Mortified

Last week I received my contributor's copy of Cringe: Teenage Diaries, Journals, Notes, Letters, Poems, and Abandoned Rock Operas. My friend, Sarah, put together this compilation of real teenage diary and journal entries, and it is screamingly funny in an OH MY GOD WHY DID NO ONE PUNCH ME IN THE FACE kind of way.

The entry I submitted is from the diary I kept during my freshman year in college, the year before I started taking meds for The Crazy, and there were so many choice excerpts that I had a hard time deciding which one was the most humiliating. Take for instance this entry from February 11, 1994:

It reads:
Ryan called the other night. I sent him a barney valentine card. Satan does live. He gets his vitality in Ryan. Satan himself called at the most vulnerable point of my entire semester yet. And how did Heather do? But of course she prattled to the tyranny of Satan and his servants. Without going into detail, I'll just relate what I've learned: I need to justify myself to no one except me and my Heavenly Father. No one else. The only opinion that counts is that of God. All else is foolish. And Ryan/Satan is just that.
Ryan/Satan was my boyfriend in high school, the first boyfriend I ever had, who broke up with me after three months because, oh, I WAS INSANE? I think he was calling me when I was in college to see if maybe I had grown any alien appendages, like a tree trunk jutting out from my brain, because certainly that was inevitable.
Then there's this one from February 8, 1994:

It reads:
Tuesday afternoon. But not by much. 12:38pm. I have a few before my daily carnal indulgence — Guiding Light. I think the weather has a lot to do with these complacent feelings I'm experiencing. Is it snow or just albino raindrops? Can't tell. Okay, about yesterday. First off, I was walking to the computer lab at about 7:30am yesterday when *bum ba bum* the National Anthem began to resound across campus and the flag began to ascend its pole. I was walking with my head down and happened to look up. There were about 20 people out there on the quad that early. Every single one of them stopped dead in his tracks, placed his hand over his heart, faced the flag, and contributed to the silence of the moment. It was a goose-bumping experience — one I could experience no place else. Saluting God's country at God's University. Brother Hedengren was discussing the source of "numerous perceptions" in Phil 110. Do we experience these warm fuzzy sensations from God, from Satan, or from ourselves? He then related the story of his nine year old daughter bearing her testimony of Heavenly Father. She lost her rabbit and after a few weeks of fervent prayer, a kid in her class at school showed up with a rabbit he had found for show-and-tell. Her rabbit, no doubt. God lives.
HOLY CRAP. Saluting God's country at God's university. If that isn't the creepiest thing I've ever written, right after ALBINO RAINDROPS.
Finally, the one I am most embarrassed over, from February 3, 1994 (that was a particularly bad month for The Crazy):

9:24am Thursday morning. Ooh yeah. I can feel the latent fatigue so eager to rack my body. Calculus is in a half-hour and since I don't know how to use the table of integrals, I'm not going to waste my time nor my paper. I got about four-five hours of sleep last night — after seeing a movie like that sleep doesn't come easy. Philadelphia. Homosexuality and aids. Poignant film, must say. Made me reconsider some of my hard-core conservative bias. These homosexuals with aids — yes, they choose the lifestyle, but not the disease. They, too, are human beings with real human emotion and real human moms and dads. One could say, and I probably would have also, that in choosing the lifestyle they choose the disease. But many of them do not have the protective agent of the gospel in their lives. Many of them genuinely don't know that it's wrong. How can justice be accounted for in these cases? These people are suffering for their wrong choices, but what if in the first case they don't know that it's wrong? How does anyone who is not homosexual know that homosexuals choose to have those tendencies? Yes, it is true that homosexuals can choose not to act on those feelings, but how can they choose the right of a situation they don't know implicates wrong? Homosexuality isn't any worse than blatant fornication, is it? Just because heterosexuality is "natural" doesn't mean that heterosexual promiscuity is justified. Both cases seem equally wrong to me. Karen is coming to Utah on the 28th of this month to stay for a week. I really love Karen. She has been one of my greatest friends. It would hurt me if she was hurt. So many wonder how I can embrace the gospel and return her friendship at the same time. Exactly the way I return all of my other friendships -- cliche, I know, but love the friend, not the sin. If we persecute homosexuals, we are Satan's tools.
No, really. SOMEONE HIT HER. I cannot believe that I actually wrote such bullshit, and this should prove that whenever I make fun of Mormons, I'm just making fun of the Mormon that I was, the ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent who needed a big one up her pooper.
And because I feel so bad about who that person was, I'm just going to go ahead and link to No on Prop 8. Gay marriage has become such an important issue to me, as it should be an important issue to everyone. It's a civil rights issue, period. And the only reason anyone wants to deny homosexuals equal rights is a religious one. PERIOD. Your God says it's a bad thing. But what if my God disagrees? If you take religion out of the equation, THERE IS NO ISSUE. And don't even get me started on the slippery slope end of the argument, because you know the only reason I'm writing this is because I want to legally marry my dogs. Both of them.
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2. Rebellious Arab Girl said:
I wrote crazy stuff when I was 10 or 11 in my first diary ever. Then I found the other day one from high school. I look back and think that maybe crazy people only write in diaries. And in this day and age, blogging is the tool. :)
3. JK said:
Holy crap, Heather. Was your hair REALLY that long?? That was all I could think about as I was reading your journal entries.
Love to see how much you have changed your thoughts and beliefs over the years. I love the way you write--you even had the same style back then!
I enjoy your site and read it every day!
4. Lula said:
At least your hair was really pretty. I like how you've showcased it over your shoulder, like a good Southern girl.
(I'm a Southern Girl, too, I know what I'm talking about.)
5. Laura said:
This is amazing and not unlike much of what I was writing in my diary at the time but with less Satan. (It's like you were the church lady with all those references to Satan).
One of these days I have to get the courage to share my own journal entries. I burned the one's from junior high and high school much to my chagrin but still I was just as clueless in college but had matured enough to realize I wasn't going to marry Joe McIntyre. Anyway, I have one particularly cringe worthy entry after seeing Schindler's List.
6. Beth said:
WOW. Those are awesome, in an awesomely bad kind of way. I've definitely found there's nothing like a little "myself at 19" to put things in perspective.
I love your writing!
7. Tina said:
Growing up over here in the Northeast I truly led a sheltered life... I had no idea that people even THOUGHT THAT WAY until I went to college. But perhaps I was too busy smoking pot and drinking beer and discussing Herman Hesse and other authors I can't remember very well with my friends- some of whom were homosexual or even Jews. I am glad you escaped from that world, Heather.
8. Anonymous said:
Now, Heather,
...if gay marriage is legalized across the board the next thing you know people will want to marry goats!
9. Libby said:
This makes me very glad I burned all of my diaries...
10. grimsaburger said:
You've brilliantly illustrated why, on many occasions over the years, I seriously considered going back through all of my old diaries (which date from 5th grade) and re-writing them.
11. Kristin said:
"If you take religion out of the equation, THERE IS NO ISSUE."
But for those of us who base our lives and morality on our faith, we cannot take religion out of the equation. It's part of who I am, the thing on which I try and base every choice, every motivation. Telling me to just forget what I believe in regards to this subject is in its own way, intolerant.
12. MrsB said:
I have a video that my friends and I shot when we were sixteen. We went on a 'Donut Run' (but we called it a Vietnamese name - which I have no idea how to spell and am embarassed to try and sound out - as we had a friend obsessed with the Vietnam War. Not in a nerdly way. In a scary, I know all the makes of the guns used to kill Vietnamese people type way. So, yeah, not friends with that guy anymore.) to 'Dunkin Donuts' - natch - and what is absolutely fascinating to me are the offhand racist, sexist and homophobic comments that we tossed around like nothing. The crazy thing about the video is that, when watching it, I am looking at myself, then, and I can almost remember looking through those eyes at the camera recording the idiotic tripe belching out my mouth - but I cannot remember that brain that created those comments.
Probably a good thing, too. I know I would have a few choice words to say to myself. Most of them are not nice at ALL.
13. emmysuh said:
What? Who would have thought that liberal Heather was such a conservative God-fearing Christian?!?
14. Elizabeth said:
This entry is exactly why I am addicted to this site! I think its important to look back on who we have become. Thanks for sharing. Im going to try and work 'albino raindrops' into a conversation today! :)
Yeah for gay marriage!!
15. College Totes said:
Early writing skills very impressive.
High courage to share this.
Everyone matures over time.
Thought provoking - "Your God" & "My God"
Thanks Again
16. Claire said:
Wow, those are incredible. My earlier diary entries were cringe-worthy mostly because I was able to work myself into a righteous anger over pretty much everything, but hadn't figured out how to express, except with a lot of indignant exclamation points and failed sarcasm. My early blog entries? Well, let's just say it's obvious I was fifteen and otherwise pretend they don't exist.
That book looks like fun, though. I'll have to check it out.
17. Ruthie said:
Thank you. I grew up in California -- my folks still live there -- and I'll be returning someday.
With, God and voters willing, my future wife.
18. Heather said:
I think we had the excact same child/youngadulthood!
My favorite is "If we legalize gay marriage, then eventually our culture would die out because NO ONE WILL BREED!!!"
Cheers!
19. Manda said:
Right on.
20. Marta said:
#11 Kristin> But you can see how pushing your beliefs impacts those who do not share the same beliefs, right? You're restricting what they can do just because it's wrong to YOU.
21. Jen said:
THAT was incredible.
My favorite line. "They [homosexuals], too, are human beings with real human emotion and real human moms and dads."
22. Ty said:
Oh holy crap. You are a braver soul than I am. It is suddenly incredibly distressing to me that my journal from high school is not in my possession. Never, never do those words need to see the light of day!
23. Emily said:
Hi Heather,
Thanks for this post. As the lesbian daughter of lesbian parents, raised in Utah, the issue of gay marriage hits close to home. I (obviously) wasn't raised LDS, and have no true capacity to understand where they are coming from. Oh, the irony to be found in this--not too long ago, they were persecuted for their choices, and now here we are seeing the church foster and spread a very similar persecutory message.
I know you have a lot of readers, so I'd just like to say--two of my moms, and their beautiful son and daughter, live in California. One of these moms is working every single day to prevent Prop 8 from passing. To all the readers, please initiate conversations with all of your California voting friends and family, so that in 19 days, my siblings will know that their parent's 15 year relationship is supported. Thank you!
ps--seeing how charming your dogs are, I'd marry them too!
24. Jacquie said:
Ach, the teen angst. The crazy and the God squad cheers give extra flavah. And WOW, what HAIR! With the same exact expression as your masthead photo.
Prop 8 is insulting in that it even gets to be a big issue. Why do I get a vote on who anyone else marries, unless one of the twosome is me?
25. Windy City said:
I cringe whenever I think of the person I was in my teenage years. Thankfully I don't have a journal/diary to look back and read through. But when I remember some of the ideas I had back before the age of reason and before leaving the church, I want to travel back in time just to kick the shit out of myself.
26. sunny said:
Are these really your journal entries or did you hack into Sarah Palin's personnal blog?
27. Sarah said:
Thanks, Heather. I think you're right- that the issue is entirely based on faith, and if we really are going to have a separation of church and state in our society, which is no more biased to one religion than another, then this is a nonissue.
Not to mention, if you don't believe in gay marriage, don't have one! End of story.
28. eouio said:
Kudos and agreement to Kristen (#11) above.
I love the blog and enjoy following your family a bit...
Couldn't disagree more about most things political, social, or religious though.
Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder.
29. TPS said:
Nevermind the diary content, your hair was FABULOUS!
30. Anonymous said:
That was great but also kind of scary. Thanks for sharing with us. oh and that is some interesting hair you were sporting.....
31. anne cunningham said:
"No, really. SOMEONE HIT HER. I cannot believe that I actually wrote such bullshit, and this should prove that whenever I make fun of Mormons, I'm just making fun of the Mormon that I was, the ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent who needed a big one up her pooper."
Okay, right about there, that's when I laughed out loud and shot coffee out my nose!
Takes guts to go back over the pages, takes guts to reveal, and just imagine what an amazingly tolerant child you are raising!
Rock on, Heather!
32. Anonymous said:
I think it's kind of backwards. You were more on track in the journal entries. Without religion (the one and only God) you're right, there is no issue. But there is also no hope.
33. kerry said:
at least you had nice handwriting.
34. Jawnbc said:
Hi Heather,
While my Oirish Catlick upbringing didn't feature the same...interesting...turn of phrase, it did lead me to register as a member of the Right to Life Party when I turned 18.
And now I"m the poster child for same-sex marriage:
http://en.chatelaine.com/english/weekend/article.jsp?content=20080808_11...
Shame they didn't include the photo from the print version of the magazine: most people would find my husband and my's balding beaming countenances more doughboy than demon.
35. Amelia Sprout said:
I just recently threw out all of my diaries from high school. So very very glad that I did too. It was before the crazy meds for me too.
My god says gays should marry. She says so, so it must be true.
36. April said:
"[Homosexuals] are human beings with real human emotion and real human moms and dads."
When I read that I wondered if prior to watching "Philadelphia" you maybe thought homosexuals were alien robots immaculately conceived by the Virgin Boy George and Xenu. :)
I really must find my teenage diaries and burn them...
