • blue

    does anyone else out there realize that there aren’t just two choices to this campaign? the libertarian party (which is a party officially listed on ballots!) has a candidate too!! http://www.lp.org/

    also: there is another woman candidate for president: Cynthia Ann McKinney!! she’s of the green party!

    just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean you have to pick one of two!!

  • Wendy

    For those of you saying that Obama wrote he’d “stand with the Muslims,” check your facts. First, he wasn’t even talking about Muslims, and secondly, read the entire quote. The tone is wholly different from what you’re implying. Your hysteria–or should I say hatred?–is unwarranted.

    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

  • http://canikeepit.typepad.com The Furry Godmother

    This is the very reason McCain is trying to postpone the debate tonight in Oxford, Mississippi until — wait for it–October 2nd. That’s right, folks, the night of the VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, thereby costing the good people of Mississippi nearly five and a half million dollars! But, hey, what’s the salary of a rich guy among friends and enemies?

    And to Krissi (post#301, it is not the responsiblity of the government to regulate MORALITY. That is between you and your choice of worship and your upbringing.

    I am sooooo exhausted with people who vote for “morality” reasons. We Democrats have solid, decent, moral values as well. Only we would allow yours to peacefully coexist with ours.

  • Ivan

    1100.

    Read some of the stuff NOW and PP put regarding abortion and get back to me on whether or not you think anyone is pro-abortion.

    I’m glad we see eye to eye on partial birth, as we all should. As far as rape or incest, well, it’s natural to support it in those cases but it falls apart when you think through moral dilemmas. If it’s about a life at conception (which Biden says it is) and protecting that life, well, the life that comes from rape or incest is every bit as innocent as the life that comes from a husband and wife trying for a baby. I’d give Palin kudos for being consistent.

    Like I said, I’m not pro-life but if you work through the science and the morality of it all, it’s hard not to be against abortion, even in horrific cases. It’s tough all around, especially for the women who have to make that choice. I don’t think the answer is overturning Roe, but I do think someday abortion will be outlawed in this country and I think it will come about through social THEN legislative change, not judicial. Things work better when society wants them as opposed to when lawmakers dictate it.

    As for another post, someone said Palin forced rape victims to pay for the rape kits as mayor, but then said it was AK policy. Am I to deduce that a Mayor cannot override state law? Was it Palin’s policy or was it dictated by the State Legislature? I realize saying it was HER! makes a better and more frightening sound bite, but what’s the facts?

  • china

    there’s a poll http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
    what i don’t understand is why.

    sometimes during presidential elections i think we should have the option to secede.

  • Emily

    This isn’t answering the question posed by Heather, but I just had to say it. Politics aside, I find it so incredibly offensive when people refer to Sarah Palin as “retarded” (like comment #44) or “mentally disabled” or anything of the sort as they try to make the point that they think she is unqualified. As a family member of and advocate for the population being mocked, it’s personally hurtful. In addition, making slurs like that really diminishes the speaker’s credibility and detracts from any intelligent, fact-based arguments that they might have to present.

  • http://www.janniefunster.com Jannie

    Alyce in #87…

    Dooce does not write these kinds of posts “despite possible backlash.”

    She does this to create drama to get her page views back up.

    To pay her mortgage. Buy food and such.

    I like Dooce a lot in many ways but do you ever see her political posts balanced with an opposing view? No.

    She is a brilliant marketer — See, I think this is the 3rd or 4th comment I’ve left on this post. Page views!

    But the upside, Alyce, is maybe some independants will read these comments, do their homework and realize that Republican is the way to vote on Nov. 4th. And that is good. Very good.

  • Anonymous

    My 3 year old daughter was watching TV last night when Sarah Palin came on. She pointed to the TV and screamed, “I LIKE her a LOT!” Unfortunately most voters have the same 3 year old mentality, voting with their eyes, not their minds.

  • Anonymous

    This is from Eve Ensler, who wrote The Vagina Monologues.

    I don’t like raging at women. I am a Feminist
    and have spent my life trying to build community, help
    empower women and stop violence against them. It is hard to write about Sarah Palin. This is why the Sarah Palin choice was all the more insidious and cynical.

    The people who made this choice count on the goodness and
    solidarity of Feminists. But everything Sarah Palin believes in and practices is antithetical to Feminism which for me is part of one story- connected to saving the earth, ending racism, empowering women, giving young girls options, opening our minds, deepening tolerance, and ending violence and war.

    I believe that the McCain/Palin ticket is one of
    the most dangerous choices of my lifetime, and should this
    country chose those candidates the fall-out may be so great, the destruction so vast in so many areas that America may never recover. But what is equally
    disturbing is the impact that duo would have on the rest of
    the world.

    Unfortunately, this is not a joke. In my lifetime I have
    seen the clownish, the inept, the bizarre be elected to the
    presidency with regularity.

    Sarah Palin does not believe in evolution. I
    take this as a metaphor. In her world and the world of
    Fundamentalists nothing changes or gets better or evolves. She does not believe in global warming. The melting of the arctic, the storms that are destroying our cities, the pollution and rise of cancers, are all part of God’s plan. She is fighting to take the polar bears off the endangered species list. The earth, in Palin’s view, is
    here to be taken and plundered. The wolves and the bears are here to be shot and plundered. The oil is here to be taken and plundered. Iraq is here to be taken and plundered. As she said herself of the Iraqi war,
    ‘It was a task from God.’

    Sarah Palin does not believe in abortion. She does not believe women who are raped and incested and ripped open
    against their wills hould have a right to determine whether
    they have their rapist’s baby or not.

    She obviously does not believe in sex education or birth control. I imagine her daughter was practicing
    abstinence and we know how many babies that makes.

    Sarah Palin does not much believe in thinking.
    From what I gather she has tried to ban books from the
    library, has a tendency to dispense with people who think independently.

    She cannot tolerate an environment of ambiguity and difference. This is a woman who could and might very well be the next president of the United States.
    She would govern one of the most diverse populations on the
    earth.

    Sarah believes in guns. She has her own custom
    Austrian hunting rifle. She has been known to kill 40
    caribou at a clip. She has shot hundreds of wolves from the air.

    Sarah believes in God. That is of course her
    right, her private right. But when God and Guns come
    together in the public sector, when war is declared in God’s name, when the rights of women are denied in his name, that is the end of separation of church
    and state and the undoing of everything America has ever
    tried to be.

    I write to my sisters. I write because I believe
    we hold this election in our hands. This vote is a vote
    that will determine the future not just of the U.S., but of the planet. It will determine whether we create policies to save the earth or make it forever uninhabitable for humans. It will determine whether we move towards dialogue and diplomacy in the world or whether we escalate
    violence through invasion, undermining and attack. It will determine whether we go for oil, strip mining, coal burning or invest our money in alternatives that will free us from dependency and destruction. It will determine if money gets spent on education and healthcare or whether we
    build more and more methods of killing. It will determine
    whether America is a free open tolerant society or a closed place of fear,fundamentalism and aggression.

    If the Polar Bears don’t move you to go and do
    everything in your power to get Obama elected then consider
    the chant that filled the hall after Palin spoke at the RNC,
    ‘Drill Drill Drill..’
    I think of teeth when I think of drills. I think of rape. I think of destruction. I think of domination. I think of military exercises that force mindless repetition, emptying the brain of analysis,doubt, ambiguity or dissent. I think of pain.

    Do we want a future of drilling? More holes in
    the ozone, in the floor of the sea, more holes in our
    thinking, in the trust between nations and peoples, more holes in the fabric of this precious thing we call life?