37. InfamousQBert said:
okay, terrifying as all that 19/20 year old angst is, i wanted to say that your thoughts in the last one were actually pretty interesting. while i don't dig being "tolerated" or the whole "love the sinner, hate the sin" thing, i do like that you were already starting to see the humanity and inherent hypocrisy in what you'd been taught.
and, to kristin, that's what the whole separation of church and state thing is about. taking religion out of our laws. no law can make you recognize a homosexual marriage as "right", only legal. Christ said "give to caesar what is caesar's". this wasn't just referring to taxes, but to the laws that the government imposes. your beliefs are inherent to your life, just as mine are to my life. i would never try to make a law that forbade you from worshipping in the way you believe, so why would you want to make a law that keeps me from expressing my beliefs in the way i see fit?
38. Mark said:
Wow. Just Wow.
39. Anonymous said:
I don't know if you read my comments (I've never really posted many) or if I'll ever hear back from you. But, again, I want to thank you for your stories on your fight with depression, your experiences in family life, and the world around you. I read this blog and, while I know it does not represent/discuss everything about your...you have been one of the only bloggers that has kept my attention for as many years as you have. Thank you. Your stories resonate.
40. Dana said:
Ah...teenage angst has paid off well.
I have looked back over all of my teenage writings on occasion...and I always have the feeling that it wasn't me that wrote all of that crap...but some alien being that took over my brain for several years...how could I have ever been so shortsighted? So bratty? So concerened with such trivial matters? So concrete in the thought that I was right and everyone else was wrong?
Just goes to show what a little age and experience can do for a person. Everyone and anyone can change...but you'd never have been able to be the person you became without all of that angst and turmoil.
And I personally think it was the weight of all that hair that was pulling your brain in a weird direction.
41. Stephanie said:
You look back on your former life and think it was misguided, but it's only because you have different opinions than you do now. I thought your writing and your thought process was good, so you weren't ignorant. You were doing what every college student should do . . . searching out the opinions that you grew up with and figuring out if you really believe them.
Please don't reduce other people's opinions to ignorance, pig-headedness and intolerance. Being a Mormon does not automatically mean that you are any of these things.
42. Carrie said:
Actually I think that last passage is very interesting -- we can see you challenging your own bias and thinking it through. You can't blame a young person for believing what she has been taught -- on the contrary you can be proud to see your young self begin thinking for yourself and challenging what you have been taught.
Most people who are taught bias and hate stay right where they started.
43. Maxine Dangerous said:
1. WHOA.
2. Cool hair! :)
3. Thank Goddess you don't think like that anymore. :)
4. Thanks, as always, for sharing. :)
44. Velma-NotDaphne said:
It is so comforting to know that other women went through this period in their lives. I was brought up in Kentucky, in a strict Southern Baptist religious environment. (Fundamentalist, much?) Throughout my teenage years I struggled with what the church and "God" were teaching, and the way that I felt, which led to tremendous guilt and shame. Growing up and in the process becoming more educated, coupled with the absence of weekly endocrination, I was able to escape that way of life...hopefully, emerging as the open-minded, thinking individual that I am today. What we are taught as truth, during those all-too important formative years, is never as genuine as what we are able to learn for ourselves.
45. Courtney P said:
It is amazing the contrast between your current self and that crazy person! I am still chuckling because it is unbelievable. Glad you really took the time to figure out who YOU were without continuing to accept the beliefs that were being forced upon you. Thanks for sharing!
46. Hilary said:
When I first read those entries, I thought you were already mocking your faith -- the rabbit as proof that God lives, Ryan as Satan, the goose-bumping flag salute. You could have written those same words today, with only a slightly different spin!
Makes me terrified to re-read my 15 years worth of diaries, yet I can't bring myself to throw them out. Someday I imagine myself bedbound, helpless to stop my children from reading them out loud.
47. Jen said:
Wow. Your gay rant made my head spin! Hilarious entries! I can't tell you how amusing it is to read this from you. I had the impression that you were always the rebel. So it gives me hope for a Catholic friend of mine who condemns her own father for his homosexuality!
P.S. What exactly are albino raindrops anyway??
48. kd @ A Bit Squirrelly said:
I am amazed how people can completely change and learn to be better. I too hope that this intoloerance and discrimination and attack on civil rights can be overturned!
49. the dalai mama said:
You have made me think about my teenage journals. I can admit to you (and your million readers) that I kept all of the notes my girlfriends wrote me in high school. I too had a little bit of crazy in me. I would be hard-pressed to put my journal entries out there for all to read. I am sure my self-loathing and destructive behavior would speak to many others out there, but don't know if I am fully embraced myself enough to share.
I applaud you and your raw honesty. It is what keeps us all reading. I think I can say with some confidence that you are the kind a person we would all be lucky to have as a friend.
50. Casey said:
I am so glad I threw out my old diaries. I can only begin to imagine what mortifying things I wrote in them.
Thank you for linking to No on Prop 8. I wish more people would just see how ridiculous it is to deny equal rights to people based only on their sexual preferences.
51. Ben said:
1) This showcases the exact reason why I threw most of my old writing away. Might be worth something some day, you say? Not likely unless I'm paying to keep it all a secret.
2) As for the gay thing, as a proud, card-carrying, able-to-marry who I please, Canadian member, I wish I could start a slow clap but I don't know if that can happen on a blog comment....
P.S. All of Canada has fallen apart as a result of allowing gay marriages. We all just dry hump maple trees and curse a lot not.
52. Jennifer said:
My parents still have almost all of my writing I did as a child. Including middle school journals I kept. I'm too embarrassed to read them.
Thanks for posting that, and about gay rights. As Chris Rock said, "Gay people have every right to be as miserable as everybody else!" (He's joking, of course.)
53. Courtney said:
LOL! Don't be so hard on yourself. We were all dipshits back then. At least you were questioning everything...something my Southern, conservative father continues to "cringe" at his 34 year old daughter doing.
54. toolazytoscrapbook said:
Haha! I am sorry, but these are funny! Makes me wish I kept a diary when I was younger! At the same time- SO glad I didn't do any such thing because I wouldn't want my teenage self to come back and haunt me. :)
I think the movie Philadelphia was a big light bulb moment for my little conservative self, too!
More diary entries, okay? Funny stuff!
55. grace said:
Wow. i shredded my journals of shame from "those days" so many years ago. "Cringe" is the only name one could give to a compilation of that kind of writing! LOL
56. Jenn said:
Thank-you for being brave enough to share that.
57. Rija said:
#11 Kristin: Our country was born on the premise of religious freedom; separation of church and state. You have your religious freedom and faith but that should not be imposed on anyone else. If I chose one rule from each religion in the United States, we could be a country with a ban on coffee, no electricity or cars, women without voting rights and children running helter skelter because use of birth control sends you straight to hell. Where should we draw the line?
58. gingela5 said:
I threw out most of my journals. Mine weren't quite as deep as yours--more along the lines of "I think so and so looked at me" or "I hate so and so--she is such a jerk."
59. Kalisa said:
Boy, I have some high school diary entries that are cringe-worthy.
Living in the south (as you once did), the problem I have with all these propositions banning gay marriage and the whole "let the people decide" argument, is that there was a time when, if you had let the people decide, interracial marriages would also have been illegal.
WTF do the people know anyway.
60. maryruth said:
honestly: there is nothing worse than that moment when we re-read our words from our youth & realize "oh my god: i was such a loser!".
it only sucks that sometimes we're normal-adolescent losers and sometimes we're way over-achieving losers with enough battle scars of embarassment to shame the most adjusted, now-normal loser back into childhood.
i remember those days. & i'm so glad they're gone.
61. Katie said:
Holy Shit. And I thought MY journal from HS was bad and all it has it crap like, "I like so-and-so." Very lame. I'm glad you've come to your senses because that is some crazy ass shit you wrote.
62. Nancy said:
Too funny. Now that you remember how biased you used to be, maybe it will help you to be more tolerant of others who are still taking the journey. I must admit that your descriptions in the past of the morman lifestyle convinced me to put Mormans in the 'whacky' category. Recently, though, I have been following the blog of a morman family whose sister and brother-in-law were in a plane crash. http://blog.cjanerun.com/ The way this large, close-knit family has supported each other and the young children of the crash victims through their faith and love has given me a new appreciation for what they believe in and practice in their daily life. It may not be totally what I suscribe to, but whatever gets you through the day--whether it be meds, faith, support of loved ones, etc
63. Molly said:
I would have punched you in the face, but I am very busy wishing someone had punched me in the face at the same age. At that age, I was studing abroad in Italy (awesome), but looking back on my journals from that year, 10 years later, I can do nothing more than cringe in absolute secondhand embarassment for myself. Bless my heart, I was an arse.
64. Turbo said:
Thing I really don't get about Prop 8 is... why do you care (those that support it)? I understand opposition or support for propositions that affect how much you'll pay in taxes, etc. but this one? no affect on you. Your perfect little marriage will still be there, just the same. There was an article in the Sacramento Bee the other day and they were talking about the Mormons around here that are giving up their life savings in support. I am sure they will still make it to the space ship behind the comet regardless of people they don't know get to enjoy the benefits of legal marriage.
As Heather said, it's a civil rights issue. So while we're at it, should we also make their votes only count 3/5ths? make them ride in the front of the bus? squirt them with fire hoses?
65. robinv said:
Once again, you are amazing!
I have kept journals since I was around 13. I have a huge box of humilation and cringe in my basement. I go back every now and then to look at who I was and how I became the me I am today. Pretty eye-opening and oh so funny.
love the Mormon hair....
66. Louise said:
Thanks for sharing that. It reminds me of my college years when I was a plaid skirt wearing, Southern Baptist, young Republican. I wish I could time travel back to those days and tell myself to get off my self-righteous high horse. I agree wholeheartedly to No on Prop. 8. We unfortunately passed something similar in Georgia. It passed with a huge margin. I have a feeling I was the only person in my town who voted no.
67. txbeardg said:
Okay. You made me cry. Happy?
It really is as simple as civil rights and taking Religion out of the equation. PERIOD. I *heart* you right now. Your writing makes me smile, makes me cry, makes me laugh. Usually all within the same paragraph. Hey, that kinda rhymes...
68. Jamie said:
After reading that - I am glad my mom got kicked out of the Mormon church(for questions some of the beliefs and teachings). Holy Good GOD DAMN, I am happy. Freaks.
69. randi said:
i think your awesome..... and it was pretty cool that you even shared that with us. hey, don't feel too bad. we all have narrow (well, most of us) veiws when we are younger and have no idea how this world works (hell, sometimes i still don't know)- oh yea... can't BELIEVE your hair was soooo long- beautiful though!!
70. Barstool Babe said:
One - I'm so glad I never kept a diary when I was a teenager! Two - I still remember how my mother did not want me to go to a particular Christian university because the daughter of a friend from church went there and "became an atheist!" But that's what happens when children leave the protection (and control) of their family and become exposed to new ideas -- they form their own opinions. For me it was the introduction to science fiction writers like Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov and a (secular) campus full of people who had different experiences from me. My ideas and beliefs are still changing 30 years later from my continuing exposure to different ideas from different people.
71. Unbalanced Libra said:
Don't worry Heather, pretty much all Christians are crazy. Hey, at least you recognized your craziness and got help
72. Kim said:
to post #32: the point is that government isn't based on religion. make your own opinions and stick to them-- even if it means passing judgment in the name of a man from cleverly written bedtime stories.
and post #28: people like you are terrifyingly ignorant. it makes me sad that you'll vote. it makes me sad that you'll open your mouth and senseless dribble will leak out of it and possibly contaminate the minds of other people who may not know better. Being gay is NOT a mental illness and even suggesting that should make you feel stupid.
73. Nicole said:
Oh my...those diary entries remind me of myself when I was still a "good christian girl" in high school and part of college...*shudder* As George Carlin put it, "I left the church when I reached the age of reason".
What scares me is that there are people out there (some one which have posted comments to this blog entry) who don't grow out of the awkward, I-know-everything, My God before your God social deformity.
It's just sad and annoying.
74. américaine en France said:
Wow. That took courage. I'm with you--and #18, and #22....
Bon courage, Dooce.
75. Spring said:
I was raised conservative Christian as well (Baptist), and, luckily, I did not keep a journal during the most embarrassing years of my UTTER ACCEPTANCE of everything that was being yelled at me from the pulpit.
The gay marriage issue is the number one reason I became such an "extreme liberal," as my mom likes to say, in my years since college. Last night in the debate McCain said that education (education? what the hell was he talking about? did I miss something here?) is the civil rights issue of our time, but I have to disagree. I believe it is gay marriage. And I wish some damn politician would out already and say "Gay marriage? OF COURSE I support gay marriage!" Because thirty years from now, I think you'll be hard pressed to find any politician who doesn't.
Which means Joe Biden is going to be mighty embarrassed that he agreed with Sarah Palin at the VP debate. Oh, Joe. It's okay to be progressive when the rights of human beings are at stake. I promise.
But. I suppose the problem is marriage itself, which has always been a religious institution. Which means it's almost impossible to take religion out of the equation. Which means you and I are going to have to sit tight just a little bit longer, I'm afraid.
76. Terp4lifedt said:
Having a husband who 6 years ago voted republican, paid his tithing,was sealed in the temple..who meet me..liberal from MA,from a biracial background,grew up that gay was normal. These days my husband votes democratic, to the disappointment to his family( we received the go back to church or else letter from his grandparents) we don't go to church and would rather raise our son with morals and spirituality that all people should not just be toleranted but loved for who they are. Oh, needless to say he's not married to the same person he was sealed to..no worries though I don't think we'll end up in the same afterlife as her. And I can proudly say my husband and I voted NO on prop 8 in our mail in ballot. My converted mother on the other hand is having moral issues with it...ya,the same women who told me from early on that same sex relationships are normal and two people regardless of sex should be in a committed relationship..my mother has been brainwashed
77. dani said:
The best, most balanced discussion of the real issues surrounding Prop 8 that I've seen are at
http://gr8prop8deb8.blogspot.com/
If you have a serious interest in this issue, you should read this blog. There's a lot more to it than the gut-reaction that most experience when the topic is brought up.
78. Lisa said:
To # 28. eouio who said:
Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder.
What century do you live in? Seriously. It's incredibly offensive that you wrote that as though people suffering from a mental disorder have less rights than those who aren't, much less that you referred to those born homosexual as a) suffering, and b) suffering from a mental disorder.
You have every right to practice your faith in the way that suits you best. You have no right to impose your beliefs on anyone else: nor does the government. This country was founded on the principle of separation between church and state, so in truth, this can only be a civil issue.
79. Drew said:
#11, #28, and #32: Believing your way is the only way is no reason to rock the boat. You know it's against the law to introduce any legislation that gives preference to one religious belief over another, right? You know that the separation of church and state applies to every state in the union, right?
You're not gay, so you won't be getting a gay marriage. And you won't be raising your kids gay, because that's not how it works. And being gay is no longer a mental disorder, Mr. eouio; welcome to 2008, by the way, it was a nice attempt at a backhanded compliment until you forgot that progress has been made since the 60s. And why are you, #32, afraid to stand up for God and write your own name?
Why can't you be content with the knowledge that you are living your life correctly, at least as you understand it? Yes, you need to try to share your love of Jesus with everyone, but deliberately causing or wishing harm on a group of people whose lifestyle you haven't chosen or don't agree with is a decidedly un-Christian thing to do.
Thank you for posting, Heather, I really enjoy your blog and seeing how even when you were 19 the same crazy poet we all know and love was scribbling away.
80. amber said:
Wow, that was like a flashback of my junior high years when I still feared the Mormon God everyday of my life. Glad that is over! Sadly ,out here in Riverton, most the people I know think just like that. It is enough to make you want to slam your head against the wall after each conversation.
Thank you for linking to this! I think people need to be reminded that this is a civil rights matter. People also need to realize that this is NOT a Christian nation, nor should it be.
There is also a web site, signforsomething.org, it is a web site for mormons, ex-mormons (me) and the general public to write letters to the head of the LDS Church about their envolvement in Prop 8.
81. Emma said:
Albino raindrops was my favorite part!! Oh you are brave for sharing this. I couldn't even read (let alone share) my diary entries from high school/college.
I have many 'recovering Mormons' in my family, including my mom. As much as I respect the religion and the great community it provides, I am SO SO SO SO glad that my mom left the church long before I came in to the picture.
82. Rebecca said:
So interesting isn't it? Your "enlightened" views at the time are very similar to the interview the church just published with Dallin H. Oaks regarding homosexuality. I guess I should be grateful that they're moving forward- one painful step at a time (maybe the First Presidency should watch Philedelphia eh? Or maybe, they did an that's why they're all "love the sinner hate the sin" an such), but truthfully, it's just offensive.
Yay for crazy. To teach us what it means to be sane.
83. abdpbt said:
Wow! You have courage for keeping the journals from that time period--I threw all of mine out because the cringe factor was so horribly strong.
I'm a Californian and voting no on 8, I have hopes that it won't pass but I've driven past some homes in my neighborhood that have actually taken the time to make their own, homemade "YES ON 8" signs and this troubles me. That's dedication to a cause. Makes me wonder who is in the closet.
84. Megan said:
The argument that religious people are ignorant, intolerant and close-minded (or was it pig-headed?) is ridiculous. You cover yourself well by saying that you're only criticizing yourself and not the religious population at large; however, it's clear to how you feel about religion. Isn't it hypocritical to be intolerant of religion because religion can be intolerant? Seems to be an argument that goes around and around.
The elitist perspective that belief in God is narrow-minded or weak-minded isn't founded. It is pure opinion, as is the religious' folks perspective that faith and hope and their beliefs gives them the right to vote morally.
People who vote for homosexual marriage do it because they believe it is the right thing to do. People who vote against homosexual marriage do it because they believe it is the right thing to do. Doesn't it all come down to beliefs? Whether religious or not?
85. Lisa said:
your post was so timely today for me, as I read the ranting and raving letter of my 10 year old daughter this morning that she had written and placed so perfectly into a box of tissues for me to find this morning. So, maybe I'll just hang onto this little gem so that when she's 30 or so, I'll show it to her and we can both laugh!
86. LB said:
This is pretty much the best thing ever. No offense, but I am amazed that you seem relatively normal now. :)
87. Anonymous said:
Yay for marriage equality!! THANK YOU for linking to No on Prop 8.
88. Jennifer said:
Carnal indulgences??
HA!
Oh I died reading that...I really did.
These are impressive entries Heather, I love that you shared them. Awesome!!
89. Amy said:
Ben #51... YOU ARE FUNNY! :) Yay Canada! Maple Trees... oh my! :)
90. Shan! said:
I'm happy to see you mentioning Prop 8 here. It's crazy how much your views have changed since college. You seem like a totally different person, the good kind. :)
91. Anita Ovolina said:
Great picture! I love to read stuff that I wrote when I was younger and sometimes it's good to see that though through different words your voice is still there (you know different topics or choice or words, meanings but the voice is there)
Gay marriage - tough one to pass but unfortunately so tight up with religion...
It would be interesting to write journals entries about it now and see after 30 years or even less what the arguments sound like......probably not very good...
92. BOSSY said:
Just the exhaustive capitalization of Heavenly Father is enough to chase Bossy from formalized religion.
93. amyz5 said:
wow. a few observations:
1. even thought the content was different (read scary as hell) your writing style is so similar it is uncanny. It is like the Heather Bizarro world. I like deprogrammed Heather much better
2. teen and college diaries are ramblings of the inner insanity and self importance of people that age. the fact that you outed yourself is kind of cool in a what the hell are you thinking sort of way.
shock value sells so what the hell.
and yes, your hair was amazing.
94. Jules said:
My friend also had journal entries that were put in this book. Actually she was a roommate of mine in College. She also noted that after she reread her journal entries she realized how bitchy she had been and apologized. Funny how silly and ridiculous we were as adolescents or young adults as we thought of ourselves.
95. Erin said:
Your journal entries are classic. Even though I was not a Mormon and did not attend a religious college, there are things I wrote in high school and college that now make me cringe. You never fail to draw the parallels in the universe for us all.
I loved the pic of you by the way, all that beautiful hair. I can just picture Leta looking at it and then addressing you as Princess Mrs. Daddy's Wife . . . followed by an adamant request to never cut her hair again.
96. karen said:
Heather, at least you knew what "gay" was at that age. My diaries around that time were full of entries trying to explain why I like hugging girls so darn much.
97. Jess said:
Thanks for the No on Prop 8 link.
One word: Religulous.
I think you've nailed it here.
98. MrsBug said:
OMG. That reads like my diary at that time in my life. It is too painful for me to go back and read that stuff, although I'd never throw them out. I swear I wrote with a style that I must have though meant I was the second coming of Virginia Woolf or something. Oh, the embarrassment.
I too grew up in a very conservative (Assembly of God) home and have had my head cracked open by God so that abortion and gay marriage are no longer the black-n-white issues they were. I actually am pro-choice and pro-gay marriage now. And I'm still a Christian. Some would think that's matter/anti-matter combo, but truly, it's not. And they say people can't change! Ha!
99. Lester Sue said:
I saw Mortified in San Francisco a year or so ago and my gut hurt from laughing so much, my soul hurt from recognizing the 80's angst so much. I'm THRILLED you are a contributor to the book. Thank you for always sharing yourself!!!
100. Loran said:
Stopped lurking to write a comment--I love your blog. You are crazy in a good way now--posting teenage diary entries?? whoa. Don't know if I want to do that or not, but I have plenty of material stashed in the basement...And like many others, love the hair!
I too have very conservative parents who are wondering where in the hell they went wrong and how did they end up with a damn liberal for a daughter!
101. Cheney said:
I must say, all things considered, you had quite beautiful hair at that time of your life.
102. Becky..Absent Minded Housewife said:
Heather, you are a braver woman than I. Never ever ever will I scan and post my pathetic teeny bopper diary entries or a photo of me at age 14 with a highly gelled and very short poodle perm.
Sitting out here in the apostacy that is Bendover, NV, I get excused for being for gay marriage by my Utah County buddies. I'm blinded by neon, dontcha know. (And what's hilarious is that this comment was interrupted by a phonecall from the missionaries.)
My older sister and her GAY, VERY GAY, partner have just purchased a house in Utah County suburbia. Oh I worry about that. But, on the other hand, it could be taken as a sign that things are a changin', even in the land of BYU.
103. Megan said:
1) So, as always - thank you Heather for your limitless & self-deprecating honesty!! As a daughter of a gay man who spent my high school years in a Baptist school in the South...I have a somewhat unique perspective on the issues. I was always the "liberal" among my friends though so my writings from high school are mortifying in a completely different way =) But I so thank you for your ability to show the transition that we all (hopefully) go through as we enter adulthood and begin questioning what we have been taught in order to learn what we truly believe.
2) Though others have responded to this quite well already, I would like to follow in their footsteps and respond to Kristin:
Separation of church & state is precisely what allows you to embrace your religion so completely. If government were given the right to impose laws based solely on religious precepts or given the right to mandate a national religion - this would infringe upon your religious rights, as there is no guarantee that the government's religion would match your faith. You, as a result of free will, choose to believe in your faith, just as everyone else has been given that same choice to make - and it is not one that the government can or should make for you.
104. Meg said:
As a Christian I must be really sinning b/c I read your blog. Oh the Horror! How open-minded of me; who would have thunk that a Christian could actually step outside the box?
I may not always agree with you but love your writing. And, FWIW, I don't believe Mormons are Christians. I think its a cult. We may not agree on everything. How boring would that be! But you have helped me in more ways than you know, Heather.
Great writing.
105. feathermaye said:
I'm pretty much of the opinion that if you remove religion from MOST issues, they would no longer be issue.
But to so clearly display to us that you overcame The Crazy and The Religion, and actually experienced growth only serves to remove the idea that you are NOT like the characters on TV who never evolve or become better people.
Thanks for bursting my bubble. Seriously.
106. BlueLikeTheSky said:
Heather, the Mormons certainly don't have a monopoly on this. Your diary reads like Bible Belt girl stuff. I had a college roommate, a transfer to Small Liberal Arts College from Large Baptist University, who would pray for her lost checkbook instead of look for it.
Why'd she leave "LBU" (NOT Liberty, BTW) ? Little breakdown when she walked in on her "good Christian Boyfriend," so good he'd never "tried anything ungentlemanly" with her, kissing another boy.
She really found the CRAZY.
I'm so very glad you lost it!
107. Laurel said:
I was reading some of my teen diaries while packing for a move, and one entry about an argument I'd had with a high school friend made me laugh out loud. I wrote, "I will NEVER forget what Amelia did to me." Of course I had no recollection of the incident. Oh, THE DRAMA.
108. Andrea said:
Ha, you said "blatant fornication". That's freaking hilarious!
109. Z said:
I was almost too astonished by the albino raindrops to keep reading. Bless your young heart, you must have been so pleased with the imagery. If I'd kept a diary at that age, I'd be keeping it to myself now, so congratulations for sharing it and letting us raise our eyebrows for one reason or another.
And not all Christians think that homosexuality is a sin. Some of us are a bit bemused that so many who hold a religious faith are so interested in other people's sex lives and sexuality. I'm as annoyed by Christians who profess to speak in my name as by those who hate Christianity on principle, as if it matters to them what I believe.
And the hair, gosh, the hair. I feel strangely jealous.
110. poomaster said:
Wow now that is one hell of a picture. This is one of the reasons I have never personally kept a picture of myself. Everyone is crazy in there own way I never took crazy pills but maybe I should be http://pooplatter.com . Without crazy people where would the world be?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It would probably be no where the greatest minds are crazy or insane by definition. Everyone else is more like a social drone going from day to day.
111. Anonymous said:
I wrote terrible things in high school, too. I wouldn't have the nerve to publish mine.
I scrolled back up to find the handwritten words "blatant fornication." :)
112. Megan said:
Regarding gay marriage, I once heard someone say:
I don't think the world's biggest problem is two people who love each other so much that they want to spend the rest of their lives together.
That about sums it up.
113. Katrina said:
I used to be a right-wing fundie. Even went to a QUAKER high-school. When I first stepped out into the real world (college!) I met a new group of friends. One of them asked me what I thought about gay people. I TOTALLY knew the answer to this one! Jumped right up onto my soap box and started spouting off the lines my teachers 'n' preachers taught me to say. Felt good, felt all self-righteous, right up until the point when one of the guys burst into tears and walked away.
There was a bit of awkward silence before someone blurted out, "He's gay."
Right then and there I reexamined what I'd been taught. Homosexuals weren't evil, weren't "of the devil", they were real honest-to-gosh people just like me. I'm pretty sure that was the point when I started to realize that being a christian wasn't for me. If I couldn't love ALL people, no matter what, I didn't want to be a part of it.
xoxo
katrina
114. Lauren said:
More than anything I was SUPER DUPERLY proud of the journey you've made. And think it takes a lot of balls to say to the whole entire internet (no pressure) that you were once this and now you're that. It gives me hope that people can change and that the cycle of ignorance doesn't have to continue regardless of background.
Nice hair though. Wow.
115. Anonymous said:
Kristen - your religion should not dictate if other people can marry each other or not.
Your religion can tell you not to be gay but it can't tell someone else.
116. TheSpectrum said:
My favorite line: "They, too, are human beings with real human emotion and real human moms and dads."
You don't say!!
This is totally hilarious. In 7th grade, I wrote a poem in defense of OJ Simpson. What??
117. Edward said:
Awesome post. Your website is as much part of my day as brushing my teeth or needing to pee.
Entertaining as always and thanks for supporting my right to marry.
118. Sanderai said:
Heather...
I have commented on only a few occasions, usually to remark at your humor or add a few names for a friends dog. But today I had to comment to say that I resonate with your experience with religiosity. I have a deep and abiding faith, but have had to really look at the way that religious culture alienates people and hinders the very idea of community that all "the good books" talk about us entering into... I've come under a good deal of scrutiny for starting to question the assumptions (just yesterday I was blogged about for this reason) and be vocal about the harm many are experiencing at the hands of those who are called to love.
I've journaled since I was 13... my logs of life from then til now have been interesting mile markers to consider as I strive to grow in the years to come. I'm glad you shared yours, I was provoked toward contemplation.
Best of everything,
Michelle
119. Under Sundog said:
OOOOH! But what made Karen an agent of Satan?
I like to imagine her with one of those McDonald's-size lattes in one hand and a crack pipe in the other.
120. Caitlin said:
OH. MY. I happened to dig up my diary from 7th grade a few weeks ago, and that was apparently a pretty angsty year. From what I could glean from the scribbled mess, being 5'11" when I was 12 did me no favors in middle school.
I went to high school with a Mormon friend who spent most of his first hour for four years telling me that I was hell-bound if I didn't change my stance on gay rights, abortion, etc. etc. He was pretty pleasant aside from the condemning me constantly thing.
I absolutely love your blog. You give me and my husband plenty of laughs. By the way, we watched the Ben Bernanke video, and it seems that we are a match made in weird heaven.
121. Christina said:
There is no way that is your real hair...there is no way that could be anyone's real hair??? is it???
122. kniquii said:
Listen, everyone who's been bashing comments #11, 28 and 32, obviously you haven't considered the extreme consequences of supporting gay marriage. A conservative commentator made the following excellent argument against gay marriage:
"So if we allow gay marriage, what's to prevent a gay guy from sneaking into my house while I'm asleep and just gay marrying me?"
-Stephen Colbert-
Would you want that to happen to YOU? HMM?
But honestly, we don't take the dangers of anything seriously enough, anymore. Just look at this link: http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/bread.asp
And I thought bread was safe. Rookie error.
123. Becky said:
Actually, the essential you hasn't changed. Many people slog through the years without thinking much about how to apply the principles of right and wrong to what they do in their daily lives. Your old journals show that you were always a critical thinker who struggled to incorporate your beliefs into your actions, and who used writing as a tool to figure it all out.
You're still doing that. It's just that along the way, your beliefs became bigger and kinder, and your writing began to allow you the room to laugh--at yourself first--so many people can't--so that your laughter at the foibles of others would be the laughter of commiseration, not mockery.
124. Carrie said:
Those entries make me thrilled that I didn't keep a diary.
And also, AZ has one - No on AZ 102, please! There are enough things to hate about this state without adding constitutionalized bigotry.
125. Amanda said:
Hey #71...stereotype much? Way to show how open minded you are!
126. Anonymous said:
really interesting insight into your mormon days.
127. Rob said:
I am sure you are going to have some smart response but here goes anyway: You don’t agree with your former church any more, GET OVER IT! Move on, get a life, make your own decisions stop living in the past. Are you so desperate to sell this site that you feel the only way you can get readers is to continue to bash religion? What a unique idea!
Are we supposed to feel sorry for you because your church ruined your life? Wait maybe it was your severely deranged parents that totally ruined your life?
Last time I looked you travel the US, have a nice house, and really aren’t suffering for anything you want. Poor, poor Heather. I wish I could sit at home all day and spend 2 hours a day writing a blog entry and drive my kids to school and pick them up every day.
I laugh at all the commercialism on this site...how many things are for sale? And yet you are not selling out, you are just keeping it real, its all about a Mom who suffers with depression and finds a way to cope right? HA! You sure have a tough life with 1 kid and that terrible church that mercilessly persecutes you EVERY DAY. And oh that horrible snow, I am sorry dear princess that the weather isn't 80 and sunny every day. How do you survive? Oh the horror of going shopping with 1 child. How do you manage!?!? Have you hired help yet? Someone to clean your house or watch your child so you can have some 'alone' time?
The only real thing about this site is that it pays for your very comfortable life.
Now I am sure your ‘fans’ will flock to your defense. They will tell you how perfect you are and how stupid this post is. Gee, you could call that the church of Heather and maybe get classified as a charity! Oh speaking of which, its so noble of you to give $20 to a homeless person. That totally makes you a philanthropist! Why don’t you use some of your power as a web persona to create a charity to help Mothers who are experiencing the same issues you do? Or are you too busy designing the next product to sell on your site?
Now lets hear all about how you know how tough real life is because you lived in LA and got fired once……
Once upon a time there lived a princess…….
128. Kay said:
You are so brave to publish the skeletons in your closet. I have been a journaling fiend since 1996 and the crap I wrote back then is so shaming to me sometimes... but I like to see where I have been and it helps me to listen to others and not judge them because they will be different in another year or two. I just love the fact that I am not the only one who delt with THE CRAZY in my life and that we all can gorw up and get over ourselves. Love you and your blog!
129. suewanda said:
This is ENLIGHTENING.
Look what a big girl you've grown up into, Heather. I only know you from Dooce, but what a difference.
It makes me feel like there is hope and promise for some of those who still may feel this way.
Rock your vote, America and get some change goin' on down there.
signed a friendly canadian, sue
130. Mindy Braun said:
This is why I burned my college journal(s) many years ago. I was mortified by some of the shit I wrote. I never kept a journal in high school for fear my brother or sister or parents would find it.
I sometimes wish I had it back, to reread some things, but I'd be mortified all over again and take the same spy-mantra. Destroy all evidence!
Now, I have a blog instead. Hmmm....
131. 3baybchicks said:
Bravo! Although I must say you have probably changed more than most, it is great that you can look back on your college self/experiences and laugh. As a completely new reader and non-follower of your writing, I must say that I really enjoyed this.
PS: Whatever did you do with all your luscious locks of hair? Was it cut off in one fell swoop or gradually over time? I am curious...is there a story lurking in that hair?
132. Denise said:
Diary entries are hysterical, aren't they? I read mine and just laugh. OTOH....Mormons are NOT hysterical. They are scary!!! My ex-husband was a Mormon. A smoking and drinking Mormom, but a Mormon, nonetheless. While he was cool, his crazy Mormon family was too bizzare for words. I don't miss any of them now....expecially that wacko-family of his! I never want to be near that much weirdness again!
133. AnEmily said:
I just really want to marry albino raindrops now.
134. Angela said:
Even when you take religion out of the issue - marriage was never just between 2 people who loved each other. Marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman.
Your journal entries are awesome Heather. Thanks for sharing.
135. yunomi said:
#11
There is a seperation between church and state. Plain and simple. Why this is even a question at this point in time is mind blowing. Since when did a religion dictate one's civil liberties?
136. Word Perv said:
Wow. It is scary how brainwashed you were. I mean, completely and utterly brainwashed...
137. Karen said:
I love hearing from straight people who really care about this problem. I think if even half the people who say "I don't really care if gay people want to get married, what does it matter to me?" would get up the gumption to care a little that we CAN'T, this issue would be settled rather quickly.
138. ellen said:
hahaha! the diary entries from my baptist period are the ones of which i'm most ashamed. the entries were riddled with guilt and self-hatred about the most innocent youthful things, and yet i had zero guilt about the truly hateful opinions i had toward others. it was all regurgitated robot-speak i'd been taught in my youth group. it's amazing how much i have changed, and i like this version of myself a whole lot better. i'm glad i'm not the only one - thanks for sharing!
139. the almost right word said:
So glad that you mentioned Prop 8 and the fact that it is a civil rights issue. It deserves more attention in that matter, and you are certainly one to get it!
140. Jessica said:
Heather, I am so with you on having to look back with the same mortification of the world inside my head growing up. I read your blog because I can relate, and because you capture the humor and horror of looking back at who I was, along with the gratefulness of how much clearer I've gotten since. Thanks.
141. bubbo said:
pfffft good luck marrying your dogs! I'm gonna pass a law saying only I can marry your dogs! We'll make a giant reality show about it and the finale will be the beautiful beautiful wedding.
Loved the journal entries. I've never been good at keeping a regular journal, but when I go back and read my attempts...whoo I can be a total weenus on the page.
142. Elizabeth Marie said:
This is a really really good point. My family is all Mormon and (having been born and raised in Utah) I grew up placing stock in ignorant -fear based - beliefs such as this. Gay marriage is just as sacred as straight marriage and anyone that loves someone else enough to want to spend their life with them should be allowed to get married. I don't think that's too much to ask.
143. Annemie said:
Just writing to say how your growth - from "ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent" to the person you are today - gives me hope for Americans and humans in general. Whenever I encounter such narrow-mindedness, my first instinct is to run the hell away... it seems completely impossible that someone so entrenched could ever come around to reason. You're living proof that they can. Thank god.
144. Anu said:
I think your last journal entry actually shows that despite your conservative upbringing you were still willing to question the ideals of your faith and not blindly accept them. You should be proud of yourself for thinking about issues larger than you at a time when self-obsession is the norm.
145. Heather said:
And this is why I am no longer mormon either!
146. draper mom said:
Can I just say, I love you...and that's in a completely sane, heterosexual, admiring way. You make me laugh. And one should never revisit old journal entries without A LOT of wine.
147. courtenay said:
i threw out ALL my college journals (threw out meaning BURNED, RIPPED AND SHREDDED) when my first child was maybe 2. i just couldn't risk dying and having him find that stuff. it was very similar to yours. but with much more detail of the crazy that is an emotional college girl.
148. Kristan said:
Love the concept of the book!
To be honest, I think you're being too hard on yourself. What I saw in that last entry was that even through your struggles, the CORE of you was there and strong. You had compassion when you were taught to have none. You questioned when you were ordered to obey. Those are things to be proud of.
The "albino raindrops" are kind of inexcusable, though... :P
149. Anonymous said:
I agree with comment #41. Having returned to being a Mormon in my late 30s, I can honestly say that that choice was made because it is right for me, yet I understand that it is not right for everyone. What concerns me with your post is your general stereotyping and categorizing of those in the Mormon faith.
Living in Washington, DC and having experienced the world through my travels and experiences, I feel that I am neither ignorant nor naive, so it bothers me to be lumped into that category. Most of us have friends who are not of our faith or belief system and we are completely capable of being both nonjudgmental and tolerant.
150. Sheila said:
I love that little girl who wrote these journal entries. She was genuinely struggling with the way she was expected to behave, the world she wanted to believe in and all the contradictions that she faced. It is a very special thing that even today that little girl didn't give up her struggle to be genuine.
During my first date in 9th grade, I was sure that my date was going to try to have sex with me. But I was going to be strong and firmly keep my precious virginity. Poor Andrew. He had no idea who he was dealing with!
151. Amanda said:
What a gorgeous waterfall of golden locks! Last year at my 10-year HS reunion, I pulled some righteous Catholic ruminations from the reunion trunk - things that I wrote when I was 15. I CANNOT BELIEVE the intolerant person I used to be. I couldn't even read the whole thing - too cringe-worthy! Which is why I think making these old journal entries public is kind of brave of you, Heather.
152. Therese said:
Well, Heather, we all know that loving (and here we mean LOVVVVING) a human being of the same sex is the same thing as loving (LOVVVVING) an animal.
You know, kind of like chocolate is the same thing as poop.
153. Sue said:
Oh. Me too. Luckily I don't have a written record of how judgmental and ridiculous I was as a teen and young adult, but I too am totally mortified by what and how I used to think.
When my sister got engaged to a guy who was a convert to the LDS church (not a non-member, a CONVERT), instead of telling her congratulations I told her I was very concerned. I thought she should pray about it, because marrying a convert was TOTALLY RISKY because it might not stick. OY. I don't know why she still speaks to me. Maybe because I eventually stopped being such a jackass.
154. Katy said:
11. Kristin said:
"If you take religion out of the equation, THERE IS NO ISSUE."
But for those of us who base our lives and morality on our faith, we cannot take religion out of the equation. It's part of who I am, the thing on which I try and base every choice, every motivation. Telling me to just forget what I believe in regards to this subject is in its own way, intolerant."""""""""""
So much for the constitution, Kristin.
Unfortunately, you have to share this country with people like myself who think your God is full of crap. Keep it out of policy making, because, SURPRISE! Not everybody worships baby Jesus. Some people are Jewish, some are *gasp* Muslim, some are Hindus, some are Sikh, some worship Flying Spaghetti Monster and the only way to work in all of our interests is to keep god out of the laws of this country.
BTW, Heather, Satan and I think you are awesome.
155. Alexbettylou said:
Apparently there are some non-religious people out there not lovin' the gay marriage thing. I think they're called 'prudes', people who get clammy hands after their kids see a man kissing another man in the street and want to know why. The people who think men should only love other men behind closed doors. Do you have Heinz Deli Mayo in America? Heinz caused an uproar in the UK after an advert showed two men posing as a married couple, showing us how much bigotry there still is, even in a time when Civil Partnership is legalised. And Heinz pulled the advert, further exacerbating the bigots belief that they are in the right. I feel pure FURY!
http://alexbettylou.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/mayonnaise-for-gays/
156. Robin said:
As a young college professor, I have to say that if I ever had a student IN COLLEGE with this worldview, you can bet I would start a blog so I could talk about HOW MUCH CRAZY there is and HOW MUCH IT HURTS.
Thanks for posting these - I could talk a lot of shit about how annoying I was when I was young, goth, and elitist, but I doubt I'd have the ovaries to actually post journal pages to prove it.
You should start a program to send BYU students to LA with prozac and see what happens.
157. Trickygringo said:
I've was always told that I can't possibly be a Mormon because I don't talk or act like one. I haven't been for 5 years but I don't have any of the anger so many others do. Maybe because I never was lock-step, hated all church activities, etc. Although I did end up learning fluent Spanish in a foreign country. But I have to agree that it is very disappointing to see the LDS church so blatantly get involved in a political issue. Religious belief really is the only reason to oppose gay marriage.
BTW racism is the only reason this is an issue at all. Marriage licenses were instituted as a requirement if you wanted to have an interracial marriage. As civil rights issues progressed, instead of doing the right thing by abolishing marriage licenses, they required everyone to get them.
If government hadn't entrenched itself into marriage we never would have this problem to begin with, at least not from a legal standpoint. As usual, government ruins whatever it gets involved with.
158. FirstLady said:
To # 28. eouio who said:
Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder.
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So......gay people should be free to marry each other then. As far as I know, people with mental health issues are free to marry each other.
159. Kimberly said:
I think you should reconsider marrying your dogs. It would appear, since you are married to a human, that by marrying even one of your dogs you would then be labeled a polygamist mormon. Blog your way out of that one. I can feel the hate mail coming.
160. Greta said:
OMG - it's amazing to read how much you've changed. I haven't changed nearly that much in my life.
Glad you did though.
161. Orange said:
Heather, you're going straight to hell for being a polygamous dog-marrier. This post may well be cited by the bluenoses who get their knickers in a twist over same-sex marriage and the "slippery slope." Maybe you should edit the post to clarify that you were kidding for those who are unable to understand humor?
162. Jessi said:
It terrifies me that people like eouio (#28) exist. Regardless of how you feel about this issue, that was an ignorant thing to say, and I certainly hope you don't actually speak that way.
163. Laura B.B. said:
re: gay marriage. If someone's against gay marriage, I suggest not marrying someone of the same gender. That's really the only possible way it's ever going to affect one directly. Any other complaints towards it (even those religiously based) are bigotry, plain and simple.
When Canada legalized it, they didn't devolve into into a hedonistic state of polygamy or bestiality, they didn't fight a civil war or religious revolution, and the role of religion did not diminish within people's individual lives. What do people really think is going to happen if gay people have the right to marry other gay people? I'm genuinely curious.
164. SEL said:
Heather,
Wow. That's some crazy alright. Don't beat yourself up over it though... Be grateful that you still have the actual diary to look back on as a reminder of how much you've evolved! I only wish I could do the same... But I shredded and tossed my high school diary after my mother found and read it in its entirety... I vowed never to write in one again...
165. Jessica said:
I like the last journal entry the best. Cracks are beginning to form in your old way of thinking. You recognize that homosexuals are human like you, and acknowledge that maybe they cannot help their feelings. The struggle between your prior way of thinking and your current way of thinking is visible.
166. Allison said:
I just wanted to say this -
"And don't even get me started on the slippery slope end of the argument, because you know the only reason I'm writing this is because I want to legally marry my dogs. Both of them."
MADE.MY.DAY! I will be laughing all my way to the polls when I vote NO ON 8!
167. cass said:
on the gay marriage issue...
i actually have no qualms with gay marriage as far as the state is concerned (which is weird considering that i'm a southern baptist, texas born and raised, wannabe mormon in high school kind of kid). all that to say that my following question is pure curiosity, not me protecting some "hetero-only" sort of view or anything.
can we also say that the only reason people would deny polygamists equal rights is a religious one (as long as it's all consensual or what not)?
168. Alyssa said:
I am so glad you mentioned proposition 8. Living in Utah I was wondering when you would. I am still a member of the church (one of those cynical "did they really just tell another praying to find their bunny story from the pulpit" types) and I often struggle with the Mormon culture, but this stuff with prop 8 has been particularly upsetting to me. It has been a non-stop battle with all of my friends since the church stupidly decided to take an official stance on the issue. Seeing these journal entries gives me hope, though... that one day even the most ignorant and naive of my Mormon friends may grow up to be a liberal f-bomb dropping hardcore blogger! Haha
169. Kristin said:
My, my, how an honest thought on my part has stirred up such responses! Guess that's what I invited for daring to have a different opinion on a site read predominantly by those more politically liberal than I. ;-)
For the record, I do believe that the church and politics should be entirely separate things - for the protection of both entities. HOWEVER. Our government IS dealing with the definition of marriage and how it affects our population economically, which happens to be a political issue. And as a citizen of said country, I'm allowed to have an opinion on the issue. And regardless of WHY I believe so, I believe marriage's definition should remain between one woman and one man. (Incidentally, to those with comments such as 'Your religion can tell you not to be gay but it can't tell someone else.' I am not saying our government shouldn't let its people be gay - my, the civil rights violations there. My opinion is that they shouldn't define that relationship as marriage.) If you believe differently then you are fully within your rights to have such that opinion. If we're going to deal with the issue as a country, why do so many of you think that only those who support gay marriage should be allowed to contribute their opinions?
This ends my participation in the debate. I'm not one for going round and round and round with others when we all know that we're not going to change the others' minds!
170. Jennsa said:
Wow....all this crazy and only a day after learning your middle name is Brooke. YOU ARE BLOWING MY MIND!
171. Mossie said:
No on 8, indeed!
Thanks for the link and the social/political posts lately.
Anyone can change their political views. It's a tragic myth that one can (or should) change their sexual orientation.
More love, yes? Except for that slippery canine love.
172. elizabeth said:
I had the shittiest day yesterday, as in something really bad happened to my completely awesome four year old kid, and I just wanted you to know that reading your teenage crazy has just erased all the angst and horror and awful memories of all the stupid things I did and said during those same stupid years in my life*. Which I think is why you shared it in the first place- so, um, thanks for sharing.
*which as someone previously mentioned was a new england sort of gin, sex, and philosophy soaked edition of your whole god/satan thing.
173. Eka said:
Thanks for writing a blog that doesn't take it self to seriously and that makes me laugh. You put yourself out there and and risk getting blasted by the internet community, but every time it happens you manage to bounce back. Thanks for taking the risk and making us laugh.
174. Emily said:
Would people who are against gay "marriage" be in support of eliminating "marriage" from Government's hands entirely and leaving "marriage" to the various religions? What if everyone, gay or straight, filed for a civil union to be recognized by the state. Would that shut the religious freaks up?
I'm so utterly confused by the big deal over a word. As I understand it, gay people want the same rights as straight people insofar as the Government is involved and don't give two shits about whether Heavenly Father or Allah or Jesus approve of their GOVERNMENTAL UNION. And for the record, why the Department of Health has any business in my love life is beyond me...
175. Rachel said:
Since a handful of comments already say what I wanted to convey, I will only add this:
I have the right to my opinion, just like anyone else. And if, because my religious views are a part of who I am as a person (I cannot separate them from myself), I have the right to vote against the things in which I do not believe. That is what a democracy is. If everyone votes the way they believe and I am outnumbered, then fine. But I got to vote my conscience. It's not about me pushing what I believe on others; it's about my right to vocalize and vote based on what I believe.
I know I'm in the minority for my conservative values on this site, and that's okay. I would just ask that you don't label me an inferior or as an intolerant person just because my belief system does not align with yours.
176. Anonymous said:
1 question, 1 comment for you:
1. How have you moved your views so far to the other side over the course of your life? That is remarkable. I know many people with the same kind of crazy views as kids - their views have gotten even more exaggerated as adults.
2. In the last entry it seems like you're exploring an alternate way of thinking. Looks like you're questioning your silly kid ways.
177. Laura B.B. said:
p.s. Albino raindrops and barney valentines card FTW!
178. Emily said:
Rachel and Kristin - you both have the right to vote the way you want to. What you do NOT have the right to do, according to the Constitution of this country (which Mormons believe was divinely inspired), is vote to restrict certain civil rights. I fully believe that even if Prop 8 passes, this will soon come in front of the US Supreme Court, and your vote will be determined unconstitutional.
As far as being intolerant - if you are not tolerant of gay marriage, what do you call that?
179. Sarah said:
But, is Karen still your friend?
Funny, over Thanksgiving (canadian) this past weekend I brought some boxes from my parents house that contained old diaries - yup, from 28 yrs ago. They were written when I was 15 up to about 18. They don't even come CLOSE to how you write .. lordy you had skill, even if you think it was b.s. I wrote shit like, I had "xyz" for supper today, yummy; or: I rode my horse today - WOW, thrilling. So ya, you may think you were Crazy but I think you were a writing genius, seriously great stuff.
180. Kim said:
OMG I adore you. The coolest part about this - not just your hair - but the fact that you're willing to show that one can recover from such complete bullshit such as this and become a normal, productive member of society. I think it's really important that you shared it, even though you know you're going to be slammed by the idiots out there who still actually feel that way.
And now I think we should all take a moment of silence, put our hands over our genitals, and say the Pledge of Allegiance to GLBTQQ of America and those who fornicate, masticate, and marry our children/animals/gay lovers...
(Isn't it weird that my spam comment word was "Temple"?)
181. Anonymous said:
What fine penmanship you have!
182. Katy said:
Polygamists like Warren Jeffs hurt women and children.
Marrying off a 13 year old to a man chosen for her is wrong. It's rape, child abuse and sexist.
Now, between consenting adults, that is a different story, even if it is completely gross and sexist.
183. Alexbettylou said:
To Comment number 28:
"Kudos and agreement to Kristen (#11) above.
I love the blog and enjoy following your family a bit...
Couldn't disagree more about most things political, social, or religious though.
Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder."
I live with a 'mentally disordered' (gay) couple. And yes, they are completely devoid of their sensibilities - they are loving, kind, hilariously funny, generous, thoughtful, hard working, shining examples of human beings - I agree, they need psychological help...
DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU REALLY EXIST? REALLY??? REEEEALLY?! Save your hatin' for, say, serial killers, rapists, racists, people who make our society ugly. Because the couple I live with brighten my life - not because they are gay, because they are nice people. Nice people I love to be around.
184. Christine said:
In that last journal entry, I don't see a "ignorant, intolerant, pig-headed adolescent." I see a teenager with a big heart, trying to fit the worldview she learned growing up into the world she's experiencing as an adult. I think it was brave of that young Heather to explore new and kinder thoughts about "homosexuals," given the views she was raised with.
185. Anonymous said:
"Do you really believe what you believe is real?" I think this is the one question we all have to ask ourselves at some point. We all believe in something...the real question is how real that is- this is my current assignment.
186. Amy J. said:
Heather,
I only have one issue with this post, which is really ironic because I am an atheist. I think you and Jon both are really intolerant of people's religion. While I am definitely one who shudders at such beliefs with complete and utter confusion, I don't really go around chastising people for those beliefs. In this post it was a bit unsettling to read you be so hard on yourself for beliefs that you were raised with and much of your family still holds. I think there is a lack of respect in a way for yourself and them there that I'm not sure about.
I know religion can be stifling. It is one of the main reasons I never have ascribed to it myself. But faith and the church give people a footing and a balance much of the time that I do respect. It's just always been my experience that as long as I respect people's choices regarding faith, that they often times respect my choice of not having any. I am surrounded by believers. They all worry for my soul, sure, lol...but not once has any of them treated me as if I was less of a person or ignorant or whatever. I may feel however I feel about what they believe, but I would NEVER ever tell them. I think that is extremely disrespectful.
A good example, my sister in law just lost her son to suicide. Just yesterday, she called me on the phone and told me in depth about how she was reading her Bible for hours, talking to the Holy Spirit and trying her best to not be a sinner. She knows I am an atheist. To hear her say to me that she knew she'd been a sinner her entire life and felt, perhaps, that losing her son was punishment from God...and that she MUST do everything she can do be "good" now or else she'll be kept from ever seeing her son again, was just about the hardest thing I've ever had to sit and listen to. But, I didn't say a word. I affirmed her feeling that she'd been visited by a spirit...either the Holy Ghost or her son. I told her that she would feel him with her...that she would see him again some day. I don't honestly believe these things myself...or at least I admit I don't know...but I would have never EVER told her she was nuts. Maybe she is Heather. Maybe you were. Or maybe, JUST maybe you weren't. No one knows for sure. And no one can or should tell another that they are wrong or stupid or whatever for feeling those things.
Right now that woman is grieving in a way most of us hope to never ever experience...the loss of her child. She hanging on by a thread to just be able to live herself...telling me she felt guilt to even breathe, eat or be happy at all now that he is gone. If she wants me to pray with her, even with my lack of faith, I will get down on my hands and knees and honor her beliefs because I should. I did at his funeral and I will.
I find it hard to figure out if you have any faith at all or you are an atheist yourself, or simply agnostic. All I know is that the Mormon faith really effed you and Jon over in terms of your views on faith and other's views on faith. You guys aren't just miffed...you are pissed. I don't have a reason for my lack of faith. I never was religious...decided I was an atheist at the age of 11 actually.
Anyway, I will have to throw a wrench into your thought that those who oppose Prop 8 must just be religious. Actually I don't oppose it because, well, I'm not a resident of California. They can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned. I have no prejudices at all against homosexuality, but I don't think it should be mandated legally or otherwise by the government. I think the government has no role in those sorts of things, or rather shouldn't. Not for homosexuals or heterosexuals. I see no reason why it should be part of the government's role in our lives. I guess for legal reasons people want it to be. But I don't think it should be made part of law or any state constitutions or whatever. Once social issues start becoming mandated on either side, you open the door up for mandates on social issues that affect you and me and, well, everyone. Not in our best interest, any of us, no matter what you believe. I know there are those who believe God doesn't "cover" those who are homosexual. But just like the fact that there are those who are conservative versus liberal, Jew versus Muslim, lovers of chocolate versus vanilla...it's all personal opinion. And in this country, at least for now, people have a right to their views. I for one, no matter how much I personally disagree, think that is the way it should be.
You really should look at your view of what tolerance really is. It encompasses more than just someone's sexual preferences. But, of course, that is just my opinion.
187. Jen said:
I tried to explain the last point in your post to a friend of mine the other day. I may be part of a religion that I am active in (Catholic) but I don't agree with their view on this law. If I do remember correctly there is supposed to be separation of church and state (I live in Utah so that last sentence was actually really difficult for me to type without laughing.) Marriage is supposed to be a legal, binding contract and many people also believe it is a religious contract, myself included. BUT, not everyone is religious or they don't feel religion should play a part in their marriage. So why are we tying a religious background to a legal contract? It baffles me. There is no reason two people who love eachother shouldn't be able to marry... no matter what sex the two people are.
188. kathy said:
Heather,
Thanks. I just made a donation to "No to Prop 8." Your link spurred me to take action on an issue about which I feel strongly too.
189. Rachel said:
Emily,
I would not vote against anyone's civil rights -- i do happen to believe that gay people should have civil rights, just not recognized by the law as "married." That's not what I meant by my comment at all. I'm simply stating that on divided issues, my vote counts just as much as yours, and I have a right to vote how I want to vote.
And as far as intolerance goes, you seem to be "intolerant" of my stance against gay marriage, so using your logic, every person who disagrees with someone else is intolerant.
190. Molly said:
Thank you for sharing that. It's embarassing and frustrating to me that I have rights that some of my friends don't. I've happily already cast my vote as NO on Prop 8.
191. seve said:
"I want to legally marry my dogs."
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
192. tracey said:
Heather. Your diary entries are freaking hilarious and you must post one a week. Seriously.
193. gargravarr said:
woot - mormonism and beastiality in the same post - good luck with *that* hate mail!
i was raised by a politician in a non-religious home whilst being sent to an anglican-christian school - so i have a pretty cynical outlook on certain things. yet i still, always, find myself battling predjudice.
28. eouio
"Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder."
homosexuality isn't a mental disorder, and one doesn't 'suffer' from it.
i do however suffer with my mental disorder, unfortunately it seems to attract few rights.
i love that you were questioning your 'beliefs' before you even realised. the sign of a true human being.
194. J Adamthwaite said:
It takes a lot of courage to post something like this. You are remarkably honest and open; I wish I were this brave!
195. Shawn Hansen said:
Heather,
Thank you for the link to NO on PROPOSITION H8 and for the support: it makes the hair in that picture all better. ;-)
I find it interesting that few people seem to consider marriage for what it has been historically: a business deal. The concept of love as part of the union of marriage is a late twentieth century ideal. Before this, women were owned by their fathers (or eldest brother in the case of a father’s death), and when married off, the woman was owned by her husband.
Who knows what a dowry is? Anyone heard of arranged marriages? How many of you are old enough (i.e. 40+) to recall a time your own MOTHER didn’t have permission to access the family bank account or have her own line of credit? (D-I-V-O-R-C-E?) Yes, let’s preserve that glorious (asylum?) institution. (All of this stuff was/is sanctioned by many churches--can I get a hallelujah?)
I wish the homophobes would stop pretending marriage is some sacred thing that creates familial perfection: heterosexuals have been screwing it up, divorcing, and scarring kids for decades. (I’m, uh stereotyping, of course). Being a parent doesn’t require a particular orientation--just some common sense, love, and honesty.
Those who don’t agree with gays being married should simply avoid marring a person who’s gay.
196. Richie Ann said:
You should forgive yourself for being young.
197. Anonymous said:
To #178 Emily:
I too am a politically conservative Christian and I agree with Kristin, Rachel, and most of the others on here who have piped up (except that gay = mental illness person. Idiot.)
OF COURSE being against gay marriage is intolerant! But who ever said we have to be tolerant of everything? To have a belief against something is to be intolerant of it. I'm not sure when tolerance became the almighty characteristic to have, who says the only way to be a nice, kind, good person is to be for everything that everyone else believes?
198. Trickygringo said:
I must add this. Mormons should know better than most people that using the coercion of government to force your beliefs on others is very wrong. That's the very story of how Mormons ended up in Utah in the first place. This isn't just a lesson for Mormons trying to keep down teh ghey. Government is force. Government is violence. Every time you use government for ANYTHING it's with the threat of violence behind it.
199. Gypsy said:
Kristen said:
"'If you take religion out of the equation, THERE IS NO ISSUE.'
But for those of us who base our lives and morality on our faith, we cannot take religion out of the equation. It's part of who I am, the thing on which I try and base every choice, every motivation. Telling me to just forget what I believe in regards to this subject is in its own way, intolerant."
Whaa??? I know it should go without saying, and still has been said 100 times, even by you in your very post, Heather, but here goes AGAIN: Kristen, your religion is not necessarily the same as someone else's. While you cannot remove religion from your personal equation, you should understand that other people cannot either. To legislate rights based on the beliefs of one religion discounts the validity of others. No one is asking you to marry someone of your same sex. Why do you care if others do???
200. Yecats said:
ahhhhh...i'm starting to forget my younger years...is that b/c of how bad i remember it to be/think it was, or is it b/c i'm a new mommy/work full time, and my memory is shot? questions, questions, questions. oh...yeah, i have a comment to make: THIS post was awesome. Love the picture, and Leta looks just like the younger you. As for the homosexuality issue, i'm for gay marriage...these type of basic civil rights should be had by all. i just don't get the alternative, but i do try to listen to the opinions of others. sadly, there are a lot of assholes in this world, and i just can not accept any opinion (even if it might be close to right) from someone that thinks they know it all, shove religion down my throat, etc., and generally make a fool of themselves for no good reason, and with no real ability to artiuclate their point if pressed, i.e. too much reliance on b.s. and talking points. gag. i love your blog, and think that you are a gifted writer. i will say, the diff. from the younger you and how you are now (as much as we can learn from what you say on your blog) is amazing. Since i have only been reading for about 4 months or so...i wonder, when did the "switch over" begin?
Best wishes to you and yours.
p.s. What did you think about the debate last night? McCain is such a tool...
201. Catlover said:
Love the photo, love the hair, even love the imagery of "Albino rain." But gay marriage IS a moral issue. Since the time of Adam and Eve, marriage has always been between one man and one woman. You probably haven't been reading your Bible lately, but look happened to Sodom and Gommorah.....
202. kmira said:
That was so painful, I had to put my hands over my eyes and read it through my fingers.
It reminds me of how much I had to struggle over the years with my Crazy, the drugs I had had to take that didn't work, the desperation that maybe nothing would work, the horrible, degrading relationships I had, broken friendships, etc.
I think the part I still grieve about is that I was such a loving, intelligent, compassionate person. But, my heart couldn't take all of the pain and beauty around me. I've heard that if a person could experience all of God's love and light on Earth, they would literally explode - the human body is not capable of enduring it, which is why we have to die first. Odd? Not to me. I think I understand it completely, which is why I have a good relationship with my medication and I choose not to induldge myself emotionally too much. I can't fall off the wall with a 5 yr old daughter. I arm my self with humor as a defense mechanism and strangely, it keeps me level.
Thank you for sharing your life. I'm not sure if you realize the impact you have on our lives, how you had to go through hell to help us heal.
203. Tiggerlane said:
You are making me SO glad I didn't save any of my writings from my Mormon days. However, I ran across some of the books I read at the time...and they made me shudder.
Interestingly enough, I see how your thought process was starting to break from that of the LDS church. (Insert cheer!) I remember having the same "argument" with a Baptist friend about the plight of the mentally challenged...that there was NO WAY they would go to hell for not knowing Jesus or being saved...they didn't have the capacity to KNOW...and he was adamant, "If they haven't been saved or baptized, straight to hell."
Amazing how we change - for the better! Well, at least some of us...sadly, some are still stuck.
Loved this post...you have such courage to just put it all out there, and critique yourself!
204. Katbliss said:
Liar! You would only marry Chuck. Although the artist AKA as Coco is pretty darn cute!
205. Shiri said:
Oh, Heather, so brave! And yes, that hair is gorgeous!
The separation of Church and State is what allowed Mormonism to survive to begin with, which it barely did for its first years. Our country isn't "supposed" to be about God, and anyone whose religion has used that to its advantage, which all of them have, should realize that. I think the CT Supreme Court has it right: how can the majority enforce something on the minority that the majority itself wouldn't accept? I've never been proud to be a Connecticutian before! (That is a real word, I swear.)
Also, homosexuality was removed from the DSM, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, in 1973. Not that it makes eouio's reasoning any better, but facts may be in order.
206. ChrisV said:
I don't get a sense of regret or anger from what you've posted about your journal entries. Mortification, yes, as you've entitled this post. Amazing how people go on to glean more from the facts you have stated. I admire you for having the courage to go back and read your journals. I pitched mine several moves ago, unread.
Ultra liberal atheist heterosexual here and have been since I lost my (Catholic) religion during my late teens/early 20s. I work with two women who are in their 50s - Christians who mocked Hillary but love Sarah. When California recognized gay marriage, of course one of them was worried about how soon one WILL be able to marry one's dogs. I guess she's concerned about the sanctity of her next marriage, which would be #4.
207. Stellare said:
What an eloquent teenager, though, however crazy or not crazy you were. :-)
208. FirstLady said:
re: I have no prejudices at all against homosexuality, but I don't think it should be mandated legally or otherwise by the government. I think the government has no role in those sorts of things, or rather shouldn't. Not for homosexuals or heterosexuals. I see no reason why it should be part of the government's role in our lives.
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This seems to be a good reason to be AGAINST Prop 8, since if it passes, the state constitution would be changed to mandate marriage as only between a man and a woman. If government shouldn't mandate gay marriage, why should they be able to ba nit?
209. SUck it said:
Hey religious-heads, RELIGION IS SEPARATE FROM STATE! No one is asking you to abandon your beliefs, just realize that b/c they are yours does not mean the world has to follow them. WAKE UP! Just as someone cannot persecute you for your religious beliefs, God forbid, you in turn cannot come after someone because they don't prescribe to the ideals recorded in a mystical book of the ages. I am so SICK of this argument. You would rather see a child go without a family and love then let a gay couple adopt, you would rather a person suffer a lonely existence then find love in another person who just happens to have identical anatomy, you would rather a man who spent his life taking care of someone he loves be left holding the bag when his partner dies to pay for medical expenses, a funeral, etc. Who is working for the devil again? (whoever the hell that guy is)
210. Jason said:
I've been reading your blog for a couple months now, and first off...THANK YOU! Seriously, thank you!!! Living here in the crazy that is Utah, it's nice to see some people escape the church's weird hold! And as one of the former mormon homo's here in Utah, again, just thank you! Your blog is amazing. I've laughed, cried, been inspired to think, etc...
211. Sarah said:
I think you should give some of us YES ON PROP 8 folks a little bit of credit.
Some of us, myself included, will vote yes on prop 8 and our vote will have nothing whatsoever to do with religion. If you want to know my reasons, e-mail me and ask and I'll explain, but I guarantee that the reason I will vote yes on prop 8 has nothing to do with religion, has nothing to do with racism or the desire to infringe on homosexuals' civil liberties, nothing of the sort.
It has everything to do with linguistic expansion and development and everything to do with the people I know (some of whom are friends and others of whom are not) in the homosexual community.
212. Honey said:
Your penmanship was a treat! No wonder all your teachers loved you.
213. Rachel said:
I just have to say, I think it's really great that you put up entries of your "old self." I constantly meet people that are so dead-set in their views that you think they would never, ever change from their conservative base. Not that being conservative is bad per se (I hesitate writing that..ha) but it's just their viewpoint. I read these entries, and I think God, if I'd met her in 1994, she would've been so completely conservative and I would never have thought she'd turn into the vodka-loving, fun, liberal person you are today. So I guess what I'm saying is, thank you--you give me a little hope that so many conservative people today will maybe become a little more liberal in the future and we can all make some necessary changes in our society.
214. Anonymous said:
I don't know about you, but I'm finding some of these comments fairly cringe-worthy.
I was expecting the onslaught of gay-bashers and general haters, but I have to say I'm quite surprised by those individuals who can't understand why Prop 8 would affect non-gay voters. By letting a law infringe on the basic human rights of anyone, whether you agree with their lifestyle or not, you run the risk of one day having your own choices taken from you. Some people are far too myopic to see the bigger picture I guess (and voting based purely on one's own self-interests seems a little...well, selfish, if you ask me).
215. Anonymous said:
You are way too hard on yourself! i think it's touching to see how you were really struggling to figure stuff out and *not* be bound by you "conservative bias" even when that was all you knew. Courageous and humane. Give yourself more credit!
216. blah blah said:
Not suprising since you currently have the same blind devotion and ferver for the liberal side of things.
Also, nice mom jeans.
217. Anonymous said:
And yet...I kinda like "albino raindrops". :)
218. Naomi said:
It's nice to see that everyone can change over the course of a few years.
219. Melissa said:
I'm pretty sure the best thing I've read all day has been, and will continue to be "God's University".
And here in Arizona we have to vote down this ridiculous proposistion again, because apparently they didn't believe us when we said no in 2006. So no on 8 and no on 102!
220. Kim said:
eouio - WHOA. You're a complete idiot. Do your research. Homosexuality was removed from the DSM-II in 1986. There's a reason why there have been two additional DSM's developed since then.
It is not a "mental disorder" and for you to imply that a person's rights should be dictated by their condition is not only ignorant, it is uninformed.
There's a reason why it's called "HUMAN RIGHTS." Humans are humans, period, and they all deserve the same rights, legal or moral. Even if homosexuality was a mental disorder (which it is not) should that person be given lesser rights? Last I knew those with - oh let's see, sexual dysfunction, which is in the DSM, and which I suspect you suffer from, could marry and that *is* classified.
You need to get a clue.
221. Michelle said:
You've come a loooong way baby!
You are not what you were then. So, no worries. No need to apologize. Being young and stupid is part of life. We all go through it and as much as it pains me we will see our children go through it. And believe me, it is not fun. So embrace who you are now and let go of the dumbass you were. I did! :-)
222. jennielynn said:
You may have been crazy, but you were hot and that's what's really important, you know?
Seriously, thank you for the link. As a Californian Christian, I'm tearing my hair out over this. Just another wrong-headed piece of legislation that has no business even being on the ballot. At least it gives me plenty of excuses to wear my "I'm a Christian and I SUPPORT Gay Marriage," shirt.
223. Sarah said:
Heather, thanks for sharing these - and don't worry - we were all idiotic a-holes as teenagers. I mean, you really should see my journals - I think I wrote at least 30 of them. How self-involved was I? And they're all about stupid, stupid shit.
One thing I'd love to hear more about - and I haven't read all your archives, though I've read your site for 2 years - is what sort of tipped the scale and convinced you that the church you'd been brought up in was no longer right for you? How did you make that transition/come to that realization? Very interesting. Because yes, young Heather terrifies me - but today's Heather is so very awesome and open-minded. I'm interested in how that change come about - it gives me hope for a lot of people!
224. Emily said:
Rachel and 197 - There was a complaint about being called "intolerant" because of opposition to gay marriage. I was simply pointing out that someone who is intolerant should own up to it and admit it. Just as I fully admit to being intolerant of anyone who wants to take away someone's constitutionally guaranteed civil rights on religious grounds. I am intolerant of people who think that way, and I would openly carry a big sign or wear a t-shirt that announced as much. I am not ashamed to be intolerant of those ideas any more than I would not be ashamed to admit my intolerance of racism, sexism, or ageism and I would certainly not cry over being called on it.
FYI - The LDS church is the NUMBER ONE supporter of Prop 8. Members are asked every week to canvas and pay beyond their regular old 10% tithes to support this "initiative".
And if we want to talk about slippery slopes, I think it will be interesting to see what happens if the USA follows Europe's lead and becomes more and more Islamic. Will the Christians and Mormons be as accepting of law following religiously derived morals? Or will they cry out for the protections of the Constitution that they are now seeking so actively to destroy??
225. Phoebe Caulfield said:
I'm so glad that you shared this. It sounds just like I did in my adolescence, before I grew the fuck up. It is terrifying to think of how I thought about things, and I still feel embarrassment when I think about things that I said or thought (I once told my sister, after I heard it at school, that God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve).
What's even more terrifying, though, is the number of people who don't "outgrow" this type of thought. For me, independence and education were the key to understanding the flaws in those ideas. But when I think of all those other people who don't make it to that level, I want to vomit.
226. teddy said:
I really enjoy reading your blog, but now I'm worried Satan is making me read it instead of working.
227. Malita said:
I don't even want to go back to some of my old journals in my ultra conservative Texas A&M bubble cult days! But isn't evolution of the human brain great - funny thing is you'll probably look back (or maybe you have) at some of the things you've written on here and say "who was that?". But you are being too hard on yourself - at least you were friends with someone who wasn't just like you.
228. Lisa said:
Kristin, yes, I get you. I was all pro-gay marriage, too, until I realized that marriage as an institution created by God. As a Christian (albeit quite left leaning), this is my reality. Emily, yes this "religious freak" would be quite satisfied if marriage were solely religious and everyone had to apply for civil unions. That would make my life and my stance so much easier.
229. malie said:
Hi Heather,
I would actually be very interested in hearing your thoughts on the "slippery slope" argument, if you're ever inclined to share.
230. m@ said:
thank you. I don't think anyone has put it so simply and mathematically before.
231. GoGo said:
You are awesome. Personally, I had the same type of entry regarding god, choice, and homosexuality in my past journal writing, and guess what, I am gay. Deconstruction of ingrained oppression takes steps like these.
I can't tell you the number of entries where I couldn't wrap my brain around the idea that one must fear someone they love (that someone being G-D). Oh, and how much I loved Johnny Depp. Rediculous retarded for the boy in high school.
Glad you put these entries out there.
~GoGo
232. P said:
I am all for people making their own lifestyle choices. However, I think it's important to remember that most people who favor Prop 8 are not doing so to "persecute" homosexual couples. It is simply unfair to compare that to killing Mormons in the 1800s.
In fact, many who do support Prop 8, myself included, support civil unions and all benefits that come with it (hospital visits, etc.). However, it is impossible to take religion out of marriage, for marriage itself IS a religious institution. It always has been. Civil unions are, as their name implies, civil.
That said, I just want to make clear that I only support Prop 8 because of the fact that homosexual marriage can and does affect individuals outside of the couple, particularly by way of children. If it just involved the couple, it would only be their choice and I wouldn't care. However, it DOES affect others. That's why the government is there - to prevent inviduals from getting in the way of others' rights - and I firmly believe that goes both ways.
I sincerely try to understand different points of view without making them seem simplistic, naive, or stupid, and have been grateful when you've done the same. I hope this helps explain a little bit about why I feel this way - and it's not because I'm cruel, insensitive, or intolerant.
233. Sara said:
I loved that third entry. I didn't see it as you being crazy, I saw it as your birth. Like a baby bird hatching from its ignorant shelter. Really interesting to see the wheels turning, the tides starting to change. Beautiful transformation you made, Heather.
234. Kristy said:
Heather,
First, I love your site - and I met you at Outside Lands (along with hundreds of other people, I am sure). My sister is a blogger as well. : )
I would highly recommend watching the movie "For The Bible Tells Me So," you can get it on Netflix. I too was raised in a conservative Christian home and have since become a liberal on every issue that I was raised to be "against." This movie looks at the conflict of homosexuality and the church and is SO good - I cried watching it because there is a scene where a family goes to Focus on the Family to deliver a letter to James Dobson and they are not allowed inside and are threatened with being arrested, and I was just crying and crying because my Mom works there and I kept thinking, was she inside during that shoot? Anyway, it is an excellent movie and I highly recommend you see it.
Also, check out www.getmortified.com (which you may have already done) - people actually do live shows where they read from their diaries, I've seen them a couple of times in SF and it is HYSTERICAL.
235. Steven said:
I don't know why you're being so hard on yourself.
Weren't we all like that in college?
236. BlackCatMima said:
Oh goodness, it's so brave of you to share your embarrassing adolescent ramblings with all the intranets. I could never expose my own. *shivers* Luckily, I burned all mine long ago! My tripe was not worth the wide ruled notebook paper it was loopily scrawled on!
237. Kelly said:
I love how your "Philosophy" class was just a discussion of Mormon constructs on perception. Sounds like you really learned a lot about philosophy that semester.
238. PixelFish said:
I too wrote some shitty stuff during the Mormon years and had a similar stick up my butt, re: any kind of sexual feeling whatsoever. (I always look suspiciously at the current journal entries, certain that one day I will find them embarrassing as well.) I'm glad I figured out some things before I hurt some good friends in the process.
(One other thing I find kind of funny: we were always told to keep journals as Mormon kids, but my writing was always very sporadic until the advent of the internet. Then I got great at keeping a journal. And um, documenting how I left the church in it. Whee for irony!)
239. LJ said:
To # 232: you may not necessarily be "cruel, insensitive, or intolerant" but you're certainly ignorant. Let me ask at what age did you personally choose to follow a heterosexual "lifestyle"?
240. Sam said:
Just because you were a crazy ass mormon, doesn't mean all mormons are or that we are all burning prop. 8. Go mormons. Go gays.
241. Tina said:
And they say people can't change.
242. Anonymous said:
To Sam - did you know that if you openly express your dissent on this issue to the church, that you can be excommunicated? How dare you question your prophet. What kind of Saint are you?
243. Mia said:
my father is gay, and has been living with the same man for 23 years. the most loving and stable relationship i have ever seen. when i was about four years old, i remember asking them why they didnt get married. they told me it was because neither of them wanted to wear a dress, but i could see the pain in their eyes.
for those of you who think that being gay is a 'lifestyle', its not. buying mid century modern furniture and drinking microbrewed beer in a new york loft is a lifestyle. falling in love with someone and choosing to let them love you back is just life, period.
244. thecandyqueen said:
But your handwriting is beyond! It's beyond!
245. Jemaleddin said:
The word you were looking for is "numinous" not "numerous."
246. K. Rogers said:
Heatherpants, you are too hard on yourself. Sounds like you were in the beginning stages of working your way out of a religion that you had given yourself to fully, starting to question everything that you held dear. You were doing what you believed to be the right thing, and even when you wrote about what you'd been taught about homosexuality- your immediate reaction was compassion and a red flag went up.
You knew something wasn't right.
I know tons of Christians who have similar feelings about the gay rights issue- they are not bad people. The are just battling with what they've been taught since they were little kids, like "the sky is blue" or "1+1=2". They want to stay true to their faith but they know in their hearts that something is not right.
I'm so glad you posted that last entry. Maybe it will help people who are struggling with the same conflicts and give them the courage to make the right choice when they vote.
I think that fundamentally, every human being has the innate sense that we are all equal. We are ALL God's kids.
247. Theresa said:
RE: #134--"Even when you take religion out of the issue - marriage was never just between 2 people who loved each other. Marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman."
Except for those times throughout most of human history when it's been between ONE man and multiple wives, or ONE man and multiple wives and slaves. The fact is, the earliest Biblical concepts of marriage had next to nothing to do with our current understanding of marriage as a loving, committed partnership between equals (whether you think it must be man+woman or not). It was an exchange of women as property, something that very few would try to justify in America today.
The idea that according to the Bible marriage has always been between one man and one woman since the dawn of time is just flat out incorrect.
248. the mighty jimbo said:
i'm sending you a bill for the computer repair and dry cleaning required after snorting an iced soy latte all over my desk after reading about "albino raindrops."
249. KT said:
Makes me wish I kept a journal when I was a teenager...I would love to be able to make fun of the teenage me now. Love the picture, too - classic 90's hair!
250. Nicole said:
WOW. My mouth hung open at various points for various reasons.
Albino raindrops, ahahaha.
real people with real moms and dads. holy crap. That's deep.
I'm REALLY hoping at this very second that I shredded all of my diaries, but I cannot remember. Oh, the horror.
I wanted to read all the comments, but I stopped at this one: "Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder." So homosexuals have mental disorders huh? Speechless.
251. Kateastrophe said:
Yeah...I remember when I was about 9 or 10, I got thrown into Catholic catechism classes. Had to get baptised and receive first communion to make my dad feel like a big man around town. I totally drank the Kool-Aid. I even spouted off about the evils of abortion. Yeah, completely talking out of my ass...and both my mother and my older sister put me in my place.
Let people marry whomever they damn well please. Thank you for reminding us that it's about basic human rights. I don't believe there is a "homo" disclaimer in the Bill of Rights.
*Giggle* I just felt Clueless: "And may I remind you, it does NOT say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty!"
252. kris said:
Long time reader...first time commenter.
As one of "the gays" who took the opportunity to travel to our great friend to the North and get married, I was pleased to see that the sky didn't fall and steam didn't erupt from the sidewalks when my ladyfriend and I said "I do".
So from one of us to one of you, thank you for being the voice of reason. It's a hell of a slap in the face to be told that something so real is fake and that somehow, my love is worth less. And it takes the mighty mighty straight folks to speak up in the face of fairness. Not necessarily because you Want a gay marriage but because it certainly will add a whole new amazing twist to "Bridezillas".
253. Kali said:
It strikes me as so amazing that you and this girl who wrote such things are the same person. It gives me hope that thinking religious conservatives might have it in them to see the light. What an evolution.
254. tandylane said:
Please more journal entries, please! So great! And it is you in it. It's so great to read how you struggled with Satan and those beliefs. And that you could always write well.
I would buy a memoir about you and LDS.
255. Tammie said:
You shouldn't be too ashamed about the bullshit you believed in the past. Believing it helped make you the better person you are today. If you still believed it now, at thirty-something, then you would need to be ashamed and mortified.
I used to believe a lot of the same garbage. It came from a different religious background, but it was all the same bullshit. I'm just glad I'm not that now.
256. Anonymous said:
loved that you shared..somewhere, in my house I have a journal that I kept my senior year in high school and my first two years of college. About 20 years ago I crossed out some crap in it, and left the rest. Of course now, after reading your post, I am thinking I need to FIND that book and get rid of it, lest my child at some point find it and read it. If she does, she will think she has permission to do anything she wants, like drink, lose her virginity or steal orange highway cones.
Now that I am a responsible adult I can't have that happen.
257. shelli said:
Thanks, Heather.
I am STILL constantly baffled as to HOW ON G-d's green earth, my STABLE, loving relationship with my partner of 8+ years, and our beautiful daughter is "ruining the institute of marriage?"
I DON'T GET IT.
No. Seriously. "they" say it all the time. But you know what? NO right wing nut job has the balls to actually say WHY they feel that it ruins the institution of marriage, probably because of their OWN mistresses on the side.
Ugh.
258. Liz Harvatine said:
Even though I can see what makes you cringe over that last entry I think there's something really beautiful about it. It lets us see the open minded woman you are now first trying to fight her way out of a very close minded and oppressive upbringing. Being familiar with your current politics and beliefs, this made me smile. It's a little glimmer of the wonderful woman you would become.
259. Kim said:
#127 Rob - you're an ass. One word - KARMA. What benefit do you have to attack someone like that? Does it make you feel like more of a man? Do you think you're cool because you posted nasty comments to a public forum? Or does it give you pathetic pleasure to get a response? Are you not smart enough to realize that when she's talking about giving $20 to a homeless person it's about a much bigger issue than that, not the $20?
Heather, don't listen to him. He's just upset that he's not intelligent enough or interesting enough to do what we all wish we were smart enough to accomplish such as you have. Yes, you post about the mundane things, but you also post about the important things and have changed people because you have enough courage to say them.
Besides, I bet he has a little dick.
260. Amy said:
Holy christ, #28! "Homosexuals should certainly have rights equal to any other human suffering from a mental disorder."
First of all, I can't believe that someone who thinks that way has any interest in reading you, dooce.
And to #28, you're damn right. Humans with mental disorders are allowed to marry whomever they want. So it seems like we're all on the same side, aren't we?
261. Moriya said:
After a lot of thinking the last few months, I came to the conclusion that people's core beliefs can't change. They will never change who they are, deep down inside no matter how much they utter the phrase, "But I've changed, I swear!"
And I think you've just proved me wrong.
Also, I'm reading Under The Banner of Heaven right now, by Jon Krakauer, and I strongly recommend you read it. It's about Mormons, more specifically Mormon FDLS, and it will make your head spin.
262. Valerie said:
To #169: Kristin, if your ONLY concern is how gay marriage affects the "population economically" then you should be voting no on 8. The bill itself admits that the cost to taxpayers is negligable at best and they actually estimate an INCREASE in tourist revenue from all the people who would travel here to get married.
Heather, it makes me so happy to know that it's possible for people to genuinely change their minds on these issues. Oh, and you also made me really grateful I never kept a diary.
263. Kelly said:
Christ on a cracker, woman. We would not have been friends 15 years ago (not that we are now, but still). It's good to see people can change.
You did have some purdy hair though!
264. Jennifer Suarez said:
I have really enjoyed the no on prop 8 videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVRPdQB5BCs
They are formated like those PC vs Mac commercials and are hilarious!
NO ON PROP 8!!!!!!
265. Patricia said:
Oh. My. God. I cannot believe that you are going to be RIGHT NEXT DOOR to where I work, and I cannot meet you!!!!! I am sooooo bummed.
Read you "religiously" (ha, ha) every day.
Keep up the good work, and the next time you come to KC, drop a line - I'll buy you a drink.
266. Sandi said:
Thanks for the little jab at the phrase "slippery slope" I am so SO sick of it.
267. nmc said:
Oh man. My diaries in high school are not nearly as interesting in hindsight but equally embarrassing, I think. A lot of wailing over boys and the girl who "stole" my place in the cliques I tried to join though. I stopped keeping diary-diaries (as opposed to sketchbooks, notebooks, planners) after I lost one during school; I am terrified that someday my future spouse will run for public office (coz *I* sure as hell won't) and that diary will turn up in an anonymous package left at the doorstep of the National Enquirer...
268. Jen said:
Jesus, do you think you had enough HAIR? eiy yeiy yeiy.
269. Andrea said:
It's safe you say that you have come a long, long way.
270. Shari said:
I read all these comments and everyone seems think in terms of black and white, republican or democrat, atheist or christian... there are a lot of people out there that vote democrat sometimes and rebuplican other times depending on the candidate, and how about a christian that loves everyone (including gay people) and doesn't let just two issues (abortion and gay rights) affect their vote? I hear way too much judgment on both sides. But I do appreciate the thought provoking entry... and thank you Heather for being brave enough to post your journal!
271. Katy-Sue said:
I never thought about Satan, gay rights or anything so weighty at that age. I suspect my journals are filled with test anxiety and boys, boys, boys.
Oh yeah, and glad you are on the meds! (and I mean that in a nice healthy way. I couldn't imagine the hell you'd be living in if you believed that Satan was around every corner and hidden in every friend.)
272. Liz said:
Hoo boy Heather, I recognize so much of my former self in your former self. I'm glad you are raising your child in a loving, accepting home.
No 8, no on hate.
273. Fran said:
Yea, I think I would have had to have hit you. Might have even tried to choke you with your Bible. But, then I would have been the one to buy you your first beer. Us sinners love corruption. It is a goal to total word domination. One of you at a time till we have brain washed you all. MAWAHAHAHA
274. Pepper said:
It's amazing how much our adult views sometimes differ from our upbringing, isn't it?
I still have a lot of my old journals too, but I'd never have the guts to post any of it lol
275. Know-It-All said:
Ah, yes. Your diary entries reminded me of myself when I was nineteen and had that dangerous little bit of college in me. I thought I knew it all and was just as judgemental. And I wasn't even Mormon. It's so interesting how things change once you are actually thrown out into the world and get some real living under your belt.
276. chris said:
I'm with you on Prop 8. Glad you're linking - you have a loud voice.
The Mormon thing... I live in Alpine, UT - am not LDS, and struggle with finding balance here. Please tell me not all of my neighbors and friends who are sending their kids to BYU aren't like your journal entries. I've read the Book of Mo twice (just to learn about my peeps down here) and am able to politely discourage those who are concerned for my lost soul. Your journal entries don't help my effort in acceptance of my neighbors and not judging. Complicated.
No on Prop 8. That's what's important.
277. Genelle said:
What most people who support bans on gay marriage fail to see is that our civil liberties are based on our right to disagree. In fact, I would argue that the definition of liberty in America is supporting your right to do that with which I do not agree. So I may not agree with your religion but I will defend your right to practice that religion. I certainly don't agree with those who think that gay marriage is an abomination but I would support their right to think that. But, like my right to swing my fist ends at your face, conservative's rights to have the opinion that gay marriage is wrong ends when they would interfere with another person's life because of that opinion.
Also, if "marriage" is at its heart a religious concept and not a legal one, then all states should cease issuing marriage licenses and only issue licenses for civil unions. If you would like to have the union consecrated by your religion, go for it. The idea that heterosexual couples should be allowed to marry and homosexual couples should be allowed to have civil unions is this generation's separate but equal. That concept was wrong then and it is wrong now. There is simply no logical justification to deny a law-abiding subset of the American population a right that everyone else enjoys.
278. Lulu said:
Holy shit that's funny.
279. Anonymous said:
Do you think God saved you from these hideous attitudes :) ..or was it therapy ?
280. Anonymous said:
So how does one get over having such feelings? I don't recall changing my attitudes or politics that much since my teenage years. How did you do it?
281. Katie said:
What I want to know is, was your journal secretly a drinking game, and every time you wrote homosexual you took a shot? Yes, I know. It SO wasn't.
What I like, though, is that clearly you were thinking about things and assessing your beliefs--how else could you have become the badass you are today?
282. Mark said:
That last entry was good. Why'd you disapprove of it?
283. Officerlove said:
If we shouldn't impose our relious beliefs on anyone then we also shouldn't impose our beliefs of gay marriage on others. And why is it that you have "come a long way" or you're such a "better person" now that you've changed your views on things? It doesn't mean you were wrong then or now or right to feel that way. You just had different beliefs and were a much younger person without your own "world experience". Not that I agree with your beliefs either way, but you weren't necessarily wrong back then and changing your beliefs certainly doesn't make you a better person.
284. Jess said:
Wow! First off I love your site. I can't understand why people (haters) who don't like your site, don't agree with what you say will post comments here. It seems fitting since so much of what's been said back and forth on the comments are about tolerance/intolerance. I just really find it ironic that people who have an opinion that's the polar opposite of yours have a forum via your website to discuss this. And that my friends is tolerance.
285. Anonymous said:
Heather,
Thanks so much for sharing this. It's extremely heartening to realize that peoples' minds can change. I think this is very powerful stuff, as cringe-worthy as you may find it. It shows that young people have their own minds, their own opinions, and that religion and dogma is not one-size-fits-all. I'm glad you found your own way.
No on Prop 8.
286. Lynn said:
It's amazing how much your mindset can change. Thank the gods yours did. How scary is it to think that there are grown ass men and woman walking around thinking that way right now.
287. Jessica said:
The slippery slope argument cracks me up.. a slope to where??
Before we know it they're going let those negro's marry white girls or let those simple minded women have the vote? People.. sheesh..
And we were ALL crazy at that age!
288. Liz said:
I thought I was going to marry Chuck! Please don't take my man. You can keep Coco...
p.s. I'm glad you're normal, now. Whew!
289. Sarah said:
Those are AWESOME. I was just thinking recently that I really don't want people holding against me at the age of 31 what I did and thought when I was a freshman in college... I think the sentiment is pretty much universal.
290. KT said:
You're right. Someone should kick Heather of the past's teeth in.
291. Kristie said:
I've been a reader for many years, before Leta was even born and I've never commented until now.
I'm tempted to show this to my ex MIL who puts so much faith in God that she forgets that people are important, too.
Also, I admired your tact and grace and BlogHer. Bravo.
292. Anonymous said:
Officerlove, what you're not getting is that no one is going to make you marry a gay person. No one is imposing their beliefs "on" you. They are not seeking to take away your heterosexual marriage, force you to attend a gay marriage ceremony, or turn your kids gay. What the fundamentalist religious communities are trying to do is actively take a right away. Should religions have had the right to say "God doesn't approve of interracial marriage, so stop imposing on us your belief that a black person and a white person can get married!!"??
293. Genevieve said:
I feel for you... But the important thing is that you evolved. I think the only thing one can truly blame someone for is not learning and evolving.
294. TED said:
I'm gay, and I find it galling that people concern themselves with who I want to marry.
But I'm entirely willing to sacrifice my fundamental human rights and those of homos everywhere if it will keep Chuck and Coco from having to marry you. And if that doesn't work, you'd better make sure to keep the "speak now or forever hold your peace" bit out of the ceremony because if you don't, I'm going to show up and object. Vociferously.
295. HDC said:
Maybe that's the problem with Utah. The Crazy. Time to pipe some Prozac into the water supply maybe?
296. Lisa said:
I remember not having much of an opinion when I was a teenager. My daughter is 14 and is very passionate and opinionated about a lot of things and I love that about her. Who knows what she will be like when she is an old jaded Mom like me.
I think we shouldn't judge ourselves too much in our developing years, because we are still "developing". I think journaling is a great exercise no matter what your age or mental state.
As for Rob #127...you tuned in and no one forces you to read this site. As for #Kim #259...very Roblike. I hope neither one of you has children.
297. Melissa said:
I live in California and I am voting NO on prop 8!
298. Kristine said:
You were a great writer back then too! I too took the journey of discovering what I choose to believe. I did this in accordance with my morals and values instead of blindly adopting that of my parents or church. It wasn't easy. There was the "fear" of going to hell. I am still a Christian, but a liberal one.
Marriage
- historically an arranged financial transaction/peace agreement. Later becomes a sacrament in the Christian faith. Then in medival times enters "romantic love".
Other religous and legal issues with marriage now and in history
- Orthodox Jews do not recognize inter-faith marriages. Inter-faith Jewish marriages aren't allowed in Isreal. Inter-racial marriages in the US used to be illegal.
So really, when it comes to marriage, it is what you want it to be depending on your religion or culture - arranged, contractual, religious, gay or straight.
299. ModernGearTV said:
I think it's incredibly brave of you to share these with the world...I would definitely NOT be as brave. No way, no how. I cringe, too much, and wouldn't want others to have the same reaction. But the hair, I can get behind! I had a similar hairstyle (and loads of it, too) and THAT is something we can be proud of!
300. Ang171 said:
You were the scary kind of cult member...I MEAN good little Mormon girl my parents always wish I'd become.
Yikes.
301. ibis said:
I love these journal entires, particularly the one about "homosexuals and aids," because I can see in them the same process I went through at the same age of just beginning to have that spark of critical thinking about religion and all the so-called beliefs that had been ground into me - that I had accepted out of hand as mine without really looking at them. I guess I understand being embarrassed, but I think they are actually rather wonderful, with their glimmer of the more enlightened person who would later emerge.